Re: [Origami] Sharing diagram source files

2013-02-21 Thread Tavin
Am 20.02.2013 19:52, schrieb Rob Hudson:
 For diagram styles, I've always had a particular fancy for David Shall's,
 hand drawn with a Rapidograph pen (Hope I got that right, David!)
are those by David?
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~owrigami/modular.htm
they do have more soul then computer made ones for sure!


Re: [Origami] Sharing diagram source files

2013-02-20 Thread kdiannestephens
Wonderful idea for sharing diagram source files. Still learning my diagrams 
are not up to par.
There seems to be so many different conventions in diagramming, it is hard 
to know which symbols make more sense to
those reading them. For example - big sweeping arrows or smaller ones? For 
me personally, the smaller ones make
sense. It this the diagrammer' choice?  LOL. Ancient Chinese secret :-) 



Re: [Origami] Sharing diagram source files

2013-02-20 Thread kdiannestephens

Very nice work Tavin!!! Thank you for sharing.


Re: [Origami] Sharing diagram source files

2013-02-20 Thread Anne LaVin
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:46 AM,  kdiannesteph...@gmail.com wrote:
 There seems to be so many different conventions in diagramming, it is hard
 to know which symbols make more sense to
 those reading them. For example - big sweeping arrows or smaller ones? For
 me personally, the smaller ones make
 sense. It this the diagrammer' choice?  LOL. Ancient Chinese secret :-)

Whenever one is thinking about diagramming, Robert Lang's excellent
discussion of diagramming techniques and standards is always worth a
(re-)read:

  http://www.langorigami.com/diagramming/diagramming.php

And if you're interested in old-school-but-still-highly-valuable
(hurray for pencil and paper!) techniques, Rikki Donachie has a great
discussion of making hand-drawn works here:

  http://itsjustabitofpaper.com/Writings/Ranting%20Essays/howtodiagram002.htm

In my extremely limited experience diagramming I found that I slid
towards smaller arrowheads than are often used elsewhere, but seems to
me that's one of those personal-preference things.

Personally, overall, I'm most fond of Yoshizawa's diagrams; though
sometimes sparse and puzzling, their simplicity is pleasing somehow.
Perhaps it's just that I learned technical drawing back in the dark
ages, and I like that kind of drawing!

Anne


Re: [Origami] Sharing diagram source files

2013-02-20 Thread Kathy Knapp







 From: kdiannesteph...@gmail.com kdiannesteph...@gmail.com

 For example - big sweeping arrows or smaller ones? For me personally, the 
smaller ones make
sense. 




as to arrows, I don't have a preference with the length of the arrow shaft, but 
the head of the arrow needs to be easily recognized, the length of the 'arms' 
of the arrow need to be big enough to be distinguished.  I don't have an 
e-reader or smart phone, and yes, I know that screens can be zoomed in, but 
having the arrows be clear in the first place makes sense - to me.
 
Kathy Knapp,
Peoria, Illinois, USA
Do well your part today. - Juliette Gordon Low


Re: [Origami] Sharing diagram source files

2013-02-20 Thread kdiannestephens

Thank you Anne!! Very helpful info.



Re: [Origami] Sharing diagram source files

2013-02-20 Thread Hans Dybkjær

On 20/02/13 02.18, Chris Lott wrote:

But I was thinking
that it would be a really useful learning experience to be able to
poke around with some existing diagram source files...just to see how
they are put together and potentially to avoid reinventing the wheel
with common elements. I'm using Inkscape (and occasionally
Illustrator-- I can't decide which makes more sense for me),
I use inkscape because I found it easier for a beginner (easier than 
illustrator, anyway), after some years of use it technically still 
covers my needs, it's free of charge.

I would be happy to hear you put of a page of references somewhere.

My set of symbols: http://papirfoldning.dk/temp/symbols_origami.svg 
(updated today).
An older example: 
http://papirfoldning.dk/images/diagram/vase05/kinesiskvase-a.svg

And a pretty new example: http://papirfoldning.dk/temp/twistedsquarebowl.svg
(for a book due autumn 2013).
For the latter example, if you open it in Inkscape, you must open the 
layers dialog to unlock the layers.
Note how the English text is in a separate layer. Danish text is in a 
hidden layer, making it easy to produce the diagram in another language. 
Note also that it uses a filter to provide the metallic look of the 
inside (as I intend to use them for candles...). I had to use clipping 
in order to cut off the rough edges; it would be much easier just to use 
the linear gradients I usually apply.


Another very useful source is jo nakashimas youtube videos. At 
http://www.youtube.com/user/jonakashima he has a group of 6 excellent 
inkscape diagramming tutorials (as well as a whole range of other 
origami videos).


Best regards,
Hans

Hans Dybkjær
papirfoldning.dk
Danish Origami Society: foldning.dk