Re: [osdcmy-public] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome
mendeley also is a good software but I prefer zotero...:) On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Nadeem wrote: > i use ubuntu 9.10 and i use mendeley for citation and making my papers i > found it as the best software to do so > and it is compatible with open office > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, saifuladli ismail < > ismail.saifula...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> najmi here is the version zotero addon I use with FF3.6.3. hope it will >> help u. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi < >> najmi.zab...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> saiful, i also use Zotero, but it didn't work with Open Office. >>> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with FF-3.5.8 and OOO 3.1.1 >>> any clue? >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, saifuladli ismail >>> wrote: >>> > compare firefox with opera and chrome, As a researchers upon of view, I >>> > select Firefox because it support zotero as add on application to help >>> > researchers to manage paper and journal citation and bibliography. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, fenris wrote: >>> >> >>> >> hola guys, >>> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp this going to be >>> interesting >>> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores pls put in ur input - >>> we're >>> >> interested to see how >>> >> the battle goes muahahahahaha >>> >> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those browsers .. things we're looking >>> at: >>> >> - scalability >>> >> - namespace >>> >> - speed >>> >> - syntax >>> >> - does it work well with all programming language? (php, java, html, >>> >> python n >>> >> etc) >>> >> - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility? >>> >> - look n feel >>> >> - OS platform supported >>> >> - .. put ur input here .. >>> >> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n >>> cons >>> >> for both languages >>> >> if you have references, please kindly provide ;) >>> >> thx >>> >> >>> >> *p/s: thanks/credit to cawanpink because im borrowing her words ... >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>> >> >>> >> Facebook Fan page >>> >> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>> >> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>> >> >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> >>> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>> > >>> > Facebook Fan page >>> > >>> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>> > >>> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>> > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > >>> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> >>> -- >>> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>> >>> Facebook Fan page >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> >>> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. >>> >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > -- Join O
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
The more we're exposed, the more we'll understand... and the more we able to see the pros and cons ;) Regards, CL Chow "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/"; On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Boh Yap wrote: > Ang, > > you're right, this is all in fun... those of us who know a few > languages know that.. perhaps the pt is to educate the noobs, or the > monolinguists ;-) > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM, darXness darXness > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ang Chin Han > wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote: > >>> > >>> hola guys, > >>> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting > >>> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see > how the battle goes muahahahahaha > >>> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at: > >>> - scalability > >>> - namespace > >>> - speed > >>> - syntax > >>> - .. put ur input here .. > >>> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n > cons for both languages > >> > >> Language wars are as silly as distro wars. > >> > >> Don't use PHP like Java. Don't use Java like Perl. Don't use Perl like > >> C++. Don't use C++ like PHP. But by all means use all of them, maybe > >> even for the same system. > >> > >> All languages suck, when viewed from their weak points. "namespace" in > >> PHP, hah. Or multi-threading in Python. Or performance in Ruby. > >> Importances is how you use them to bring out their best points, > >> together. Facebook uses the lowly PHP (with help from Cassandra), > >> twitter use(d) the "slow" Ruby on Rails (with help from Scala), etc. > >> See the Unix Philosophy's "make each program do one thing well" point. > >> perl is excellent for scripting and getting different programs and > >> languages to work together. But when you start writing baroque > >> applications purely in perl... ick. > >> > > +1 ..agree.each language have their main target. > >> P.S. The lowly Javascript (V8) beat the crap out of compiled languages > >> at one particular benchmark, thanks to a really good regex engine. > >> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/performance.php?test=regexdna > >> Fun to note: the 2nd best program at that benchmark is c (gcc), but it > >> calls tcl's (how many of you still remembers that language?) regex > >> engine to achieve that feat. > >> > >> The duct tape programmer, > >> Han > >> > >> -- > >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > >> > >> Facebook Fan page > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > >> > >> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > >> > > > > -- > > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > > > Facebook Fan page > > > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > > > > -- > #--- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
Ang, you're right, this is all in fun... those of us who know a few languages know that.. perhaps the pt is to educate the noobs, or the monolinguists ;-) On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM, darXness darXness wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ang Chin Han wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote: >>> >>> hola guys, >>> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting >>> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how >>> the battle goes muahahahahaha >>> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at: >>> - scalability >>> - namespace >>> - speed >>> - syntax >>> - .. put ur input here .. >>> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n cons >>> for both languages >> >> Language wars are as silly as distro wars. >> >> Don't use PHP like Java. Don't use Java like Perl. Don't use Perl like >> C++. Don't use C++ like PHP. But by all means use all of them, maybe >> even for the same system. >> >> All languages suck, when viewed from their weak points. "namespace" in >> PHP, hah. Or multi-threading in Python. Or performance in Ruby. >> Importances is how you use them to bring out their best points, >> together. Facebook uses the lowly PHP (with help from Cassandra), >> twitter use(d) the "slow" Ruby on Rails (with help from Scala), etc. >> See the Unix Philosophy's "make each program do one thing well" point. >> perl is excellent for scripting and getting different programs and >> languages to work together. But when you start writing baroque >> applications purely in perl... ick. >> > +1 ..agree.each language have their main target. >> P.S. The lowly Javascript (V8) beat the crap out of compiled languages >> at one particular benchmark, thanks to a really good regex engine. >> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/performance.php?test=regexdna >> Fun to note: the 2nd best program at that benchmark is c (gcc), but it >> calls tcl's (how many of you still remembers that language?) regex >> engine to achieve that feat. >> >> The duct tape programmer, >> Han >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. >> > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ang Chin Han wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote: >> >> hola guys, >> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting >> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how >> the battle goes muahahahahaha >> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at: >> - scalability >> - namespace >> - speed >> - syntax >> - .. put ur input here .. >> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n cons >> for both languages > > Language wars are as silly as distro wars. > > Don't use PHP like Java. Don't use Java like Perl. Don't use Perl like > C++. Don't use C++ like PHP. But by all means use all of them, maybe > even for the same system. > > All languages suck, when viewed from their weak points. "namespace" in > PHP, hah. Or multi-threading in Python. Or performance in Ruby. > Importances is how you use them to bring out their best points, > together. Facebook uses the lowly PHP (with help from Cassandra), > twitter use(d) the "slow" Ruby on Rails (with help from Scala), etc. > See the Unix Philosophy's "make each program do one thing well" point. > perl is excellent for scripting and getting different programs and > languages to work together. But when you start writing baroque > applications purely in perl... ick. > +1 ..agree.each language have their main target. > P.S. The lowly Javascript (V8) beat the crap out of compiled languages > at one particular benchmark, thanks to a really good regex engine. > http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/performance.php?test=regexdna > Fun to note: the 2nd best program at that benchmark is c (gcc), but it > calls tcl's (how many of you still remembers that language?) regex > engine to achieve that feat. > > The duct tape programmer, > Han > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome
I gotta choose Firefox, primarily because of Selenium On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Nadeem wrote: > i use ubuntu 9.10 and i use mendeley for citation and making my papers i > found it as the best software to do so > and it is compatible with open office > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, saifuladli ismail < > ismail.saifula...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> najmi here is the version zotero addon I use with FF3.6.3. hope it will >> help u. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi < >> najmi.zab...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> saiful, i also use Zotero, but it didn't work with Open Office. >>> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with FF-3.5.8 and OOO 3.1.1 >>> any clue? >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, saifuladli ismail >>> wrote: >>> > compare firefox with opera and chrome, As a researchers upon of view, I >>> > select Firefox because it support zotero as add on application to help >>> > researchers to manage paper and journal citation and bibliography. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, fenris wrote: >>> >> >>> >> hola guys, >>> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp this going to be >>> interesting >>> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores pls put in ur input - >>> we're >>> >> interested to see how >>> >> the battle goes muahahahahaha >>> >> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those browsers .. things we're looking >>> at: >>> >> - scalability >>> >> - namespace >>> >> - speed >>> >> - syntax >>> >> - does it work well with all programming language? (php, java, html, >>> >> python n >>> >> etc) >>> >> - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility? >>> >> - look n feel >>> >> - OS platform supported >>> >> - .. put ur input here .. >>> >> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n >>> cons >>> >> for both languages >>> >> if you have references, please kindly provide ;) >>> >> thx >>> >> >>> >> *p/s: thanks/credit to cawanpink because im borrowing her words ... >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>> >> >>> >> Facebook Fan page >>> >> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>> >> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>> >> >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> >>> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>> > >>> > Facebook Fan page >>> > >>> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>> > >>> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>> > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > >>> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> >>> -- >>> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>> >>> Facebook Fan page >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> >>> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. >>> >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > -- Join Ope
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote: > > hola guys, > php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting > php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how > the battle goes muahahahahaha > OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at: > - scalability > - namespace > - speed > - syntax > - .. put ur input here .. > of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n cons > for both languages Language wars are as silly as distro wars. Don't use PHP like Java. Don't use Java like Perl. Don't use Perl like C++. Don't use C++ like PHP. But by all means use all of them, maybe even for the same system. All languages suck, when viewed from their weak points. "namespace" in PHP, hah. Or multi-threading in Python. Or performance in Ruby. Importances is how you use them to bring out their best points, together. Facebook uses the lowly PHP (with help from Cassandra), twitter use(d) the "slow" Ruby on Rails (with help from Scala), etc. See the Unix Philosophy's "make each program do one thing well" point. perl is excellent for scripting and getting different programs and languages to work together. But when you start writing baroque applications purely in perl... ick. P.S. The lowly Javascript (V8) beat the crap out of compiled languages at one particular benchmark, thanks to a really good regex engine. http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/performance.php?test=regexdna Fun to note: the 2nd best program at that benchmark is c (gcc), but it calls tcl's (how many of you still remembers that language?) regex engine to achieve that feat. The duct tape programmer, Han -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: [osdcmy-public] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome
i use ubuntu 9.10 and i use mendeley for citation and making my papers i found it as the best software to do so and it is compatible with open office On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, saifuladli ismail < ismail.saifula...@gmail.com> wrote: > najmi here is the version zotero addon I use with FF3.6.3. hope it will > help u. > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi < > najmi.zab...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> saiful, i also use Zotero, but it didn't work with Open Office. >> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with FF-3.5.8 and OOO 3.1.1 >> any clue? >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, saifuladli ismail >> wrote: >> > compare firefox with opera and chrome, As a researchers upon of view, I >> > select Firefox because it support zotero as add on application to help >> > researchers to manage paper and journal citation and bibliography. >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM, fenris wrote: >> >> >> >> hola guys, >> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp this going to be interesting >> >> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores pls put in ur input - >> we're >> >> interested to see how >> >> the battle goes muahahahahaha >> >> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those browsers .. things we're looking at: >> >> - scalability >> >> - namespace >> >> - speed >> >> - syntax >> >> - does it work well with all programming language? (php, java, html, >> >> python n >> >> etc) >> >> - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility? >> >> - look n feel >> >> - OS platform supported >> >> - .. put ur input here .. >> >> of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n >> cons >> >> for both languages >> >> if you have references, please kindly provide ;) >> >> thx >> >> >> >> *p/s: thanks/credit to cawanpink because im borrowing her words ... >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> > >> > -- >> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> > >> > Facebook Fan page >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > >> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. >> > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] PyCon APAC - Tutorial + Conference Registration Open - NOW!
Hi all Registration for PyCon Asia Pacific is *OPEN!* (Early bird registration – by end April 2010) [image: PyCon APAC Poster.jpg] We look forward to seeing you in Singapore! Sincerely PyCon APAC Organizing Committee PS : If you’ve never been to Singapore, check out : http://www.yoursingapore.com/content/traveller/en/experience.html -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
A few points here: @Haris, Nuhaa better to scale down the scope, Python vs PHP FOR WEB PROGRAMMING, would be a better directive. But being unfair to Python? I hardly think so. Frameworks like Django can go head to head with Joomla anytime, Zope/Plone can scale to Wikipedia/Facebook size anytime... The reason why ppl start with PHP, is its easy to get started. There are 1-click installers for Windoze users that does the whole LAMP stack (thats why many just stick to MySQL, becos its included) and similar for Linux. With Python you still have to install the individual SW, yourself. And Web programming is far from trivial you need the following: a web server a database engine a templating engine an application server (PHP, Python or equivalent framework that handles HTML generation) and you still have to build the business logic yourself. So an easy installer is the 1st step. The second step, once you know HTML, is " aha, PHP is simple, you just embed code into the html to generate more HTML..." Good and easy for the noob to understand, no need to understand DOM, CSS, etc... BUT it breaks a major programming paradigm entrnched in the Unix world, "Seperate presentation from logic, in code". So you end up wit millions of sites built in this mess, and after it grows to a certain size, it becomes almost impossible to change, the structure/design and just keep patching it and a maintenance nightmare... So we wonder why there is no adption for the new PHP5(?) which does things in a different(better) way? by then its like a black hole you can't escape its gravity! On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Marcus Low wrote: > So in conclusion to what i am saying : > > PHP is ugly because its trying to do what it was not designed for and doing > that to "survive". > > But PHP in web dev is undeniably simple and nice and it should be kept that > way. > > Hence my first postingPHP vs Python ? Are you kidding me! > > > > Marcus Low wrote: >> >> Use cobol then . >> >> C/C++ is not ugly. They have a learning curve and no way should it be >> associated with PHP. >> C/C++ is the mother of all the popular languages you know today and what >> did you think PHP, python interpreter, linux, windows, OSX is written in? >> >> The badminton racket is not a correct analogy for one reason, both the >> wood racket and the iron racket is designed to do only >> one thing. Languages on the other hand are different. C/C++/Java/C# these >> languages are used to be general and able to grow far and wide due to >> the language design. PHP is conceived with the intention of doing web >> pages apps and it can never grow out of that main design without being ugly >> just >> like how Basic was designed to be a learning language. >> >> SQL is also arguable a programming language but designed for database, if >> you want to do SQL capabilities with C/C++/Java/Python/PHP u can >> see how different and it is (LINQ ?). Or try adding in SQL capabilities >> to do socket programming and Web apps and you can see how ugly it can get. >> >> Back to the badminton, the correct analogy would be : You use the correct >> racket in the badminton court. Pass LCW a ping pong bat and i can tell you >> i have good chances to trouce him. >> >> - cheers >> >> >> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >>> >>> Amran +10 >>> >>> Hehehe. >>> >>> Its all depend on the programmer. If he or she good and know what he or >>> she want >>> any programming language suitable for him or her. >>> >>> Programming is an art. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Ahmad Amran wrote: >>> I think if someone saying PHP is ugly is like saying C and C++ is also ugly. If they all ugly siblings and C is no 1, C++ no 3 and PHP no 4 this month on Tiobe index. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html. I think i dont mind being ugly:p. (luckily I'm quite handsome. Hahah). Anyway this argument is quite useless. It's like badminton , if I'm using 500 rm racket and LCW using rm 50 racket and we play single , everybody will know the result;). It's not the language, but the programmer to make the apps an art. Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.
