Re: [osdcmy] Asset/Inventory Management Software

[Archayl Wizzpunk]

OpenERP, how? Custom ke?
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:08 AM,   wrote:
> U can try ocsinventory, www.ocsinventory-ng.org
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> Hi guys,
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> I am looking for an asset/inventory management software, preferably open
> source one, to be implemented in our faculty/department. The thing is that
> we wanted to keep track of the non-IT stuff (besides the usual IT stuff like
> computers and printers) as well, such as beakers, chairs, etc. Any
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RE: [osdcmy-public] Does anyone still code because of passion?

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technology is made as tool to ease human life. It is made to be utilised 
(bullied). When we make something, people use it. They dont care how the heck 
that thing comes to live. Somewhat it is connected to piracy, at least in my 
sense of thinking. But, what's with the testimonial at software selling sites? 
Oh...i messed up my brain

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On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:05 PM, CL Chow  wrote:

> Haha, Uma, being honest or critics is no issue for me,
> What I mean by disgrace is disrespect of what technology is!
> Technologies are sacred!!!
>
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/";
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar <
> u...@umarzuki.org> wrote:
>
>> i remembered during schooling days that there is a E option for "No to
>> all the above"
>>
>> that is the option that most people had chosen, i guess
>>
>> as for -> "Do we simply allow people to give us disgrace?"
>> there would be bloodbath if most people are taking this too seriously
>>
>> i know a country if you insult someone, you'll get beaten to death. Most
>> of the time. It's nearby btw.
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 22:39 +0800, CL Chow wrote:
>> > Does anyone still do this these days? Does the market needs only
>> > drones?
>> > Or should we succumb to be drones just because we cannot fight the
>> > temptation of BREAD?
>> > Do we need more people who plays golf better than code in this field?
>> > Do we need to be guided and pampered so we can create our own Silicon
>> > Valley?
>> > Do we simply create a project just to get funding?
>> > Do we simply code because we need the money?
>> > Do we simply allow people to give us disgrace?
>> > How many of us are aware we are falling deeper into this eternal hole
>> > of no conscience?
>> > Can't we code simply we just like to code?
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > CL Chow
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What sacred scares people, it is the same of religion or sacred place.
people still go, but not without fear or respect, it is not mutually
exclusive.

Technology on the other hand, sometime people fear it, use it, but rarely
respect it.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Does anyone still code because of passion?

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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:39 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> Does anyone still do this these days? Does the market needs only drones?
> Or should we succumb to be drones just because we cannot fight the
> temptation of BREAD?
> Do we need more people who plays golf better than code in this field?
> Do we need to be guided and pampered so we can create our own Silicon
> Valley?
> Do we simply create a project just to get funding?
> Do we simply code because we need the money?
> Do we simply allow people to give us disgrace?
> How many of us are aware we are falling deeper into this eternal hole of no
> conscience?
> Can't we code simply we just like to code?
> Regards,
> CL Chow
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Still got one here. Cheers! Think there's lot more out there. I'm
having fun looking at something
I do with my own hand. That's still counted as passion to code, am I wrong? ;)

p/s: does GMail have right border limit feature? kinda that 80 char on
a line. Hate looking at lonnng line like
this

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Re: [osdcmy-public] my1os. The 1st Malaysian Operating System

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I felt awkward looking at the website for my1os. Kinda something out of place.
Nevermind that, it's better than nothin'.

Is there gonna be documentation and manual for this in local language
anytime soon?
If so, it should doubles as linux doc too. i wonder...

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:48 AM, MASOKIS  wrote:
> eh.. tak perasan pula ayat ni.. dipetik dari web utusan
>
>> "Mengulas sasaran syarikat berkenaan Kahar berkata, pihaknya berharap
>> memperoleh sebanyak sejuta pengguna My1os di kalangan rakyat Malaysia
>> sehingga akhir tahun ini."
>> by: Ketua Pegawai Eksekutifnya, Kahar Kamarudin
>
> @http://forum.kjkm.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4768&p=59711#p59709
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Jayaseelan Yezhuaralai 
> wrote:
>>
>> The original distro is Ubuntu they have not changes lsb-release to reflect
>> my1os.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayaseelan
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:11 AM, lutfi raffi 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> mungkin mereka tidak memerlukan komuniti... huhu... OSS yang tidak
>>> memerlukan komuniti... yeah...
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:06 PM, MASOKIS  wrote:

 sape yang dapat cd tu.. cuba check "/etc/lsb-release" =))
 my1os ni dari instrak @ http://www.instrak2u.com/v2/index.php

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> Dalam tu ada mention yang dia guna open source software. Tapi Ku tak
> tumpa pun satu ayat yang bagi kredit pada Ubuntu.
>
> 2010/12/18 darXness darXness :
> > fuh...tgk berita kat utusan da lame.tp xlak heboh2 sgt
> > 1.sori,ak xpasan kat mane2 info page lam site dorng yg ckp dorng gune
> > linux,rasenye better bgtau kot skit2.
> > 2.server gov msia rasenyer banyakxde space lam 4-5 gb ke nak wat
> > mirror
> > or link ntuk dload?
> > 3.kalo btol da ade beta tester or what so ever,ptt ltk la
> > screenshot,so org
> > leh tgk2.kalo ade yg berkenan,leh try request.
> > 4.sbnrnye,ak still kabur ngn target my1os nie...ntuk gov,rakyat,or
> > both,or
> > camne...
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Re: [osdcmy-public] community pictures needed

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Hope it's not too late.

http://www.kuchingosc.org/gallery/

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Najah  wrote:
> Great Nuhaa,
>
> By the way, i managed to explain a little bit about Open Source in
> Malaysia, OSDC and MOSC to your Vice President, Greg Whalen few days
> back. He looked impress and willing to contribute.  Will be meeting
> him again next week. :-)
>
> Yun
>
> On 12/17/10, nuhaa  wrote:
>> hi n salam all...
>>
>> wud love to collect some of ur FUN community pictures having FUN doing FUN
>> stuff
>>
>> or you can point me to links so i can grab them
>>
>> i'm going to give short talk on oss community in malaysia to my colleagues
>> here .. they probably not aware of these communities so if we can have
>> pictures showing having fun at what we do, they might get interested to
>> contribute
>>
>> thanks much
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>> regards,
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RE: [osdcmy-public] Perkenalan

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Salam perkenalan, saya el.welcome to the club.

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salam perkenalan juga dari saya, Syazwan.

harap dapat sertai kami di sini selalu ya :)

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RE: [osdcmy-public] Minta cadangan software E-commerce

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Payment nak pakai bank transfer dan paypal.thanks for the info.try godek2 tgk 
oscommerce malam ni.tak pernah buat ecommerce sebelum ni. Buat website + cms 
je.ni 1st time dapat projek ecommerce.kepada sifu-sifu tolonglah pas-pas 
ilmu.hehehe.

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Try oscommerce.com. Guna payment engine apa ? Kalau nak develop sendiri saya 
cadangkan beli buku agile web dev with ruby on rails ver 3. Memang dalam buku 
tu ajar develop shopping cart
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Salam,

seperti tertera di subjek, mintak cadangan untuk e-commerce punya 
software.setakat ni da try  opencart, tapi macam ada problem kalau deploy kat 
shared hosting 000webhost (free). Kalau ada sesiapa ada pengalaman dengan 
ecommerce punya software, sila2 lah kemukakan. Skarang ni tgh nak usha zen 
cart.kalau boleh nak yg senang modify or extend. Didahului dengan jutaan terima 
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[osdcmy-public] Minta cadangan software E-commerce

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Salam,

seperti tertera di subjek, mintak cadangan untuk e-commerce punya 
software.setakat ni da try  opencart, tapi macam ada problem kalau deploy kat 
shared hosting 000webhost (free). Kalau ada sesiapa ada pengalaman dengan 
ecommerce punya software, sila2 lah kemukakan. Skarang ni tgh nak usha zen 
cart.kalau boleh nak yg senang modify or extend. Didahului dengan jutaan terima 
kasih.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

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I'm on it!

On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 08:42 +0800, lutfi raffi wrote:
> Salam...
> 
> 
> Pertama sekali, saya ingin mengucapkan tahniah di atas MOSC 2010.
> Setelah membaca mailing list osdc.my, saya tergerak untuk memikirkan
> cara-cara untuk membantu komuniti terutama dari segi kewangan. Jadi
> saya mencadangkan agar kite menubuhkan koperasi OSDC.my (atau nama
> yang lain) supaya komuniti-komuniti OSS di Malaysia dapat bergiat
> dengan lebih aktif lagi dengan kewujudan koperasi ini. Selain itu, Cik
> Najah sangat arif di dalam bidang ini.
> 
> 
> Jika tak silap saya, untuk menubuhkan koperasi perlukan minimum 50
> orang. sekiranya setiap ahli menyumbang RM 20, jadi modal permulaan
> untuk koperasi adalah RM1000.00. Untuk permulaan saya rasa kita boleh
> mengadakan bengkel-bengkel OSS seperti yang telah dilakukan saudara
> Hidzwan (e1) yang sering mendapat sambutan. Untung bersih (setelah
> tolak kos upah dan sebagainya) kita boleh masukkan ke dalam akaun
> koperasi. 
> 
> 
> Selain bengkel, kita juga boleh buat jualan-jualan seperti yang
> dilakukan oleh rakan Jom Linux (Digide Technology Enterprise) yang
> menjual CD Ubuntu dan aksesori-aksesori yang berkaitan dengan OSS. Ini
> juga dapat memudahkan dan menggalakkan pengguna linux untuk
> mempromosikan OSS lagi.
> 
> 
> Oleh itu, saya perlukan pendapat kalian untuk meneruskan projek ini.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
> Wassalam
> 
> Raja we sort out the registration issues and administration
> next week.
> 
> Office and administration I have ask Yun to do it for us... I
> believe
> she has talk to TPM regard to office facility but need to
> disscuss
> further.
> 
> We will keep on posting progress here so anyone that can help
> us, will
> know where to get into the loop.
> 
> Cikgu Ayob,
> 
> Terima kasih atas sokongan. Apa yang saya kongsikan adalah
> "Brainstoming" daripada pelbagai individu dan tunjuk ajar
> organisasi.
> Organisasi ini telah banyak kali membantu dalam memberikan
> nasihat dan
> tunjuk ajar. Sekarang adalah masa untuk kita berjalan sendiri
> dan
> berlari.
> 
> Wassalam.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
> > salam boss
> >
> > thanks for posting this up again.
> >
> > i believe we can also add mimos into this picture : since
> they are now
> > working on the zend php certification
> >
> > next week will try to sort out the osdc.my registration.
> then we can sit
> > down to a calendar for 2011.
> >
> > i am interested in the workshops but at the moment, still no
> office facility
> > to do this.
> >
> > i can try talking to kperak, if they are kind enough to host
> workshops for
> > the community in ipoh (naik train 2 jam aje ;-)
> >
> > wakil mimos or mdec boleh tolong ke untuk host ?
> >
> >
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Re: [osdcmy-public] selamat hari raya

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Salam aidilfitri. Bro myusnizam, ini email la bro. Bkn sms.hehe. maaf
zahir batin to all.

On Friday, September 10, 2010,   wrote:
>SALAM diberi setulus hati, SMS dihntar penganti diri. Salah & silap mohon 
> dimaafi,Semoga persaudaraan kekal abadi.. Maaf Zahir & Batin . Yus sekeluarga 
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention

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There are things that we can gain from this. Eventually, if this attack
goes on, we will progressively improve our defense, thus strengthen our
web space security.

Thanks to them for volunteering to help us create a safer web. =)

Chill out brothers/sis!

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention

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On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 21:26 +0800, simpleLinux wrote:
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> Date: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:25 PM
> Subject: Intrusion Prevention
> To: owasp-malaysia-boun...@lists.owasp.org
> 
> 
> Is there any tools that we can use to prevent intrusion? Paid or Free
> is not the hot cake...
> 
> Also, is there any patch we can use for Apache Web Server?
> 
> I'm worried because there IS an attempt to deface my server, as you
> all can see here my server has been defaced:
> http://myne.tk/hacked/Indonesia.html
> 
> An attack of such DDOS also detected on 31 August 2010 on 00:09 where
> it takes 335 Megabytes of free bandwidth out during the attack.
> 
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As far as my knowledge goes, intrusion prevention can be only done by
applying appropriate security measure. Good security practice always
comes in handy. Maybe there are tools to make that easier in the sense
of checking for security holes, but I don't know any of them.

Two things that I can think of how this can happen is either the server
security problem or you web apps. IMHO, Apache web server got some
configurations to prevent this, but that's up to the admin to figure
that out (Google is your kind friend).

Just my 2 cent.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] i am now the owner of the internet domain economy !

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On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 20:52 +0800, red1 wrote:
> good catch ... also http://sodo.my
> 
> On 8/20/10 7:59 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote:
> > you should buy econo.my instead :)
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rofl!!!

outstanding catch! i wonder if that will ever be approved.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] August Issue Linux Format Magazine from UK selects JStock as HotPick

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On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 05:40 -0700, yccheok wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Just would like to share with you all, August Issue Linux Format
> Magazine from UK selects JStock as HotPick.
> 
> http://jstock.sourceforge.net/press/linux-format.pdf
> 
> Just FYI, JStock is an open source project started from Malaysia
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Congrates! I'm proud even though I don't have the share of it. It's
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Its The Rakyat That We Need To Convince Not The Government

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> Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera,
> 
> I have reading numbers of email regarding the Open Source Software
> (OSS) and our government in this list and we know how hard to get OSS
> into the government selection and option.
> 
> I keep on asking myself, why? Why our policy makers hard to to get OSS
> as the main and important option in selection of software and the
> answer is only one ...( err may be two points)
> 
> We have money to buy proprietary and we don't care how much we going
> to spend because its not our money.
> 
> Wow its hit me. After having sahur with nasi and sambal ikan sardin
> ... Its not about Government money its about our money. The Rakyat.
> 
> If Rakyat (people) know how much that we have spend to buy other
> software rather then OSS and much its can be save and what OSS can do
> to build our nation... I believe its will change the policy and
> perspective ...
> 
> We should focusing in convincing The Rakyat the benefit of OSS and
> making sure that The Rakyat will pressure our government OSS should be
> the main and important option in selection of software.
> 
> How ? We should discuss this
> When ? Now ... We should get The Rakyat know right away
> What ? Its all about people power of selection of choices
> Who ? We are. We are The Rakyat.
> Where ? Every state and every where.
> 
> Set our target right, and we should get this done properly
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How about habit? One thing people always have a hard time to cope.
Change, adapt. (Two?)

I've seen 3 Office Suite in one computer. Microsoft, Star, and Open. Go
guess which one get frequent click-thru. When I see those situation, I
wonder where the ~90% OSS adoption in Malaysia Government..

Just my 2 rants..

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Looking for a PHP developer working on Open Source Software

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On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 20:12 +0800, Azril Nazli Alias wrote:
> I'll spread the new...do you require any Framework knowledge like
> Cake,Zend,Ci ?
> 
> http://azrilnazli.blogspot.com
> 
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> interesting... but not experienced enough
> 
> Regards,
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> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Walter Heck
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> 
> our startup tribily is looking for PHP developers. I'm
> posting this
> position here because you will be mostly working on
> Open Source
> projects that are being released back to the greater
> public. Anyone
> with relevant PHP experience and time on their hands
> is encouraged to
> apply. Read more here:
> http://tribily.com/page/tribily-hiring
> 
> We currently already have two PHP-developers based in
> Malaysia doing
> parttime work, but we're looking for people who can
> put in more hours
> then just evenings and weekends. I'd like to give more
> of the talent
> here in Malaysia a chance, so don't hesitate to apply!
> 
> hope to hear from you soon!
> 
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Looks tempting. I'll too help spread the news. Gosh, I wish I've had
more experience in PHP.

How about some detailed requirements like Azril asked? This will help
you narrow the scope. 2cents.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] MamakSpot Wifi Developers Network

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Kalau pakai Google punya hosting, ada svn je kot. Kalau boleh pakai git
la yer. Heheheh.

On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 16:27 +0800, Azril Nazli Alias wrote:
> Tak pandai pakai repo :D 
> 
> Guna Subversion sekali aja ..nanti code baru nih aku try belajar
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Re: [osdcmy-public] MamakSpot Wifi Developers Network

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Bro, svn kosong kat repo[1]. Ke memang tak pakai repo?

[1] http://code.google.com/p/mamakspot/


On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 15:46 +0800, Azril Nazli Alias wrote:
> Hopefully
> 
> ./cake bake project mamakspot
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:42 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> is the cake baking?
> 
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> 
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Azril Nazli Alias
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After being dormant for moons, I've decided to revived
> back MamakSpot Wifi project. Currently all the project
> updates will be made public @ Facebook MamakSpot Group
> ( http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=124079334282091 )
> 
> This time, I'am going to use barebone
> Ubuntu,Freeradius,LAMP,CoovaChilli,DDWRT,CoovaAP and
> CakePHP Framework.And hopefully I can release the ISO/
> Sources soon after that
> 
> The blog : http://mamakspot.blogspot.com
> The FB Group :
> http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=124079334282091
> Kosmo Review  :
> 
> http://www.kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2008&dt=0904&pub=Kosmo&sec=Infiniti&pg=in_03.htm
> 
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> permits :D
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Re: [osdcmy-public] MamakSpot Wifi Developers Network

[archayl]

My first impression about the project is wifi hotspot for mamak
restaurant based on the name.

How is this project going? Implementation? I'd like to know more and
maybe participate in the devs.

On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 15:46 +0800, Azril Nazli Alias wrote:
> Hopefully
> 
> ./cake bake project mamakspot
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:42 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> is the cake baking?
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
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> Send OpenDocument instead!
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> 
> 
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Azril Nazli Alias
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After being dormant for moons, I've decided to revived
> back MamakSpot Wifi project. Currently all the project
> updates will be made public @ Facebook MamakSpot Group
> ( http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=124079334282091 )
> 
> This time, I'am going to use barebone
> Ubuntu,Freeradius,LAMP,CoovaChilli,DDWRT,CoovaAP and
> CakePHP Framework.And hopefully I can release the ISO/
> Sources soon after that
> 
> The blog : http://mamakspot.blogspot.com
> The FB Group :
> http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=124079334282091
> Kosmo Review  :
> 
> http://www.kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2008&dt=0904&pub=Kosmo&sec=Infiniti&pg=in_03.htm
> 
> This project is considered as a hobby when the time
> permits :D
> 
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> 019 371 8462
> Presint 11 Putrajaya
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Re: [osdcmy-public] KL broadband slow?

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Click thru ads?

On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 12:51 +0800, Steward Riz wrote:
> Speed test + trace route
> Speed test site location : Utah, USA
> _
> klbroadband.JPG_
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Goverment web services

[archayl]

That portal forced me to install xp inside vm. That is the only purpose
of the vm. Opening such creepy apps. Luckily I got a genuine copy of xp.
See how they assume and force public to use win. That makes me even
eager to invade their arena (applied for the job of IT Officer recently)
and change that, even if it costs me scold and sarcasm.

MAD

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 13:12 +0800, Boh Yap wrote:
> care to elaborate on your story, I'm sure we'll all like to hear.
> and how/why should they be ruining your life?
> 
> yeah they are still using stupid MS technology...
> (I clicked on the link and it asked me to use IE)
> 
> Perhaps we can use this thread/forum to share stories of how
> bad/stupid IT implementations are ... in gov/private sector?
> 
> I'm sure we all have plenty.
> 
> And use this to leverage the benefits of FOSS.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar  wrote:
> > http://iapps.uitm.edu.my/epengambilanstaf/
> >
> > STUPID
> >
> > I once get suspended for 2 semesters because of "hacking" their 20
> > years old mssql servers and now keep ruining my life. WTF
> >
> >
> >
> > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
> > ---
> > Ubuntu embedded developer/tester
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut
> >
> > Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
> >
> > PGP Public Key 
> > http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:29 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> >> 2-3 years is new??? a 2-3year old kid can walk, talk already...
> >> what we have here??? few more years to wait??? few more years to plan???
> >> then, the plan got old and need few more years to update and it loops...
> >> that's what i've been seeing for all these years!!!
> >> quit blaiming the education, blaiming the industry, blaiming the quality 
> >> and
> >> blaiming the graduates anymore!!!
> >> why can't we just stop, and do them seriously??? and i still don't
> >> understand why we needed to be locked inside the box, always!!!
> >> we need more innovations than implementations!!!
> >> btw I wanted to say this out loud for so long already... I'm enough of the
> >> government's crappy browsers support(some still ie 5!!!), crappy web 
> >> design,
> >> and basically and frankly, they are crap!!!
> >> If you wondering who am i?Yes!!! i am a nobody, but i did try to work
> >> something out, regardless of failures, why should we afraid to lose???
> >> that's why we call "experience" !!! Wake up please!!! Bah!!!
> >> Thank you!!!
> >> Regards,
> >> CL Chow
> >> "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
> >> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/";
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar 
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> At NHK Japan http://www.nhk.or.jp
> >>> >> All technical persons are engineers (bachelor degree and above) with
> >>> >> certificates CCNA, RHCE etc.. (without unrelated jobs scope and
> >>> >> tasks). Theoretically there are no technician (diploma equivalent).
> >>> >> So I don't know why OUR government agencies can't do this, still hire
> >>> >> diploma/degree person without skill even to do a simple w3c compliant
> >>> >> website. Guys, just learn Joomla or Drupal then we don't have to waste
> >>> >> our time to discuss  these things.
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> > that is going to be a revolution if that happening here in Malaysia. In
> >>> > a
> >>> > revolution, there were massacres involved.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think the problem of degree is the main culprit. They just
> >>> don't concern with the fundamental stuffs.
> >>> Met several people who don't even graduate, or graduate with non IT
> >>> degree, but perform better than the CS/IT grads.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway I blame the recruitment process. They should call competent
> >>> technical people to hire PSM/F grade ppl.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] osdcmywiki needs more writers and contributors!!!

[archayl]

Just asking, what's wrong with the other one. osdcmy.pbworks.com.
There's one, why is there a need to create anew? Nothing personal. Just
asking about the significance of this.

Please clarify, thanks.

On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 18:25 +0800, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote:
> we need more writers and contributors..
> join us!!
> 
> http://osdcmywiki.pbworks.com
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Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

[Archayl Wizzpunk]

Kawan-kawan, tolong buat correction. Kuching OSC, bukan Kuching OSS.
Community, bukan Software atau Society. Terima kasih daun keladi.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar  wrote:
> no drupal?
>
>
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> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Mohd Fadzil Md Arap  
> wrote:
>> myopensuse = eric yeoh
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Umazurki,
>>>
>>> What your suggestion. Until now only your are active dalam debian. Kalau
>>> you ada somebody yang lead the debian community. Give some name.. we will
>>> update list.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> er...debian tu rasenye lagi molek kalau point/pilih ahli-ahli senior
>>>> yahoo group mydebian
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Update Community Leaders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Joomla -  En. Shaifullnizam
>>>>>> 2) Ubuntu - En. Khairul Aizat
>>>>>> 3) Fedora - En Syamsul Anuar
>>>>>> 4) Python -
>>>>>> 5) Fosschix - Cik Nuhaa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6) PHP - En. Amran
>>>>>> 7) PCBSD - En. Ahmad Arafat
>>>>>> 8) PhpNuke -
>>>>>> 9) Debian - En. Umarzuki
>>>>>> 10) Slackware -
>>>>>> 12) Ruby -
>>>>>> 13) FOSS.MY -
>>>>>> 14) SimpleLinux -
>>>>>> 15) Kedah OSS -
>>>>>> 16) Melaka OSS -
>>>>>> 17) Kuching OSS - Kuching OSC, En. N.B. Liang
>>>>>> 18) Sabah OSS -
>>>>>> 19) Kelantan OSS -
>>>>>> 20) Trengganu OSS -
>>>>>
>>>>> 21) Kuantan Linux User Group - En. Zamri
>>>>>
>>>>> Johor ade..tapi sudah menyepi dari aktiviti :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OSDC.MY is a platform for any OSS community in Malaysia gather in one
>>>>>>> roof. Otherwise OSS community will scatter around Malaysia and nobody 
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> it. We seek any OSS community to join OSDC.MY and promote all the OSS
>>>>>>> community to Malaysian that OSS community was exist and they can join 
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> OSS community. :) BTW update KOSC in database. I wil update all the 
>>>>>>> list and
>>>>>>> person contact each community. Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM, archayl  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LoL. Shame on me ;). Just thought that it'd be nice if OSDC.my is
>>>>>>>> along
>>>>>>>> the same level with everyone else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, here you are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Community: Kuching Open Source Community - KuchingOSC.
>>>>>>>> Contact person: me, though I'm not the leader. I can channel to the
>>>>>>>> community though.
>>>>>>>> Website: http://kuchingosc.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's it. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 19:10 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Dear archayl,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > OSDC.My was the the organizer and will lead all the OSS community
>>>>>>>> > for
>>>>>>>> > this. So i hope you understand. What ever OSS related that their
>>>>>>>> > have
>>>>>>>> > own community was a OSS community. Hope you clear on this and are
>>>>>>&g

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

[archayl]

LoL. Shame on me ;). Just thought that it'd be nice if OSDC.my is along
the same level with everyone else.

Okay, here you are.

Community: Kuching Open Source Community - KuchingOSC.
Contact person: me, though I'm not the leader. I can channel to the
community though.
Website: http://kuchingosc.org

That's it. Thanks.

On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 19:10 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:
> Dear archayl,
> 
> OSDC.My was the the organizer and will lead all the OSS community for
> this. So i hope you understand. What ever OSS related that their have
> own community was a OSS community. Hope you clear on this and are you
> one of the leader community if yes please give me your detail so i can
> put in on OSDC.My database. Thank for your reply. :)
> 
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:59 PM, archayl  wrote:
> OSDC.my is not in the list?
> 
> Question: local community - involved? Not related to specific
> software,
> but the principle of OSS.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:39 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:
> > Dear all communities,
> >
> > I would like to notes all communities give co-operation with
> this
> > coming events. I need person contact via email/phone with
> all leader
> > OSS community. I will list below community that i know was
> listed.
> > Each person in charge of community i need their idea and
> what
> > community can involve and contribute to this events. Hope if
> the
> > community not listed down here please inform me so we know
> many OSS
> > community In Malaysia.
> >
> > 1) Joomla -
> > 2) Ubuntu -
> > 3) Fedora -
> > 4) Python -
> > 5) Fosschix -
> > 6) PHP -
> > 7) PCBSD -
> > 8) PhpNuke -
> > 9) Debian -
> > 10) Slackware -
> > 12) Ruby -
> > 13) Foss.my -
> >
> > So far only 2 community want to make events. It Joomla &
> Ubuntu. If
> > any community want to do also any xtvt for this events
> please dont
> > hesitate to contact me to discuss further. Hope all
> community can give
> > co-operation for this events succesful for this years. This
> years for
> > us make ourself proud and tell Malaysian we are alive and
> and we are
> > here!!!. Thanks
> >
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Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

[archayl]

OSDC.my is not in the list?

Question: local community - involved? Not related to specific software,
but the principle of OSS.

On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:39 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:
> Dear all communities,
> 
> I would like to notes all communities give co-operation with this
> coming events. I need person contact via email/phone with all leader
> OSS community. I will list below community that i know was listed.
> Each person in charge of community i need their idea and what
> community can involve and contribute to this events. Hope if the
> community not listed down here please inform me so we know many OSS
> community In Malaysia.
> 
> 1) Joomla - 
> 2) Ubuntu -
> 3) Fedora -
> 4) Python -
> 5) Fosschix -
> 6) PHP - 
> 7) PCBSD -
> 8) PhpNuke -
> 9) Debian - 
> 10) Slackware - 
> 12) Ruby - 
> 13) Foss.my - 
> 
> So far only 2 community want to make events. It Joomla & Ubuntu. If
> any community want to do also any xtvt for this events please dont
> hesitate to contact me to discuss further. Hope all community can give
> co-operation for this events succesful for this years. This years for
> us make ourself proud and tell Malaysian we are alive and and we are
> here!!!. Thanks
> 
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: [ubuntu-my] Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome

[archayl]

Opera crashed my X, a lot. Opera is the closest to the W3C spec, but
somehow not very close to standards-ignorance so called web designer.

Firefox for for development is frankly great because of the add-ons
abundance. As you might know, it is a bit slow. 1 process forked, that
is.

Chrome fits better for casual web surfing. The 'Inspect Element' proves
useful to me. I used the Resource Tracking a lot for various purpose.

>From all of the 3, I used Firefox a lot, because I used Ubuntu. Ubuntu
supports and includes Firefox as their default browser, read:
integration. A bit convenient. On other platform, I've no idea how those
3 perform.

I'd prefer we choose a browser that best suit our usage pattern. Every
one of them got their own pros and cons. If you never used tabs more
than 15 (sure you're a busy person), Firefox just works fine. If you
fancy pages that are consumed by JavaScript and Flash-y, maybe Chrome
works best. If you are some standards evangelist (salute), Opera should
fits happily. Check our style of usage. That will eventually give the
accurate answer for the *best* browser. As we all know, we have the
right to choose, we are part of Open Source Community. ;-)

Just my 2 cent..

On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 19:00 +0800, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini wrote:
> I wonder how abour arora..quite good browser too :)
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:55 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> since you mentioned konquerer, how about elinks???
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Mohd Hidzuan
>  wrote:
> Konquerer tiada kah? The Underdog punyer browser yang
> tiada tandingan... 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Khairul Aizat
> Kamarudzzaman  wrote:
> 
> hola guys,
> 
> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome? yeapp
> this going to be interesting
> 
> Firefox vs Opera vs Chromiun/Chrome hardcores
> pls put in ur input - we're
> interested to see how
> the battle goes muahahahahaha
> 
> 
> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things
> we're looking at:
> 
> - scalability
> - namespace
> - speed
> - syntax
> - does it work well with all programming
> language? (php, java, html, python n
> etc)
> - how about the flash @ pdf compatibility?
> - look n feel
> - OS platform supported
> - .. put ur input here ..
> 
> of course we're not looking for winner here,
> only to weigh the pros n cons
> for both languages
> 
> if you have references, please kindly
> provide ;)
> 
> thx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *p/s: thanks/credit to cawanpink because im
> borrowing her words ...
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Objectives

[archayl]

150% agree. Participation of members is crucial, including myself. But I
see that I can't participate much. Because I don't see where I can
participate. There's a lot about meeting, conference. Being those events
are done physically, I can't participate, mainly because I'm in Borneo.
Maybe that's just me though. Try to look at the documentation project.
How many people did participate?

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 23:28 +0800, solitude...@hotmail wrote:
> how about "we" includes all of us other then the few individuals?
> 
> On 4/8/2010 11:19 PM, archayl wrote:
> > point 1 - is this sustained? Good that we're moving on objective 1. How
> > about if we set our focus and try to achieve it. Why set objectives if
> > we didn't intend to achieve it, right?
> >
> > On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 22:53 +0800, rafe azsnal wrote:
> >
> >> What does it mean by none??
> >>
> >> 1. Osdc. my has make contact physically with Osdc. au this
> >> relationships has been establish during the engagements of Osdc. my to
> >> Osdc. au 2009 in Brisbane, Australia
> >>
> >> 2. Most of the oss community here has established a communication
> >> linkage via virtual or physical. Eg.  Pcbsd, ubuntu n etc...etc...
> >>
> >> 3. We have red1 among others. feature all this n build story from it
> >> will be nicely fitted later.
> >>
> >>  
> >>> On Apr 8, 2010 10:19 PM, "Harisfazillah Jamel"
> >>>   wrote:
> >>>
> >>> None...
> >>>
> >>> Progress is slow but we are moving... This year conference is a test
> >>> for us whether OSS community can do things by the support of all
> >>> community...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:03 PM, archayl  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all, just wanted to have s...
> >>>>  
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Objectives

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point 1 - is this sustained? Good that we're moving on objective 1. How
about if we set our focus and try to achieve it. Why set objectives if
we didn't intend to achieve it, right?

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 22:53 +0800, rafe azsnal wrote:
> What does it mean by none?? 
> 
> 1. Osdc. my has make contact physically with Osdc. au this
> relationships has been establish during the engagements of Osdc. my to
> Osdc. au 2009 in Brisbane, Australia
> 
> 2. Most of the oss community here has established a communication
> linkage via virtual or physical. Eg.  Pcbsd, ubuntu n etc...etc... 
> 
> 3. We have red1 among others. feature all this n build story from it
> will be nicely fitted later. 
> 
> > On Apr 8, 2010 10:19 PM, "Harisfazillah Jamel"
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > None...
> > 
> > Progress is slow but we are moving... This year conference is a test
> > for us whether OSS community can do things by the support of all
> > community...
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:03 PM, archayl  wrote:
> > > Hi all, just wanted to have s...
> > 
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[osdcmy-public] Objectives

[archayl]

Hi all, just wanted to have some thoughts on this. These are the
objectives from OSDC.my web page.

-A platform for Malaysian developers to engage with developers from
other countries.

-Provide a platform for Malaysian developers to leverage their
ideas/thoughts to the public.

-To produce world class developers in Malaysia.

-To gain public interest towards Open Source development in Malaysia.

How far did we achieve?

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Goverment web services

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http://iapps.uitm.edu.my/epengambilanstaf/

tu boleh kita government ka?
terpaksa install windows nak masuk sistem tu.

kalau bukan kerana kerja

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 11:59 +0800, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
> All,
> 
> Jangan cuba just first page or browse inquiry. Please used the
> services provided like business registration or any form base that
> need to used auto filling or data selection.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
> > tested on firefox on ubuntu 9.10 ok aje.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> 1) Ada berani nak bangkitkan
> >>
> >> http://www.malaysia.gov.my/EN/Pages/default.aspx
> >>
> >> Best viewed using IE version 7.0 and above with the resolution of 1024
> >> x 768 (no other browsers mention)
> >>
> >
> > not sure if this works : https://e.hasil.gov.my/
> >
> > even with the warning, it looks to be working ok on non-windows.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Cloud in OSCONF 2010

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Opp...my bad..typo. RTFM. Google it!

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:48 +0800, Muhammad Hafiz wrote:
> @Syazwan : Uncle and Auntie Google aku dah kerepot d :P
> 
> @archayl : What's 'RTMFed'?
> 
> @simpleLinux : Thanks a lot for the answers, appreciated it =) Cheers!
> =)
> 
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:55 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> cloud is something that is virtual... eg, you could run an
> operating system virtually. You could also run an operating
> system remotely using your web browser.
> 
> example of Cloud Operating Systems:
>  1. Google Cloud
>  2. gOS
>  3. eyeOS
> 
> Advanced cloud operating system could enable you to run a
> single networking systems, or could run a webserver.
> 
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Cloud in OSCONF 2010

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Owh pity..you've been RTFMed..

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 17:58 +0800, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Muhammad Hafiz
>  wrote:
> Err, sorry interrupting. I'm a noob about this cloud thingy.
> Is it similar to virtual hosting, and what's cloud actually?
> Awan I know, OK :D
> like Simon said, google it :p 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Hafiz =) 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
> boh, ok boleh. i am interested. let's set a date in
> may (by that time, hopefully, my team will be
> available and we have moved into the cyberjaya office.
> also getting a 1.5mbps tm sme biz internet line with
> fixed ip.
> 
> do you have any pc / server that we can pool
> together ? at the moment i have two spare pc.
> 
> the instructions on
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall look
> doable.
> 
> we start with ubuntu first ? i want to add our php web
> app. do you have a phython app to put on it ? anything
> on perl ?
> 
> after that we can put r and rapidminer to simulate
> backend processing. i think cloud with analytics will
> make a great package.
> 
> other stuff that we are interested of putting in :
> adempiere and ulteo open virtual desktop. and talend
> etl.
> 
> let's see how much we can install on it before it
> crashes !
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:38 PM, CL Chow
>  wrote:
> Interested in cloud database
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple
> iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead!
> http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/";
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Boh Yap
>  wrote:
> ah,
> 
> Azrul is restating R.Stallmans
> comments buts it s OK..
> 
> there are Open Source Clouds, ie:
> clouds by Open Src companies who
> adhere to a philosophy of FOSS,
> transparency, ...etc,  but there are
> also FOSS tools to allow you to build
> yr own cloud here is a URL
> 
> 
> http://socializedsoftware.com/2010/01/20/eleven-open-source-cloud-computing-projects-to-watch/
> 
> Among the 2 prominent ones are
> Eucalyptus:
> http://open.eucalyptus.com/
> Globus Nimbus, Chicago U.:
> http://www.nimbusproject.org/
> 
> can read more about them here:
> http://www.technologyreview.com/web/21642/
> 
> I also remember reading somewhere that
> Mandriva, one of my favourite
> distros, is also getting into the act
> of providing such tools as well
> as providing cloud infra, ala Ubuntu,
> but I cannot find it (the tools
> part that is)
> 
> So yes, we can play in cloud too in
> FOSS.
> 
> And Raja, if you wanna build a cloud,
> I'll be interested... time
> permitting of course.. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

How about this?

http://ms.wikibooks.org/wiki/Laman_Utama

I think this is a great(!) place. No fuss. Create a book, collaborate.
No headache about hosting, domain and so on. It's in Malay language
only, though.

Create books for Ubuntu, Fedora, General Linux, everything you can.. I
think so, coz i just take a peek at it. Not thorough analysis.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

Ok, now can't delete the account, http://osdcmy.pbworks.com/
once deleted, can never be used, the name...ever again..

take a look, it's public, anyone with account can edit..

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 10:27 +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> let's vote, but i never used both although i'm pretty comfortable with
> wiki so i'll vote for pbwiki
> 
> 2010/3/2 CL Chow 
> I think we have quite a few trac maestro here... come up come
> up, don't hide ;)
> 
> 
> but pbwiki is a good start ;)
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, nuhaa 
> wrote:
> i second trac!!!
> cool stuff
> 
> 
> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> http://cawanpink.net
> http://fosschix.my
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:30 AM, sweemeng ng
>  wrote:
> google wave bad idea, good for conversation
> and idea sharing, bad for something
> permanent. 
> pbwiki just nice. 
> 
> btw one shall steal from my blog for this
> project. you got my blessing
> i got some stuff written anyway
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, CL Chow
>  wrote:
> how about trac?
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:08 AM,
> Muhammad Hafiz
>  wrote:
> I'm up for Google Wave, if
> don't want to use the current
> hosting/domain/Joomla for
> OSDC.MY, still can create a
> group in Google, I guess, and
> also can do the mailing-list
> thingy :D Host for own-made
> WiKi also can, but I think not
> all people love and use WiKi
> to explore knowledge in the
> net world, I guess and just my
> own opinion. Sorry for the
> mistakes and good luck!
> 
> --
> Hafiz
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:36
> AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> 
> wrote:
> Old story. Each time
> we used own domain. We
> keep on losing the
> documentation when the
> owner not interest
> anymore or the domain
> expired and no one can
> renew it.
> 
> My suggestion is to
> register with
> Sourceforge and create
> a project.
> 
> http://sourceforge.net
> 
> Enable Mediawiki under
> Feature Settings.
> Example
> 
>

Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

pbwiki is now pbworks, isn't it?

if that's the case, im very worried.
I made one already to take a peek.
Sadly, there's no backup option - available for premium
Premium is instinctively paid service.

It's a disaster if a knowledge tank sunk and there's no backup available
around.

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 10:27 +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> let's vote, but i never used both although i'm pretty comfortable with
> wiki so i'll vote for pbwiki
> 
> 2010/3/2 CL Chow 
> I think we have quite a few trac maestro here... come up come
> up, don't hide ;)
> 
> 
> but pbwiki is a good start ;)
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, nuhaa 
> wrote:
> i second trac!!!
> cool stuff
> 
> 
> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> http://cawanpink.net
> http://fosschix.my
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:30 AM, sweemeng ng
>  wrote:
> google wave bad idea, good for conversation
> and idea sharing, bad for something
> permanent. 
> pbwiki just nice. 
> 
> btw one shall steal from my blog for this
> project. you got my blessing
> i got some stuff written anyway
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, CL Chow
>  wrote:
> how about trac?
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:08 AM,
> Muhammad Hafiz
>  wrote:
> I'm up for Google Wave, if
> don't want to use the current
> hosting/domain/Joomla for
> OSDC.MY, still can create a
> group in Google, I guess, and
> also can do the mailing-list
> thingy :D Host for own-made
> WiKi also can, but I think not
> all people love and use WiKi
> to explore knowledge in the
> net world, I guess and just my
> own opinion. Sorry for the
> mistakes and good luck!
> 
> --
> Hafiz
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:36
> AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> 
> wrote:
> Old story. Each time
> we used own domain. We
> keep on losing the
> documentation when the
> owner not interest
> anymore or the domain
> expired and no one can
> renew it.
> 
> My suggestion is to
> register with
> Sourceforge and create
> a project.
> 
> http://sourceforge.net
> 
> Enable Mediawiki under
> Feature Settings.
> E

Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

Any progress?

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 15:57 +0800, Mohd Hidzuan wrote:
> Ai Ai Sir.. as ur wish... my master.
> ...
> To follow the path, look to the master,
> follow the master, walk with the master,
> see through the master, become the master.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
>  wrote:
> Agree..
>  
> Forum/Bulletin Board etc is for chat, post anything that maybe
> leads to debate and lots of other things.. 
> we do have mailing list, other platform such as forum etc...
>  
> for this, is about HOW-TO and technical
> knowledge/notes/guide/reference, thats all..
>  
> i think just start something, even if we don't have
> self-hosted server, a free host is ok.. our concern is the
> content, 
>  
> so better in this few days we already decided where, and
> start...
>  
> too much argument, leads to nowhere..
> 
>      
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:34 AM, archayl 
> wrote:
> Since we are working on delivering knowledge, I
> suggest we'd better go
> with knowledge management system. It occurs to me that
> phpBB is not a
> knowledge management system. Correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:22 +0700, Sony wrote:
> > Yes, phpBB also sufficient, can upload, share,
> create sticky post,
> > simple for content creation, searchable, internal
> messaging, etc
> > etc :)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --
> > Sony AK
> > Technical Evangelist
> > Sony AK Knowledge Center
> > www.sony-ak.com
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, simpleLinux
> <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > yes, a phpBB, one of the free phpBB hosting
> can get at:
> > http://www.boardoo.com, try lah!
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Sony
> >  wrote:
> > Or perhaps using Web Forum platform?
> such as phpbb?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --
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> > Technical Evangelist
> > Sony AK Knowledge Center
> > www.sony-ak.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:08 AM,
> Muhammad Hafiz
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm up for Google Wave, if
> don't want to use
> > the current
> hosting/domain/Joomla for OSDC.MY,
> > still can create a group in
> Google, I guess,
> > and also can do the
> mailing-list thingy :D
> > Host for own-made WiKi also
> can, but I think
> > not all people love and use
> WiKi to explore
> > knowledge in the net world,
> I guess and just
> > my own opinion. Sorry for
> the mistakes and
> > good luck!
> >
> > --
> > Hafiz
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:36
> AM, Harisfazillah
> > Jamel
>  wrote:
> > Old story. Each time
>

Re: [osdcmy-public] FOSS.Org.My Meetups - March 2010

[archayl]

Is it possible for anyone to record with video or anything with this?
The topic is so interesting. Sadly, for Borneo folks like me, a bit
unfortunate as it is hard to attend this.

Thanks.

On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 09:57 -0600, Mohd Fazli Azran Abd Malek wrote:
> Good starting for FOSS.my . OSDC.my well you turn now
> 
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:38 AM, BRIAN RITCHIE
>  wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
>The FOSS.Org.MY Team has resumed their regular monthly
> meetup
> sessions for the year. We look forward to your attendance to
> further
> enable joint discussions and knowledge sharing between various
> Interest Groups. 1st Meetup details are below :
> 
> AGENDA
> 
> 
> 2:30pm - 2:45pm : Registration
> 2:45pm - 3:00pm : Opening by the organizer
> 3pm - 4pm : Talk by Victor Yap on "Open Source Software in
> Digital
> Content Creation"
> 4pm - 4:30pm : Lightning Talks (various)
> 4:30pm - 5:00pm: Breakout Session
> 
> Open Source Software in Digital Content Creation
> =
> 
> A general overview of OSS used in Digital Content Creation
> industries
> with a focus in animation production from small personal
> projects to
> Hollywood production.
> 
> About the Speaker
> ==
> 
> Victor Yap helps companies build cost-efficient production
> workflow
> for 3D animation. His current project migrates open source
> solutions,
> with programs like Blender to a constantly developing 3D
> animation
> environment. Blender is a strong open source contender to
> mainstream
> programs such as Maya and Softimage. Armed with an Electronic
> Arts
> degree and deeply involved with Open Source Software (OSS)
> development
> since 1996, he presently dedicates himself to using open
> source as a
> tool for digital content creation. True to the spirit of OSS,
> he wants
> to share his experiences, insights and knowledge with
> everyone.
> 
> Cost
> =
> 
> Free of charge
> 
> Where
> ==
> 
> iTrain (M) Sdn Bhd
> Unit E-7-1, Block E, Megan Avenue 1, 189 Jalan Tun Razak,
> 50400 Kuala
> Lumpur, Malaysia
> 
> When
> ==
> 
> 20th March 2010
> 
> Organizers
> =
> 
> More information (including map) available at
> http://foss.org.my/projects/meetups/march-2010
> You can also contact Izhar Firdaus at iz...@foss.org.my
> 
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

Since we are working on delivering knowledge, I suggest we'd better go
with knowledge management system. It occurs to me that phpBB is not a
knowledge management system. Correct me if I'm wrong.

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:22 +0700, Sony wrote:
> Yes, phpBB also sufficient, can upload, share, create sticky post,
> simple for content creation, searchable, internal messaging, etc
> etc :)
> 
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> www.sony-ak.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, a phpBB, one of the free phpBB hosting can get at:
> http://www.boardoo.com, try lah!
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Sony
>  wrote:
> Or perhaps using Web Forum platform? such as phpbb?
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Muhammad Hafiz
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm up for Google Wave, if don't want to use
> the current hosting/domain/Joomla for OSDC.MY,
> still can create a group in Google, I guess,
> and also can do the mailing-list thingy :D
> Host for own-made WiKi also can, but I think
> not all people love and use WiKi to explore
> knowledge in the net world, I guess and just
> my own opinion. Sorry for the mistakes and
> good luck!
> 
> --
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> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Harisfazillah
> Jamel  wrote:
> Old story. Each time we used own
> domain. We keep on losing the
> documentation when the owner not
> interest anymore or the domain
> expired and no one can renew it.
> 
> My suggestion is to register with
> Sourceforge and create a project.
> 
> http://sourceforge.net
> 
> Enable Mediawiki under Feature
> Settings. Example
> 
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/songketmail/index.php?title=Main_Page
> 
> Beware of spammer. I hate them. They
> spam the tracker.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Mohd
> Hidzuan  wrote:
> > Why must we use EXTERNAL HOST.. how
> about our domain?
> 
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

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On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 00:17 +0800, Mohd Hidzuan wrote:
> Why must we use EXTERNAL HOST.. how about our domain? 
> ...
> To follow the path, look to the master,
> follow the master, walk with the master,
> see through the master, become the master.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
> Try http://www.wikidot.com/
> 
> Free service.
> 
> Need to confirm can export XML
> 
> Another is KNOL
> 
> http://knol.google.com/k
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Sony
>  wrote:
> > Better self-hosted Wiki :)
> >
> 
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I second the 'our' domain suggestion.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

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On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 00:10 +0800, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote:
> Ok.. 
> 
> so let's start discuss about it, 
> 
> where to host etc2...
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Sony
>  wrote:
> Better self-hosted Wiki :)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> --
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> Technical Evangelist
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> www.sony-ak.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think we can start now..
> 
> so most of us think wiki is the best choice, then
> let's do it..
> 
> so that wiki should be:
> 
> 1- self-hosted
> 
> 2- freely hosted like pbwiki/pbworks
> 
> 
> any other options please tell..
> 
> we need to do it ASAP...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Mohd Hidzuan
>  wrote:
> So when can we start the engine...  seem
> everybody have agreed... :D
> 
> 
> ...
> To follow the path, look to the master,
> follow the master, walk with the master,
> see through the master, become the master.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:11 PM, CL Chow
>  wrote:
> lol
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM,
> sweemeng ng 
> wrote:
> or we just translate
> developerworks
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:04
> AM, archayl
>  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2010-02-28 at
>     22:56 +0430, Ahmad
> Arafat Abdullah wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010
> at 1:34 PM, archayl
> 
> wrote:
> > I suggest
> that we have quality
> control on the
> information.
> > Such as some
> > standards to
> follow. Not preventive
> on the information
> side,
> > only on
> > presentation
> on information.
> >
> > IMHO,
> quality matters when
> it came to attracting
> audience.
>  

Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 23:05 +0700, Sony wrote:
> Better self-hosted Wiki :)
> 
> Best regards,
> --
> Sony AK
> Technical Evangelist
> Sony AK Knowledge Center
> www.sony-ak.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
>  wrote:
> I think we can start now..
> 
> so most of us think wiki is the best choice, then let's do
> it..
> 
> so that wiki should be:
> 
> 1- self-hosted
> 
> 2- freely hosted like pbwiki/pbworks
> 
> 
> any other options please tell..
> 
> we need to do it ASAP...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Mohd Hidzuan
>  wrote:
> So when can we start the engine...  seem everybody
> have agreed... :D
> 
> 
> ...
> To follow the path, look to the master,
> follow the master, walk with the master,
> see through the master, become the master.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:11 PM, CL Chow
>  wrote:
> lol
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, sweemeng ng
>  wrote:
> or we just translate developerworks
>     
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:04 AM,
> archayl  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:56
>         +0430, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:34
> PM, archayl
>  wrote:
> > I suggest that we
> have quality control on the
> information.
> > Such as some
> > standards to follow.
> Not preventive on the
> information side,
> > only on
> > presentation on
> information.
> >
> > IMHO, quality
> matters when it came to
> attracting audience.
> > Users will
> > have trouble in
> digesting information if it is
> in a shape of
> > mess.
> >
> > And one more, is
> about abstraction. We should
> prepare
> > categories that
> > makes sense, and ask
> contributors to hook their
> documentation
> > in the
> > right categories.
> Search and navigation should
> be more easier
> > this way.
> >
> > I hope that this
> will not be ce

Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

So, where's the wiki page?

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 21:40 +0800, CL Chow wrote:
> precisely, can we start now instead when can we start...
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Mohd Hidzuan 
> wrote:
> So when can we start the engine...  seem everybody have
> agreed... :D
> 
> ...
> To follow the path, look to the master,
> follow the master, walk with the master,
> see through the master, become the master.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:11 PM, CL Chow 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> lol
> 
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, sweemeng ng
>  wrote:
> or we just translate developerworks
>     
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:04 AM, archayl
>  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:56 +0430,
>         Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:34 PM,
> archayl  wrote:
> > I suggest that we have
> quality control on the information.
> > Such as some
> > standards to follow. Not
> preventive on the information side,
> > only on
> > presentation on information.
> >
> > IMHO, quality matters when
> it came to attracting audience.
> > Users will
> > have trouble in digesting
> information if it is in a shape of
> > mess.
> >
> > And one more, is about
> abstraction. We should prepare
> > categories that
> > makes sense, and ask
> contributors to hook their
> documentation
> > in the
> > right categories. Search and
> navigation should be more easier
> > this way.
> >
> > I hope that this will not be
> centralized in terms of who can
> > contribute.
> > But we have to have some
> trusted party to oversee the quality
> > of the
> > article presentation.
> >
> > Just my 1 cent~
> >
> > p/s: can we have a 'bottom'
> posting style on this mailing list
> > instead
> > of 'top' posting?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quality is good for maintain the
> standards, but anyway for initial
> > start, it's better to gather and
> start, after that we can fix the
> > looks+presentation etc..
> >
> > No restriction on who can
&g

Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:56 +0430, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:34 PM, archayl  wrote:
> I suggest that we have quality control on the information.
> Such as some
> standards to follow. Not preventive on the information side,
> only on
> presentation on information.
> 
> IMHO, quality matters when it came to attracting audience.
> Users will
> have trouble in digesting information if it is in a shape of
> mess.
> 
> And one more, is about abstraction. We should prepare
> categories that
> makes sense, and ask contributors to hook their documentation
> in the
> right categories. Search and navigation should be more easier
> this way.
> 
> I hope that this will not be centralized in terms of who can
> contribute.
> But we have to have some trusted party to oversee the quality
> of the
> article presentation.
> 
> Just my 1 cent~
> 
> p/s: can we have a 'bottom' posting style on this mailing list
> instead
> of 'top' posting?
> 
> 
>  
>  
> Quality is good for maintain the standards, but anyway for initial
> start, it's better to gather and start, after that we can fix the
> looks+presentation etc..
>  
> No restriction on who can contribute, anyone can and free to share the
> knowledge..
>  
> i think wiki page is a good start...
>  
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Maybe we can just create an example page to give contributors a feel of
the article looks to prevent massive amount of different article flow.

Wiki page like wikibooks[1] is a neat information flow example. Just for
a viewing pleasure. Mediawiki should be sufficient for this project.

We have to start before the idea expires, tho...

[1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LPI_Linux_Certification


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Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

I suggest that we have quality control on the information. Such as some
standards to follow. Not preventive on the information side, only on
presentation on information.

IMHO, quality matters when it came to attracting audience. Users will
have trouble in digesting information if it is in a shape of mess.

And one more, is about abstraction. We should prepare categories that
makes sense, and ask contributors to hook their documentation in the
right categories. Search and navigation should be more easier this way.

I hope that this will not be centralized in terms of who can contribute.
But we have to have some trusted party to oversee the quality of the
article presentation.

Just my 1 cent~

p/s: can we have a 'bottom' posting style on this mailing list instead
of 'top' posting?

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 15:31 +0800, Mohd Hidzuan wrote:
> Bravo!!
> 
> Dicadangkan mula dengan BAHASA MELAYU.. lain daripada lain... untuk
> 1MALAYSIA..
> 
> ...
> To follow the path, look to the master,
> follow the master, walk with the master,
> see through the master, become the master.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:35 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
>  wrote:
> Anything will do, 
> as long as the thing is useful for some of newbies/others to
> grab the knowledge, and so on..
> 
> wiki or etc is ok, we look for the best, easiest thing to
> collaborate and contribute.
> 
> we can split it to some category like:
> 
> 1- Distro - FreeBSD, Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo
> etc2..
> This can rage from basic installation until details technical
> or hardware compatibilty, tips and tricks patch the kernel
> blablabla.. 
> 
> 
> 2- Apps - Apache, SAMBA, Proftpd, others
> 
> 3- Security - firewall ipf/pf/ipchains/iptables, IDS - Snort,
> others , Tripwire and other products,
> 
> 4- Others
> 
> 5- Links - links to other existing, new how-to from other
> site, useful tips from somewhere..
> For this, i think old how-to still useful and good to see+pay
> a tribute and respect to them, even from the past, 
> with their guide and how-to, bring us a better knowledge
> today 
> 
> 
> TQ  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Muhd Syazwan
>  wrote:
> rasanya kalau pakai unofficial webfeed ni boleh kot:-
> 
> 
> cuma tarik pakai Planet
> 
> Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
> this is for every one to consider
> 
> my team has had snippets of how-tos and guides
> on:
> 1. blogs
> 2. forums
> 3. project repo
> 4. e-mails
> 
> what we have now done starting from this year
> is to consolidate all those onto the company
> website blog (since the company pays for the
> team's salary) - so everything is in one place
> 
> eventually, we will put the whole content for
> the user / admin / technical manual online
> just like how drupal does it
> 
> for osdc.my, a more efficient approach is act
> like an aggregator with sections for guides,
> news, events, etc . and maybe by type of
> software. the oss communities / projects can
> then point this aggregrator to their
> respective feeds. publish once and get the
> information distributed over many sites
> 
> for my team, since the software and the
> documentation is free - attracting people to
> our services (implementation, customisation,
> support, training) is our livelihood, and 1
> way to attract them is for them to visit our
> website. creating links / content to point
> back to our website will be great.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:38 AM, CL Chow
>  > wrote:
> 
>  

Re: [osdcmy-public] Documentation projects, for all reference

[archayl]

Hi all (redundant greetings):

This is a bit awkward, top posting...

I second the suggestion. Somewhat I felt that this is for Malaysian
Developer (obviously stated in the name OSDC.my). This place should also
be good for students who wanted to join to find some help or experience,
and of course, Malaysian students. Maybe we should include some how-tos
and documentation in both Malay and English language. Just a suggestion.
But what is the most important, we should have a centralized docs, and
hopefully, this will wipe out redundancy, and override confusion (if
there's some clash in the info).

p/s: i hate redundancy.

Regards,
El

On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 06:58 +0800, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> for most of us know, some of us ( including me ) is doing rather
> How-to or some other documentation..
> 
> anyway this documentation is scattered everywhere, some is on personal
> webs, etc2..
> 
> so i would like to ask, that we collect all those links/docs to be
> centralised and can be some point/centre of reference in docs..
> 
> long time ago we can see it in drb-it, and other places written by our
> frens/enthusiast..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Even if some of us maybe didn't want to be grouped, or written it at
> the same host/place blablabla ( possibly because of some reason,
> maybe )
> it's ok for us to list the links to the docs/site for reference...
> 
> 
> just my idea and suggestion
> 
> 
> TQ
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> # uname -a
> NetBSD  5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009
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