RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-28 Thread Russ White

The point was that the question was specifically about the wrapper class.

You are right about JBuilder decompiling classes when it can, but you forget an
important fact. The Orion classes are JAXed (Obfuscated) so that feature is
defeated no matter which debugger you use unless you have the source or JAX. :)

By the way, NetBeans also is a very nice IDE and I use it and JBuilder quite a
lot. It is also very cool that it now includes a slick ANT module. I mention
this because it is free, and it does remote debugging pretty well. Also as you
mentioned it is very easy to set up JBuilder to run Orion in process and then
debug from there. See the how-to on orionsupport.com

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
 Gertsberg
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:16 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 As I said in my email "there ALMOST no need in sources of Orion wrapper
 classes".
 It looks like JBuilder just don't have place where Orion deployed
 Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.class  in it's classpath , so it asks for
 at least a source of that class.
 I am not an expert in JBuilder but as I heard JBuilder  is one of those
 Debuggers that do decompile of the classes if needed.

 Boris

 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


  Boris,
 
  Your statement is true but irrelevant when you want to debug all of the
 classes
  your application uses. This of course, would include the wrapper classes.
 :)
  Sometime you want to see exactly what the wrapper is doing behind the
 scenes.
  Usually I don't bother worrying about the wrappers and debug just the code
 I
  have written, but read the original question and you will understand my
 reply a
  little better. Specifically read the "Can not locate
  Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project source/class path"
 part. ;)
  By the way, the previous post about copying the files to a source
 directory
  while they do exist (which is any time before compiling if finished by
 Orion) is
  exactly right, and that is what I do when I have to. Sure would be nice if
 the
  wrappers would just stick around though. :)
 
  Cheers,
  Russ
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
   Gertsberg
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:36 PM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
  
  
   Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion wrapper classes. You
 can
   do debugging in your debugger if it supports
   JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set breakpoints, step
   through your code in beans and  watch properties just as if it would be
   usual java application.
   Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it up.
  
   Boris
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
   Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
  
  
Good day to all,
   
The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that orion does make the
   source of
it's wrapper classes available to us developers. There is a split
 second
   while
orion is deploying your app that the source files exist in the orion
 root
directory, but the they are quickly snatched away from the prying eyes
 of
   hard
working developers. So in short you are seeing the message correctly,
 and
   there
is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few that decompile
 classes
   for
you) that can step through source that does not exist. :)what I
 generally
   do in
a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly after the call you are
   interested
in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky message and still
   monitor the
results of the call. Also placing a break point in the ejb class
 itself
   will
provide a way to step into the ejb.
   
HTH
   
Russ White
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren
 Pamatat
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 I have just started working with orion, and have just
 sucessfully finished getting the orion primer ejb
 example running. All works fine.

 Now I'm trying to get this to run under the debugger.
 I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
 necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up JB4 with
 orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have even
 got

Re: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-28 Thread Darren Pamatat

Ok, I know from previous uses of Jbuilder on other
projects, that Jbuilder allows stepping thru code
without having source available. So where does orion
put Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.class, so I can
add it to my classpath, and Jbuilder should pick it
up?

-Darren



--- Boris Gertsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I said in my email "there ALMOST no need in
 sources of Orion wrapper
 classes".
 It looks like JBuilder just don't have place where
 Orion deployed
 Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.class  in it's
 classpath , so it asks for
 at least a source of that class.
 I am not an expert in JBuilder but as I heard
 JBuilder  is one of those
 Debuggers that do decompile of the classes if
 needed.
 
 Boris
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion
 under Jbuilder?
 
 
  Boris,
 
  Your statement is true but irrelevant when you
 want to debug all of the
 classes
  your application uses. This of course, would
 include the wrapper classes.
 :)
  Sometime you want to see exactly what the wrapper
 is doing behind the
 scenes.
  Usually I don't bother worrying about the wrappers
 and debug just the code
 I
  have written, but read the original question and
 you will understand my
 reply a
  little better. Specifically read the "Can not
 locate
  Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from
 project source/class path"
 part. ;)
  By the way, the previous post about copying the
 files to a source
 directory
  while they do exist (which is any time before
 compiling if finished by
 Orion) is
  exactly right, and that is what I do when I have
 to. Sure would be nice if
 the
  wrappers would just stick around though. :)
 
  Cheers,
  Russ



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Re: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-28 Thread Boris Gertsberg

To Russ:
Wrappers generated by Orion are not JAXed. At least they were not JAXed in
old verisons.
By the way you can use JAD just in case Orion deleted those wrappers too
fast. It is a Java decompiler written on C++, so it is very fast.


To Darren:
Orion compiles wrappers, jar them and put to
$ORION_PATH/application-deployments/$your_application_name/$jar_file_name
directory/deployment.cache
It is a jar, don't let the name confuse you.

- Original Message -
From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 8:50 AM
Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 The point was that the question was specifically about the wrapper class.

 You are right about JBuilder decompiling classes when it can, but you
forget an
 important fact. The Orion classes are JAXed (Obfuscated) so that feature
is
 defeated no matter which debugger you use unless you have the source or
JAX. :)

 By the way, NetBeans also is a very nice IDE and I use it and JBuilder
quite a
 lot. It is also very cool that it now includes a slick ANT module. I
mention
 this because it is free, and it does remote debugging pretty well. Also as
you
 mentioned it is very easy to set up JBuilder to run Orion in process and
then
 debug from there. See the how-to on orionsupport.com

 Russ

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
  Gertsberg
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:16 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
 
 
  As I said in my email "there ALMOST no need in sources of Orion wrapper
  classes".
  It looks like JBuilder just don't have place where Orion deployed
  Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.class  in it's classpath , so it asks
for
  at least a source of that class.
  I am not an expert in JBuilder but as I heard JBuilder  is one of those
  Debuggers that do decompile of the classes if needed.
 
  Boris
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:15 PM
  Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
 
 
   Boris,
  
   Your statement is true but irrelevant when you want to debug all of
the
  classes
   your application uses. This of course, would include the wrapper
classes.
  :)
   Sometime you want to see exactly what the wrapper is doing behind the
  scenes.
   Usually I don't bother worrying about the wrappers and debug just the
code
  I
   have written, but read the original question and you will understand
my
  reply a
   little better. Specifically read the "Can not locate
   Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project source/class
path"
  part. ;)
   By the way, the previous post about copying the files to a source
  directory
   while they do exist (which is any time before compiling if finished by
  Orion) is
   exactly right, and that is what I do when I have to. Sure would be
nice if
  the
   wrappers would just stick around though. :)
  
   Cheers,
   Russ
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
Gertsberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:36 PM
    To: Orion-Interest
    Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
   
   
Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion wrapper classes.
You
  can
do debugging in your debugger if it supports
JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set breakpoints,
step
through your code in beans and  watch properties just as if it would
be
usual java application.
Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it up.
   
Boris
   
   
- Original Message -
From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
   
   
 Good day to all,

 The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that orion does make
the
source of
 it's wrapper classes available to us developers. There is a split
  second
while
 orion is deploying your app that the source files exist in the
orion
  root
 directory, but the they are quickly snatched away from the prying
eyes
  of
hard
 working developers. So in short you are seeing the message
correctly,
  and
there
 is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few that decompile
  classes
for
 you) that can step through source that does not exist. :)what I
  generally
do in
 a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly after the call you
are
interested
 in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky message and
still
monitor the
 results of the call. Also pla

RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-28 Thread Russ White

You are right, they are not. Thanks! I did not realize the cache file was a jar.
:) Thanks for setting me straight on that one.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
 Gertsberg
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:21 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 To Russ:
 Wrappers generated by Orion are not JAXed. At least they were not JAXed in
 old verisons.
 By the way you can use JAD just in case Orion deleted those wrappers too
 fast. It is a Java decompiler written on C++, so it is very fast.


 To Darren:
 Orion compiles wrappers, jar them and put to
 $ORION_PATH/application-deployments/$your_application_name/$jar_file_name
 directory/deployment.cache
 It is a jar, don't let the name confuse you.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 8:50 AM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


  The point was that the question was specifically about the wrapper class.
 
  You are right about JBuilder decompiling classes when it can, but you
 forget an
  important fact. The Orion classes are JAXed (Obfuscated) so that feature
 is
  defeated no matter which debugger you use unless you have the source or
 JAX. :)
 
  By the way, NetBeans also is a very nice IDE and I use it and JBuilder
 quite a
  lot. It is also very cool that it now includes a slick ANT module. I
 mention
  this because it is free, and it does remote debugging pretty well. Also as
 you
  mentioned it is very easy to set up JBuilder to run Orion in process and
 then
  debug from there. See the how-to on orionsupport.com
 
  Russ
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
   Gertsberg
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:16 PM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
  
  
   As I said in my email "there ALMOST no need in sources of Orion wrapper
   classes".
   It looks like JBuilder just don't have place where Orion deployed
   Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.class  in it's classpath , so it asks
 for
   at least a source of that class.
   I am not an expert in JBuilder but as I heard JBuilder  is one of those
   Debuggers that do decompile of the classes if needed.
  
   Boris
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:15 PM
   Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
  
  
Boris,
   
Your statement is true but irrelevant when you want to debug all of
 the
   classes
your application uses. This of course, would include the wrapper
 classes.
   :)
Sometime you want to see exactly what the wrapper is doing behind the
   scenes.
Usually I don't bother worrying about the wrappers and debug just the
 code
   I
have written, but read the original question and you will understand
 my
   reply a
little better. Specifically read the "Can not locate
Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project source/class
 path"
   part. ;)
By the way, the previous post about copying the files to a source
   directory
while they do exist (which is any time before compiling if finished by
   Orion) is
exactly right, and that is what I do when I have to. Sure would be
 nice if
   the
wrappers would just stick around though. :)
   
Cheers,
Russ
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
 Gertsberg
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:36 PM
     To: Orion-Interest
     Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion wrapper classes.
 You
   can
 do debugging in your debugger if it supports
 JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set breakpoints,
 step
 through your code in beans and  watch properties just as if it would
 be
 usual java application.
 Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it up.

 Boris


 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


  Good day to all,
 
  The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that orion does make
 the
 source of
  it's wrapper classes available to us developers. There is a split
   second
 while
  orion is deploying your app that the source files exist in the
 orion
   root
  directory, but the they are quickly snatched away

RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread Russ White

Good day to all,

The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that orion does make the source of
it's wrapper classes available to us developers. There is a split second while
orion is deploying your app that the source files exist in the orion root
directory, but the they are quickly snatched away from the prying eyes of hard
working developers. So in short you are seeing the message correctly, and there
is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few that decompile classes for
you) that can step through source that does not exist. :)what I generally do in
a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly after the call you are interested
in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky message and still monitor the
results of the call. Also placing a break point in the ejb class itself will
provide a way to step into the ejb.

HTH

Russ White

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Pamatat
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 I have just started working with orion, and have just
 sucessfully finished getting the orion primer ejb
 example running. All works fine.

 Now I'm trying to get this to run under the debugger.
 I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
 necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up JB4 with
 orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have even
 got a simple servlet working where I can step through
 it's code.
 The problem is, when I try this with the orion primer
 simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it stops on
 a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over, until
 I get to the line:

 answer = _hello.sayHello();

 I try and step into this, and the JB debugger won't
 let me. It states in the status bar in red:
 "Can not locate
 Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project
 source/class path"

 I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched and can
 not find it on my system anywhere.

 Is there any way to debug orion ejb components inside
 JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?

 Thanks,
 Darren


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RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread Hani Suleiman

You could make sure you're using javac (to slow down the compilation), and
copy those classes away just before Orion finishes compiling them! Copy
them to your src tree and you should then be able to step through them in
a debugger. Very handy.

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Russ White wrote:

 Good day to all,
 
 The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that orion does make the source of
 it's wrapper classes available to us developers. There is a split second while
 orion is deploying your app that the source files exist in the orion root
 directory, but the they are quickly snatched away from the prying eyes of hard
 working developers. So in short you are seeing the message correctly, and there
 is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few that decompile classes for
 you) that can step through source that does not exist. :)what I generally do in
 a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly after the call you are interested
 in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky message and still monitor the
 results of the call. Also placing a break point in the ejb class itself will
 provide a way to step into the ejb.
 
 HTH
 
 Russ White
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Pamatat
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
 
 
  I have just started working with orion, and have just
  sucessfully finished getting the orion primer ejb
  example running. All works fine.
 
  Now I'm trying to get this to run under the debugger.
  I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
  necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up JB4 with
  orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have even
  got a simple servlet working where I can step through
  it's code.
  The problem is, when I try this with the orion primer
  simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it stops on
  a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over, until
  I get to the line:
 
  answer = _hello.sayHello();
 
  I try and step into this, and the JB debugger won't
  let me. It states in the status bar in red:
  "Can not locate
  Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project
  source/class path"
 
  I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched and can
  not find it on my system anywhere.
 
  Is there any way to debug orion ejb components inside
  JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?
 
  Thanks,
  Darren
 
 
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RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread Russ White

Boris,

Your statement is true but irrelevant when you want to debug all of the classes
your application uses. This of course, would include the wrapper classes. :)
Sometime you want to see exactly what the wrapper is doing behind the scenes.
Usually I don't bother worrying about the wrappers and debug just the code I
have written, but read the original question and you will understand my reply a
little better. Specifically read the "Can not locate
Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project source/class path" part. ;)
By the way, the previous post about copying the files to a source directory
while they do exist (which is any time before compiling if finished by Orion) is
exactly right, and that is what I do when I have to. Sure would be nice if the
wrappers would just stick around though. :)

Cheers,
Russ
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
 Gertsberg
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:36 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion wrapper classes. You can
 do debugging in your debugger if it supports
 JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set breakpoints, step
 through your code in beans and  watch properties just as if it would be
 usual java application.
 Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it up.

 Boris


 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


  Good day to all,
 
  The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that orion does make the
 source of
  it's wrapper classes available to us developers. There is a split second
 while
  orion is deploying your app that the source files exist in the orion root
  directory, but the they are quickly snatched away from the prying eyes of
 hard
  working developers. So in short you are seeing the message correctly, and
 there
  is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few that decompile classes
 for
  you) that can step through source that does not exist. :)what I generally
 do in
  a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly after the call you are
 interested
  in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky message and still
 monitor the
  results of the call. Also placing a break point in the ejb class itself
 will
  provide a way to step into the ejb.
 
  HTH
 
  Russ White
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren Pamatat
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
  
  
   I have just started working with orion, and have just
   sucessfully finished getting the orion primer ejb
   example running. All works fine.
  
   Now I'm trying to get this to run under the debugger.
   I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
   necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up JB4 with
   orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have even
   got a simple servlet working where I can step through
   it's code.
   The problem is, when I try this with the orion primer
   simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it stops on
   a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over, until
   I get to the line:
  
   answer = _hello.sayHello();
  
   I try and step into this, and the JB debugger won't
   let me. It states in the status bar in red:
   "Can not locate
   Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project
   source/class path"
  
   I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched and can
   not find it on my system anywhere.
  
   Is there any way to debug orion ejb components inside
   JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?
  
   Thanks,
   Darren
  
  
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Re: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread Darren Pamatat

I read thru the info on orionsupport, and when
referring to JPDA, it talks about "Enable remote
debugging".
This option is only available under JB Enterprise
($1900 a seat).  We are currently using JB 4 Pro. Is
there any other way around this?

-Darren



--- Boris Gertsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion
 wrapper classes. You can
 do debugging in your debugger if it supports
 JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set
 breakpoints, step
 through your code in beans and  watch properties
 just as if it would be
 usual java application.
 Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it
 up.
 
 Boris
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion
 under Jbuilder?
 
 
  Good day to all,
 
  The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that
 orion does make the
 source of
  it's wrapper classes available to us developers.
 There is a split second
 while
  orion is deploying your app that the source files
 exist in the orion root
  directory, but the they are quickly snatched away
 from the prying eyes of
 hard
  working developers. So in short you are seeing the
 message correctly, and
 there
  is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few
 that decompile classes
 for
  you) that can step through source that does not
 exist. :)what I generally
 do in
  a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly
 after the call you are
 interested
  in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky
 message and still
 monitor the
  results of the call. Also placing a break point in
 the ejb class itself
 will
  provide a way to step into the ejb.
 
  HTH
 
  Russ White
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Darren Pamatat
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: Can not locate . when running orion
 under Jbuilder?
  
  
   I have just started working with orion, and have
 just
   sucessfully finished getting the orion primer
 ejb
   example running. All works fine.
  
   Now I'm trying to get this to run under the
 debugger.
   I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
   necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up
 JB4 with
   orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have
 even
   got a simple servlet working where I can step
 through
   it's code.
   The problem is, when I try this with the orion
 primer
   simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it
 stops on
   a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over,
 until
   I get to the line:
  
   answer = _hello.sayHello();
  
   I try and step into this, and the JB debugger
 won't
   let me. It states in the status bar in red:
   "Can not locate
   Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from
 project
   source/class path"
  
   I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched
 and can
   not find it on my system anywhere.
  
   Is there any way to debug orion ejb components
 inside
   JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?
  
   Thanks,
   Darren
  
  
  
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RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread Jason Boehle

You can buy the Karmira BugSeeker debugger for $199.
http://www.karmira.com/

-Original Message-
From: Darren Pamatat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:41 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


I read thru the info on orionsupport, and when
referring to JPDA, it talks about "Enable remote
debugging".
This option is only available under JB Enterprise
($1900 a seat).  We are currently using JB 4 Pro. Is
there any other way around this?

-Darren



--- Boris Gertsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion
 wrapper classes. You can
 do debugging in your debugger if it supports
 JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set
 breakpoints, step
 through your code in beans and  watch properties
 just as if it would be
 usual java application.
 Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it
 up.
 
 Boris
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion
 under Jbuilder?
 
 
  Good day to all,
 
  The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that
 orion does make the
 source of
  it's wrapper classes available to us developers.
 There is a split second
 while
  orion is deploying your app that the source files
 exist in the orion root
  directory, but the they are quickly snatched away
 from the prying eyes of
 hard
  working developers. So in short you are seeing the
 message correctly, and
 there
  is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few
 that decompile classes
 for
  you) that can step through source that does not
 exist. :)what I generally
 do in
  a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly
 after the call you are
 interested
  in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky
 message and still
 monitor the
  results of the call. Also placing a break point in
 the ejb class itself
 will
  provide a way to step into the ejb.
 
  HTH
 
  Russ White
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Darren Pamatat
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: Can not locate . when running orion
 under Jbuilder?
  
  
   I have just started working with orion, and have
 just
   sucessfully finished getting the orion primer
 ejb
   example running. All works fine.
  
   Now I'm trying to get this to run under the
 debugger.
   I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
   necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up
 JB4 with
   orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have
 even
   got a simple servlet working where I can step
 through
   it's code.
   The problem is, when I try this with the orion
 primer
   simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it
 stops on
   a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over,
 until
   I get to the line:
  
   answer = _hello.sayHello();
  
   I try and step into this, and the JB debugger
 won't
   let me. It states in the status bar in red:
   "Can not locate
   Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from
 project
   source/class path"
  
   I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched
 and can
   not find it on my system anywhere.
  
   Is there any way to debug orion ejb components
 inside
   JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?
  
   Thanks,
   Darren
  
  
  
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Re: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread Boris Gertsberg

Take a look at Netbeans (www.netbeans.org). It is FREE. I don't have JB4
Pro, but there has to be an option to set the main class for application you
want to debug (I think it exists even in JBuilder Foundation). Set it  to
com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer. It will start Orion inside of
JBuilder.

Boris

- Original Message -
From: "Darren Pamatat" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 I read thru the info on orionsupport, and when
 referring to JPDA, it talks about "Enable remote
 debugging".
 This option is only available under JB Enterprise
 ($1900 a seat).  We are currently using JB 4 Pro. Is
 there any other way around this?

 -Darren



 --- Boris Gertsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion
  wrapper classes. You can
  do debugging in your debugger if it supports
  JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set
  breakpoints, step
  through your code in beans and  watch properties
  just as if it would be
  usual java application.
  Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it
  up.
 
  Boris
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Orion-Interest"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
  Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion
  under Jbuilder?
 
 
   Good day to all,
  
   The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that
  orion does make the
  source of
   it's wrapper classes available to us developers.
  There is a split second
  while
   orion is deploying your app that the source files
  exist in the orion root
   directory, but the they are quickly snatched away
  from the prying eyes of
  hard
   working developers. So in short you are seeing the
  message correctly, and
  there
   is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few
  that decompile classes
  for
   you) that can step through source that does not
  exist. :)what I generally
  do in
   a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly
  after the call you are
  interested
   in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky
  message and still
  monitor the
   results of the call. Also placing a break point in
  the ejb class itself
  will
   provide a way to step into the ejb.
  
   HTH
  
   Russ White
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Darren Pamatat
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Can not locate . when running orion
  under Jbuilder?
   
   
I have just started working with orion, and have
  just
sucessfully finished getting the orion primer
  ejb
example running. All works fine.
   
Now I'm trying to get this to run under the
  debugger.
I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up
  JB4 with
orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have
  even
got a simple servlet working where I can step
  through
it's code.
The problem is, when I try this with the orion
  primer
simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it
  stops on
a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over,
  until
I get to the line:
   
answer = _hello.sayHello();
   
I try and step into this, and the JB debugger
  won't
let me. It states in the status bar in red:
"Can not locate
Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from
  project
source/class path"
   
I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched
  and can
not find it on my system anywhere.
   
Is there any way to debug orion ejb components
  inside
JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?
   
Thanks,
Darren
   
   
   
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RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread BCowan


I've been using BugSeeker over the last couple of weeks and it has been
working perfectly.  I like it far better than the JBuilder debugger (IMHO,
combined with SlickEdit and Ant, it beats the hell out of any IDE).
Download a 30-day eval at http://www.karmira.com/.  And at $195, it's very
reasonable.

Bruce

-Original Message-
From: Darren Pamatat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:41 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


I read thru the info on orionsupport, and when
referring to JPDA, it talks about "Enable remote
debugging".
This option is only available under JB Enterprise
($1900 a seat).  We are currently using JB 4 Pro. Is
there any other way around this?

-Darren



--- Boris Gertsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion
 wrapper classes. You can
 do debugging in your debugger if it supports
 JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set
 breakpoints, step
 through your code in beans and  watch properties
 just as if it would be
 usual java application.
 Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it
 up.
 
 Boris
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Orion-Interest"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
 Subject: RE: Can not locate ..... when running orion
 under Jbuilder?
 
 
  Good day to all,
 
  The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that
 orion does make the
 source of
  it's wrapper classes available to us developers.
 There is a split second
 while
  orion is deploying your app that the source files
 exist in the orion root
  directory, but the they are quickly snatched away
 from the prying eyes of
 hard
  working developers. So in short you are seeing the
 message correctly, and
 there
  is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few
 that decompile classes
 for
  you) that can step through source that does not
 exist. :)what I generally
 do in
  a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly
 after the call you are
 interested
  in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky
 message and still
 monitor the
  results of the call. Also placing a break point in
 the ejb class itself
 will
  provide a way to step into the ejb.
 
  HTH
 
  Russ White
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Darren Pamatat
   Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: Can not locate . when running orion
 under Jbuilder?
  
  
   I have just started working with orion, and have
 just
   sucessfully finished getting the orion primer
 ejb
   example running. All works fine.
  
   Now I'm trying to get this to run under the
 debugger.
   I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
   necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up
 JB4 with
   orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have
 even
   got a simple servlet working where I can step
 through
   it's code.
   The problem is, when I try this with the orion
 primer
   simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it
 stops on
   a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over,
 until
   I get to the line:
  
   answer = _hello.sayHello();
  
   I try and step into this, and the JB debugger
 won't
   let me. It states in the status bar in red:
   "Can not locate
   Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from
 project
   source/class path"
  
   I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched
 and can
   not find it on my system anywhere.
  
   Is there any way to debug orion ejb components
 inside
   JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?
  
   Thanks,
   Darren
  
  
  
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Re: Can not locate ..... when running orion under Jbuilder?

2000-12-27 Thread Boris Gertsberg

As I said in my email "there ALMOST no need in sources of Orion wrapper
classes".
It looks like JBuilder just don't have place where Orion deployed
Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.class  in it's classpath , so it asks for
at least a source of that class.
I am not an expert in JBuilder but as I heard JBuilder  is one of those
Debuggers that do decompile of the classes if needed.

Boris

- Original Message -
From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?


 Boris,

 Your statement is true but irrelevant when you want to debug all of the
classes
 your application uses. This of course, would include the wrapper classes.
:)
 Sometime you want to see exactly what the wrapper is doing behind the
scenes.
 Usually I don't bother worrying about the wrappers and debug just the code
I
 have written, but read the original question and you will understand my
reply a
 little better. Specifically read the "Can not locate
 Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project source/class path"
part. ;)
 By the way, the previous post about copying the files to a source
directory
 while they do exist (which is any time before compiling if finished by
Orion) is
 exactly right, and that is what I do when I have to. Sure would be nice if
the
 wrappers would just stick around though. :)

 Cheers,
 Russ
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boris
  Gertsberg
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:36 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Re: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
 
 
  Actually, there almost no need in sources of Orion wrapper classes. You
can
  do debugging in your debugger if it supports
  JPDA (every debugger that I know of do). You can set breakpoints, step
  through your code in beans and  watch properties just as if it would be
  usual java application.
  Read Debugging how-to on orionsupport.com to set it up.
 
  Boris
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:27 AM
  Subject: RE: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
 
 
   Good day to all,
  
   The cause of your (and my) debugging woes is that orion does make the
  source of
   it's wrapper classes available to us developers. There is a split
second
  while
   orion is deploying your app that the source files exist in the orion
root
   directory, but the they are quickly snatched away from the prying eyes
of
  hard
   working developers. So in short you are seeing the message correctly,
and
  there
   is not a debugger in the world  (except for a few that decompile
classes
  for
   you) that can step through source that does not exist. :)what I
generally
  do in
   a case like yours is set a breakpoint directly after the call you are
  interested
   in. That way you can hit F9 when you get your icky message and still
  monitor the
   results of the call. Also placing a break point in the ejb class
itself
  will
   provide a way to step into the ejb.
  
   HTH
  
   Russ White
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darren
Pamatat
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:12 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Can not locate . when running orion under Jbuilder?
   
   
I have just started working with orion, and have just
sucessfully finished getting the orion primer ejb
example running. All works fine.
   
Now I'm trying to get this to run under the debugger.
I have setup Jbuilder 4 projects with all the
necessary orion libs as per doc on setting up JB4 with
orion, and can run the orion app inside. I have even
got a simple servlet working where I can step through
it's code.
The problem is, when I try this with the orion primer
simple ejb example, I hit the servlet, and it stops on
a break point. Good. Now I start stepping over, until
I get to the line:
   
answer = _hello.sayHello();
   
I try and step into this, and the JB debugger won't
let me. It states in the status bar in red:
"Can not locate
Hello_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper0.java from project
source/class path"
   
I'm not sure where this file is, as I searched and can
not find it on my system anywhere.
   
Is there any way to debug orion ejb components inside
JB? Any ideas as what I'm doing wrong?
   
Thanks,
Darren
   
   
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