Re: [osdcmy] Calling Python i mean Mac guru
Red1: grammar and spelling mistake: ça va : two words not single Et al : sound french but it s latin je vous presente : the 'e' missing in 'presenter' conjugation - first person au revoir : rather than au voir hehehe, just to cheer up my morning ... :P ** On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:08 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Ah! Azrul! Cava bien. Et al, Je vous present http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2011/05/idempiere-adempiere-on-osgi.html Au voir! On 5/10/11 9:51 PM, Azrul MADISA wrote: Or u can virtualize the whole thing On May 9, 2011 4:49 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: On 5/9/11 9:27 PM, red1 wrote: This is probably up Boh's alley. I just upgraded my MacBook to 10... solved it. some tools.jar difference handling that is solved by selecting the right OS.. in my case just click on Mac (!). -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Mintak pandangan Projek OSS
bagi saya untuk perubahan sebegini, technicality adalah perkara kedua, change management plan mesti diatur dengan baik dan strategi yang jauh kehadapan. Sila baca mengenai kerts kerja yang haris email kepada list mengenai bagaimana satu organisasi yang berubah dari OSS kepada Windows/dll. Dan kebanyakkan stress bagi engineer/technical people adalah handling people, bukan berkaitan sangat mengenai technicality. just my opinion as orang tua... Allahualam, Regards. 2011/4/10 saiful akusai...@gmail.com e1 mungkin boleh menambah untuk technician itu, kalau perempuan sudah berkahwin atau belum? just joke untuk hilangkan tensen :) jangan marah e1 2011/4/10 Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Salam tuan Boleh bagi senario disana, mungkin dpt membantu pakar2 disini memberi pendapat yang bernas supaya mengelakkan tuan dr tertekan Sbg contoh, - berapa ramai student - yg guna lab berapa kursus? Avg no#? - berapa ramai staf - ada IT department kah - berapa ramai peg IT? Tahap kecekapan - fasiliti sedia ada? - ada DC ker? - how many server? Running what? - berapa lab yg ada? - perisian yg kerap digunakan - spesifikasi lab - lab technician ada kah? Pompuan atau Lelaki .. Mungkin ada tambahan info lg yg diperlukan supaya senang bagi pakar2 didalam mailing list utk membantu tuan .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -Original Message- From: darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:20:20 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Mintak pandangan Projek OSS lutfi:terbaek.kerjasama yg macam mane?skrng nie ak tengah tension jer.ada je yang nak kondem2.haih. 2011/4/10 lutfi raffi lutfira...@gmail.com: darx... mungkin kita boleh bekerjasama untuk kajian yang saya sedang lakukan... 2011/4/10 Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com idea nya ialah untuk tackle hati/perasaan manusia yang terlibat secara langsung atau tidak langsung, supaya mereka memahami mengenai kerperluan technological shift tersebut, dan kelebihan/pulangan yang akan di hasilkan terhadap organisasi dan diri mereka sendiri daripada perkara tersebut. Untuk mengelakkan bantahan secara direct/indirect, kurangan produktiviti disebabkan retaliate dan perubahan tersebut, dll. Sebagaimana kita yang menggunakan tools/os/dll sumber terbuka, walaupun ada kengkangan, bila hati dah suka, dan faham apa untungnya untuk saya dan organisasi saya, kengkangan tersebut bukanlah satu permasalahan. lebih lanjut daripada wiki : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_management Allahualam 2011/4/10 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com adzmely:hukhuk.sorry.nanti ubah balik ayat.ni sebab xsempat tdi.hahaha.boelh crite x macam mane Change Management tu?kurang faham skit. 2011/4/10 Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com: Assalaamualaikum, One important thing in this kind of project, CHANGE MANAGEMENT, dan ini kena bermula dari awal lagi. Allahualam PS: boleh tak tulis email yang sebegini tanpa sebarang sms style short words. bukan apa orang tua macam saya ni lambat sikit nak baca/compute. 2011/4/10 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com red1:masa estimated lam 3-6 bln.proof of concept rasenye xperlu sgt,sbb bos sndir bgi arahn suh siapkn project ni.just kene wat proper ngn step2 dier.tu yg pening.hahha 2011/4/10 red1 r...@red1.org: Berapa lama pulak tempoh untuk mencapai matlamat tersebut? Mungkin lama waktu dan tenaga yang diperlukan. Sekiranya terhad sumber atau tempoh yang diberikan, saya cadangkan buat satu POC (proof of concept) yang membuat perbandingan antara FOSS dan Windows versions lalu buktikan yang mana lebih cekap, mudah dan murah. Lepas itu persembahkan hasil kajian serta data benchmarking tersendiri kepada persidangan dimana jua dalam dunia. Boleh dapat doctorate kot satu hari nanti. Tambah $$$ dan makin ramai pengikut saudara nanti. Pemangkin yang diperlukan hari ini dalam FOSS tempatan ialah menambahkan icon. Just my dua sen. On 4/10/11 9:58 AM, darXness darXness wrote: luper lak...nak eliminate windows lam Institut nie.nak start gune OSS sume.sng cite,xnak gune yg license2 berbayar dah.=D 2011/4/10 red1r...@red1.org: Apa matlamat projek hang? On 4/10/11 9:25 AM, darXness darXness wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http
Re: [osdcmy] Mintak pandangan Projek OSS
Assalaamualaikum, One important thing in this kind of project, CHANGE MANAGEMENT, dan ini kena bermula dari awal lagi. Allahualam PS: boleh tak tulis email yang sebegini tanpa sebarang sms style short words. bukan apa orang tua macam saya ni lambat sikit nak baca/compute. 2011/4/10 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com red1:masa estimated lam 3-6 bln.proof of concept rasenye xperlu sgt,sbb bos sndir bgi arahn suh siapkn project ni.just kene wat proper ngn step2 dier.tu yg pening.hahha 2011/4/10 red1 r...@red1.org: Berapa lama pulak tempoh untuk mencapai matlamat tersebut? Mungkin lama waktu dan tenaga yang diperlukan. Sekiranya terhad sumber atau tempoh yang diberikan, saya cadangkan buat satu POC (proof of concept) yang membuat perbandingan antara FOSS dan Windows versions lalu buktikan yang mana lebih cekap, mudah dan murah. Lepas itu persembahkan hasil kajian serta data benchmarking tersendiri kepada persidangan dimana jua dalam dunia. Boleh dapat doctorate kot satu hari nanti. Tambah $$$ dan makin ramai pengikut saudara nanti. Pemangkin yang diperlukan hari ini dalam FOSS tempatan ialah menambahkan icon. Just my dua sen. On 4/10/11 9:58 AM, darXness darXness wrote: luper lak...nak eliminate windows lam Institut nie.nak start gune OSS sume.sng cite,xnak gune yg license2 berbayar dah.=D 2011/4/10 red1r...@red1.org: Apa matlamat projek hang? On 4/10/11 9:25 AM, darXness darXness wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Mintak pandangan Projek OSS
idea nya ialah untuk tackle hati/perasaan manusia yang terlibat secara langsung atau tidak langsung, supaya mereka memahami mengenai kerperluan technological shift tersebut, dan kelebihan/pulangan yang akan di hasilkan terhadap organisasi dan diri mereka sendiri daripada perkara tersebut. Untuk mengelakkan bantahan secara direct/indirect, kurangan produktiviti disebabkan retaliate dan perubahan tersebut, dll. Sebagaimana kita yang menggunakan tools/os/dll sumber terbuka, walaupun ada kengkangan, bila hati dah suka, dan faham apa untungnya untuk saya dan organisasi saya, kengkangan tersebut bukanlah satu permasalahan. lebih lanjut daripada wiki : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_management Allahualam 2011/4/10 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com adzmely:hukhuk.sorry.nanti ubah balik ayat.ni sebab xsempat tdi.hahaha.boelh crite x macam mane Change Management tu?kurang faham skit. 2011/4/10 Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com: Assalaamualaikum, One important thing in this kind of project, CHANGE MANAGEMENT, dan ini kena bermula dari awal lagi. Allahualam PS: boleh tak tulis email yang sebegini tanpa sebarang sms style short words. bukan apa orang tua macam saya ni lambat sikit nak baca/compute. 2011/4/10 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com red1:masa estimated lam 3-6 bln.proof of concept rasenye xperlu sgt,sbb bos sndir bgi arahn suh siapkn project ni.just kene wat proper ngn step2 dier.tu yg pening.hahha 2011/4/10 red1 r...@red1.org: Berapa lama pulak tempoh untuk mencapai matlamat tersebut? Mungkin lama waktu dan tenaga yang diperlukan. Sekiranya terhad sumber atau tempoh yang diberikan, saya cadangkan buat satu POC (proof of concept) yang membuat perbandingan antara FOSS dan Windows versions lalu buktikan yang mana lebih cekap, mudah dan murah. Lepas itu persembahkan hasil kajian serta data benchmarking tersendiri kepada persidangan dimana jua dalam dunia. Boleh dapat doctorate kot satu hari nanti. Tambah $$$ dan makin ramai pengikut saudara nanti. Pemangkin yang diperlukan hari ini dalam FOSS tempatan ialah menambahkan icon. Just my dua sen. On 4/10/11 9:58 AM, darXness darXness wrote: luper lak...nak eliminate windows lam Institut nie.nak start gune OSS sume.sng cite,xnak gune yg license2 berbayar dah.=D 2011/4/10 red1r...@red1.org: Apa matlamat projek hang? On 4/10/11 9:25 AM, darXness darXness wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy-public] Shared hosting done right
Saya adalah pengguna django dalam 3 tahun, dan PHP lebih dari 8 tahun, dan Linux lebih dari 13 tahun. Apa yang dikatakan ialah, saya lebih suka buat semua nya sendiri, manage sendiri, configure sendiri dan untuk saya, itu adalah fun factor, dan ini adalah keseronakan yang ada dalam open source. lalalala... :P - adzmely http://blog.xjutsu.com 2010/10/14 Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.net 2010/10/14 CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com: guna amazon s3 atau gae :) Saya memang sentiasa mengikut perkembangan gae. Ia betul2 'hide the complexity of hosting' daripada end user. Cuma single line command utk push app ke live. Cuma masalah sekarang sokongan utk relational database. Saya tertunggu untuk itu (khabarnya hujung tahun ini). Walaupun cuma utk Enterprise saya masih mengharapkan harga yang ditawarkan berpatutan. Saya masih belum berpeluang mencuba amazon s3. Kali terakhir saya check, harganya langsung tidak sesuai walaupun sekadar utk mencuba. Bagaimana dengan latency s3 dari Malaysia ? Sebab ini adalah faktor utama saya terpaksa mencari hosting tempatan. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Shared hosting done right
our own server, and for my freelance work currently vps 2010/10/14 Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.net 2010/10/14 Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com: Saya adalah pengguna django dalam 3 tahun, dan PHP lebih dari 8 tahun, dan Linux lebih dari 13 tahun. Apa yang dikatakan ialah, saya lebih suka buat semua nya sendiri, manage sendiri, configure sendiri dan untuk saya, itu adalah fun factor, dan ini adalah keseronakan yang ada dalam open source. lalalala... :P Jumpa juga dengan pengguna django ;) Jadi bagaimana saudara host application django tersebut ? Shared hosting ? VPS ? (local) Atau client ada server sendiri ? -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Shared hosting done right
rasa nak mencelah :P i think bazet the problem is your org seems like they never learn anything... 2010/10/14 Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com Kenapa kurang developers ? 1. ruby nampak macam senang tapi steep learning curve 2. lack of references , kalau macam PHP ada local reprentative/forum macam http://php.net.my 3. Konsep MVC yang memeningkan kepala banyak orang 4. CLI ( migrations,versioning,rake Me myself really want to push RoR in my organizations 2010/10/14 E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com Salam Setuju dengan pandangan Kamal. Kebanyakan developer ada kekengan masa untuk urus tadbir server. Rasa-rasanya developer lebih suka untuk fokus pada development dari jadi Sys Admin. Senario sekarang di Malaysia, RoR Django developer macam dianaktirikan. 2010/10/14 Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com Salam Di Malaysia, saya rasa option menggunakan VPS masih lagi viable jika hendak menggunakan Ruby On Rails / Django dan developer mesti ada asas Sys Admin untuk manage server, maybe boleh guna style Heroku in the future Contohnya RoR kini sudah versi 3, dan banyak perubahan perlu dilakukan di server side menyebabkan sys admin pening kepala. Saya sebagai developer RoR ( separa masa ) terpaksa menggunakan CakePHP sebagai alternatif memandangkan kurangnya local developer untuk rujukan atau sebagai pembantu. 2010/10/14 Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa kamal.must...@gmail.com Kenapa shared hosting tempatan ? == Law of physics (read: latency) Pembukaan == Sebagai web developer, shared hosting termasuk dalam area of interest saya sejak 10 tahun lepas. Namun agak menyedihkan dalam tempoh tersebut, saya tidak melihat sebarang inovasi dalam industri shared hosting tempatan. Buat masa sekarang, sekiranya anda ingin host website atau aplikasi web anda di server tempatan, platform anda terhad kepada:- * PHP * ASP.NET * Ruby On Rails (cuma beberapa je yang saya jumpa setakat ini) * Plain CGI - Perl/Python (kebanyakannya masih lagi Python 2.2 !!) Ini adalah satu sebab kenapa platform seperti Python gagal mendapat tempat dalam lanskap pembangunan web tempatan. Melihat kepada perkembangan yang berlaku kepada PHP dalam tempoh 8 tahun lepas, shared hosting antara pemangkin utama. Saya akui ini merupakan chicken and egg problem. Tidak banyak penawaran hosting terhadap Python sebab kurangnya developer menggunakan platform ini, developer pula tidak berminat/terpaksa menggunakan platform lain kerana tidak ada shared hosting yang berpatutan utk host aplikasi yang dibangunkan. Sudah sampai masanya saya rasa utk komuniti developer sendiri yang bangun utk membetulkan keadaan ini. Saya tertarik dengan sejarah sebuah syarikat hosting iaitu textdrive (sekarang Joyent). Saya pernah menggunakan perkhidmatan mereka beberapa tahun lepas. Ceritanya boleh baca di http://textusers.com/wiki/History_of_TextDrive. Secara ringkasnya ia juga berkaitan dengan kekecewaan komuniti developers dengan shared hosting dan akhirnya mereka ambil keputusan utk membentuk syarikat hosting sendiri. Textdrive pada masa itu memperkenalkan beberapa inovasi berbanding shared hosting lain pada masa itu:- * Menggunakan webmin sebagai control panel dalam masa semua syarikat lain lebih kepada cpanel. * PHP run as FastCGI - membolehkan PHP dijalankan sebagai user process dan user boleh supply php.ini sendiri dan tak perlu bergantung kepada php_value settings dalam .htaccess - agak radikal pada masa itu. * Membekalkan sekali DNS hosting - user boleh create dan manage record melalui web panel dan point registrar kepada dns server mereka. * Shell access - juga agak radikal pada masa itu. Penambahbaikan yang perlu = Saya ada membuat catatan sebelum ini apa penambahbaikan yang saya inginkan dalam shared hosting tempatan (http://kamal.smach.net/node/269). Secara ringkasnya ada 2 buat permulaan:- * Isolasi proses - Kebanyakan hosting masih lagi menggunakan mod_php dengan main process utk semua user. Utk membolehkan file upload umpamanya, kena allow write access kepada apache process (www, apache2, nobody etc). Pendekatan ini merupakan fatal flaw (walaupun ada workaround spt php safe_mode dan open_basedir tapi masih lagi ada masalah tersendiri) kerana membuka ruang akses terhadap file kita kepada semua user dalam sistem tersebut. * Sokongan utk platform selain PHP terutama sekali Python (Django, web2py, pylons etc). * Shell access - upload file menggunakan ftp adalah tersangat primitif pada tahun 2010 ni tapi ia masih lagi satu norma dalam shared hosting tempatan. Shell access membenarkan penggunaan deployment tool terkini. Kenapa shared hosting ? == Mungkin ada yang berpendapat apa yang saya inginkan ini boleh didapati melalui VPS (VPS tempatan juga ada masalah tersendiri tapi mungkin di lain masa). Bagi developer dan bukannya full time sysadmin seperti saya, shared hosting masih lagi pilihan
Re: [osdcmy-public] Shared hosting done right
still remember the old days, to setup our web server, we used to download it from CERN website using cern httpd, as a tar.gz file, extract, and compile. and the best part is it fun :P ... 2010/10/14 CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com it never been a problem for someone with *nix background to pick up ruby or python just, the lamp or wamp stack made php programmers dont have to know about their own system Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; 2010/10/14 Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com rasa nak mencelah :P i think bazet the problem is your org seems like they never learn anything... 2010/10/14 Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com Kenapa kurang developers ? 1. ruby nampak macam senang tapi steep learning curve 2. lack of references , kalau macam PHP ada local reprentative/forum macam http://php.net.my 3. Konsep MVC yang memeningkan kepala banyak orang 4. CLI ( migrations,versioning,rake Me myself really want to push RoR in my organizations 2010/10/14 E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com Salam Setuju dengan pandangan Kamal. Kebanyakan developer ada kekengan masa untuk urus tadbir server. Rasa-rasanya developer lebih suka untuk fokus pada development dari jadi Sys Admin. Senario sekarang di Malaysia, RoR Django developer macam dianaktirikan. 2010/10/14 Azril Nazli Alias azril.na...@gmail.com Salam Di Malaysia, saya rasa option menggunakan VPS masih lagi viable jika hendak menggunakan Ruby On Rails / Django dan developer mesti ada asas Sys Admin untuk manage server, maybe boleh guna style Heroku in the future Contohnya RoR kini sudah versi 3, dan banyak perubahan perlu dilakukan di server side menyebabkan sys admin pening kepala. Saya sebagai developer RoR ( separa masa ) terpaksa menggunakan CakePHP sebagai alternatif memandangkan kurangnya local developer untuk rujukan atau sebagai pembantu. 2010/10/14 Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa kamal.must...@gmail.com Kenapa shared hosting tempatan ? == Law of physics (read: latency) Pembukaan == Sebagai web developer, shared hosting termasuk dalam area of interest saya sejak 10 tahun lepas. Namun agak menyedihkan dalam tempoh tersebut, saya tidak melihat sebarang inovasi dalam industri shared hosting tempatan. Buat masa sekarang, sekiranya anda ingin host website atau aplikasi web anda di server tempatan, platform anda terhad kepada:- * PHP * ASP.NET * Ruby On Rails (cuma beberapa je yang saya jumpa setakat ini) * Plain CGI - Perl/Python (kebanyakannya masih lagi Python 2.2 !!) Ini adalah satu sebab kenapa platform seperti Python gagal mendapat tempat dalam lanskap pembangunan web tempatan. Melihat kepada perkembangan yang berlaku kepada PHP dalam tempoh 8 tahun lepas, shared hosting antara pemangkin utama. Saya akui ini merupakan chicken and egg problem. Tidak banyak penawaran hosting terhadap Python sebab kurangnya developer menggunakan platform ini, developer pula tidak berminat/terpaksa menggunakan platform lain kerana tidak ada shared hosting yang berpatutan utk host aplikasi yang dibangunkan. Sudah sampai masanya saya rasa utk komuniti developer sendiri yang bangun utk membetulkan keadaan ini. Saya tertarik dengan sejarah sebuah syarikat hosting iaitu textdrive (sekarang Joyent). Saya pernah menggunakan perkhidmatan mereka beberapa tahun lepas. Ceritanya boleh baca di http://textusers.com/wiki/History_of_TextDrive. Secara ringkasnya ia juga berkaitan dengan kekecewaan komuniti developers dengan shared hosting dan akhirnya mereka ambil keputusan utk membentuk syarikat hosting sendiri. Textdrive pada masa itu memperkenalkan beberapa inovasi berbanding shared hosting lain pada masa itu:- * Menggunakan webmin sebagai control panel dalam masa semua syarikat lain lebih kepada cpanel. * PHP run as FastCGI - membolehkan PHP dijalankan sebagai user process dan user boleh supply php.ini sendiri dan tak perlu bergantung kepada php_value settings dalam .htaccess - agak radikal pada masa itu. * Membekalkan sekali DNS hosting - user boleh create dan manage record melalui web panel dan point registrar kepada dns server mereka. * Shell access - juga agak radikal pada masa itu. Penambahbaikan yang perlu = Saya ada membuat catatan sebelum ini apa penambahbaikan yang saya inginkan dalam shared hosting tempatan (http://kamal.smach.net/node/269). Secara ringkasnya ada 2 buat permulaan:- * Isolasi proses - Kebanyakan hosting masih lagi menggunakan mod_php dengan main process utk semua user. Utk membolehkan file upload umpamanya, kena allow write access kepada apache process (www, apache2, nobody etc). Pendekatan ini merupakan fatal flaw (walaupun ada workaround spt php safe_mode dan open_basedir tapi masih lagi ada masalah tersendiri) kerana membuka ruang akses terhadap file kita kepada semua user dalam
Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen
just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu is adopting adempiere, some customizing is on going.. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir that rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today we do not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we can brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh (not rakyat but in law to rakyat). If we put up billboards featuring their faces and my goat and say Made In Malaysia - Yes, Malaysia Can it will attract more investment due to the motivation, drive, spirit, semangat berkobar-kobar and it wont take even 0.0001% of any Rancangan Malaysia. Sadly the Pau Lady poster does not jinggle any pocket well. I have seen so much ideas given out here by our young turks and i pity that ALL if not most of them will end up leaving open source when they dry out as they get employed by proprietary companies that harvest their juices. Hopefully RMK10 brings change. If not hopefully the next General Elections. If not, keep bitching i mean pitching. :) On 5/2/10 12:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote: What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that. When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily. when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what. such is a sad state of .my now -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Sorry Flash...
a quick answer from Adobe to Steve... http://tv.adobe.com/watch/adc-presents/multitouch-capabilities-of-flash-player-101/ On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ It's beautiful. But I hate Flash. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Sorry Flash...
Taken from link comments: ... Standing with fist statement from apple 3.3.1 — Applications may only use Documented APIs in the manner prescribed by Apple and must not use or call any private APIs. Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited). On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com wrote: a quick answer from Adobe to Steve... http://tv.adobe.com/watch/adc-presents/multitouch-capabilities-of-flash-player-101/ On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ It's beautiful. But I hate Flash. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonVsPhp On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa cawan.nu...@gmail.com wrote: hola guys, php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how the battle goes muahahahahaha OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at: - scalability - namespace - speed - syntax - .. put ur input here .. of course we're not looking for winner here, only to weigh the pros n cons for both languages if you have references, please kindly provide ;) thx Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink http://cawanpink.net http://fosschix.my -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[osdcmy-public] Looking for g33k than can debug java codes
Assalaamualaikum, Greetings, Sorry for posting this here, interested please email me personally. Ps: freelance job On 3/3/10, MM marz...@gmail.com wrote: LG, Open Source Technology Seminar will be held on 10th March 2010 at Putrajaya International Convention Centre. Registration is required although admission is free due to limited seats available. 10 early birds will be entitled to mystery gifts. An event organised by TechnoDec Solutions and ECS Pericomp Sdn Bhd. more details: http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/news/delivering-maximum-business-value-by-leveraging-open-source-technology or: http://www.oscc.org.my/component/option,com_events/Itemid,162/ rgds MM -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Sent from my mobile device -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: Ralat : Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: mygosscon : kementerian kesihatan (bukan kewangan) jimat rm10 juta menggunakan open source software
there is no secret dalam configuration dia..., cuma bab qmail tuh ada customize sikit kat C code untuk mysql nyer connector. Semua users info, atau dalam kata lain apa yang sepatutnya ada dalam /etc/passwd file di divert kan dalam db. webCube or moh called it m...@cube adalah custom product. Initially developed for UUM in year 2000/2001 when their mail system crashed. Daripada situ one module after another (calendar, shoutbox, fms, wms etc) developed. Kalau nak try out boleh free registration di http://www.losong.com just for demo purpose, u get 10M of mail and 10M of file storage. if u ask from MOH for the setup/configuration they will ask from us *wink* :P. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Impressive. We may need to talk with MOH to share the configuration. We can filter out the servers detail. The documentation of the configuration will help to show how it works and sharing will expand people that know about this type and configuration and OSS support. :) On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com wrote: the product called Mitechsoft WebCube (try to google for it). terengganu base company, msc status, 100% bumi, codes written in php/mysql . last time when i do ls | wc -l it was about 44k users. setup using linux ultra-monkey project, with all those high reliability/availbility things, LVS/load balancer with heartbeat etc. already almost 4 years of usage. initially was for their migration path running away from ms exchange. mail combination of qmail and postfix, with mx running on postfix with dspam and clamav for anti viral/spam solution. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ralat : Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: mygosscon : kementerian kesihatan (bukan kewangan) jimat rm10 juta menggunakan open source software
just noticed, one of the Speaker - Abdul Rahman Johari (from XDM), if anyone from my-linux.org/Rindu.net era circa 1995-1999 he is also known as Anthea. BJT - Abu Bakar Al-Idrus is his lead programmer/CTO . hmmm the old days ... just poping into my head On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com wrote: there is no secret dalam configuration dia..., cuma bab qmail tuh ada customize sikit kat C code untuk mysql nyer connector. Semua users info, atau dalam kata lain apa yang sepatutnya ada dalam /etc/passwd file di divert kan dalam db. webCube or moh called it m...@cube adalah custom product. Initially developed for UUM in year 2000/2001 when their mail system crashed. Daripada situ one module after another (calendar, shoutbox, fms, wms etc) developed. Kalau nak try out boleh free registration di http://www.losong.com just for demo purpose, u get 10M of mail and 10M of file storage. if u ask from MOH for the setup/configuration they will ask from us *wink* :P. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Impressive. We may need to talk with MOH to share the configuration. We can filter out the servers detail. The documentation of the configuration will help to show how it works and sharing will expand people that know about this type and configuration and OSS support. :) On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com wrote: the product called Mitechsoft WebCube (try to google for it). terengganu base company, msc status, 100% bumi, codes written in php/mysql . last time when i do ls | wc -l it was about 44k users. setup using linux ultra-monkey project, with all those high reliability/availbility things, LVS/load balancer with heartbeat etc. already almost 4 years of usage. initially was for their migration path running away from ms exchange. mail combination of qmail and postfix, with mx running on postfix with dspam and clamav for anti viral/spam solution. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ralat : Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: mygosscon : kementerian kesihatan (bukan kewangan) jimat rm10 juta menggunakan open source software
Haris indeed, and actually i m still in contact we most of them, anthea, hanks, bjt, sifu(maznan), khai, sebol, azlanar, bazet kedai (bakhtiar) not sure if he is still with nstp. cBisu - totally lost contact with him. ef1 - utm? reimy, etc.. kena organize one big reunion, maybe time to push all of them/us back to the community... On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Meet him.. We should reunion balik... Those old days. :) On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Adzmely Mansor adzm...@gmail.com wrote: just noticed, one of the Speaker - Abdul Rahman Johari (from XDM), if anyone from my-linux.org/Rindu.net era circa 1995-1999 he is also known as Anthea. BJT - Abu Bakar Al-Idrus is his lead programmer/CTO . hmmm the old days ... just poping into my head --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
