But is it a thought just popping into the head, or an attempt to find the best approach to a problem, surveying all the different solutions people have used? Personally, I like the Jar approach the best, and it does work well on Solaris. And nobody twists anyone's arm into responding. -----Original Message----- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:56 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: What is a relavent question? I'm sorry, but I (and many others of these 'less-than-professional' programmers you're talking about) feel (rightly or wrongly) that people should not post whenever a thought pops in their heads. That seems like a very lazy approach to problem solving that puts serious doubts on their credentials as a 'professional' anything. EVERYONE has questions that they do not immediately know the answer to. Often, the answer can be found with one or two minutes of searching and investigating. I'd much rather someone spend that time than the 3 minutes it takes for them to write the email, and the hundreds of collective minutes wasted by other people responding (yes, posts like this included!) There is a line between what is OK to ask and what is not. Granted, it's blurry, but I'd like to think that it just requires a little bit of common sense to sense. How to zip things is on the wrong side of that line, serious undocumented quirks with rh7 and java are on the right side. "if you have something stupid to say, don't say anything at all!" :) Trying this tongue biting thing again, Hani On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Thomas Pridham wrote: > Very good post. I try to help out as much as I can, but I also need > assistance from time to time. No one should be afraid to post on this list, > no matter how many times the question has been addressed (i.e. How do I > update to the latest version?). I am growing tired of the > less-than-professional-programmers that provide smart-ass remarks / flames > to people's genuine questions. > > I do feel one solution would be to use a Bulletin Board instead of a mailing > list. That way, the questions could be placed into categories and you > wouldn't have to read a ton of email. Just my opinion.... > > "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!" :) > > Regards, > Tom Pridham > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:59 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: What is a relavent question? > > > This question did occur to me, and Socrates would have a field day with it. > Since this list has everyone from visitors, EJB beginners, EJB server > builders, and anyone in between, what is a relavent question? More > importantly, what is a relavent answer? To me, any question related to > Orion or EJB is relavent. Now there are various positions on giving > answers. Some may say to read the EJB specs Sun put out for answers. > Others will say to read the books on EJB. Some would say to use the search > engines. Still others, like myself, will give answers if we know it. Why do > we do this? To add more EJB folks to the fold, and because we enjoy doing > it. Now I can get off on a tangent sometimes, and there are times that is > good, like trying to present some ideas to help Orion become more popular. > And yes, I also like open source, if it is good or has potential. I run > Apache in production, but I also run Oracle. To zip or not to zip, that is > the question? And many kind folks answered that question. And I, in turn > may someday answer that question. > So what is an irrelavent question? > In all the 190 Stooge shorts, how many contained pie fights? Five > How does the Dali Lama start his day? He meditates for two hours before > listening to the BBC. > Why were people called Mat Hatters in Alice In Wonderland? Because they > made hats using mercury and the fumes drived them made. > Who are my EJB heroes? The folks at Orion, Jboss, and Enhydra, because > they are making affordable EJB servers to make this technology available to > everyone. > Why does Einstein not know his phone number? Because he thought it was > irrelavent information and could look it up in the phone book. > >
