Re: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-10 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger

This is not a test.

If you do not heed this warning, it may happen to you.

This is not a test. 

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> THEY just "informed" me that the Frog is leaping through tiny blue loops.
> SOMEONE tells me that the Bavarian Illuminati has teamed up with BORG and
> are involved in this affair in SOME WAY.
> 
> Fnord! 
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RE: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-10 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Title: SV: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts



Please 
don't "Borg" with with the details, least we "leap" to the wrong conclusions.  


  -Original Message-From: Magnus Rydin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 3:41 
  AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: SV: Re: RE: Simple Java 
  Doubts
  THEY just "informed" me that the Frog is leaping through tiny 
  blue loops. SOMEONE tells me that the Bavarian Illuminati has teamed up with 
  BORG and are involved in this affair in SOME WAY.
  Fnord! 
  > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Skickat: den 10 maj 2001 01:03 > Till: Orion-Interest > Ämne: Re: Re: 
  RE: Simple Java Doubts > > > Resistance is futile, you will be 
  assimilated. > > 
  Johan > - Original Message - 
  > From: "John Hogan" 
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  Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: Re: 
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RE: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-10 Thread Christian . Tellefsen
Title: SV: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts



That's 
an evil communist lie. Please report to the nearest termination 
center.
 
The 
computer is your friend!

  -Original Message-From: Magnus Rydin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 10. mai 2001 
  10:41To: Orion-InterestSubject: SV: Re: RE: Simple Java 
  Doubts
  THEY just "informed" me that the Frog is leaping through tiny 
  blue loops. SOMEONE tells me that the Bavarian Illuminati has teamed up with 
  BORG and are involved in this affair in SOME WAY.
  Fnord! 
  > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Skickat: den 10 maj 2001 01:03 > Till: Orion-Interest > Ämne: Re: Re: 
  RE: Simple Java Doubts > > > Resistance is futile, you will be 
  assimilated. > > 
  Johan > - Original Message - 
  > From: "John Hogan" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Orion-Interest" 
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  Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: Re: 
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Re: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-10 Thread cyclix

The force be with you...





RE: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-10 Thread KishoreBabu.tanety

mama feeel ayyava??

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From: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts


Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

Johan
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:55 PM
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> Santosh,
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> On response 2, if the remote client is actually a web server, the 
> scheme will work nicely. No polling would be necessary, an http 
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> 
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SV: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-10 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: SV: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts





THEY just "informed" me that the Frog is leaping through tiny blue loops. SOMEONE tells me that the Bavarian Illuminati has teamed up with BORG and are involved in this affair in SOME WAY.

Fnord!



> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 10 maj 2001 01:03
> Till: Orion-Interest
> Ämne: Re: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts
> 
> 
> Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
> 
> Johan
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts
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> > On response 2, if the remote client is actually a web server, the 
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Re: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-10 Thread Johan Fredriksson

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

Johan
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From: "John Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts


> Santosh,
> 
> Is the original disclaimer a secret plot to own all content on the 
> orion list? Somehow doesn't seem appropriate.
> 
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> Sent: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:03:18 -0400
> To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts
> 
> 
> On response 2, if the remote client is actually a web server, the 
> scheme will work nicely. No polling would be necessary, an http 
> request would only be issued on event.
> 
> John Hogan
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RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Delahunty

alternatively make the singleton stateless. Then you pass in everything you
need when the method is called. Everything is a local varible and so has no
threading problems.

-Original Message-
From: Alex Paransky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:41 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Simple Java Doubts


1. Use synchronization with the synchronized keyword

2. Since a server cannot open an http port to the remote client, I don't
think HTTP can be used from the server side to notify client of changes.
Client would have to either:
   a. Use polling, by making http requests every so often
   b. Use persistent socket connection to the server
   c. Use "open" http request strategy to always keep an http request
outstanding

-AP_

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Santosh Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:17 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Simple Java Doubts


Question 1:
How does an elementary Singleton pattern based Object behave
in a multi-threaded environment? What is this phenomenon called? How do you
make such a Singleton Object thread safe?

Question 2: What are the two methods typically employed to notify remote
clients distributed over the Internet of events that take place on a
central server?  Like changes in the price of options, market depth, or an
order
execution?  What are the relative advantages/disadvantages of each of
these strategies?  Specifically, how can they be implemented in Java to
allow
for firewall tunneling over HTTP?










Re: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-09 Thread John Hogan

Santosh,

Is the original disclaimer a secret plot to own all content on the 
orion list?  Somehow doesn't seem appropriate.

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From: "John Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:03:18 -0400
To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts


On response 2, if the remote client is actually a web server, the 
scheme will work nicely.  No polling would be necessary, an http 
request would only be issued on event.

John Hogan

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Re: RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-09 Thread John Hogan

On response 2, if the remote client is actually a web server, the 
scheme will work nicely.  No polling would be necessary, an http 
request would only be issued on event.

John Hogan

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RE: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-08 Thread Alex Paransky

1. Use synchronization with the synchronized keyword

2. Since a server cannot open an http port to the remote client, I don't
think HTTP can be used from the server side to notify client of changes.
Client would have to either:
   a. Use polling, by making http requests every so often
   b. Use persistent socket connection to the server
   c. Use "open" http request strategy to always keep an http request
outstanding

-AP_

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Santosh Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:17 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Simple Java Doubts


Question 1:
How does an elementary Singleton pattern based Object behave
in a multi-threaded environment? What is this phenomenon called? How do you
make such a Singleton Object thread safe?

Question 2: What are the two methods typically employed to notify remote
clients distributed over the Internet of events that take place on a
central server?  Like changes in the price of options, market depth, or an
order
execution?  What are the relative advantages/disadvantages of each of
these strategies?  Specifically, how can they be implemented in Java to
allow
for firewall tunneling over HTTP?










Re: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-08 Thread Gary Shea

These questions look like... a test.  The question is, who is being
tested?

Gary

p.s. The word 'doubt' implies suspicion or disagreement; you probably
want to use 'question' instead.

On Today, Santosh Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Question 1:
> How does an elementary Singleton pattern based Object behave
> in a multi-threaded environment? What is this phenomenon called? How do you
> make such a Singleton Object thread safe?
>
> Question 2: What are the two methods typically employed to notify remote
> clients distributed over the Internet of events that take place on a
> central server?  Like changes in the price of options, market depth, or an
> order
> execution?  What are the relative advantages/disadvantages of each of
> these strategies?  Specifically, how can they be implemented in Java to
> allow
> for firewall tunneling over HTTP?
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Simple Java Doubts

2001-05-08 Thread Tim Endres

I believe that both of these questions are completely off-topic.

> Question 1:
> How does an elementary Singleton pattern based Object behave
> in a multi-threaded environment? What is this phenomenon called? How do you
> make such a Singleton Object thread safe?

There are several excellent articles on the net with respect to this specific
question, as well as how it relates to synchronization of the Singleton's code.
A google search will find these articles for you.

> Question 2:

I also believe, having programmed trading systems for over a decade, that
you will find that there are many existing protocols for accomplishing just
this sort of thing. FIX comes to mind. However, this will depend more on
your environment and clients, than it will on Java technology.

> What are the two methods typically employed to notify remote
> clients distributed over the Internet of events that take place on a
> central server?  Like changes in the price of options, market depth, or an
> order
> execution?  What are the relative advantages/disadvantages of each of
> these strategies?  Specifically, how can they be implemented in Java to
> allow
> for firewall tunneling over HTTP?