RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem

2001-02-26 Thread Jeff Schnitzer

If I'm reading the steps correctly, this behavior is actually fully
spec-compliant.  This is the reason I don't use FORM-based login.

j_security_check is only required to be valid immediately after an
attempt to visit a secured page.  There is no provision to be able to
re-enter credentials from the failure page, and the Orion implementation
doesn't allow it.  The user must hit the back button :-(

Also, Orion performs a forward() rather than a redirect() when a
successful login does occur.  Thus the ugly url in the user's browser.
I logged bug #126 against this issue but it was denied :-)

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: gnoht orion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:41 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem


ran into same problem, i think it's a bug in orion.
just remove the j_security_check from your action
field and login will still work, but correct url will
show up. can't really understand why it works this
way, hope it helps.

-t


--- cybermaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I use % authentication (1.4.5, W2K Server,
 jdk1.3), I've got a couple
 of problems:
 (1) Basic setup is: /Home.jsp, link to
 /secure/loginDummy.jsp
 (2) User tries to get to /secure/loginDummy.jsp -
 Orion redirects to
 /login.jsp
 (3) login correct works fine with /login.jsp -
 (browser shows
 /secure/dummyLogin as URL)
 (4a) browser displays /secure/loginDummy.jsp - OK,
 but: - (browser shows
 /secure/j_security_check as URL)
 BUT
 (4b) if first login incorrect, Orion redirects to
 /loginError.jsp - (browser
 shows /secure/j_security_check as URL)
 (5a) error again, page stays at /loginError.jsp jsp
 - (browser shows
 /secure/j_security_check as URL)
 (5b) user enteres correct passwd - "ERROR 404 Not
 Found - Resource
 /formAuth/secure/j_security_check not found on this
 server"
 somehow Orion forgets the correct URL (it shouldn't
 show j_security_check in
 the first place, I guess). The user is actually
 logged in, and can go to the
 /secure/* pages at this time.
 Peter Saurugger
 Everest eCommerce
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 


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RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem

2001-02-26 Thread cybermaster

I agree with Jeff the Servlet 2.2 Spec only specifies that an error page is
returned - so Orion's behaviour is up to spec. To allow continuation of the
login process from loginError page would be an add-on ... cerrtainly a
useful one, because it's more user friendly. But of course, it is Orion's
developers who call the shots.

--peter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:06 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem

If I'm reading the steps correctly, this behavior is actually fully
spec-compliant.  This is the reason I don't use FORM-based login.

j_security_check is only required to be valid immediately after an
attempt to visit a secured page.  There is no provision to be able to
re-enter credentials from the failure page, and the Orion implementation
doesn't allow it.  The user must hit the back button :-(

Also, Orion performs a forward() rather than a redirect() when a
successful login does occur.  Thus the ugly url in the user's browser.
I logged bug #126 against this issue but it was denied :-)

Jeff


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RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem

2001-02-26 Thread Nick Newman

I suppose that you could use the SAME page for login and error.  You could 
tell which context it's being called in by playing with a session variable, 
I think.  That should give you the flexibility you want, and all within spec.

Nick Newman

At 11:31 AM 2/26/01 -0700, you wrote:
I agree with Jeff the Servlet 2.2 Spec only specifies that an error page is
returned - so Orion's behaviour is up to spec. To allow continuation of the
login process from loginError page would be an add-on ... cerrtainly a
useful one, because it's more user friendly. But of course, it is Orion's
developers who call the shots.

--peter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:06 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem

If I'm reading the steps correctly, this behavior is actually fully
spec-compliant.  This is the reason I don't use FORM-based login.

j_security_check is only required to be valid immediately after an
attempt to visit a secured page.  There is no provision to be able to
re-enter credentials from the failure page, and the Orion implementation
doesn't allow it.  The user must hit the back button :-(

Also, Orion performs a forward() rather than a redirect() when a
successful login does occur.  Thus the ugly url in the user's browser.
I logged bug #126 against this issue but it was denied :-)

Jeff






RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem

2001-02-26 Thread Jeff Schnitzer

But then I also want to be able to enter login credentials on the
default page, so now that page must be login-required  error  the
homepage...

While I have no doubt that it could be made to work, this is not an
elegant or appropriate solution to the problem.  Sun needs to fix the
spec.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Nick Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 12:26 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem


I suppose that you could use the SAME page for login and 
error.  You could 
tell which context it's being called in by playing with a 
session variable, 
I think.  That should give you the flexibility you want, and 
all within spec.

Nick Newman

At 11:31 AM 2/26/01 -0700, you wrote:
I agree with Jeff the Servlet 2.2 Spec only specifies that an 
error page is
returned - so Orion's behaviour is up to spec. To allow 
continuation of the
login process from loginError page would be an add-on ... cerrtainly a
useful one, because it's more user friendly. But of course, 
it is Orion's
developers who call the shots.

--peter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
Jeff Schnitzer
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:06 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Orion FORM based authentication Configuraton problem

If I'm reading the steps correctly, this behavior is actually fully
spec-compliant.  This is the reason I don't use FORM-based login.

j_security_check is only required to be valid immediately after an
attempt to visit a secured page.  There is no provision to be able to
re-enter credentials from the failure page, and the Orion 
implementation
doesn't allow it.  The user must hit the back button :-(

Also, Orion performs a forward() rather than a redirect() when a
successful login does occur.  Thus the ugly url in the user's browser.
I logged bug #126 against this issue but it was denied :-)

Jeff