RE: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was Er ror pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)

2001-04-04 Thread Frank Eggink

You are right. Thanks and humble apologies: it looks like I was constructing my own 
obfuscator ...

On Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:52 PM, Johan Fredriksson 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Are you sure?
> 
> I set my browser to show friendly http error messages and went to a page
> which does not exist. And I get the errorpage as defined in my web.xml
> 
> Visit this page to test :
> 
> http://www.batborsen.com/bb/se/this_page_does_not_exist.html
> 
> the errorpage tag in web.xml looks like this
> 
>  
> 404
> 
> se/batborsen_error.html
> 
>  
> 500
> 
> 
> se/batborsen_error.html
> 
> 
> take an extra look at the location tag...
> 
> I am using IE6
> 
> Johan
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Frank Eggink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:51 PM
> Subject: RE: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was Er
> ror pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)
> 
> 
> > At least for development I can switch them off. Users (and helpdesk) will
> have to live with it.
> >
> > I never knew people could think of developing error message obfuscators
> :-(
> >
> > On Monday, April 02, 2001 7:14 PM, Juan Lorandi (Chile)
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > the error code is sent on the very first line of the response header--
> and
> > > orion doesn't allow you to control that
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Frank Eggink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:56 AM
> > > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > > Subject: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was
> > > > Error pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well ...
> > > >
> > > > How can you spend your weekend?!?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The problem I described looks to be caused by wat's called
> > > > 'friendly error
> > > > messages' from the Internet Explorer. All runs fine with Netscape.
> > > > Microsoft replaces standard 404 'can not find page' errors
> > > > with their own
> > > > page, which is considered (by them) to be more user friendly.
> > > >
> > > > Still I do not understand how the Explorer gets the
> > > > information there is a
> > > > 404 error. Could this be somewhat less wanted feature of
> > > > Orion? I certainly
> > > > would like to have control over this error message.
> > > >
> > > > FE
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, March 30, 2001 5:48 PM, Frank Eggink
> > > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm having a problem. I have defined error pages in my web.xml
> > > > >
> > > > > I've defined:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 404
> > > > > /errors/error404.jsp
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I expect to see the error page when I request a non
> > > > existing page
> > > > like
> > > > > http://localhost/my-app/non-existing-page.html, which does
> > > > not happen.
> > > > I'm
> > > > > obviously overlooking something, but what??
> > > > >
> > > > > [When I define the error page in a jsp page with <%@
> > > > > errorpage=/errors/error404.jsp %> it does work. So it can
> > > > find the page,
> > > > > which gives me the impression I've setup something wrong. What??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > FE
> > > > >
> > > > > Frank Eggink
> > > > > Swift Applications
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > +31 6 28847325 (voice)
> > > > > +31 33 4532464 (fax)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> 
> 




Re: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was Er ror pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)

2001-04-03 Thread Johan Fredriksson

Are you sure?

I set my browser to show friendly http error messages and went to a page
which does not exist. And I get the errorpage as defined in my web.xml

Visit this page to test :

http://www.batborsen.com/bb/se/this_page_does_not_exist.html

the errorpage tag in web.xml looks like this

 
404

se/batborsen_error.html

 
500


se/batborsen_error.html


take an extra look at the location tag...

I am using IE6

Johan


- Original Message -
From: "Frank Eggink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was Er
ror pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)


> At least for development I can switch them off. Users (and helpdesk) will
have to live with it.
>
> I never knew people could think of developing error message obfuscators
:-(
>
> On Monday, April 02, 2001 7:14 PM, Juan Lorandi (Chile)
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > the error code is sent on the very first line of the response header--
and
> > orion doesn't allow you to control that
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Frank Eggink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:56 AM
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was
> > > Error pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)
> > >
> > >
> > > Well ...
> > >
> > > How can you spend your weekend?!?
> > >
> > >
> > > The problem I described looks to be caused by wat's called
> > > 'friendly error
> > > messages' from the Internet Explorer. All runs fine with Netscape.
> > > Microsoft replaces standard 404 'can not find page' errors
> > > with their own
> > > page, which is considered (by them) to be more user friendly.
> > >
> > > Still I do not understand how the Explorer gets the
> > > information there is a
> > > 404 error. Could this be somewhat less wanted feature of
> > > Orion? I certainly
> > > would like to have control over this error message.
> > >
> > > FE
> > >
> > > On Friday, March 30, 2001 5:48 PM, Frank Eggink
> > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm having a problem. I have defined error pages in my web.xml
> > > >
> > > > I've defined:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 404
> > > > /errors/error404.jsp
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Now I expect to see the error page when I request a non
> > > existing page
> > > like
> > > > http://localhost/my-app/non-existing-page.html, which does
> > > not happen.
> > > I'm
> > > > obviously overlooking something, but what??
> > > >
> > > > [When I define the error page in a jsp page with <%@
> > > > errorpage=/errors/error404.jsp %> it does work. So it can
> > > find the page,
> > > > which gives me the impression I've setup something wrong. What??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > FE
> > > >
> > > > Frank Eggink
> > > > Swift Applications
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > +31 6 28847325 (voice)
> > > > +31 33 4532464 (fax)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >





RE: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was Er ror pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)

2001-04-02 Thread Frank Eggink

At least for development I can switch them off. Users (and helpdesk) will have to live 
with it.

I never knew people could think of developing error message obfuscators :-(

On Monday, April 02, 2001 7:14 PM, Juan Lorandi (Chile) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
> the error code is sent on the very first line of the response header-- and
> orion doesn't allow you to control that
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Frank Eggink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:56 AM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Friendly error messages from Microsoft get in the way (was
> > Error pages defined in web.xml not found / activated)
> > 
> > 
> > Well ...
> > 
> > How can you spend your weekend?!?
> > 
> > 
> > The problem I described looks to be caused by wat's called 
> > 'friendly error 
> > messages' from the Internet Explorer. All runs fine with Netscape. 
> > Microsoft replaces standard 404 'can not find page' errors 
> > with their own 
> > page, which is considered (by them) to be more user friendly.
> > 
> > Still I do not understand how the Explorer gets the 
> > information there is a 
> > 404 error. Could this be somewhat less wanted feature of 
> > Orion? I certainly 
> > would like to have control over this error message.
> > 
> > FE
> > 
> > On Friday, March 30, 2001 5:48 PM, Frank Eggink 
> > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm having a problem. I have defined error pages in my web.xml
> > >
> > > I've defined:
> > >
> > > 
> > >   404
> > >   /errors/error404.jsp
> > > 
> > >
> > > Now I expect to see the error page when I request a non 
> > existing page 
> > like
> > > http://localhost/my-app/non-existing-page.html, which does 
> > not happen. 
> > I'm
> > > obviously overlooking something, but what??
> > >
> > > [When I define the error page in a jsp page with <%@
> > > errorpage=/errors/error404.jsp %> it does work. So it can 
> > find the page,
> > > which gives me the impression I've setup something wrong. What??
> > >
> > >
> > > FE
> > >
> > > Frank Eggink
> > > Swift Applications
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > +31 6 28847325 (voice)
> > > +31 33 4532464 (fax)
> > >
> > > 
> > 
>