Can Orion wait until the new company is settled, without addressing the bug fixes (at
least)? What are the alternatives?
1. Buy into a high priced EJB or application server, like Weblogic or Websphere. They
are great products but at high prices.
2. Use one of the open source products, like jboss, jonas, or openEJB. The first two
are ready now, and the third will arrive sometime this summer. The good news there is
that, since they are open source, people are actively addressing the bug fixes.
3. Wait until Orion gets settled into the new company.
Orion is a good product, but a product is only as great as the marketing behind it,
and the business plan formulated to address the competition.
-Original Message-
From: Robert Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: SV: Urgent: Orion/SSL with Thawte-Cert (No contact with
Orion her es why)
At 14:06 12.01.2001 , you wrote:
For the new members of the list And those who didnt read the posting
Karl did just before X-mas ... :)
Orionserver is going out of Evermind to found their own company, this is why
it has been silent.
Pls givem time, things like this is extremely timeconsuming, so if they
choose to leave us bait for 2-3 months that might just be for the better,
maby they will get a better organization to handle the product, like support
and so on.
if current bugs haven't ruined our business by then, that is ;-).
For anyone whos been on a fution or setup of a new company they know what im
talking about :)
yes
So if youre patient this just might get better pretty soon :)
I generally agree with you. however, the seriousness of some open issues is
not funny at all. they should at least do a feature freeze and dedicate
minimal manpower to bugfixing but as it stands now they just decided that
the customers out there who have to live with the product NOW are lowest
priority, at least that's how I feel. we've been hearing "wait a little,
things will be getting better, we're working on it" for about a year now.
I'm still sympathetic but highly frustrated and I think I have strong
reasons to feel this way. please keep me posted on any changes to the
status anyway. btw. I read Karl's posting but all I really care about is
changes to the product's quality and the way quality issues are handled. I
wish them the best of luck but as long as I don't see improvements in those
areas any new announcement won't make me happy as long as I don't have a
robust product with current features but all in a production-ready state.
regards,
robert
Laters all
Klaus
-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Robert Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 12. januar 2001 13:18
Til: Orion-Interest
Emne: Re: Urgent: Orion/SSL with Thawte-Cert
At 12:44 12.01.2001 , you wrote:
Hello,
thanks everybody for help!
i discovered that the passwords for the keystore and the
key *must* match.
with my test-certs i always do this.
but the real cert (and keystore) was generated by another person who sets
two different passwords.
after setting the passwords equal - IT WORKS :)))
thanks
klaus
PS:
did anybody who has a orion-licence get response
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or karl/magnus)
are they still alive?
could you keep me posted if anyone responds to that privately? I would also
like to know what's up although I have to admit that I'm so damn frustrated
about this issue that I've become really very pessimistic. has the status
of anyone's bugs changed in the past 2 months? mine haven't.
regards,
robert
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