Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Including gvSIG on OSGeo4W
Hi Juergen, [...] >> The problem with java is that one xml library of it conflicts with some other >> package and it has been suggested in the past that java would therefore be >> installed as an application. > > Right, see also http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/441 Yes, that is the one I was referring to. >> That is the problem and should be first discussed. I am not sure who >> makes use of java-gdal bindings in osgeo4w, but several have stated >> that a "general" java might give problems with other packages. >> It might be good to check who still depends on java and evaluate if it >> is better to insert java in the gvSIG installation. > > I suppose no one does - neither the (outdated) gdal nor the (uptodate) > mapscript bindings. Then maybe while I help Cesar to take over, I will also remove java and add it back as/in the app, so that it stops causing troubles to the other packages. Andrea > > > Jürgen > > -- > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de > QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode > > ___ > osgeo4w-dev mailing list > osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev ___ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Including gvSIG on OSGeo4W
Hi Andrea, On Thu, 26. Nov 2015 at 17:11:32 +0100, andrea antonello wrote: > I will jump in as previous uDig and java maintainer for some clarification. > java is still there because I thought other projects would use it. But > it is in great shape, i.e. works properly. Ah, sorry, I didn't know. > The problem with java is that one xml library of it conflicts with some other > package and it has been suggested in the past that java would therefore be > installed as an application. Right, see also http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/441 > That is the problem and should be first discussed. I am not sure who > makes use of java-gdal bindings in osgeo4w, but several have stated > that a "general" java might give problems with other packages. > It might be good to check who still depends on java and evaluate if it > is better to insert java in the gvSIG installation. I suppose no one does - neither the (outdated) gdal nor the (uptodate) mapscript bindings. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Including gvSIG on OSGeo4W
Hi César, On Thu, 26. Nov 2015 at 17:14:56 +0100, César Martínez wrote: > Thanks Jürgen for the quick answer. Some more questions: > - Where can I check which packages are currently included (e.g. the > Java packages you mentioned)? There is a package listing on https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/PackageListing The generated lists are produced from the setup.ini that is created from the setup.hint files that go along with the package files. Those are in http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/x86/setup.ini for 32bit and http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/x86_64/setup.ini for 64bit. That also includes on what other packages each packages depends. PackagingInstructions also have instructions how to invoke the setup.ini updates. > - Is it necessary a new version of OSGeo4W needed in order to add the > gvSIG packages? Or are they automatically available if published on > the OSGeo4W repository? No, adding the packages and updating the setup.ini should be enough. The installer retrieves that current setup.ini and works with it. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Including gvSIG on OSGeo4W
That would be great Andrea. I'll search for you :-) César 2015-11-26 17:11 GMT+01:00 andrea antonello : > Hi Jürgen, Cesar, > >>> Hi, I am Cesar Martinez Izquierdo, from the gvSIG development team. >>> We are interested on including gvSIG on the OSGeo4W distribution. >>> Is there any specific requirement to do so (in addition to prepare a >>> packaging as described on [1])? >> >> No, but I'm not sure of the state java and dependencies are in. I think it >> was introduced for udig and beegis, which were meanwhile removed. java is >> still there, but probably in a bad shape. > > I will jump in as previous uDig and java maintainer for some clarification. > java is still there because I thought other projects would use it. But > it is in great shape, i.e. works properly. > > The problem with java is that one xml library of it conflicts with > some other package and it has been suggested in the past that java > would therefore be installed as an application. > I didn't do it, because at that time I was withdrawing the uDig > packages anyways and though that the next maintainer of java would do > that. > >> The gdal java bindings are currently unmaintained too and I'm not sure if >> anyone uses the java mapscript bindings. >> >> And that's all the java support there is. I guess you have to also adopt >> java >> if you want to add gvsig - preferable in a way that other stuff can also make >> of it (eg. to bring back gdal-java). > > That is the problem and should be first discussed. I am not sure who > makes use of java-gdal bindings in osgeo4w, but several have stated > that a "general" java might give problems with other packages. > It might be good to check who still depends on java and evaluate if it > is better to insert java in the gvSIG installation. > > Cesar, if you are at the gvSIG conference next week, we can take a > moment and I can help you to create the first gvSIG package and show > you how it is done. > > Best regards, > Andrea > > > >> >> >> Jürgen >> >> -- >> Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 >> Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 >> Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de >> QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode >> >> ___ >> osgeo4w-dev mailing list >> osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev > ___ > osgeo4w-dev mailing list > osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev -- SCOLAB http://scolab.es ___ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Including gvSIG on OSGeo4W
Thanks Jürgen for the quick answer. Some more questions: - Where can I check which packages are currently included (e.g. the Java packages you mentioned)? - Is it necessary a new version of OSGeo4W needed in order to add the gvSIG packages? Or are they automatically available if published on the OSGeo4W repository? César 2015-11-26 16:53 GMT+01:00 Jürgen E. : > Hi César, > > On Thu, 26. Nov 2015 at 15:56:39 +0100, César Martínez wrote: >> Hi, I am Cesar Martinez Izquierdo, from the gvSIG development team. >> We are interested on including gvSIG on the OSGeo4W distribution. >> Is there any specific requirement to do so (in addition to prepare a >> packaging as described on [1])? > > No, but I'm not sure of the state java and dependencies are in. I think it > was introduced for udig and beegis, which were meanwhile removed. java is > still there, but probably in a bad shape. > > The gdal java bindings are currently unmaintained too and I'm not sure if > anyone uses the java mapscript bindings. > > And that's all the java support there is. I guess you have to also adopt java > if you want to add gvsig - preferable in a way that other stuff can also make > of it (eg. to bring back gdal-java). > > > Jürgen > > -- > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de > QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode > > ___ > osgeo4w-dev mailing list > osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev -- SCOLAB http://scolab.es ___ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Including gvSIG on OSGeo4W
Hi Jürgen, Cesar, >> Hi, I am Cesar Martinez Izquierdo, from the gvSIG development team. >> We are interested on including gvSIG on the OSGeo4W distribution. >> Is there any specific requirement to do so (in addition to prepare a >> packaging as described on [1])? > > No, but I'm not sure of the state java and dependencies are in. I think it > was introduced for udig and beegis, which were meanwhile removed. java is > still there, but probably in a bad shape. I will jump in as previous uDig and java maintainer for some clarification. java is still there because I thought other projects would use it. But it is in great shape, i.e. works properly. The problem with java is that one xml library of it conflicts with some other package and it has been suggested in the past that java would therefore be installed as an application. I didn't do it, because at that time I was withdrawing the uDig packages anyways and though that the next maintainer of java would do that. > The gdal java bindings are currently unmaintained too and I'm not sure if > anyone uses the java mapscript bindings. > > And that's all the java support there is. I guess you have to also adopt java > if you want to add gvsig - preferable in a way that other stuff can also make > of it (eg. to bring back gdal-java). That is the problem and should be first discussed. I am not sure who makes use of java-gdal bindings in osgeo4w, but several have stated that a "general" java might give problems with other packages. It might be good to check who still depends on java and evaluate if it is better to insert java in the gvSIG installation. Cesar, if you are at the gvSIG conference next week, we can take a moment and I can help you to create the first gvSIG package and show you how it is done. Best regards, Andrea > > > Jürgen > > -- > Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 > Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 > Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de > QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode > > ___ > osgeo4w-dev mailing list > osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev ___ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Including gvSIG on OSGeo4W
Hi César, On Thu, 26. Nov 2015 at 15:56:39 +0100, César Martínez wrote: > Hi, I am Cesar Martinez Izquierdo, from the gvSIG development team. > We are interested on including gvSIG on the OSGeo4W distribution. > Is there any specific requirement to do so (in addition to prepare a > packaging as described on [1])? No, but I'm not sure of the state java and dependencies are in. I think it was introduced for udig and beegis, which were meanwhile removed. java is still there, but probably in a bad shape. The gdal java bindings are currently unmaintained too and I'm not sure if anyone uses the java mapscript bindings. And that's all the java support there is. I guess you have to also adopt java if you want to add gvsig - preferable in a way that other stuff can also make of it (eg. to bring back gdal-java). Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13 Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS release manager (PSC) GermanyIRC: jef on FreeNode signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ osgeo4w-dev mailing list osgeo4w-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev
