Re: [osg-users] Planning for upcoming OpenSceneGraph 2.6 release

2008-07-01 Thread Mike Weiblen
Hi Robert,

I'll be building them over the next couple days (holiday weekend
travel etc).  I'll check the new binaries into the osgToy SVN, we can
then decide how to integrate into OSG and CMake.  I'll let you know
when ready.

I'm curious if anyone has experience with those new versions, and if
anyone has opinions pro/con on moving to them?  Also, are there any
other packages to be updated that I've missed?

thanks
-- mew



On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Robert Osfield
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 Hi Mike,

 Updating the Cmake dependencies should be pretty straight forward, I
 guess the first step is to get these dependencies building, then
 update the dependency checks.  Do you have any idea how long it might
 take to get things updated?

 Robert.

 On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Mike Weiblen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wrt planning for OSG 2.6, I notice several of the upstream
 dependencies have advanced since my last 3rdParty binary build.

 Specifically:
 - libpng 1.2.29
 - freetype 2.3.7
 - curl 7.18.2
 - gdal 1.5.2

 I suppose it would be good to update those, but my main concern is
 updating the CMake dependency search to find the new versions.

 Thoughts?
 -- mew


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Re: [osg-users] Planning for upcoming OpenSceneGraph 2.6 release

2008-06-30 Thread Mike Weiblen
wrt planning for OSG 2.6, I notice several of the upstream
dependencies have advanced since my last 3rdParty binary build.

Specifically:
- libpng 1.2.29
- freetype 2.3.7
- curl 7.18.2
- gdal 1.5.2

I suppose it would be good to update those, but my main concern is
updating the CMake dependency search to find the new versions.

Thoughts?
-- mew



On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay
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 Hi Robert,

 Regarding ScreenCaptureHandler,

 I haven't had a chance to look at it properly yet, been rather blown
 away with general submissions/support work.  If you have any updates
 then please post them and I can have another look this week.

 Right now it's pretty much a straight conversion of the osgscreencapture
 example into an EventHandler. Though it seems slower for some reason. But
 other than that, I think it would be sufficient for a first version. Your
 comments would be appreciated, both regarding its fitness for inclusion, and
 regarding the general direction (things that could be added in the near
 future).

 All in all, it's not a big thing, and will probably take you all of 15
 minutes to review, but I think it would be an interesting addition.

 Testing osgWidgets out prior to merge would be useful.  If it is to
 make it then it'll need to compile cleanly across all platforms, if it
 doesn't work perfectly across it's feature set or is not feature
 complete I won't be worried - we can always roll 2.6 with a partially
 complete osgWidget and make it clear to the community that it's a work
 in progress, with API still in flux.

 Last I checked, it built and ran fine on both platforms I have access to:
 Windows and Linux. Jeremy might have some comments on feature set, but I
 personally think it's ready for a first inclusion and then work from there.

 Let me check again on Windows, just to make sure (Jeremy tests less often on
 Windows if I recall correctly), but barring any major problems, I'd
 definitely go for including it in 2.6.

 Thanks,

 J-S
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Re: [osg-users] Planning for upcoming OpenSceneGraph 2.6 release

2008-06-30 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Mike,

Updating the Cmake dependencies should be pretty straight forward, I
guess the first step is to get these dependencies building, then
update the dependency checks.  Do you have any idea how long it might
take to get things updated?

Robert.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Mike Weiblen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wrt planning for OSG 2.6, I notice several of the upstream
 dependencies have advanced since my last 3rdParty binary build.

 Specifically:
 - libpng 1.2.29
 - freetype 2.3.7
 - curl 7.18.2
 - gdal 1.5.2

 I suppose it would be good to update those, but my main concern is
 updating the CMake dependency search to find the new versions.

 Thoughts?
 -- mew



 On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Robert,

 Regarding ScreenCaptureHandler,

 I haven't had a chance to look at it properly yet, been rather blown
 away with general submissions/support work.  If you have any updates
 then please post them and I can have another look this week.

 Right now it's pretty much a straight conversion of the osgscreencapture
 example into an EventHandler. Though it seems slower for some reason. But
 other than that, I think it would be sufficient for a first version. Your
 comments would be appreciated, both regarding its fitness for inclusion, and
 regarding the general direction (things that could be added in the near
 future).

 All in all, it's not a big thing, and will probably take you all of 15
 minutes to review, but I think it would be an interesting addition.

 Testing osgWidgets out prior to merge would be useful.  If it is to
 make it then it'll need to compile cleanly across all platforms, if it
 doesn't work perfectly across it's feature set or is not feature
 complete I won't be worried - we can always roll 2.6 with a partially
 complete osgWidget and make it clear to the community that it's a work
 in progress, with API still in flux.

 Last I checked, it built and ran fine on both platforms I have access to:
 Windows and Linux. Jeremy might have some comments on feature set, but I
 personally think it's ready for a first inclusion and then work from there.

 Let me check again on Windows, just to make sure (Jeremy tests less often on
 Windows if I recall correctly), but barring any major problems, I'd
 definitely go for including it in 2.6.

 Thanks,

 J-S
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Re: [osg-users] Planning for upcoming OpenSceneGraph 2.6 release

2008-06-30 Thread Jeremy Moles
WTF! I just saw this thread! :)

On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 19:51 -0400, Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote:
 Hi Robert,
 
 Regarding ScreenCaptureHandler,
  I haven't had a chance to look at it properly yet, been rather blown
  away with general submissions/support work.  If you have any updates
  then please post them and I can have another look this week.
 
 Right now it's pretty much a straight conversion of the osgscreencapture 
 example into an EventHandler. Though it seems slower for some reason. 
 But other than that, I think it would be sufficient for a first version. 
 Your comments would be appreciated, both regarding its fitness for 
 inclusion, and regarding the general direction (things that could be 
 added in the near future).
 
 All in all, it's not a big thing, and will probably take you all of 15 
 minutes to review, but I think it would be an interesting addition.
 
  Testing osgWidgets out prior to merge would be useful.  If it is to
  make it then it'll need to compile cleanly across all platforms, if it
  doesn't work perfectly across it's feature set or is not feature
  complete I won't be worried - we can always roll 2.6 with a partially
  complete osgWidget and make it clear to the community that it's a work
  in progress, with API still in flux.
 
 Last I checked, it built and ran fine on both platforms I have access 
 to: Windows and Linux. Jeremy might have some comments on feature set, 
 but I personally think it's ready for a first inclusion and then work 
 from there.

I can barely compile stuff on Windows, so it's always an ordeal when I
test osgWidget there. BUT, I do have folks that send me e-mail about one
thing or another not working in Windows, and I try and fix them ASAP.

 Let me check again on Windows, just to make sure (Jeremy tests less 
 often on Windows if I recall correctly), but barring any major problems, 
 I'd definitely go for including it in 2.6.
 
 Thanks,
 
 J-S

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[osg-users] Planning for upcoming OpenSceneGraph 2.6 release

2008-06-29 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi All,

Now I've tagged the OpenSceneGraph-2.5.3 dev release, I'm looking
ahead to the 2.6 release.  I would like this out before Siggraph, a
date in July being something that would probably be good to aim for.
What date to aim for will depend upon availability of users on
different platforms to do testing and get the software ground down and
ready.

I personally have a 1 week holiday at the end of July booked, and will
take another week off, perhaps in July or August.  Work wise I will
complete the kd-tree support that I begun earlier this month prior to
2.6, and as long as support doesn't go on being crazy likes the last
month then I should have this finished in the next week.  Once this is
in SVN, I'm happy to stick with a feature freeze for 2.6 and then go
for the release.

This of course is just my own personal perspective, I need feedback
from the community on availability, dates for a release that would
work/wouldn't work for you, submissions that you plan to make and
would to make it in to 2.6.  Originally I have planned to get
osgWidget integrated for 2.6, but I've been rather swept off my feet
with work so haven't been able to push this forward, potentially if
it's deemed useful and ready enough as is then we could go still for
integration prior to 2.6.

The conservative thing to do would be to make a feature freeze pretty
soon, and leave out significant additions till after 2.6, this reduces
the risk and the time required to get 2.6 out the door.  The more
ambitious would be to be integrate other additions prior to 2.6, but
this ups the risks and pushes the likely release date till later.
Noting integrating features till after 2.6 does mean that it'll be
another 4 or so months before there will be another window to get
these items integrated to a stable release.  Thoughts on this?

As a general note, I'm happy to see the point releases go 2.6, 2.8,
2.10, 2.12, 2.14 in a relatively short order for the 2.x series.
Going for a 3.x would be something that would require a significant
new platform or architecture, this era of development is something to
pontificate on, but it's not something I see as near term, and isn't
something I've started planning for.

Robert.
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Re: [osg-users] Planning for upcoming OpenSceneGraph 2.6 release

2008-06-29 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay

Hi Robert,


This of course is just my own personal perspective, I need feedback
from the community on availability, dates for a release that would
work/wouldn't work for you, submissions that you plan to make and
would to make it in to 2.6.


I will be available until Siggraph (my vacation weeks are booked for the 
weeks after). I'll be glad to test on Win32 and Linux as always.


Regarding submissions, did you have a chance to look at the first cut of 
the ScreenCaptureHandler I sent in a few weeks ago? It's pretty bare 
bones but I'd like to get feedback before moving forward any more on it. 
I didn't send it thinking it would be merged at this point, just looking 
to get feedback. And considering the number of times it's been asked 
lately on the list (how to take a screenshot), I think it would be a 
good addition.



Originally I have planned to get
osgWidget integrated for 2.6, but I've been rather swept off my feet
with work so haven't been able to push this forward, potentially if
it's deemed useful and ready enough as is then we could go still for
integration prior to 2.6.


I think it would be a very good thing to get integrated so it can be 
more widely used and tested, the sooner the better. Again I'll be glad 
to do any testing required.


Looking forward to 2.6,

J-S
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Re: [osg-users] Planning for upcoming OpenSceneGraph 2.6 release

2008-06-29 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay

Hi Robert,

Regarding ScreenCaptureHandler,

I haven't had a chance to look at it properly yet, been rather blown
away with general submissions/support work.  If you have any updates
then please post them and I can have another look this week.


Right now it's pretty much a straight conversion of the osgscreencapture 
example into an EventHandler. Though it seems slower for some reason. 
But other than that, I think it would be sufficient for a first version. 
Your comments would be appreciated, both regarding its fitness for 
inclusion, and regarding the general direction (things that could be 
added in the near future).


All in all, it's not a big thing, and will probably take you all of 15 
minutes to review, but I think it would be an interesting addition.



Testing osgWidgets out prior to merge would be useful.  If it is to
make it then it'll need to compile cleanly across all platforms, if it
doesn't work perfectly across it's feature set or is not feature
complete I won't be worried - we can always roll 2.6 with a partially
complete osgWidget and make it clear to the community that it's a work
in progress, with API still in flux.


Last I checked, it built and ran fine on both platforms I have access 
to: Windows and Linux. Jeremy might have some comments on feature set, 
but I personally think it's ready for a first inclusion and then work 
from there.


Let me check again on Windows, just to make sure (Jeremy tests less 
often on Windows if I recall correctly), but barring any major problems, 
I'd definitely go for including it in 2.6.


Thanks,

J-S
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