[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

[LyanaHamka]

i want one too.
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

[Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri]

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On 2009 Nov 14, at 02:57 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar  
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

[Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri]

i want

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On 2009 Nov 14, at 02:57 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar  
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

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mee
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thanks in advance

Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan
Information and Communication Technology
Universiti Teknologi Petronas


On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Mohd Hidzuan  wrote:

> tulun invitekan kawan boleh tak tuan..
>
> nasrul - nasrula...@gmail.com
>
> Jazakallahu Khayran
> e1
> ...
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> see through the master, become the master.
>
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>
>
> Sent from Kota Kinabalu, SA, Malaysia
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>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar  > wrote:
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

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salam,

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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation

[Mohd Hidzuan]

tulun invitekan kawan boleh tak tuan..

nasrul - nasrula...@gmail.com

Jazakallahu Khayran
e1
...
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follow the master, walk with the master,
see through the master, become the master.

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Sent from Kota Kinabalu, SA, Malaysia


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[osdcmy-public] Google Wave invitation

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration

[red1]

Freedom Opensource Resource Centre of Excellence should look into 
enhancing Ubuntu and brand as MyBuntu or WaBuntu (i am stuck in Bahasa) :)

Mohd Syukor Abdul wrote:
> Sad but TRUE; :(
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
>
> "More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues 
> they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll," The Register 
> reported. "Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a 
> completely flawless experience."
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[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war? And how FOSS can give 67% ROI to the government

[red1]

Hi Marcus,
Your email account seems to kick back after last mail to u. So i will
use this instead. Thanks for the link u gave in it. 

Yes, it was very interesting talking to you about your project for many
reasons:
1. It is a Malaysian development effort
2. It uses its own business model (saying its not FLOSS is not relevant
here. It is the business experience and insight that you bring that i
value)
3. We can enrich our own experience as to how best to replicate
skillsets locally.
Ok, i accept your point on post-uni developer training. We must make a
note to caveat that - no freshie training or join in during secondary
school level or younger as i alluded to about Azrul's weekend Java
course for kids.

Marcus wrote:

  
  
Malaysia does have its own sofware , the UBS accounting
and InternetNow MailServer :-) . InternetNow had fairly good success in
Malaysia, handful in Singapore and now working out a distribution deal
in Iran for the latest  MailNow!5 and with USA's After logic.
What Inow don't have is branding and mentality advantage attributes to
our foregin competitors such as Merak, Mdaemon and well in some ways ,
MS Exchange. 
  
As a developer in a company pushing locally developed software for
years in Malaysia  (not project based, not customized one off
solutions), i guess the biggest challenge we face
is : 
1. Matching salary Vs Multinational offers. You guys have any idea what
CodeMaster offer fresh grads...go take a peek. 
2. Lack of System developers, (tons of webs developers though..)
3. No recognition from Gov so far, ok we won the PIKOM award and an
award from APMIITA (in my year apmiita first prize went to a kid who
did a football website, since then we decided
its not worth joining such awards)
  
I would want to apologize as Inow sofwares are not in Open Source, so
far in reality, none of our customers ask for the source nor bothered
about it. I had a talk with Red1 during the mygosscon BOF
and tried to learn as much as  i can about how Open source helped him,
in some ways though, he is still unique since he is not just dling and
pushing what everyone else can do, he has somehow (despite not being a
developer!)  end up as a head of the project. We have met a lot of
people with all kinds of emnity against us succeeding as local
software, some just put as on the wayside as "re-inventing the wheel",
some "no match for US products" but at the its the local reseller here
and corporate market welcome us the most. 
  
As for competent developers, i doubt pumping 8k a month can make
anything out. Programming has always been a very individual choice and
talent. What can be done is maybe at the uni levels,
open up their standard and exposure, correct the wrong mentality that
programming is a beginner's job or "uncool" and put competitions that
matches against foreigners programmers. If one can't compare, one cant
understand.
  
  

 

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[osdcmy-public] Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration

[Mohd Syukor Abdul]

Sad but TRUE; :(

Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration

"More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they 
can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll," The Register reported. "Only 
around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely 
flawless experience."

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Who invented the Thumb-Drive?!

[Marcus]

>From what i know, you cannot use the word "thumb drive", its belongs to
a company in Singapore and they are suing and getting royalties from
others
who are using the name. I did attend one of the launch and was informed
that the R&D guy who initially head it off was a Malaysian but that
is only half the story, some
other guys from elsewhere did the development of the first "thumb
drive". 


- cheers


Hadi Kamarudin wrote:

  I'm also believe it, n its been my 1st post to 1malaysia.com.my =)
http://bit.ly/2E1odl

pls share the web address of any comment / feedback for FOSS purpose
that u all post to, hopefully all of us can support each other by
doing the same..on the same website..

what a shame huh..

On 12 Nov, 22:44, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar  wrote:
  
  
I just BELIEVE it. No wonder my another project proposal just get
rejected from MDEC, MALAYSIA.

"and even though his proposal of his USB flash memory (pendrive) was
also rejected by Malaysian authorities, and he was force to stay back
in Taiwan to start his invention"

Maybe next time I can try TAIWAN.

I just come back from a seminar handled by NEF and met few of people
whose their ideas was "considered" to be accepted for Pre-seed fund,
about parking system, hotel booking system..and my idea about FOSS
project, JUST being rejected.

Open your eyes, people, wake up!

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:36 PM, red1  wrote:



  I wonder if this is true? >http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1083727
  


  picked up thru
http://cheehoong.com/entrepreneur/another-lost-talent-from-malaysia-p...
  

  
  


  



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[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war? And how FOSS can give 67% ROI to the government

[Marcus]

Malaysia does have its own sofware , the UBS accounting
and InternetNow MailServer :-) . InternetNow had fairly good success in
Malaysia, handful in Singapore and now working out a distribution deal
in Iran for the latest  MailNow!5 and with USA's After logic.
What Inow don't have is branding and mentality advantage attributes to
our foregin competitors such as Merak, Mdaemon and well in some ways ,
MS Exchange. 

As a developer in a company pushing locally developed software for
years in Malaysia  (not project based, not customized one off
solutions), i guess the biggest challenge we face
is : 
1. Matching salary Vs Multinational offers. You guys have any idea what
CodeMaster offer fresh grads...go take a peek. 
2. Lack of System developers, (tons of webs developers though..)
3. No recognition from Gov so far, ok we won the PIKOM award and an
award from APMIITA (in my year apmiita first prize went to a kid who
did a football website, since then we decided
its not worth joining such awards)

I would want to apologize as Inow sofwares are not in Open Source, so
far in reality, none of our customers ask for the source nor bothered
about it. I had a talk with Red1 during the mygosscon BOF
and tried to learn as much as  i can about how Open source helped him,
in some ways though, he is still unique since he is not just dling and
pushing what everyone else can do, he has somehow (despite not being a
developer!)  end up as a head of the project. We have met a lot of
people with all kinds of emnity against us succeeding as local
software, some just put as on the wayside as "re-inventing the wheel",
some "no match for US products" but at the its the local reseller here
and corporate market welcome us the most. 

As for competent developers, i doubt pumping 8k a month can make
anything out. Programming has always been a very individual choice and
talent. What can be done is maybe at the uni levels,
open up their standard and exposure, correct the wrong mentality that
programming is a beginner's job or "uncool" and put competitions that
matches against foreigners programmers. If one can't compare, one cant
understand.




- cheers





Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

  
  
  
  
  red1, your 2nd slide is based on the pest analysis technique and
not porter's 5 forces
pest analysis : political, economic, social, technological
porter's 5 forces : competitor, newcomer, buyer, supplier, product
  
in the perfect capitalist free market : the best software company is
one that kills off its competitors (until it is the remaining
monopoly), prevent newcomers by registering a string of generic
business method patents, locks-in the buyer to its products, buys-out
its suppliers, and spread fud on competiting products.
  
now if that software company sits in the msc iap, do you think it is
going to help malaysia create it's own software ?
  
kudos to najib for sticking his neck out and telling off the iap
members that its time malaysia had its own software. 
  
imho, we need rm30 million over rmk10 to produce 100 world class
developers. jpa spends minimum rm300k to produce 1 graduate from the
oxbridge and ivy league top world class universities. which means 100
world class developers x rm300k = rm30 million.
  
red1 and myself have already calculated that to produce 1 competent
freshie developer takes 6 months and rm50k (average of rm8k per month).
this person's income value is rm8k per month (using kelly salary guide
max scale for a websphere application developer). with 100 developers
over 5 years the total value is rm50 million. which is a 67% return on
investment ( ROI !) for the govt.
  
we have not even talked about the us$1000 per manday or euro1500 per
manday fees that the top developers can demand.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  2009/11/13 red1 
  
Dalam http://red1.org/MSC8.pdf
saya menyatakan dalam Michael Porter's 5
Forces diagram pada mukasurat 2 dimana cabaran pertandingan dengan
dunia, MSC tengah kalah, dan harapan atau peluangnya saya telah memberi
contoh projek dari kebun di Kuang sebagai berjaya meraut kedudukan
pertama dalam dunia.

Maksud 'perang jenama' adalah penting untuk difahami sebagai satu perang
saraf peringkat antarabangsa. Dalam buku 'Positioning - The Battle of
the Mind' tulisan guru marketing Al Ries dan Jack Trout ada mengambarkan
bahawa realiti adalah bergantung kepada persepsi atau imej.

Dalam perang jenama dengan dunia, YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir dengan memahami
konsep tersebut, berjaya meletakkan persepsi terhadap Malaysia sebagai
sebuah pencabar utama dunia satu ketika dahulu. Mengapa kini imej
tersebut payah dipertahankan? Apakah sudah berubah kebolehan rakyatnya?
Jawapannya ialah tidak. Kami masih belum berubah sebagai pencabar
gergasi dunia. Lihatlah pada tokoh seperti Jimmy Choo, Nichols David,
Michele Yeoh dan pembuat thumb-drive. Apa yang berubah adalah perang
saraf persepsi.

Sebagai contoh, semasa zaman Pak Lah, beliau gagal menonjolkan imej
sepatutnya dan wala

[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war? And how FOSS can give 67% ROI to the government

[red1]

Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
 

  
  red1 and myself have already calculated that
to produce 1 competent freshie developer takes 6 months and rm50k
(average of rm8k per month). this person's income value is rm8k per
month (using kelly salary guide max scale for a websphere application
developer). with 100 developers over 5 years the total value is rm50
million. which is a 67% return on investment ( ROI !) for the govt.
  
  

 not to mention if that knowledge can work from the island of the beach
of Dungun - lowest cost of living in style.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war? And how FOSS can give 67% ROI to the government

[red1]

red1 wrote:
> 4) Having branding campaigns where u land in KLIA you see singboards 
> "Welcome to Multimedia Super Corridor - Land of Firsts' and you have 
> image and sites on Nichol David, Jimmy Choo, Thumbrive maker, Michele 
> Yeoh, red1'

see? i even missed what is MSC's real branding. It should be signboard 
showing images of IC Card, Passport that are firss in the world.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war? And how FOSS can give 67% ROI to the government

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

red1, your 2nd slide is based on the pest analysis technique and not
porter's 5 forces
pest analysis : political, economic, social, technological
porter's 5 forces : competitor, newcomer, buyer, supplier, product

in the perfect capitalist free market : the best software company is one
that kills off its competitors (until it is the remaining monopoly), prevent
newcomers by registering a string of generic business method patents,
locks-in the buyer to its products, buys-out its suppliers, and spread fud
on competiting products.

now if that software company sits in the msc iap, do you think it is going
to help malaysia create it's own software ?

kudos to najib for sticking his neck out and telling off the iap members
that its time malaysia had its own software.

imho, we need rm30 million over rmk10 to produce 100 world class developers.
jpa spends minimum rm300k to produce 1 graduate from the oxbridge and ivy
league top world class universities. which means 100 world class developers
x rm300k = rm30 million.

red1 and myself have already calculated that to produce 1 competent freshie
developer takes 6 months and rm50k (average of rm8k per month). this
person's income value is rm8k per month (using kelly salary guide max scale
for a websphere application developer). with 100 developers over 5 years the
total value is rm50 million. which is a 67% return on investment ( ROI !)
for the govt.

we have not even talked about the us$1000 per manday or euro1500 per manday
fees that the top developers can demand.








2009/11/13 red1 

>
> Dalam http://red1.org/MSC8.pdf saya menyatakan dalam Michael Porter's 5
> Forces diagram pada mukasurat 2 dimana cabaran pertandingan dengan
> dunia, MSC tengah kalah, dan harapan atau peluangnya saya telah memberi
> contoh projek dari kebun di Kuang sebagai berjaya meraut kedudukan
> pertama dalam dunia.
>
> Maksud 'perang jenama' adalah penting untuk difahami sebagai satu perang
> saraf peringkat antarabangsa. Dalam buku 'Positioning - The Battle of
> the Mind' tulisan guru marketing Al Ries dan Jack Trout ada mengambarkan
> bahawa realiti adalah bergantung kepada persepsi atau imej.
>
> Dalam perang jenama dengan dunia, YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir dengan memahami
> konsep tersebut, berjaya meletakkan persepsi terhadap Malaysia sebagai
> sebuah pencabar utama dunia satu ketika dahulu. Mengapa kini imej
> tersebut payah dipertahankan? Apakah sudah berubah kebolehan rakyatnya?
> Jawapannya ialah tidak. Kami masih belum berubah sebagai pencabar
> gergasi dunia. Lihatlah pada tokoh seperti Jimmy Choo, Nichols David,
> Michele Yeoh dan pembuat thumb-drive. Apa yang berubah adalah perang
> saraf persepsi.
>
> Sebagai contoh, semasa zaman Pak Lah, beliau gagal menonjolkan imej
> sepatutnya dan walaupun beliau seorang yang cukup baik, namun persepsi
> umum terhadapnya menjatuhkannya. Begitu juga mengenai MSC, saya percaya
> pencapaian MSC cukup tinggi. Lihatlah kad pengenalan bercip dan passport
> automatik kita yang tidak ada tandingan lain di dunia? Tetapi apakah
> dunia sedar tentang itu?
>
> Apabila saya berjalan masuk ke pekarangan MDec, saya tidak dapat merasa
> imej tersebut dari papan-papan iklan dan ayat-ayat yang terpampar kiri,
> kanan dan atas dinding. Jika saya berjalan masuk Universiti Lim Kok
> Wing, saya dapat rasa kebijaksanaan LKW dalam mempertonjolkan tempatnya
> sebagai tokoh besar dunia, walaupun saya tidak percaya kepada Lim Kok
> Wing secara peribadi dan tidak ingin membantunya. Saya percaya kepada
> jenama Malaysia dan ingin membantu Malaysia.
>
> Hakikatnya kita nombor 1. Tetapi kita gagal menjual diri kita kepada
> dunia. Sudah sampai masanya kita sedar tentang betapa pentingnya
> memahami teori menaikkan jenama yang sebenarnya dan mengorak langkah ke
> arah itu. Saya syorkan kepada mereka yang ingin mengetahui lebih lanjut
> supaya Google atau Wikipedia untuk 'Al Ries' and 'Jack Trout'.
>
> red1
>
>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] MSC losing the branding war?

[red1]

Dalam http://red1.org/MSC8.pdf saya menyatakan dalam Michael Porter's 5 
Forces diagram pada mukasurat 2 dimana cabaran pertandingan dengan 
dunia, MSC tengah kalah, dan harapan atau peluangnya saya telah memberi 
contoh projek dari kebun di Kuang sebagai berjaya meraut kedudukan 
pertama dalam dunia.

Maksud 'perang jenama' adalah penting untuk difahami sebagai satu perang 
saraf peringkat antarabangsa. Dalam buku 'Positioning - The Battle of 
the Mind' tulisan guru marketing Al Ries dan Jack Trout ada mengambarkan 
bahawa realiti adalah bergantung kepada persepsi atau imej.

Dalam perang jenama dengan dunia, YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir dengan memahami 
konsep tersebut, berjaya meletakkan persepsi terhadap Malaysia sebagai 
sebuah pencabar utama dunia satu ketika dahulu. Mengapa kini imej 
tersebut payah dipertahankan? Apakah sudah berubah kebolehan rakyatnya? 
Jawapannya ialah tidak. Kami masih belum berubah sebagai pencabar 
gergasi dunia. Lihatlah pada tokoh seperti Jimmy Choo, Nichols David, 
Michele Yeoh dan pembuat thumb-drive. Apa yang berubah adalah perang 
saraf persepsi.

Sebagai contoh, semasa zaman Pak Lah, beliau gagal menonjolkan imej 
sepatutnya dan walaupun beliau seorang yang cukup baik, namun persepsi 
umum terhadapnya menjatuhkannya. Begitu juga mengenai MSC, saya percaya 
pencapaian MSC cukup tinggi. Lihatlah kad pengenalan bercip dan passport 
automatik kita yang tidak ada tandingan lain di dunia? Tetapi apakah 
dunia sedar tentang itu?

Apabila saya berjalan masuk ke pekarangan MDec, saya tidak dapat merasa 
imej tersebut dari papan-papan iklan dan ayat-ayat yang terpampar kiri, 
kanan dan atas dinding. Jika saya berjalan masuk Universiti Lim Kok 
Wing, saya dapat rasa kebijaksanaan LKW dalam mempertonjolkan tempatnya 
sebagai tokoh besar dunia, walaupun saya tidak percaya kepada Lim Kok 
Wing secara peribadi dan tidak ingin membantunya. Saya percaya kepada 
jenama Malaysia dan ingin membantu Malaysia.

Hakikatnya kita nombor 1. Tetapi kita gagal menjual diri kita kepada 
dunia. Sudah sampai masanya kita sedar tentang betapa pentingnya 
memahami teori menaikkan jenama yang sebenarnya dan mengorak langkah ke 
arah itu. Saya syorkan kepada mereka yang ingin mengetahui lebih lanjut 
supaya Google atau Wikipedia untuk 'Al Ries' and 'Jack Trout'.

red1

 

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Letter for Dr. M meeting

[red1]

The letter should be about kunjungan hormat ke Tun oleh OSDC.my and
asking his advice on how best to perjuangkan sesuatu yang baru. Same
time  we like to update Tun on open source future and value to
Malaysia, generasi depan and the world.

Sesiapa yang nak ikut nanti baik sediakan sajak ke 'perjuangan yang
belum habis'? :)

Hadi Kamarudin wrote:

  can u share the important points of the letter? tq

On 13 Nov, 12:13, red1  wrote:
  
  
Yun,
As requested by Dr. M's office, please facilitate that cover letter and
we then get Haris as our honourable protem Chairman to sign.

red1

p/s i tried to send this email to osdc private list but it got kicked back.

  
  

 



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Who invented the Thumb-Drive?!

[rafe azsnal]

Me

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On Nov 13, 2009 9:21 PM, "norly"  wrote:

On 11/13/09, Hadi Kamarudin  wrote: > > Whatever
happen, we'll need to foc...
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Who invented the Thumb-Drive?!

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On 11/13/09, Hadi Kamarudin  wrote:
>
> Whatever happen, we'll need to focus on our vision..establish our own
> International Open Source University,yeah!
>
> Try to survive what ever it is,build our own strength n others will
> respect to us!
> then they start believe in us..
>
> ..as i knew what u all already done, its all about our leaders'
> mentality..they should lead proudly n b good example to the rakyat!
>
> but likely they are the 'rakyat' for cyberworld 'country' leaders;SAP!
>
> anyone good in politics here?
>
> On 13 Nov, 11:02, Eric Yeoh  wrote:
>> Tell as it is bro.
>>
>> Same as for education, as I was not good enough for UM or USM but good
>> enough for University of Liverpool, NSW, RMIT, Perth and Waikato.
>>
>> Sad eh?
>>
>> I ended up studying at Informatics as I couldn't even afford the
>> airfare to any of the places.
>>
>> Really Boleh
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM, ApOgEE  wrote:
>> > Aahhh.. typical Malaysia... when someone have done something great, baru
>> > nak
>> > mengaku "Hey, he is Malaysian!!"... before that, nobody cares about Pua
>> > Khein Seng nor even MSC or MDEC or anything from Malaysia granted his
>> > invention...
>>
>> > ... "However, the most ironic thing is this, it is claimed to be a
>> > “TAIWAN
>> > TECHNOLOGY” instead of “MALAYSIA TECHNOLOGY“. First of all, the
>> > technology
>> > is patented under a TAIWAN company, funded and invented in TAIWAN,
>> > hence, it
>> > is a TAIWAN TECHNOLOGY. This is just one “in your face” disgraced for
>> > MSC
>> > MALAYSIA, that has missed an opportunity to sparkle and polish Malaysian
>> > capabilities that all pendrive around the world is a MALAYSIA
>> > TECHNOLOGY. "
>>
>> > Bizkut, try to go to Taiwan la... hahahahah... when u success, they will
>> > say
>> > again... "Hey look, Bizkut is Malaysian who invent xxx!!"
>> > hehehehe...
>> > hehehehe... dan hehehehe... lagi
>>
>> > --
>> > Best Wishes,
>>
>> > ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN
>> > 
>> >https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee- ApOgEE on LaunchPad
>> >http://artofapogee.blogspot.com- Art Of ApOgEE
>> >http://coderstalk.blogspot.com- Coder's Talk
>> > 
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Letter for Dr. M meeting

[Najah]

noted.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:13 PM, red1  wrote:

>
> Yun,
> As requested by Dr. M's office, please facilitate that cover letter and
> we then get Haris as our honourable protem Chairman to sign.
>
> red1
>
> p/s i tried to send this email to osdc private list but it got kicked back.
>
> >
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Letter for Dr. M meeting

[Hadi Kamarudin]

can u share the important points of the letter? tq

On 13 Nov, 12:13, red1  wrote:
> Yun,
> As requested by Dr. M's office, please facilitate that cover letter and
> we then get Haris as our honourable protem Chairman to sign.
>
> red1
>
> p/s i tried to send this email to osdc private list but it got kicked back.
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Who invented the Thumb-Drive?!

[Hadi Kamarudin]

Whatever happen, we'll need to focus on our vision..establish our own
International Open Source University,yeah!

Try to survive what ever it is,build our own strength n others will
respect to us!
then they start believe in us..

..as i knew what u all already done, its all about our leaders'
mentality..they should lead proudly n b good example to the rakyat!

but likely they are the 'rakyat' for cyberworld 'country' leaders;SAP!

anyone good in politics here?

On 13 Nov, 11:02, Eric Yeoh  wrote:
> Tell as it is bro.
>
> Same as for education, as I was not good enough for UM or USM but good
> enough for University of Liverpool, NSW, RMIT, Perth and Waikato.
>
> Sad eh?
>
> I ended up studying at Informatics as I couldn't even afford the
> airfare to any of the places.
>
> Really Boleh
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM, ApOgEE  wrote:
> > Aahhh.. typical Malaysia... when someone have done something great, baru nak
> > mengaku "Hey, he is Malaysian!!"... before that, nobody cares about Pua
> > Khein Seng nor even MSC or MDEC or anything from Malaysia granted his
> > invention...
>
> > ... "However, the most ironic thing is this, it is claimed to be a “TAIWAN
> > TECHNOLOGY” instead of “MALAYSIA TECHNOLOGY“. First of all, the technology
> > is patented under a TAIWAN company, funded and invented in TAIWAN, hence, it
> > is a TAIWAN TECHNOLOGY. This is just one “in your face” disgraced for MSC
> > MALAYSIA, that has missed an opportunity to sparkle and polish Malaysian
> > capabilities that all pendrive around the world is a MALAYSIA TECHNOLOGY. "
>
> > Bizkut, try to go to Taiwan la... hahahahah... when u success, they will say
> > again... "Hey look, Bizkut is Malaysian who invent xxx!!" hehehehe...
> > hehehehe... dan hehehehe... lagi
>
> > --
> > Best Wishes,
>
> > ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN
> > 
> >https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee- ApOgEE on LaunchPad
> >http://artofapogee.blogspot.com- Art Of ApOgEE
> >http://coderstalk.blogspot.com- Coder's Talk
> > 
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