[osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
salam good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language. java is on a declining trend. php surprisingly upward trend. and the language yg orang suka kutuk / gelak / mock is at #5. other interesting thing to see is the super star rise of Objective C and Go (? ni language apa pula) and the upward trend of C# AJ -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
aj where have you been ? we have been quoting the tiobe index in the flaming php vs python war well not really lah be interesting to see anyone do a framework with php as presentation layer with python on the backend (like an abstraction layer). some good backend stuff like analytics, etl (which currently is the premise of java) modern ide like eclipse or netbeans could possibly facilitate this type of frameworks On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: salam good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language. java is on a declining trend. php surprisingly upward trend. and the language yg orang suka kutuk / gelak / mock is at #5. other interesting thing to see is the super star rise of Objective C and Go (? ni language apa pula) and the upward trend of C# AJ -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: Update Community Leaders 1) Joomla - En. Shaifullnizam shaifful...@gmail.com 2) Ubuntu - En. Khairul Aizat fen...@ubuntu.com 3) Fedora - En Syamsul Anuar wari...@gmail.com wari...@gmail.com4) Python - 5) Fosschix - 6) PHP - En. Amran r0k...@gmail.com 7) PCBSD - En. Ahmad Arafat trunas...@gmail.com 8) PhpNuke - 9) Debian - 10) Slackware - 12) Ruby - 13) FOSS.MY - 14) SimpleLinux - 15) Kedah OSS - 16) Melaka OSS - 17) Kuching OSS - 18) Sabah OSS - 19) Kelantan OSS - 20) Trengganu OSS - 21- KTNLUG (Kuantan LUG ) - Mr Zamri On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: OSDC.MY is a platform for any OSS community in Malaysia gather in one roof. Otherwise OSS community will scatter around Malaysia and nobody know it. We seek any OSS community to join OSDC.MY and promote all the OSS community to Malaysian that OSS community was exist and they can join any OSS community. :) BTW update KOSC in database. I wil update all the list and person contact each community. Thanks On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, archayl arch...@gmail.com wrote: LoL. Shame on me ;). Just thought that it'd be nice if OSDC.my is along the same level with everyone else. Okay, here you are. Community: Kuching Open Source Community - KuchingOSC. Contact person: me, though I'm not the leader. I can channel to the community though. Website: http://kuchingosc.org That's it. Thanks. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 19:10 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: Dear archayl, OSDC.My was the the organizer and will lead all the OSS community for this. So i hope you understand. What ever OSS related that their have own community was a OSS community. Hope you clear on this and are you one of the leader community if yes please give me your detail so i can put in on OSDC.My database. Thank for your reply. :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:59 PM, archayl arch...@gmail.com wrote: OSDC.my is not in the list? Question: local community - involved? Not related to specific software, but the principle of OSS. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:39 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: Dear all communities, I would like to notes all communities give co-operation with this coming events. I need person contact via email/phone with all leader OSS community. I will list below community that i know was listed. Each person in charge of community i need their idea and what community can involve and contribute to this events. Hope if the community not listed down here please inform me so we know many OSS community In Malaysia. 1) Joomla - 2) Ubuntu - 3) Fedora - 4) Python - 5) Fosschix - 6) PHP - 7) PCBSD - 8) PhpNuke - 9) Debian - 10) Slackware - 12) Ruby - 13) Foss.my - So far only 2 community want to make events. It Joomla Ubuntu. If any community want to do also any xtvt for this events please dont hesitate to contact me to discuss further. Hope all community can give co-operation for this events succesful for this years. This years for us make ourself proud and tell Malaysian we are alive and and we are here!!!. Thanks -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS
ha, being an OSX user and a Linux user, I'll have to throw in my 2 cents worth From the marketing POV, Linux ( other FOSS OS) has a few problem, it is still very much a 'geek' tool. Many noobs still have problems installing Linux and getting it to work properly on their own... (yes the new NVidia drivers help). Altho there has been great strides, the Linux desktop is not quite there yet. Also the many 'wars' (not unfriendly) such as the many distos wars (20+ distros or more? and having more doesn't help), the various Windows Manager (GNOME, KDE, XFCE,...), and even the way different Apps do their UI does lead to confusion for the noobs. Case in point, can you config a Linux box for your mother to use? So Linux has problem attracting new (desktop) users, let alone developers. Don't get me wrong, I like Linux, Google as much as Apple. I use a MacBook (have Xubuntu virtualised on it), a Linux desktop box running Debian, and iPhone, I admin both OSX and Linux servers and am typing this on GMail, but for my desktop and phone I prefer something that just works, without having to spend time frigging around with config files, compilers, make, package managers etc... For servers, yes I do still compile stuff from source, because I want my apps to be just so, but for servers, I do it once and it runs for months and years, and I dont have to bother with it again, unless its a security update. And as a server OS, Linux sometimes win over OSX on some points.. Linux also lacks (or lost it) a cool factor, like what OSX on both desktop and iPhones (and soon iPad) have. Something, I guess you need a commercial vendor to push for Ubuntu comes close, for a consumer Linux, but they have a long way to go before catching up to Apple. And Apple design and builds their own pretty cool HW, which few can beat! Then you have Android, by Google, its OK but again not as polished. I have no doubt that Android is technically capable and in fact it wins over OSX on iPhone for a few things, but I don't see Android phones beating iPhone anywhere in the near future. Google is a very technically capable company, but like someone else commented, Google lacks right brain capabilities! But if I were to develop a end-user app (as opposed to a server based app), I would choose to work on OSX over Android Linux. This is where the cool factor comes in, and I think it'll be more fun. But also there are some technical reasons: I have not programmed in C for a very long time, and between learning Obj-C/Cocoa and C++/Qt, I think the Apple's choice is easier. 2ndly, developing for OSX allows me to deploy my app over 2 platforms, desktop, phone and soon iPad. Also, I'd like to add, OSX is after all a Unix, and Apple is now the largest Unix vendor!. Skills that you learn, especially on the core OS, anything aside from the UI, such as to the networking, memory management, API to devices are easily transferable between OSX and Linus/BSD etc... So any noob learning to program the iPhone is a win for us in the Unix community as opposed to them going over to the dark side of MS/.Net/Windows! Furthermore, if you really follow the stories of the iPhone app developers, its definitely not kids developing those apps. Most of those developers are already programmers, although not on OSX platforms. I remember one of the stories where this guy is a developer for a telco, and he got the iPhone, downloaded the SDK, designed built a game using the motion-sensor, in his free time over a period of 2-3 weeks, launched it on the App store and became a great success, financially as well. (after re-reading the thread, I realise that the issue is attracting 'new' developers, NOT 'young' developers, a slight difference here, but the above pt is still relevant) But when that iPhone developer wants to do something on the server end, like build an aggregator for twitter feeds do analytics, then he/she may very well do so on Linux. Why? well ppl develop on what HW/SW they have or easily get hold of. OS X Server is not easily available, and you have to run it on a Mac, or hack it to run on a Intel box too much trouble for most. And finding hosting is so much easier for Linux. So getting a developer started on OS X is not neccesary a bad thing for the FOSS community. And to correct another point, OSX is a sophisticated product, even the minimal version on the iPhone. And it IS COMPARABLE to Linux. I was doing a bit of hacking on it, on ver1.0 (its now v3.0) before Apple released the SDK, and it is basically a complete Unix running on a mobile device. It runs FTP, SSH, Appleshare etc.. and other services daemons. I even installed a stripped down Apache on it, and it ran! (didn't try mod-php though, but I suspect it'll probably run!). So it seems pretty 'configurable' to me. OSX uses a microkernel architecture, compared to Linux's monolithic kernel, which is considered more advanced. That is what GNU's Hurd kernel is based on which somehow never got
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
hi, Go is the new C-like system programming language developed and OSS by Google. It can be found on google's site somewhere... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: salam good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language. java is on a declining trend. php surprisingly upward trend. and the language yg orang suka kutuk / gelak / mock is at #5. other interesting thing to see is the super star rise of Objective C and Go (? ni language apa pula) and the upward trend of C# AJ -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS
For this reason I still running Windows XP with Cygwin running. It has GCC, Emacs, SVN, LaTeX with BibTeX too . On 4/20/10, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: And you might probably notice, many Unix geeks and even FOSS developers are using Macs, for their normal use... but they still continue developing for Linux/FOSS, simply because all the GNU tools (GCC, make, libtool,...) are all there. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 ___ Owasp-Malaysia mailing list owasp-malay...@lists.owasp.org https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420 -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
Since it does not has any update (hence signatureless?) as well as the perfect score, I want to believe it by myself. Perhaps ppl with 0days in hand can try this one out. Seems that they also create one for UNIX environment. On 4/20/10, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 ___ Owasp-Malaysia mailing list owasp-malay...@lists.owasp.org https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420 -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
ahahaha adoi.. it's sounds like this.. when politicians try to produce a best techni...@itproduct in the world.. while they don't know ins and out of the product itself.. so let the product surface and we do test about their claims.. gosh.. dunno wanna laugh or cry ahahahaha... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 ___ -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
I expecting them to offer bounty challenge... or money back guarantee stuffs. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.comwrote: ahahaha adoi.. it's sounds like this.. when politicians try to produce a best techni...@it product in the world.. while they don't know ins and out of the product itself.. so let the product surface and we do test about their claims.. gosh.. dunno wanna laugh or cry ahahahaha... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 ___ -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
For me it's very simple and easy.. put the vanilla install that software and we do openhack or penetration test for all.. see how the result.. :) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: I expecting them to offer bounty challenge... or money back guarantee stuffs. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: ahahaha adoi.. it's sounds like this.. when politicians try to produce a best techni...@it product in the world.. while they don't know ins and out of the product itself.. so let the product surface and we do test about their claims.. gosh.. dunno wanna laugh or cry ahahahaha... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 ___ -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MySecurity group. To post to this group, send email to mysecur...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mysecurity+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commysecurity%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mysecurity?hl=en. -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community
Holla! So nice damn long list of PMs! Thumbs and toes up! Can I be a part of the organising team, and if I can, what is the benefits? Wish to join this year, although didn't expect the venue gonna be far far away :( Inform me any updates! Thanks, Hafiz =) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, for the Python community, just drop us a mail at pytho...@googlegroups.com and someone will respond... we are a pretty egalitarian bunch, so someone will respond or lead... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: Update Community Leaders 1) Joomla - En. Shaifullnizam 2) Ubuntu - En. Khairul Aizat 3) Fedora - En Syamsul Anuar 4) Python - 5) Fosschix - 6) PHP - En. Amran 7) PCBSD - En. Ahmad Arafat 8) PhpNuke - 9) Debian - 10) Slackware - 12) Ruby - 13) FOSS.MY - 14) SimpleLinux - 15) Kedah OSS - 16) Melaka OSS - 17) Kuching OSS - 18) Sabah OSS - 19) Kelantan OSS - 20) Trengganu OSS - 21- KTNLUG (Kuantan LUG ) - Mr Zamri On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: OSDC.MY is a platform for any OSS community in Malaysia gather in one roof. Otherwise OSS community will scatter around Malaysia and nobody know it. We seek any OSS community to join OSDC.MY and promote all the OSS community to Malaysian that OSS community was exist and they can join any OSS community. :) BTW update KOSC in database. I wil update all the list and person contact each community. Thanks On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, archayl arch...@gmail.com wrote: LoL. Shame on me ;). Just thought that it'd be nice if OSDC.my is along the same level with everyone else. Okay, here you are. Community: Kuching Open Source Community - KuchingOSC. Contact person: me, though I'm not the leader. I can channel to the community though. Website: http://kuchingosc.org That's it. Thanks. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 19:10 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: Dear archayl, OSDC.My was the the organizer and will lead all the OSS community for this. So i hope you understand. What ever OSS related that their have own community was a OSS community. Hope you clear on this and are you one of the leader community if yes please give me your detail so i can put in on OSDC.My database. Thank for your reply. :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:59 PM, archayl arch...@gmail.com wrote: OSDC.my is not in the list? Question: local community - involved? Not related to specific software, but the principle of OSS. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:39 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: Dear all communities, I would like to notes all communities give co-operation with this coming events. I need person contact via email/phone with all leader OSS community. I will list below community that i know was listed. Each person in charge of community i need their idea and what community can involve and contribute to this events. Hope if the community not listed down here please inform me so we know many OSS community In Malaysia. 1) Joomla - 2) Ubuntu - 3) Fedora - 4) Python - 5) Fosschix - 6) PHP - 7) PCBSD - 8) PhpNuke - 9) Debian - 10) Slackware - 12) Ruby - 13) Foss.my - So far only 2 community want to make events. It Joomla Ubuntu. If any community want to do also any xtvt for this events please dont hesitate to contact me to discuss further. Hope all community can give co-operation for this events succesful for this years. This years for us make ourself proud and tell Malaysian we are alive and and we are here!!!. Thanks -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Adnan bin Mohd Shukor adnan.shu...@gmail.com wrote: they do have it for Unix platform (according to the sale person) how they detect is by so called scoring via 1) heuristic 2) sandboxing Scored on both. The thing is, their heuristic engine needs to be highly intelligent since this is pretty much what all AV companies spend millions in RnD to improve. Question is, have they managed to actually hit it with this one ? Somehow, I remain sceptical until it is thoroughly tested. P.S. We might want to consider not sending this to OWASP since this does not technically involve Web Application. While I admit its a great piece of information to share, we don't want the list to end up being a all rounded security list per say. OWASP is pretty niche. owh ya, they have an office in Ampang.. kot kot ada yang berminat nak consult them :) On 20 April 2010 15:16, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Since it does not has any update (hence signatureless?) as well as the perfect score, I want to believe it by myself. Perhaps ppl with 0days in hand can try this one out. Seems that they also create one for UNIX environment. On 4/20/10, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 ___ Owasp-Malaysia mailing list owasp-malay...@lists.owasp.org https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420 -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MySecurity group. To post to this group, send email to mysecur...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mysecurity+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commysecurity%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mysecurity?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MySecurity group. To post to this group, send email to mysecur...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mysecurity+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commysecurity%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mysecurity?hl=en. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
If there is a pattern, means there are rules/signatures. dealing with polymorphic, metamorphic stuffs .. i wonder... On 4/20/10, BRIAN RITCHIE esqbrianritc...@gmail.com wrote: --snipped a) ensuring that the program is intelligent enough to mature its own code through variants and pattern detection -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
[osdcmy-public] Re: [MySEC] Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
Uiks.. ampang belah mana tu dekat je tu. boleh berguru dengan depa. On 4/20/10, Adnan bin Mohd Shukor adnan.shu...@gmail.com wrote: they do have it for Unix platform (according to the sale person) how they detect is by so called scoring via 1) heuristic 2) sandboxing owh ya, they have an office in Ampang.. kot kot ada yang berminat nak consult them :) On 20 April 2010 15:16, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Since it does not has any update (hence signatureless?) as well as the perfect score, I want to believe it by myself. Perhaps ppl with 0days in hand can try this one out. Seems that they also create one for UNIX environment. On 4/20/10, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: No comment it. I think the person who are have authorities to comment was En. Arafat.. he know better this AV. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1%5C Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 ___ Owasp-Malaysia mailing list owasp-malay...@lists.owasp.org https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420 -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MySecurity group. To post to this group, send email to mysecur...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mysecurity+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mysecurity?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MySecurity group. To post to this group, send email to mysecur...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mysecurity+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mysecurity?hl=en. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community
Just put in wiki somewhere if not wikipedia.org :) Simply kopipes the URL later On 4/20/10, Muhammad Hafiz hidzir.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Holla! So nice damn long list of PMs! Thumbs and toes up! Can I be a part of the organising team, and if I can, what is the benefits? Wish to join this year, although didn't expect the venue gonna be far far away :( Inform me any updates! Thanks, Hafiz =) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, for the Python community, just drop us a mail at pytho...@googlegroups.com and someone will respond... we are a pretty egalitarian bunch, so someone will respond or lead... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: Update Community Leaders 1) Joomla - En. Shaifullnizam 2) Ubuntu - En. Khairul Aizat 3) Fedora - En Syamsul Anuar 4) Python - 5) Fosschix - 6) PHP - En. Amran 7) PCBSD - En. Ahmad Arafat 8) PhpNuke - 9) Debian - 10) Slackware - 12) Ruby - 13) FOSS.MY - 14) SimpleLinux - 15) Kedah OSS - 16) Melaka OSS - 17) Kuching OSS - 18) Sabah OSS - 19) Kelantan OSS - 20) Trengganu OSS - 21- KTNLUG (Kuantan LUG ) - Mr Zamri On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: OSDC.MY is a platform for any OSS community in Malaysia gather in one roof. Otherwise OSS community will scatter around Malaysia and nobody know it. We seek any OSS community to join OSDC.MY and promote all the OSS community to Malaysian that OSS community was exist and they can join any OSS community. :) BTW update KOSC in database. I wil update all the list and person contact each community. Thanks On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, archayl arch...@gmail.com wrote: LoL. Shame on me ;). Just thought that it'd be nice if OSDC.my is along the same level with everyone else. Okay, here you are. Community: Kuching Open Source Community - KuchingOSC. Contact person: me, though I'm not the leader. I can channel to the community though. Website: http://kuchingosc.org That's it. Thanks. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 19:10 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: Dear archayl, OSDC.My was the the organizer and will lead all the OSS community for this. So i hope you understand. What ever OSS related that their have own community was a OSS community. Hope you clear on this and are you one of the leader community if yes please give me your detail so i can put in on OSDC.My database. Thank for your reply. :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:59 PM, archayl arch...@gmail.com wrote: OSDC.my is not in the list? Question: local community - involved? Not related to specific software, but the principle of OSS. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:39 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: Dear all communities, I would like to notes all communities give co-operation with this coming events. I need person contact via email/phone with all leader OSS community. I will list below community that i know was listed. Each person in charge of community i need their idea and what community can involve and contribute to this events. Hope if the community not listed down here please inform me so we know many OSS community In Malaysia. 1) Joomla - 2) Ubuntu - 3) Fedora - 4) Python - 5) Fosschix - 6) PHP - 7) PCBSD - 8) PhpNuke - 9) Debian - 10) Slackware - 12) Ruby - 13) Foss.my - So far only 2 community want to make events. It Joomla Ubuntu. If any community want to do also any xtvt for this events please dont hesitate to contact me to discuss further. Hope all community can give co-operation for this events succesful for this years. This years for us make ourself proud and tell Malaysian we are alive and and we are here!!!. Thanks -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [osdcmy-public] osdcmywiki needs more writers and contributors!!!
Just asking, what's wrong with the other one. osdcmy.pbworks.com. There's one, why is there a need to create anew? Nothing personal. Just asking about the significance of this. Please clarify, thanks. On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 18:25 +0800, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote: we need more writers and contributors.. join us!! http://osdcmywiki.pbworks.com -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
Java and PHP are made from C obviously. C can survive independently because it's C. There is no PHP or Java without C. So don't get too excited if TIOBE index indicates C is the most used programming language. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Go is the new C-like system programming language developed and OSS by Google. It can be found on google's site somewhere... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: salam good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language. java is on a declining trend. php surprisingly upward trend. and the language yg orang suka kutuk / gelak / mock is at #5. other interesting thing to see is the super star rise of Objective C and Go (? ni language apa pula) and the upward trend of C# AJ -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
Salam n good day all I don't think anyone here is excited that C is currently the most used language. Its just a point that in this day n age non-oo languages like C is still doing strong. Yet a lot of colleges no longer stress C as a fundamental language to learn. Why is that? That was the point I wanted to share when posting the data. I have met people in the industry who believe C is a dead language n java is the way to go. Also on this lists there were discussions on how PHP is a poor language. And yet it is still strong. Time n time again it is shown that technical superiority has never been a good measure of how things will be accepted. Even VB is there n that language is the being mocked front, left and center by people who feel their programming language is more superior since they code in anything but VB. Data is there to be interperted n learned from. Maybe from the last 5 years pattern we can see what should b taught in schools to better prepare our replacements. Selamat PS: Raja I've been bit busy with closing of projects coming. Insyaallah I will see you soon during oscon. Aj -Original Message- From: Hasan Abu Bakar ha...@kelate.com.my Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:04:46 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C Java and PHP are made from C obviously. C can survive independently because it's C. There is no PHP or Java without C. So don't get too excited if TIOBE index indicates C is the most used programming language. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Go is the new C-like system programming language developed and OSS by Google. It can be found on google's site somewhere... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: salam good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language. java is on a declining trend. php surprisingly upward trend. and the language yg orang suka kutuk / gelak / mock is at #5. other interesting thing to see is the super star rise of Objective C and Go (? ni language apa pula) and the upward trend of C# AJ -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] No update AV with 100% detection rate: IKONA
try and download it and you will see why some things are too good to be true ;-) Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi wrote: Hello, Anyone buy this home-brewed AV? http://www.ikonasoftware.com/?page=12parent=1\ Seems F-Secure, TrendMicro etc to be out of business 0_0 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community
OK will do. OSCC MAMPU also monitoring this thread. They are going to have a workshop between community and OSCC MAMPU early Jun. This contact information will help them to send invitation letter. Thank you. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Just put in wiki somewhere if not wikipedia.org :) Simply kopipes the URL later On 4/20/10, Muhammad Hafiz hidzir.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Holla! So nice damn long list of PMs! Thumbs and toes up! Can I be a part of the organising team, and if I can, what is the benefits? Wish to join this year, although didn't expect the venue gonna be far far away :( Inform me any updates! Thanks, Hafiz =) -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community
For others community not listed to OSDC.My please do so. We need co-operation with others Team Leader if any events, seminar or conference related to OSS we will update to all team leader. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: OK will do. OSCC MAMPU also monitoring this thread. They are going to have a workshop between community and OSCC MAMPU early Jun. This contact information will help them to send invitation letter. Thank you. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi najmi.zab...@gmail.com wrote: Just put in wiki somewhere if not wikipedia.org :) Simply kopipes the URL later On 4/20/10, Muhammad Hafiz hidzir.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Holla! So nice damn long list of PMs! Thumbs and toes up! Can I be a part of the organising team, and if I can, what is the benefits? Wish to join this year, although didn't expect the venue gonna be far far away :( Inform me any updates! Thanks, Hafiz =) -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
C is the mother of all languages Java is its father. On 4/20/10 8:33 PM, A Johan wrote: Salam n good day all I don't think anyone here is excited that C is currently the most used language. Its just a point that in this day n age non-oo languages like C is still doing strong. Yet a lot of colleges no longer stress C as a fundamental language to learn. Why is that? That was the point I wanted to share when posting the data. I have met people in the industry who believe C is a dead language n java is the way to go. Also on this lists there were discussions on how PHP is a poor language. And yet it is still strong. Time n time again it is shown that technical superiority has never been a good measure of how things will be accepted. Even VB is there n that language is the being mocked front, left and center by people who feel their programming language is more superior since they code in anything but VB. Data is there to be interperted n learned from. Maybe from the last 5 years pattern we can see what should b taught in schools to better prepare our replacements. Selamat -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:56 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: C is the mother of all languages Java is its father. I guest because the marriage of these 2, all sort of crazy programming language were born! -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in Bahasa Version with Bahasa User Manual. that's great! apa kata pihak penganjur? On 4/21/10 9:20 AM, Akmal Jaafar wrote: Panjang nya reply bang. Aku tgk kau one of the distinguished speaker in MOSC2010. ok la tuh :) On 4/21/2010 7:37 AM, red1 wrote: Dear MS :) Tafsir pantun dan jawapan menyusul.. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
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bapak2 ibu2. minta bersabar ... team call for papers baru bermula untuk speakers bagi mosc. krimnet pun ada sikit present untuk adempiere sneakpeek : http://software.krimnet.com/adempiere/adempiere-language-pack-installation-malay.htm On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in Bahasa Version with Bahasa User Manual. that's great! apa kata pihak penganjur? On 4/21/10 9:20 AM, Akmal Jaafar wrote: Panjang nya reply bang. Aku tgk kau one of the distinguished speaker in MOSC2010. ok la tuh :) On 4/21/2010 7:37 AM, red1 wrote: Dear MS :) Tafsir pantun dan jawapan menyusul.. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
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Kepada semua bawak bertendang! CFP team sudah pun release announcement untuk Speakers. http://conf.oss.my/cfp.html Mana2 speaker yang berminat untuk membentangkan hasil kerja mereka dipersilakan untuk mendaftar dan tahun ini kita akan tumpukan kepada speaker dalam negara. Untuk Speaker luar negara untuk specific topic. Thanks On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: bapak2 ibu2. minta bersabar ... team call for papers baru bermula untuk speakers bagi mosc. krimnet pun ada sikit present untuk adempiere sneakpeek : http://software.krimnet.com/adempiere/adempiere-language-pack-installation-malay.htm On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in Bahasa Version with Bahasa User Manual. that's great! apa kata pihak penganjur? On 4/21/10 9:20 AM, Akmal Jaafar wrote: Panjang nya reply bang. Aku tgk kau one of the distinguished speaker in MOSC2010. ok la tuh :) On 4/21/2010 7:37 AM, red1 wrote: Dear MS :) Tafsir pantun dan jawapan menyusul.. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
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boleh tau sapa yg dah submit topics and proposed topics hehe... dulu2 ada keluar rasenye kat laman depan, tapi tak ingat conf mana On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: Kepada semua bawak bertendang! CFP team sudah pun release announcement untuk Speakers. http://conf.oss.my/cfp.html Mana2 speaker yang berminat untuk membentangkan hasil kerja mereka dipersilakan untuk mendaftar dan tahun ini kita akan tumpukan kepada speaker dalam negara. Untuk Speaker luar negara untuk specific topic. Thanks On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: bapak2 ibu2. minta bersabar ... team call for papers baru bermula untuk speakers bagi mosc. krimnet pun ada sikit present untuk adempiere sneakpeek : http://software.krimnet.com/adempiere/adempiere-language-pack-installation-malay.htm On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in Bahasa Version with Bahasa User Manual. that's great! apa kata pihak penganjur? On 4/21/10 9:20 AM, Akmal Jaafar wrote: Panjang nya reply bang. Aku tgk kau one of the distinguished speaker in MOSC2010. ok la tuh :) On 4/21/2010 7:37 AM, red1 wrote: Dear MS :) Tafsir pantun dan jawapan menyusul.. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
hmmm... main site joomla : http://conf.oss.my/ cfp page drupal : http://conf.oss.my/cfp.html cepat2... ada 12 slot aje ;-) lagi 6 slot dah reserve untuk the 3 bof events. kalau ada permintaan hangat boleh kami buka lagi tambah slot. kalau ada yg nak buat 2 hour hands-on tutorial, sila email terus pada mfazliaz...@gmail.com competitions pun ada. 1 competition dah ada sponsor. lagi 2 competition require sponsors. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: Kepada semua bawak bertendang! CFP team sudah pun release announcement untuk Speakers. http://conf.oss.my/cfp.html Mana2 speaker yang berminat untuk membentangkan hasil kerja mereka dipersilakan untuk mendaftar dan tahun ini kita akan tumpukan kepada speaker dalam negara. Untuk Speaker luar negara untuk specific topic. Thanks On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: bapak2 ibu2. minta bersabar ... team call for papers baru bermula untuk speakers bagi mosc. krimnet pun ada sikit present untuk adempiere sneakpeek : http://software.krimnet.com/adempiere/adempiere-language-pack-installation-malay.htm On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in Bahasa Version with Bahasa User Manual. that's great! apa kata pihak penganjur? On 4/21/10 9:20 AM, Akmal Jaafar wrote: Panjang nya reply bang. Aku tgk kau one of the distinguished speaker in MOSC2010. ok la tuh :) On 4/21/2010 7:37 AM, red1 wrote: Dear MS :) Tafsir pantun dan jawapan menyusul.. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: It is an honour to know that i am put as such. But I am not able to perform cos we got nothing to show along the theme of 'asyik orang lain punya barang'. Unless MOSC2010 wants to see sendiri punya barang i can showcase ADempiere in Bahasa Version with Bahasa User Manual. menarik..nanti selesai kerja2 core saya akan fowardkan perkara ni.. On 4/21/10 9:20 AM, Akmal Jaafar wrote: Panjang nya reply bang. Aku tgk kau one of the distinguished speaker in MOSC2010. ok la tuh :) On 4/21/2010 7:37 AM, red1 wrote: Dear MS :) Tafsir pantun dan jawapan menyusul.. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
