this is very good show of orion's performance against weblogic (I presume this is appserver X, since they are the only appserver vender that prevents their name from being used in a comparison...gutless!) and websphere: http://technet.oracle.com/tech/java/oc4j/content.html You will have to create an account with otn, but that's pretty easy to do by going to : http://technet.oracle.com/index.html, and clicking the membership link. Its free. Regards, the elephantwalker
