RE: Hypersonic website / docs
Maybe you know the datasource mappings for this SQL Server? Chris > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Goh > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 1:12 PM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: Re: Hypersonic website / docs > > > Try Mimer SQL. Free for developer. You can also find a type 4 > JDBC driver from > their developer website: > http://developer.mimer.se/. > > Julian Richardson wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought > the official > > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. > Interestingly it > > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with > Hypersonic and knows > > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few > days, and I've > > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for > administration (does > > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want > to fire up a > > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > > > thanks > > > > Jules >
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
Try Mimer SQL. Free for developer. You can also find a type 4 JDBC driver from their developer website: http://developer.mimer.se/. Julian Richardson wrote: > Hi, > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > thanks > > Jules begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.snt.com.my org:SiliconNet Technologies Sdn Bhd;Development version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:IS Executive adr;quoted-printable:;;Lot 352, Lorong 12, Jalan Rubber=0D=0A;Kuching;Sarawak;93400;Malaysia fn:Richard Goh Muk Ling end:vcard
RE: Hypersonic website / docs
I don't have any information for you about the Hypersonic site. I do, however, have a link to a great tool, if you don't mind using a swing-based java app. http://www.ideit.com/products/dbvis/ (Just checked, hypersonic website down from here too) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julian > Richardson > Sent: Tuesday, 13 March, 2001 09:38 > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: Hypersonic website / docs > > > Hi, > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with > Hypersonic and knows > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few > days, and I've > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want > to fire up a > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > thanks > > Jules >
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
Try http://sourceforge.net/projects/hsql/ The very bright guy who was doing HSQL development, Thomas Mueller, had to move on to other things. There's been some talk about trying to continue maintaining HSQL -- if you're interested, let me know. Jay Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 02:38 PM 3/13/01 -, you wrote: >Hi, > >What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official >one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but >doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it >comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site >doesn't seem to exist in any form... > >What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows >what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've >just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > >Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion >document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > >What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does >Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does >that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a >browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a >homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) >what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > >thanks > >Jules > >
RE: Hypersonic website / docs
Not Java. Not Free. Lengthy registration process required to figure this out. No thanks. > Also try kdb at http://www.kx.com . 150kb, all in memory and FAST!!! > > Mike > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael J. > > Cannon > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:22 PM > > To: Orion-Interest > > Subject: RE: Hypersonic website / docs > > > > > > Hypersonic is dead...see at > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=68224 . > > > > Instantdb is the only thing close. > > > > The open-source developers of the Interbase project have revolted > > and taken > > their code with them (hinting at lack of co-operation from Inprise). They > > can be found at http://firebird.sourceforge.net/fb_main.html . the project > > nam is now (obviously) Firebird. > > > > SAPdb is Oracle crap, frozen at v.7, with _lots_ of additional > > libraries and > > no support (and damn few updates). Find it at > > http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/ . > > > > For my money, if you cant find a decent db for your project at SourceForge > > or Freshmeat, go with Sybase ASA or IBM UDB and pay for it. Otherwise, > > write your own. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp > > > Randy-W18971 > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:55 AM > > > To: Orion-Interest > > > Subject: RE: Hypersonic website / docs > > > > > > > > > I heard that the original author was not longer actively > > > developing the product, and someone was temporary taking over the > > > administration and maintenance. Because of the state of > > > disruption with hypersonic, I recommend to look at Enhydra's > > > InstandDB, if you wish a Java based RDMS, else look at databases > > > like Mysql, postgresql, Sap4 (sp?), or Boreland's database. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Julian Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 8:38 AM > > > To: Orion-Interest > > > Subject: Hypersonic website / docs > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought > > the official > > > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > > > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. > > Interestingly it > > > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > > > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > > > > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic > > > and knows > > > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few > > > days, and I've > > > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > > > > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > > > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > > > > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > > > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for > > administration (does > > > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to > > > fire up a > > > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > > > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > > > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Jules > > > > > > > > >
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
This topic's already been beaten to death, and then some. See the archives. Hypersonic was never suitable for production, but it's still a great development tool if you can work around or live with it's limitations. At 10:35 PM 3/13/01 -0300, you wrote: >mysql. >- Original Message - >From: "elephantwalker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hello, > > > > Hypersonic has been end-of-lifed. I would suggest postgresql or some other > > database engine. > > > > Regards,
RE: Hypersonic website / docs
Also try kdb at http://www.kx.com . 150kb, all in memory and FAST!!! Mike > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael J. > Cannon > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:22 PM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: RE: Hypersonic website / docs > > > Hypersonic is dead...see at > http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=68224 . > > Instantdb is the only thing close. > > The open-source developers of the Interbase project have revolted > and taken > their code with them (hinting at lack of co-operation from Inprise). They > can be found at http://firebird.sourceforge.net/fb_main.html . the project > nam is now (obviously) Firebird. > > SAPdb is Oracle crap, frozen at v.7, with _lots_ of additional > libraries and > no support (and damn few updates). Find it at > http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/ . > > For my money, if you cant find a decent db for your project at SourceForge > or Freshmeat, go with Sybase ASA or IBM UDB and pay for it. Otherwise, > write your own. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp > > Randy-W18971 > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:55 AM > > To: Orion-Interest > > Subject: RE: Hypersonic website / docs > > > > > > I heard that the original author was not longer actively > > developing the product, and someone was temporary taking over the > > administration and maintenance. Because of the state of > > disruption with hypersonic, I recommend to look at Enhydra's > > InstandDB, if you wish a Java based RDMS, else look at databases > > like Mysql, postgresql, Sap4 (sp?), or Boreland's database. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Julian Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 8:38 AM > > To: Orion-Interest > > Subject: Hypersonic website / docs > > > > > > Hi, > > > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought > the official > > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. > Interestingly it > > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic > > and knows > > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few > > days, and I've > > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for > administration (does > > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to > > fire up a > > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > > > thanks > > > > Jules > > > >
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
True - it is no longer being developed however it's still a useful db. If you're all hypersonic'd up and just want to get on then try running your database as a server: java -cp hsql.jar org.hsql.Server -database c:\path\to\database\name Don't provide a file suffix. Running as a server gives much better performance and allows multi user (and pooling) access. If you're really after a cmd line tool then I can't help you but the DatabaseManager that comes packaged in hsql.jar is more than adequate for ad-hoc queries and viewing table structures etc. Launch with: java -cp hsql.jar org.hsql.util.DatabaseManager In the connect screen: Type = HypersonicSQL Server Url = jdbc:HypersonicSQLhsql://localhost (or wherever) hope this helps, Andy - Original Message - From: "Julian Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: Hypersonic website / docs > Hi, > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > thanks > > Jules >
RE: Hypersonic website / docs
Hypersonic is dead...see at http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=68224 . Instantdb is the only thing close. The open-source developers of the Interbase project have revolted and taken their code with them (hinting at lack of co-operation from Inprise). They can be found at http://firebird.sourceforge.net/fb_main.html . the project nam is now (obviously) Firebird. SAPdb is Oracle crap, frozen at v.7, with _lots_ of additional libraries and no support (and damn few updates). Find it at http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/ . For my money, if you cant find a decent db for your project at SourceForge or Freshmeat, go with Sybase ASA or IBM UDB and pay for it. Otherwise, write your own. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp > Randy-W18971 > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:55 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: RE: Hypersonic website / docs > > > I heard that the original author was not longer actively > developing the product, and someone was temporary taking over the > administration and maintenance. Because of the state of > disruption with hypersonic, I recommend to look at Enhydra's > InstandDB, if you wish a Java based RDMS, else look at databases > like Mysql, postgresql, Sap4 (sp?), or Boreland's database. > > -Original Message- > From: Julian Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 8:38 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: Hypersonic website / docs > > > Hi, > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic > and knows > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few > days, and I've > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to > fire up a > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > thanks > > Jules >
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
You can download the latest build here http://softseek.zdnet.com/Linux/Programming/Java/D2_47448_index.html There is some discussion about its future at http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=62073 Andrew - Original Message - From: "elephantwalker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:45 AM Subject: RE: Hypersonic website / docs > Hello, > > Hypersonic has been end-of-lifed. I would suggest postgresql or some other > database engine. > > Regards, > > Elephantflyer > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julian > Richardson > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 6:38 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: Hypersonic website / docs > > > Hi, > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > thanks > > Jules > > >
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
mysql. - Original Message - From: "elephantwalker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: RE: Hypersonic website / docs > Hello, > > Hypersonic has been end-of-lifed. I would suggest postgresql or some other > database engine. > > Regards, > > Elephantflyer > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julian > Richardson > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 6:38 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: Hypersonic website / docs > > > Hi, > > What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official > one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but > doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it > comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site > doesn't seem to exist in any form... > > What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows > what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've > just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > > Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion > document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > > What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does > Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does > that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a > browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a > homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) > what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > > thanks > > Jules >
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
Hypersonic SQL is a discontinued product now, it is no longer maintained by it's creator and as far as I know no one is continuing it. Ramiro Diaz Trepat Opetra
RE: Hypersonic website / docs
I heard that the original author was not longer actively developing the product, and someone was temporary taking over the administration and maintenance. Because of the state of disruption with hypersonic, I recommend to look at Enhydra's InstandDB, if you wish a Java based RDMS, else look at databases like Mysql, postgresql, Sap4 (sp?), or Boreland's database. -Original Message- From: Julian Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 8:38 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Hypersonic website / docs Hi, What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site doesn't seem to exist in any form... What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... thanks Jules
RE: Hypersonic website / docs
Hello, Hypersonic has been end-of-lifed. I would suggest postgresql or some other database engine. Regards, Elephantflyer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julian Richardson Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 6:38 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Hypersonic website / docs Hi, What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site doesn't seem to exist in any form... What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... thanks Jules
Re: Hypersonic website / docs
Hypersonic may have died - see http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=62074 . Look quick; the hsql mail lists says that the sourceforge project may be shut down soon. There is a tool in the hypersonic demo directory, try: java -cp hsql.jar org.hsql.util.QueryTool You'll probably need to set some parameters (including -test false); it'll print the current values when it starts. Kirk Yarina At 02:38 PM 3/13/01 +, you wrote: >Hi, > >What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official >one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but >doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it >comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site >doesn't seem to exist in any form... > >What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows >what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've >just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) > >Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion >document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. > >What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does >Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does >that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a >browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a >homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) >what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... > >thanks > >Jules
Hypersonic website / docs
Hi, What's the correct url for the hypersonic website? I thought the official one was hsql.oron.ch, which I'm sure worked until a few weeks ago but doesn't now - I get a forbidden error when accessing it. Interestingly it comes back with www.hypersonicsql.com in the error page, but that site doesn't seem to exist in any form... What gives? Is anyone on this list anything to do with Hypersonic and knows what's happening with the site (it's been this way for a few days, and I've just double-checked that it's not our web proxy) Failing any kind of online help, are there docs buried within the Orion document tree for Hypersonic? I couldn't see anything at all. What I'm actually after is some kind of command-line SQL client - does Hypersonic have one? I know it's got that applet for administration (does that even come as part of the Orion install?) but I don't want to fire up a browser or mess around with appletviewer unless I have to. I do have a homebrew client but it was written against Oracle so I don't know (yet) what'll be involved in getting it to work with Hypersonic... thanks Jules
