Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Hahano worries man... Eric On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: OK noted. Sudah mengantuk lah Eric. :p On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Please put a comma between Novell and Oracle. We are not nor have been part of Oracle. :P Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Ok Stuju Agree 2011/1/9 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Dear all, Our target date for official lauching of OEC will be early March 2011. Date will be set later. I will call for meeting early Feb. This time will get all of us to get into the boat... Najah is our contact person for OEC. To Do :- 1) Online survey... We need to get more info regard to jobs thats related to OSS. I need to get this prepare by end of Feb 2011 - Need all the help like to pass the online survey to HR and Bosses. :) 2) We had Red Hat, MSU and Jobstreet during the first media interview. We do this as intel for us to know the interest of the parties. Look like they are willing to cooperate with us. And now we need to involved more, suggestion :- - Novell Oracle - UPM UTM UiTM - MAMPU JPM MDeC - Community leaders OSDC.my Ubuntu.my Fedora.my OpenSuse and more . (kita kan ramai) 3) From this email thread, we can compile action plan that we can discuss during the meeting on the day of the launch. lets see what we archive from meeting with all of them... Thats all for now... Thanks. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Soon This is only pre-launch to start the momentum. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Why wasn't Novell invited to the interview? Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- *Maui Sabily 2010* *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2010 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 ch...@thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Please put a comma between Novell and Oracle. We are not nor have been part of Oracle. :P Eric On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Our target date for official lauching of OEC will be early March 2011. Date will be set later. I will call for meeting early Feb. This time will get all of us to get into the boat... Najah is our contact person for OEC. To Do :- 1) Online survey... We need to get more info regard to jobs thats related to OSS. I need to get this prepare by end of Feb 2011 - Need all the help like to pass the online survey to HR and Bosses. :) 2) We had Red Hat, MSU and Jobstreet during the first media interview. We do this as intel for us to know the interest of the parties. Look like they are willing to cooperate with us. And now we need to involved more, suggestion :- - Novell Oracle - UPM UTM UiTM - MAMPU JPM MDeC - Community leaders OSDC.my Ubuntu.my Fedora.my OpenSuse and more . (kita kan ramai) 3) From this email thread, we can compile action plan that we can discuss during the meeting on the day of the launch. lets see what we archive from meeting with all of them... Thats all for now... Thanks. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Soon This is only pre-launch to start the momentum. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Why wasn't Novell invited to the interview? Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Dear all, Our target date for official lauching of OEC will be early March 2011. Date will be set later. I will call for meeting early Feb. This time will get all of us to get into the boat... Najah is our contact person for OEC. To Do :- 1) Online survey... We need to get more info regard to jobs thats related to OSS. I need to get this prepare by end of Feb 2011 - Need all the help like to pass the online survey to HR and Bosses. :) 2) We had Red Hat, MSU and Jobstreet during the first media interview. We do this as intel for us to know the interest of the parties. Look like they are willing to cooperate with us. And now we need to involved more, suggestion :- - Novell Oracle - UPM UTM UiTM - MAMPU JPM MDeC - Community leaders OSDC.my Ubuntu.my Fedora.my OpenSuse and more . (kita kan ramai) 3) From this email thread, we can compile action plan that we can discuss during the meeting on the day of the launch. lets see what we archive from meeting with all of them... Thats all for now... Thanks. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Soon This is only pre-launch to start the momentum. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Why wasn't Novell invited to the interview? Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Soon This is only pre-launch to start the momentum. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Why wasn't Novell invited to the interview? Eric On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, sure. The spokespersons :- • Mohd Fazli Azran of the Open Source Developers Club • Professor Dr. Md Gapar, Vice President, Faculty of Info Science Engineering, Management Science University • Dr. Albert Wong, Chief Technology Officer, Jobstreet Malaysia • Alan Ho, Senior Manager, Services Marketing, Red Hat APAC Media :- 1. PC.com 2. Berita Harian 3. New Straits Times 4. Harian Metro The objective of the media interview:- • Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. • Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. • Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. • Announce the formation of the Open Source Developers Community and its goals to ensure the healthy, sustainable and accredited growth of open source skill sets and professionals in Malaysia. Fazli Azran explained on OSDC.my, recent activities and what’s OSDC.my’s planning. There is an urgent need to increase the number of accredited open source professionals in the industry to meet growing demands. The establishment of the Open Source Development Community serves to ensure that the quality of open source professionals is not compromised by establishing set standards which are agreed upon by acadamia, industry players as well as the open source community itself. Prof Gapar elaboration on the concept of open source and what are the benefits of it. There is a high demand in OSS. MSU’s OSS implementation in their education syllabus. Dr Albert explains more on the supply and demand in OSS. Reseach by Jobstreet indicates that there is a definite increase in demand amongst employers for graduates and professionals who have undergone specific technical skills training in open source, virtualization and cloud computing, which marks an important shift in human capital demand in the IT industry. Dr Albert also mention Jobstreet as a case study where Jobstreet also use Open Source Technology. Alan Ho explains on Red Hat’s involvement in the OSS community. Technical skills like IT training and certification add value to the marketability of IT graduates and professionals alike. The needs of small and medium company, large company etc. Virtualization and cloud. Well, this is just a part of the discussion. Will spare some time to update more. Regards, Yun On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks yun and OSS friends for arranging this. Can you provide notes what had been discuss during the press interview? Who attending? Today is the starting point for more from companies, government agencies, universities and community them self to join and establish official OEC for our platform and forum to discuss and lobbying OSS education. We need to have TT session with others in our community to help us making this happen. Thanks. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, we are currently in a media interview to promote this. the spokes persons are from osdc.my(community), jobstreet(HR professional), MSU (education) and Redhat(oss vendor). will update on the details later. :) Yun On 12/13/10, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Why wasn't Novell invited to the interview? Eric On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, sure. The spokespersons :- • Mohd Fazli Azran of the Open Source Developers Club • Professor Dr. Md Gapar, Vice President, Faculty of Info Science Engineering, Management Science University • Dr. Albert Wong, Chief Technology Officer, Jobstreet Malaysia • Alan Ho, Senior Manager, Services Marketing, Red Hat APAC Media :- 1. PC.com 2. Berita Harian 3. New Straits Times 4. Harian Metro The objective of the media interview:- • Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. • Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. • Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. • Announce the formation of the Open Source Developers Community and its goals to ensure the healthy, sustainable and accredited growth of open source skill sets and professionals in Malaysia. Fazli Azran explained on OSDC.my, recent activities and what’s OSDC.my’s planning. There is an urgent need to increase the number of accredited open source professionals in the industry to meet growing demands. The establishment of the Open Source Development Community serves to ensure that the quality of open source professionals is not compromised by establishing set standards which are agreed upon by acadamia, industry players as well as the open source community itself. Prof Gapar elaboration on the concept of open source and what are the benefits of it. There is a high demand in OSS. MSU’s OSS implementation in their education syllabus. Dr Albert explains more on the supply and demand in OSS. Reseach by Jobstreet indicates that there is a definite increase in demand amongst employers for graduates and professionals who have undergone specific technical skills training in open source, virtualization and cloud computing, which marks an important shift in human capital demand in the IT industry. Dr Albert also mention Jobstreet as a case study where Jobstreet also use Open Source Technology. Alan Ho explains on Red Hat’s involvement in the OSS community. Technical skills like IT training and certification add value to the marketability of IT graduates and professionals alike. The needs of small and medium company, large company etc. Virtualization and cloud. Well, this is just a part of the discussion. Will spare some time to update more. Regards, Yun On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks yun and OSS friends for arranging this. Can you provide notes what had been discuss during the press interview? Who attending? Today is the starting point for more from companies, government agencies, universities and community them self to join and establish official OEC for our platform and forum to discuss and lobbying OSS education. We need to have TT session with others in our community to help us making this happen. Thanks. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, we are currently in a media interview to promote this. the spokes persons are from osdc.my(community), jobstreet(HR professional), MSU (education) and Redhat(oss vendor). will update on the details later. :) Yun On 12/13/10, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC) Objective Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Yup, sure. The spokespersons :- • Mohd Fazli Azran of the Open Source Developers Club • Professor Dr. Md Gapar, Vice President, Faculty of Info Science Engineering, Management Science University • Dr. Albert Wong, Chief Technology Officer, Jobstreet Malaysia • Alan Ho, Senior Manager, Services Marketing, Red Hat APAC Media :- 1. PC.com 2. Berita Harian 3. New Straits Times 4. Harian Metro The objective of the media interview:- • Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. • Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. • Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. • Announce the formation of the Open Source Developers Community and its goals to ensure the healthy, sustainable and accredited growth of open source skill sets and professionals in Malaysia. Fazli Azran explained on OSDC.my, recent activities and what’s OSDC.my’s planning. There is an urgent need to increase the number of accredited open source professionals in the industry to meet growing demands. The establishment of the Open Source Development Community serves to ensure that the quality of open source professionals is not compromised by establishing set standards which are agreed upon by acadamia, industry players as well as the open source community itself. Prof Gapar elaboration on the concept of open source and what are the benefits of it. There is a high demand in OSS. MSU’s OSS implementation in their education syllabus. Dr Albert explains more on the supply and demand in OSS. Reseach by Jobstreet indicates that there is a definite increase in demand amongst employers for graduates and professionals who have undergone specific technical skills training in open source, virtualization and cloud computing, which marks an important shift in human capital demand in the IT industry. Dr Albert also mention Jobstreet as a case study where Jobstreet also use Open Source Technology. Alan Ho explains on Red Hat’s involvement in the OSS community. Technical skills like IT training and certification add value to the marketability of IT graduates and professionals alike. The needs of small and medium company, large company etc. Virtualization and cloud. Well, this is just a part of the discussion. Will spare some time to update more. Regards, Yun On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks yun and OSS friends for arranging this. Can you provide notes what had been discuss during the press interview? Who attending? Today is the starting point for more from companies, government agencies, universities and community them self to join and establish official OEC for our platform and forum to discuss and lobbying OSS education. We need to have TT session with others in our community to help us making this happen. Thanks. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, we are currently in a media interview to promote this. the spokes persons are from osdc.my(community), jobstreet(HR professional), MSU (education) and Redhat(oss vendor). will update on the details later. :) Yun On 12/13/10, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC) Objective Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
[osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC) Objective Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
I will have some vacation time coming up. Training...hmmm...right up my alley. Haris should know.:-P How can I help? Eric On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC) Objective Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
OK thanks. Fazli and I will call for teh tarik session soon. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Consider that 1) I do work in a industry, 2) I use open source tools 3) and loving the tools. Count me in On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: I will have some vacation time coming up. Training...hmmm...right up my alley. Haris should know.:-P How can I help? Eric -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
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Roger that. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: one up :) Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
hi all, I think we got to cast our net wider or maybe deeper... our whole edu system sucks becos we are too involved in a 'paper chase' - how many A's you got, what degree you got, etc... and little on actual hands on, problem solving skills. (b4 posting this, I read thru it again and the 1st 4 para sound like a rant, which it is, but I decide to leave it in here as it provides the reasoning for the later suggestions. If you want to skip the rant, go to para 5, its marked by a '---' ) The key thing here is; if you want to develop a skill, you gottta get your hands dirty! If your'e a carpenter, you work with wood and tools, get some cuts, maybe bang your own hand with a hammer a few times... or if a mechanic/engineer, you get your hands covered in oil and grease, lying under a car... or if youre a veterinarian, you stick your arm up a cow's a** (apparently its a rite of initiation for them..) and if you do it enough times you get to become good at what you do. the key word here is 'hands on, problem solving skills'. Not theory, not certificates etc... yes the training and certification may help, but what is more important getting your hands dirty, and in IT, for programmers, it means hacking code, for SysAdmins it means setting up firewalls, servers maybe even building them... and for Network Engineers, it means pulling and crimping cables and setting up routers, etc... and you will only do this if you have a passion for it - becos its hard work! I'll like to be corrected, but my opinion is that the current batch of IT graduates (last 5-10 yrs?) have it cushy, they think they can graduate and get a nice well paid easy job and not have to do any hard work... they think the hard work is passing the exams and doing the (cut paste?) assignments.. and they 'deserve' the easy job. Blame that on the last 2 decades of 5% + growth, and our the degree mill universities for churning out the numbers to meet quotas and PKI - quantity w/o quality. Sorry the rest of the world doesn't work that way. Were facing global competition now... our ASEAN neighbour are getting more competitive, and unless we change, we gonna be left behind in the 'e-dust of the K-economy' (TM)! ! #--- So enough for ranting... I just want to pose this question: for a potential employer, which of the following candidates would be preferred: 1. IT Graduate with straight A's in pre U, good GPA, did a course with all the 'correct' subjects in its syllabus. Maybe has a few proff. certs. MCSE?!, CNE... 2. Non-IT Graduate, but somehow got interested and taught himself programming. Has done a few freelance projects/websites on his own, has a passion for programming and has a few pet projects going ever since he's in Uni. 3. IT or non IT Grad, is an active code contributor to one or more FOSS projects for a year or so. Is active in online discussions and forums, and helps provide support for others. May or may not also have done some freelance work. I dunno about you, but I will pick 2 or 3 over 1 anytime! And I have met quite a few in the M'sian FOSS community that fall into 2 or 3. The point I'm trying to make is, these students have to have FOSS projects to work on, to get their hands dirty!. And here are a few suggestions: (aside from the regular training and certification stuff) 1. OSDC 'sponsor' a few FOSS projects. Meaning they initiate it, perhaps look for actual sponsors, do something like Google SOC, maybe for longer than 1 semester... and I can think of quite a few projects, all kickass interesting and some even commercially viable. 2. Have a mentoring program, more senior/knowledgable guys from the industry (could be MNC, freelancer, etc.. but involved in FOSS) to lead the rookies, challenge them, make them think different. (I'll be game for this...) 3. Maybe help the students get academic credits if they get involve in projects like this. 4. Have some sort of online infra for doing all this... forums, groupware coordination, online courseware etc... I can think of a few FOSS apps that already can do this, and setting this up can itself be a worth while 'project'. ... probably more ideas... ... so what say you guys... are we game? If we gonna do something, do something really different, bold and meaningful, not MORE OF THE SAME THING! Count me in on yr teh tarik, and better still get MDEC involved too... On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Roger that. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: one up :) Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577
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On 12/14/10 5:40 AM, Boh Yap wrote: 1. IT Graduate with straight A's in pre U, good GPA, did a course with all the 'correct' subjects in its syllabus. Maybe has a few proff. certs. MCSE?!, CNE... 2. Non-IT Graduate, but somehow got interested and taught himself programming. Has done a few freelance projects/websites on his own, has a passion for programming and has a few pet projects going ever since he's in Uni. 3. IT or non IT Grad, is an active code contributor to one or more FOSS projects for a year or so. Is active in online discussions and forums, and helps provide support for others. May or may not also have done some freelance work. It is 3 for me. If a person does not get involve and be visible, he or she is most likely: a. Lansee like shit. Too busy to spend time on your passion? Or you re busy polishing your new cert? I agree with Boh, only makes them more lansee. b. Been an active code contributor tells me in 7 seconds what he or she is made off. Don't waste my time listening to how you really did your high school project all on your own cos they re mostly lies. No words apply. Just show me the code. Not through attachments. Must be googleable. c. Not living in the real world. Today, the 'talibans' of FOSS rules. Not mercenaries. Count me in on yr teh tarik, and better still get MDEC involved too... Speaking of mercenaries, i just came back from Chulalongkorn U, BKK and actively called up by some state govt and contractors and after my presentation, they often remarked, What is MDec doing about your wonderful contribution?. I often ask them to google too to find out if MDec is interested in anything further than bloated property sales. (I also found out that our words here are googleable. So that is nice. 'Now everyone can fly', i mean read :) ) -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Hi all, we are currently in a media interview to promote this. the spokes persons are from osdc.my(community), jobstreet(HR professional), MSU (education) and Redhat(oss vendor). will update on the details later. :) Yun On 12/13/10, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC) Objective Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
