Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Adzmely Mansor
just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu is adopting
adempiere, some customizing is on going..

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir that
 rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today we do
 not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we can
 brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not
 rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces
 and my goat and say Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can  it will attract
 more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat
 berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia.
 Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well.

 I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity that
 ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry out as
 they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices.
 Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections.
 If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)


 On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:

 What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
 It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
 When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.

 when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
 such is a sad state of .my now


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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
sabasun ke ?



On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com wrote:

 just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu is adopting
 adempiere, some customizing is on going..


 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir
 that rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today
 we do not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we
 can brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not
 rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces
 and my goat and say Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can  it will attract
 more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat
 berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia.
 Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well.

 I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity
 that ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry
 out as they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices.
 Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections.
 If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)


 On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:

 What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
 It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
 When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.

 when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
 such is a sad state of .my now


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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik CL Chow
Song that depicted our situation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3M8Sk7X51kfeature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3M8Sk7X51kfeature=related
Regards,
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OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/;




On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
rajaiskand...@gmail.comwrote:

 i pity ritz and rafe

 at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer when
 their boss asks give away software for free ! humph ! how to generate the
 industry like that ?

 unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these foreign
 companies. that's what you get when you have an mba as a ceo. oopppsss...
 he's doesn't have a postgraduate qualification. he's just a former computer
 salesman. i wonder how much export sales did he make in his previous
 employment ?

 //reminds me of george orwell's animal farm !








 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir
 that rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today
 we do not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we
 can brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not
 rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces
 and my goat and say Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can  it will attract
 more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat
 berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia.
 Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well.

 I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity
 that ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry
 out as they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices.
 Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections.
 If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :)


 On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:

 What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability
 It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that.
 When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily.

 when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what.
 such is a sad state of .my now


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[osdcmy-public] Android running on iPhone!

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html

Everybody especially with iphone 3g/3gs please contribute your finding
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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik red1

On 5/2/10 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

i pity ritz and rafe

at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer 
when their boss asks give away software for free ! humph ! how to 
generate the industry like that ?


Giving away for free does make money. Look at Hotmail, Yahoo!, FaceBook. 
Even Microsoft uses it. They gave away IE for free to kill Netscape. 
Protecting marketspace is business. Malaysia has to protect itself. It 
will die soon in terms of competitiveness and bargaining power. South 
Korea got Samsung. Malaysia got almost nothing on the table.


unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these 
foreign companies. that's what you get when you have an mba as a ceo. 
oopppsss... he's doesn't have a postgraduate qualification. he's just 
a former computer salesman. i wonder how much export sales did he make 
in his previous employment ?
Playing golf if close business deals is ok. But getting the Pau Lady is 
not really business. It is digital divide issue. Wrong spot. Should be 
under Kementerian Luar Bandar. Don't worry. Felda has lubang golf also. 
MDec's boss can go play there.


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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik sweemeng ng
Probably the reason why IT in malaysia, is in lowyat plaza
.
we don't get selling services


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:18 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 On 5/2/10 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

 i pity ritz and rafe

 at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer when
 their boss asks give away software for free ! humph ! how to generate the
 industry like that ?

  Giving away for free does make money. Look at Hotmail, Yahoo!, FaceBook.
 Even Microsoft uses it. They gave away IE for free to kill Netscape.
 Protecting marketspace is business. Malaysia has to protect itself. It will
 die soon in terms of competitiveness and bargaining power. South Korea got
 Samsung. Malaysia got almost nothing on the table.


  unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these foreign
 companies. that's what you get when you have an mba as a ceo. oopppsss...
 he's doesn't have a postgraduate qualification. he's just a former computer
 salesman. i wonder how much export sales did he make in his previous
 employment ?

 Playing golf if close business deals is ok. But getting the Pau Lady is not
 really business. It is digital divide issue. Wrong spot. Should be under
 Kementerian Luar Bandar. Don't worry. Felda has lubang golf also. MDec's
 boss can go play there.


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Re: [osdcmy-public] Android running on iPhone!

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik mohd fenris
Cool n nice info . Thanks dude

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik r4aviva

Giving away free only makes money when (either one of the following) :-

1. you already have another business that is not giving free
2. its ads related
3. it cost you nothing to give away but u might get something in return
4. you plan someone would buy over for reasons related to (1,2)
5. you are just an individual and ur hoping for (3,4)

hotmail, yahoo, facebook  = combination of 1 + 2
IE kill netscape = 1, resulting in netscape became kaput hence firefox

Unless you have the criteria above, giving away free gets u nothing. If 
IronMan2 decides to give aways its digital rights and free before 
getting its  ROI, you

won't see IronMan3.





red1 wrote:

On 5/2/10 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

i pity ritz and rafe

at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer 
when their boss asks give away software for free ! humph ! how to 
generate the industry like that ?


Giving away for free does make money. Look at Hotmail, Yahoo!, 
FaceBook. Even Microsoft uses it. They gave away IE for free to kill 
Netscape. Protecting marketspace is business. Malaysia has to protect 
itself. It will die soon in terms of competitiveness and bargaining 
power. South Korea got Samsung. Malaysia got almost nothing on the table.


unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these 
foreign companies. that's what you get when you have an mba as a ceo. 
oopppsss... he's doesn't have a postgraduate qualification. he's just 
a former computer salesman. i wonder how much export sales did he 
make in his previous employment ?
Playing golf if close business deals is ok. But getting the Pau Lady 
is not really business. It is digital divide issue. Wrong spot. Should 
be under Kementerian Luar Bandar. Don't worry. Felda has lubang golf 
also. MDec's boss can go play there.





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Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik r4aviva

We got Petronas!

Just need to convert that into a Malaysia samsung or hyundai.

Actually just practice more friendly and open business invitations, 
Malaysia's anti-earthquake, cheap labor and big lands (sg = hahaha) and 
the none existence of
red and yellow t-shirts will ensure Malaysia a top choice for foreign 
investment for many years until everyone in this list is expired.





r4aviva wrote:

Giving away free only makes money when (either one of the following) :-

1. you already have another business that is not giving free
2. its ads related
3. it cost you nothing to give away but u might get something in return
4. you plan someone would buy over for reasons related to (1,2)
5. you are just an individual and ur hoping for (3,4)

hotmail, yahoo, facebook  = combination of 1 + 2
IE kill netscape = 1, resulting in netscape became kaput hence firefox

Unless you have the criteria above, giving away free gets u nothing. 
If IronMan2 decides to give aways its digital rights and free before 
getting its  ROI, you

won't see IronMan3.





red1 wrote:

On 5/2/10 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

i pity ritz and rafe

at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer 
when their boss asks give away software for free ! humph ! how to 
generate the industry like that ?


Giving away for free does make money. Look at Hotmail, Yahoo!, 
FaceBook. Even Microsoft uses it. They gave away IE for free to kill 
Netscape. Protecting marketspace is business. Malaysia has to protect 
itself. It will die soon in terms of competitiveness and bargaining 
power. South Korea got Samsung. Malaysia got almost nothing on the 
table.


unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these 
foreign companies. that's what you get when you have an mba as a 
ceo. oopppsss... he's doesn't have a postgraduate qualification. 
he's just a former computer salesman. i wonder how much export sales 
did he make in his previous employment ?
Playing golf if close business deals is ok. But getting the Pau Lady 
is not really business. It is digital divide issue. Wrong spot. 
Should be under Kementerian Luar Bandar. Don't worry. Felda has 
lubang golf also. MDec's boss can go play there.








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Re: [osdcmy-public] Android running on iPhone!

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
android on china blueberry ?



On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, mohd fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cool n nice info . Thanks dude

 Sent from my iPhone

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  Everybody especially with iphone 3g/3gs please contribute your finding
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  http://www.idroidproject.org/forum/
  much appreciate it. Let's hack!
 
 
 
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Android running on iPhone!

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Sumardi Shukor
it works on iphone 3g. but i can't get it to work on ipod touch 1g.

good resource for multitouch:
http://lembacon.com/2010/04/22/obtain-multitouch-firmware/


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote:

 it's possible, iphone is made in china.
 iphone == blueberry
 how about iphoneOS on blueberry?
 or blueberryOS on iphone? :)


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 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
 rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:
  android on china blueberry ?
 
 
 
  On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, mohd fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Cool n nice info . Thanks dude
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On May 2, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  
  
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Android running on iPhone!

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
my iphone's usb cable putus dua. anybody know where to get a cheap
iphone data cable? :(



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On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Sumardi Shukor smd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 it works on iphone 3g. but i can't get it to work on ipod touch 1g.
 good resource for multitouch:
 http://lembacon.com/2010/04/22/obtain-multitouch-firmware/

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 it's possible, iphone is made in china.
 iphone == blueberry
 how about iphoneOS on blueberry?
 or blueberryOS on iphone? :)


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  android on china blueberry ?
 
 
 
  On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, mohd fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com
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  Cool n nice info . Thanks dude
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
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   http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html
  
   Everybody especially with iphone 3g/3gs please contribute your
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Android running on iPhone!

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Hasan Abu Bakar
entah le..aku tak ingat pulak kalau gigit..tapi putus dekat
connector.ada 4 wayar halus je kat situ. patut la senang putus.


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 bizkut, ganasnya ko gigit ker usb cable tu? :-P

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 my iphone's usb cable putus dua. anybody know where to get a cheap
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[osdcmy-public] exporting to ical

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik nuhaa
salam / hola!

anyone has any guide/advise on exporting calendars to ical format? i have a
set of events in database, need to export those to ical. and when there's
new event added, that ical shud be updated as well

i'm using php btw

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Re: [osdcmy-public] exporting to ical

2010-05-02 Terurut Topik Ahmad Amran


http://www.kigkonsult.se/iCalcreator/

Agak2 ni boleh kot.


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salam / hola!

anyone has any guide/advise on exporting calendars to ical format? i  
have a set of events in database, need to export those to ical. and  
when there's new event added, that ical shud be updated as well


i'm using php btw

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