RE: What documentation?

2001-02-27 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971

GUI tools?  Give the guys at Orion some time, and I am sure they will
develop some, or perfect the existing ones.  Same goes with the open source
projects.  They just need some time to mature.  

-Original Message-
From: Gary Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:41 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: What documentation?


Today, Danut Prisacaru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Well, I still have the same problems and I am asking the same question:
why
 is not possible to use a GUI tool to specify all I want for deploying my
 application? Why do I need to go into the application-deployments folder
 and modify what Orion has alredy deployed. If you are stuck and still do
 not get go and play with Sun's RI or WebLogic and ypu will udnerstand what
 I mean.

The same thing was bothering me, because having to modify orion's
deployment descriptors was getting old.
It turns out that you can make the orion web, ejb, and application
deployment documents be part of your distribution.
I create simplified versions that have just the stuff I care about
in them, for instance:

orion-application
autocreate-tables="false"
treat-zero-as-null="false"

/orion-application

By putting these into the appropriate places in your .ear or
directory heirarchy, orion will find them and incorporate the
information you specify in them into the final deployment
descriptor that lives in the application-deployment directory.
It's pretty slick.

Hope that's useful.

Gary


 Speaking about documentation and RFM please go into
 "orion-application.xml.html" and read this:

 "The deployment info for a J2EE-application. Manually created or
 automatically produced when auto-deploying a J2EE-application (.ear). It
 extends and substitutes the assembly info found in the "

 Where is the rest of the sentence?

 Sayonara!
 Danut





Re: What documentation?

2001-02-27 Thread Danut Prisacaru

Thanks Gary!
It does help.

Danut

At 06:41 PM 2/26/2001 -0700, Gary Shea wrote:
The same thing was bothering me, because having to modify orion's
deployment descriptors was getting old.
It turns out that you can make the orion web, ejb, and application
deployment documents be part of your distribution.
I create simplified versions that have just the stuff I care about
in them, for instance:

orion-application
 autocreate-tables="false"
 treat-zero-as-null="false"
 
/orion-application

By putting these into the appropriate places in your .ear or
directory heirarchy, orion will find them and incorporate the
information you specify in them into the final deployment
descriptor that lives in the application-deployment directory.
It's pretty slick.

Hope that's useful.

 Gary


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Re: What documentation?

2001-02-26 Thread Nick Newman

I think I can answer the second question about the dangling sentence.  In 
the DTD the tag description looks like this:

!-- The deployment info for a J2EE-application. Manually created or 
automatically produced when auto-deploying a J2EE-application (.ear).
 It extends and substitutes the assembly info found 
in the --
!ELEMENT orion-application 
(ejb-module*,web-module*,client-module*,security-role-mapping*, 
persistence?, library*, principals?, mail-session*, user-manager?, log?, 
data-sources?, namespace-access?)


and from that it seems fairly clear that the intention was for the sentence 
to run on into the tag name.  That is, the author thought it would be 
fairly clear that it was supposed to end " ...assembly info found in the 
orion-application".

Unfortunately, once the automatic formatting tool got through with it to 
produce the HTML documentation it is nothing like so clear! (At least, 
that's my guess. Anyone got anything better?)


Nick Newman


At 05:37 PM 2/26/01 -0600, you wrote:
A few weeks ago after I asked some questions and posted some opinion I was 
sent by some guys to RFM.

Well, I still have the same problems and I am asking the same question: 
why is not possible to use a GUI tool to specify all I want for deploying 
my application? Why do I need to go into the application-deployments 
folder and modify what Orion has alredy deployed. If you are stuck and 
still do not get go and play with Sun's RI or WebLogic and ypu will 
udnerstand what I mean.

Speaking about documentation and RFM please go into 
"orion-application.xml.html" and read this:

"The deployment info for a J2EE-application. Manually created or 
automatically produced when auto-deploying a J2EE-application (.ear). It 
extends and substitutes the assembly info found in the "

Where is the rest of the sentence?

Sayonara!
Danut


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Re: What documentation?

2001-02-26 Thread Magnus Stenman

No,
it is a convertion error from the template errors that generate these docs rather, it 
has been fixed in the internal bundle to be pushed with the next version a while ago. 
What was to follow was a link ("href") to another document, there's a few places where 
you'll see this happen. The description should have continued after the ref as well 
(and now does). 

Hope it helps!

/Magnus Stenman, the Orion team


- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Newman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: What documentation?


 I think I can answer the second question about the dangling sentence.  In 
 the DTD the tag description looks like this:
 
 !-- The deployment info for a J2EE-application. Manually created or 
 automatically produced when auto-deploying a J2EE-application (.ear).
  It extends and substitutes the assembly info found 
 in the --
 !ELEMENT orion-application 
 (ejb-module*,web-module*,client-module*,security-role-mapping*, 
 persistence?, library*, principals?, mail-session*, user-manager?, log?, 
 data-sources?, namespace-access?)
 
 
 and from that it seems fairly clear that the intention was for the sentence 
 to run on into the tag name.  That is, the author thought it would be 
 fairly clear that it was supposed to end " ...assembly info found in the 
 orion-application".
 
 Unfortunately, once the automatic formatting tool got through with it to 
 produce the HTML documentation it is nothing like so clear! (At least, 
 that's my guess. Anyone got anything better?)
 
 
 Nick Newman
 
 
 At 05:37 PM 2/26/01 -0600, you wrote:
 A few weeks ago after I asked some questions and posted some opinion I was 
 sent by some guys to RFM.
 
 Well, I still have the same problems and I am asking the same question: 
 why is not possible to use a GUI tool to specify all I want for deploying 
 my application? Why do I need to go into the application-deployments 
 folder and modify what Orion has alredy deployed. If you are stuck and 
 still do not get go and play with Sun's RI or WebLogic and ypu will 
 udnerstand what I mean.
 
 Speaking about documentation and RFM please go into 
 "orion-application.xml.html" and read this:
 
 "The deployment info for a J2EE-application. Manually created or 
 automatically produced when auto-deploying a J2EE-application (.ear). It 
 extends and substitutes the assembly info found in the "
 
 Where is the rest of the sentence?
 
 Sayonara!
 Danut
 
 
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