Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host
Or virtual interfaces running on the same real ether card. That it's what I was saying. Kazuma Those who don't understand unix are condemned to reinvent it. Poorly. (H.Spencer) Alessandro A. Garbagnati
Re: MVC/XML Framework Comments please
Cory Updyke wrote: My issue with XML/XSL transformations is this: My theory for the presentation tier is to keep it as simple as possible. Occasionally, you find a designer who has every right to be a engineer, but designs because they enjoy it. This person will scoff(sp?) at the simplicity of XSL. Most of the time you will find designers who know HTML (PDF, etc.). Which concept is closer to HTML, XML/XSL or JSP? I think JSP. I also have found it easier to say Do you see the green (or whatever color depending upon your IDE) colored text? Please don't delete that than it is to teach someone the concept behind XSL. You can have a good hour conversation, hand them the JSP Syntax Reference document and say DESIGN good man. I totally agree! Some years ago (before JSP) we implemented an XML based publishing system. We used our own template language which was a simplified version of XSL. The platform was techinically excellent and contained more than 150.000 lines of Java code. We had a very complex layered caching mechanism: cache for data objects, cache for XML data sources, cache for precompiled templates, cache for generated HTML snippets etc. The bad news for us came later. The system was a way too complex for our designers and HTML coders! It took relatively long time to do simple things. In other words, we went too far with the abstraction. Anyway... enough talk... we use Struts and our own Model-2-Brew. That's what we do also nowdays. We use Struts with some own add ons which allow us to configure the caching policies and access control lists for each action in struts-config.xml. Business objects and processes are without an exception implemented as EJBs. Joni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cant start orion after the auto update.....
I tried that and the auto update done nothing at all. I then tried something simple : got a fresh copy of 1.4.5 from orionserver installed it ( java -jar orion.jar -install) - Orion worked well (default orion webpage) then i updated it ( java -jar autoupdate.jar) and when i tried to start it again i got the same following error. Config : Win2000 Pro - Ibm jdk 1.3.0 What is weird is it seems that im the only one to get this error - Original Message - From: Anders Dahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: Re: cant start orion after the auto update. At 00:55 2001-04-28, you wrote: Hello all, i just updated to 1.4.8 and now i get an error using : java -jar orion.jar i got the following error : java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: org.xml.sax.Attributes: method getQName(I)Ljava/lang/String; not found at org.apache.crimson.tree.AttributeSet.init(AttributeSet.java:139) at org.apache.crimson.tree.XmlDocumentBuilder.startElement(XmlDocumentBuilder.j ava:463) at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.maybeElement(Parser2.java:1449) at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.parseInternal(Parser2.java:499) at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.parse(Parser2.java:304) at org.apache.crimson.parser.XMLReaderImpl.parse(XMLReaderImpl.java:433) at org.apache.crimson.jaxp.DocumentBuilderImpl.parse(DocumentBuilderImpl.java:1 79) at com.evermind._yw.getJavaxDocument(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.xml.XMLUtils.getDocument(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.xml.XMLConfig._iw(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.xml.XMLConfig._iw(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._kh.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:498) at com.evermind._jw.run(Unknown Source) i dont even use crimson. Any idea ? Thx in advance Chris Ps: i moved the principals.xml reference to config/application.xml run autoupdate again, and it works
Re: Orion support company
Joke. --- ken cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you see that Orion had been sold to BEA - why? Thanks - Ken From: Somewhere . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Orion support company Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:20:25 -0700 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: Somewhere . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Orion support company Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:20:25 -0700 Reply-to: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] HR htmlDIV PGood news unless you need it./P PThe cost for same day support runs $8650 per month./P PTwo months worth and you've got a single cpu license for WebLogic, which, by the way, comes with support./P PTheir insane if you ask me.BRBR/P/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIVOriginal Message Follows DIV/DIVFrom: Bernard Sauterel [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVReply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVTo: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVSubject: Orion support company DIV/DIVDate: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:30:09 +0200 DIV/DIV DIV/DIVI wonder if somebody saw on Orion web site, that DIV/DIVthere's now an official support company: Cadrion. DIV/DIV DIV/DIVFor me it's good news. DIV/DIV DIV/DIVOn Mec, 25 avr 2001, Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: DIV/DIV DIV/DIVgt;The list is DEAD? NO MAILS!??! DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;OH NO! ORION HAS BEEN SOLD TO BEA AFTER ALL! DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:56:21PM +0200, Ismael wrote: DIV/DIVgt;gt; Hi all, DIV/DIVgt;gt; DIV/DIVgt;gt; Is the list still running? DIV/DIVgt;gt; DIV/DIVgt;gt; The number of mails received have decreased to 0 !!! DIV/DIVgt;gt; DIV/DIVgt;gt; Are you still there?? DIV/DIVgt;gt; DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;-- DIV/DIVgt;--- DIV/DIVgt;Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVgt;http://epesh.com/ IT Consultant DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIVbr clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p/html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: cant start orion after the auto update.....
I know at one point there was some less than stable behaviour reported from the IBM JVM - get the latest from Sun to see if it makes a difference. I have had no problem autoupdating to 1.4.8 on Win2K Server. --- Christian Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried that and the auto update done nothing at all. I then tried something simple : got a fresh copy of 1.4.5 from orionserver installed it ( java -jar orion.jar -install) - Orion worked well (default orion webpage) then i updated it ( java -jar autoupdate.jar) and when i tried to start it again i got the same following error. Config : Win2000 Pro - Ibm jdk 1.3.0 What is weird is it seems that im the only one to get this error - Original Message - From: Anders Dahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: Re: cant start orion after the auto update. At 00:55 2001-04-28, you wrote: Hello all, i just updated to 1.4.8 and now i get an error using : java -jar orion.jar i got the following error : java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: org.xml.sax.Attributes: method getQName(I)Ljava/lang/String; not found at org.apache.crimson.tree.AttributeSet.init(AttributeSet.java:139) at org.apache.crimson.tree.XmlDocumentBuilder.startElement(XmlDocumentBuilder.j ava:463) at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.maybeElement(Parser2.java:1449) at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.parseInternal(Parser2.java:499) at org.apache.crimson.parser.Parser2.parse(Parser2.java:304) at org.apache.crimson.parser.XMLReaderImpl.parse(XMLReaderImpl.java:433) at org.apache.crimson.jaxp.DocumentBuilderImpl.parse(DocumentBuilderImpl.java:1 79) at com.evermind._yw.getJavaxDocument(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.xml.XMLUtils.getDocument(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.xml.XMLConfig._iw(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.xml.XMLConfig._iw(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._kh.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:498) at com.evermind._jw.run(Unknown Source) i dont even use crimson. Any idea ? Thx in advance Chris Ps: i moved the principals.xml reference to config/application.xml run autoupdate again, and it works __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Does any one else see any problems with latest PDF2?
It looks like you're right, which (looking at our typical deployment organization) makes the spec completely unsuable in that regard. could you crosspost your email to EJB-INTEREST? It's more likely that you'll get a response from an expert group member. I sure hope we're both missing something. Regards, Robert At 14:38 27.04.2001 , you wrote: Looking at the latest spec PFD2, it appears that it is not possible to establish a unidirectional relationship between two entity beans in separate ejb-jar.xml files. With the removal of remote-ejb-name as a possible value for role-souce it makes integration of two packages impossible without the mess of taking and trying to merge two ejb-jar files into one. Scenario 1: We are developing an general accounting package. Our clients need to integrate with our package by establishing uni-directional relationships from their CMP Entities into what we provide them. Since they will not be altering our ejb-jar (except for deployment) how can they reference our beans? Scenario 2: Our accounting package contains a good number of CMP Entity beans. Since EJB A relates to B, and B relates to C, and C relates to D and E, and E relates to G and so on. It is not possible to separate the ejb-jar into multiple, smaller, ejb-jar files for the purpose of managing and controlling change. With over 100 EJBs a single ejb-jar becomes very unmanageable. Are there any solutions to these problems? Thanks. Alex Paransky Individualnetwork.com (-) Robert Krüger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
Re: MVC/XML Framework Comments please
I have to say that I have been reading every response in this thread and find it to be one of the more interesting discussions I've heard in a while. Choosing the right framework for a project is, in my opinion, the most critical aspect in any implementation. I think it would be nice to have a more formal presentation of some of the ideas expressed here. If anyone has any good reference material (books, sites, etc) dealing with this subject I'd be very interested to look at them. Thanks. John -Original Message- From: Joni Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 28, 2001 7:10 AM Subject: Re: MVC/XML Framework Comments please Cory Updyke wrote: My issue with XML/XSL transformations is this: My theory for the presentation tier is to keep it as simple as possible. Occasionally, you find a designer who has every right to be a engineer, but designs because they enjoy it. This person will scoff(sp?) at the simplicity of XSL. Most of the time you will find designers who know HTML (PDF, etc.). Which concept is closer to HTML, XML/XSL or JSP? I think JSP. I also have found it easier to say Do you see the green (or whatever color depending upon your IDE) colored text? Please don't delete that than it is to teach someone the concept behind XSL. You can have a good hour conversation, hand them the JSP Syntax Reference document and say DESIGN good man. I totally agree! Some years ago (before JSP) we implemented an XML based publishing system. We used our own template language which was a simplified version of XSL. The platform was techinically excellent and contained more than 150.000 lines of Java code. We had a very complex layered caching mechanism: cache for data objects, cache for XML data sources, cache for precompiled templates, cache for generated HTML snippets etc. The bad news for us came later. The system was a way too complex for our designers and HTML coders! It took relatively long time to do simple things. In other words, we went too far with the abstraction. Anyway... enough talk... we use Struts and our own Model-2-Brew. That's what we do also nowdays. We use Struts with some own add ons which allow us to configure the caching policies and access control lists for each action in struts-config.xml. Business objects and processes are without an exception implemented as EJBs. Joni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
classloaders - servlet spec 9.6.2
If a web container has a mechanism for exposing container-wide library JARs to application classloaders, it is recommended that the application classloader be implemented in such a way that classes packaged within the WAR are able to override classes residing in container-wide library JARs. is the above mentioned paragraph supported in orion? Dave Ford Smart Soft - The Java Training Company http://www.smart-soft.com
Re: Redirection of HTTP requests
At 10:23 2001-04-26, S.Badrinarayanan wrote: Hi Here is a set of lines that we add to server.xml in a Tomcat server to redirect http requests: Context path=/soap docBase=c:/ApacheSoap/soap- 2_0/webapps/soapdebug= 1 reloadable=true /Context What files need to be updated to get a similar functionality with Orion? add following to orion dir\config\default-web-site.xml web-app application=default name=soap root=/apache-soap / in web-site tag and this web-module id=soap path=c:\java\soap-2_1\webapps\soap / to orion dir\config\application.xml thanx sb /Anders
RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
Thanks Jeff, see it now. Had my W2000 machine configured to obtain IP address automatically, which disabled this option. --peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Hubbach Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:23 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host I'm on Linux, and you can configure your machine to listen to multiple IPs. The NIC is originally configured with one IP when you set it up, but then you can go in and tell it to listen to more IPs. You can do this in NT and 2000 as well. In 2000, you just open up your network settings - TCP/IP properties - advanced. Now you can add multiple IPs to listen to. In Linux, I just use linuxconf. There's a section called IP aliases for Virtual Hosts. In solaris, you just put all the IPs you want to listen to in a file that is named after your interface and is located in /usr/local/if.setup. Jeff Hubbach.
