Re: [Origami] The Old Masters Project - looking for help
Ilan Garibi As sad as it is, no one lives forever, and I am worried that once an origami >creator is no longer with us, his legacy will fade away as well. To prevent that, I am trying to establish a page dedicated to the old masters of origami on the Community for Creators' (CfC) internet site. The core idea is to have a page on each of the great names that will include the story of his life, images of him and his work, a list of books he published, and, granted permission, some diagrams of his, so visitors can fold his models, and not only read about him. I am always delighted to hear of any new initiatives to help record parts of paperfolding history! I don't know if you are aware of the Public Paperfolding History Project, which you can find on my site at https://www.origamiheaven.com/historyindex.htm. This project, which I edit, but to which many other people who are also interested in paperfolding history contribute, concentrates on the history of types of designs, and of individual designs, and I am aware that it is weak on the history of designers. Everything (I hope) that you will find in the pages there is based on verifiable sources, and the pages tell you what those sources are, so that anyone who cares to, can check that the information is true. I would love to see a project that concentrated on designers ... particularly since I don't have the time to fully pick this up myself! I do already have some pages on individual designers (and authors) and there will be more. There is, for instance, a page about Miguel de Unamuno (https://www.origamiheaven.com/historyunamuno.htm) which I think illustrates the difficulties of the designer based approach perfectly. Most of the information on the page comes from documents provided to me by Juan Gimeno, who has made a special study of Don Miguel's paperfolding. Nevertheless, I have only been able to verify a relatively small number of the many designs that have been attributed to Don Miguel as being his. I also have a page under construction about Akira Yoshizawa (https://www.origamiheaven.com/historyakirayoshizawa.htm). David Lister wrote extensively about him, yet seldom gave sources for his information. All his information may be absolutely correct, but it is difficult to show that this is the case. So the project you propose will not be straightforward, and, if it is to be done well, which I trust will be the case, will require a great deal of time and expertise. >I already have a list of old masters, which for sure is not complete, but it >is a good start. For most I also have who holds their copyrights. I am dubious about the 'old masters' title. Who is a 'master' (opinions will vary) and who is 'old'? Do you mean 'dead designers'? ... a sort of Dead Poets Society for paperfolders? I will message you privately about the help that I may be able to offer. Dave
Re: [Origami] The Old Masters Project - looking for help
Although it is a commendable project, I am afraid that it can be problematic unless the functionality of the system where the information is to be entered will be equivalent to Wikipedia, that is, that people can edit the texts and there is a reviewer to avoid vandalism or misinformation. This would require editors who are knowledgeable about the biographies and the history of paperfolding, which, we know, are scarce. Personally, I would be very sorry if a new website is created where errors are perpetuated. We have enough in book forewords and websites where it is impossible to correct anything. And we already know, the more something is repeated --it doesn't matter if it is false-- it seems more plausible and it is what remains in the collective unconscious. Examples abound. That said, my suggestion is to first get the editors who will be responsible for overseeing the content, rather than accepting biographies that will be hard to review later on. Laura Rozenberg > On Dec 15, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Ilan Garibi wrote: > > Dear fellow folders, > > As sad as it is, no one lives forever, and I am worried that once an origami > creator is no longer with us, his legacy will fade away as well. > To prevent that, I am trying to establish a page dedicated to the old masters > of origami on the Community for Creators' (CfC) internet site. The core idea > is to have a page on each of the great names that will include the story of > his life, images of him and his work, a list of books he published, and, > granted permission, some diagrams of his, so visitors can fold his models, > and not only read about him. > > In a way, it is like a wikipedia page, but without the need to meet the > demands wikipedia asks for, which with many cases are an uncrossable barrier. > > This is not a simple project, and I am unable to make it happen without help. > > What I seek is to build a team to research and collect this data. A > researcher will be asked to help write the text about the master, find an > image of his, etc. > > I already have a list of old masters, which for sure is not complete, but it > is a good start. For most I also have who holds their copyrights. > > If you wish to take part in this project, please send me a private message! > > With my best regards, > > -- > Ilan Garibi > Origami artist and designer > www.garibiorigami.com >
[Origami] The Old Masters Project - looking for help
Dear fellow folders, As sad as it is, no one lives forever, and I am worried that once an origami creator is no longer with us, his legacy will fade away as well. To prevent that, I am trying to establish a page dedicated to the old masters of origami on the Community for Creators' (CfC) internet site. The core idea is to have a page on each of the great names that will include the story of his life, images of him and his work, a list of books he published, and, granted permission, some diagrams of his, so visitors can fold his models, and not only read about him. In a way, it is like a wikipedia page, but without the need to meet the demands wikipedia asks for, which with many cases are an uncrossable barrier. This is not a simple project, and I am unable to make it happen without help. What I seek is to build a team to research and collect this data. A researcher will be asked to help write the text about the master, find an image of his, etc. I already have a list of old masters, which for sure is not complete, but it is a good start. For most I also have who holds their copyrights. If you wish to take part in this project, please send me a private message! With my best regards, -- Ilan Garibi Origami artist and designer www.garibiorigami.com
