Re: [OSList] Agile-in-OpenSpace videos

[Jan Höglund via OSList]

François - I'm also a lurker, an introvert, and, in addition, an Open Space 
newbie.

I'll for sure take a closer look at what Daniel is doing! I'd also love to hear 
more about what you and Martin are doing.

Following this community has inspired me to start taking small baby steps in 
opening space. I've also started to dream BIG. There's a full day 'strategy' 
event at my company which is repeated every six months, and where everyone is 
invited. It's run in the traditional way with a prepared agenda and all that... 
I am supposed to 'facilitate' the event. I'll do it first time in April.

My dream would be to Open the Space, but I'm not sure how to get there. I guess 
my questions are: Has anyone on this list used Open Spaces as a 'heart beat' in 
their organizations? How did you get started? What are your experiences?

Thanks,
Jan Höglund
Sweden

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Re: [OSList] Agile-in-OpenSpace videos

[Eva P Svensson via OSList]

Hej Jan!
Great that you came out of  the ”lurking area” - I’ll say - Just go for it - 
and if you want - just give me a call or an e-mail, and I will try to help you 
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Looking forward to hear from you!
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> 23 mar 2015 kl. 08:38 skrev Jan Höglund via OSList 
> :
> 
> François - I'm also a lurker, an introvert, and, in addition, an Open Space 
> newbie.
> 
> I'll for sure take a closer look at what Daniel is doing! I'd also love to 
> hear more about what you and Martin are doing.
> 
> Following this community has inspired me to start taking small baby steps in 
> opening space. I've also started to dream BIG. There's a full day 'strategy' 
> event at my company which is repeated every six months, and where everyone is 
> invited. It's run in the traditional way with a prepared agenda and all 
> that... I am supposed to 'facilitate' the event. I'll do it first time in 
> April.
> 
> My dream would be to Open the Space, but I'm not sure how to get there. I 
> guess my questions are: Has anyone on this list used Open Spaces as a 'heart 
> beat' in their organizations? How did you get started? What are your 
> experiences?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jan Höglund
> Sweden
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Re: [OSList] Agile-in-OpenSpace videos

[Daniel Mezick via OSList]

Wow Francois, thanks for your post here.

Readers might want to also know:

1. "Open Smart Adoption" as defined by Francois and Martin is an 
open-source derivation of Prime/OS, described here: 
http://newtechusa.net/prime/prime-core-elements/. It is based on 
Prime/OS. Francois, Martin and I have been collaborating for months on 
their derivation and work.


2. Prime-OS is "open-source culture-technology" - anyone anywhere can 
take it, use it, modify it, improve it, make derivations, publish those 
derivations, and commercialize them. Like any open source stuff. Have at 
it !


3. Open Agile Adoption came first. Then- SURPRISE. Whoops. I got calls 
from people in Europe who were using the method for gently introducing 
/OTHER/ kinds of process-change and cultural-change in organizations. 
After that I realized the general form of OAA before/after Open Space 
with 100 days in the middle was applicable WAY beyond Agile adoption.


4. After I got those calls I set it up so Prime/OS was the base and Open 
Agile Adoption is derived from that. I expect others will make other 
derivations of Prime/OS and all kinds of unpredictable things can and 
will happen.



We need more innovation, not less. More openness, not less. For this 
reason, open source licensing for culture technology is a very big deal 
at this point in the human narrative. This is the time to ENABLE 
innovation via open-source licensing. This is NOT the time to be locking 
up culture-tech IPfar from it !!


Related Link:
http://newtechusa.net/agile/culture-technology-wants-to-be-free/



Kind Regards,
Daniel









On 3/22/15 10:23 PM, Francois Knuchel via OSList wrote:


Hello all,

I don’t normally contribute to this list (I’m an online ‘lurker’, or 
an introvert in flesh, but have always felt welcome here in the OS 
community), but I did want to come in here to celebrate Daniel’s work, 
in effect potentially elevating Open Space to a new level.  Even if 
you are not involved in agile or IT, please read on – what Daniel has 
to say *goes way beyond “agile”* (I myself am also not an agile coach, 
nor have any involvement with the agile world).


You can follow all the links Daniel has provided explaining Open Agile 
Adoption, so I’m not going to explain it here.  All I feel compelled 
to do is point out the relevance of OAA in today’s organisational world.


Daniel says OAA is new.  Is it?  Well the open space part of it is 
*not* new, the open space events that Daniel is talking about are the 
very same open space events that you guys have been running for the 
last 20-30 years.  What is new, however, I think, is this:


·the use or application of Open Space beyond deliberations of a topic 
which people feel passionate about, beyond running conferences and 
barcamps, beyond conflict resolution or peace talks, beyond repairing 
dysfunctionality, beyond planning Olympic pavilions J, beyond ………. and 
so on, to introducing culture change, and going beyond the initial 
spark by making transformation stick.  In other words introducing Open 
Space into organisations and anchoring it as part of a new culture 
(rather than a one-off event with the typical bounce back) – making 
change last and sustainable.


·the intentional double open space framework separated by a time in 
between where learning and playful experimentation takes place, 
creating what I call a metamorphosis cocoon where people take it upon 
themselves to experiment freely, learn and co-create the change 
(thereby co-owning it), knowing well there is an end open space to 
really hash out all the learnings and adapt accordingly; in other 
words the second open space is much more than simply a “follow up”, 
it’s what anchors the shift and enables the organisation on a journey 
of further open space and transformations beyond.


This latter cocoon feature demarcated by an opening and closing open 
space is what Daniel has referred to as a 100-day open space.  Yes, 
strictly it is not open space, after all there are coaches, trainers, 
facilitators, guided iterations and all sorts; but the spirit of open 
space, its serendipity of connections, openness of discussions, the 
right to fail in order to learn and move on, lives on (partly enabled 
by the knowledge of the second open space).  And in open space spirit 
everyone affected by the adoption is invited, on an opt-in basis, to 
participate, to move, to butterfly and bumblebee freely, and therefore 
be fully engaged in the change process, letting all affected personnel 
co-create the change rather than it being dictated.  And this is what 
enables the change to stick, to make the change sustainable.  Nothing 
changes overnight, all change has a gestation period, and if it takes 
some initial facilitation in between to let the metamorphosis proceed, 
so be it – as someone has said, we must meet clients where they are at.


OK, so what? So what, you may say, if you’re not into agile. Well what 
Daniel has introduced *goes way beyo

Re: [OSList] Agile-in-OpenSpace videos

[Daniel Mezick via OSList]

Friends and Citizens of OSLIST:

Greetings.

As I continue to think, and get experience and learn, I realize that 
what I often "see and hope for an org" and "what is possible right here 
right now" .those 2 items have a big, huge gap. Certainly a lot of 
the gap can be closed in one stepbut THE WHOLE THING?


So for example: yes, it is a great aspirational goal to "eliminate all 
meetings", and even have Open Space as a passing aha (...we graduated! 
We no longer need OST!!) and so on.


Question: How do you get there... without various people going out in 
body bags from stress? From freaking out? from culture shock?


Eliminating any and all forms of meeting AND getting rid of any formal 
facilitation are all great goalsto bring the org to such a state of 
advancement that, well, you know, they are just AMAZINGall open 
space all the time


Now: is speeding that up beyond what people can handle actually a good 
idea?


Wondering

So for example getting rid of all meetings might go like this:

1. Facilitate all meetings or awhile
2. Make all meeting optional, too
3. Eventually, just GET RID OF all meetings.

This progression (through time) makes sense to me.

Because, to tell you the truth, "step 1" ain't as easy as it looks

...now, can we just SHOCK an org into evolving?

Does the real world really work that way?

Consider the guidance for the Open Space invitation: "4 to 6 weeks in 
advance." Yes we can do 2 weeks or 2 days, that said the standard 
guidance is to give them many weeks to "figure out what the 
invitation MEANS" ... to "integrate the invite", etc.


Orgs seem to have "currently-available range of options" (destinations) 
for evolving. A range or collection of /destinations/ they can go to 
from here. Kind of like stepping stones. Kind of like this:


1. Identify what set of stepping-stone destinations ("leaps") are 
immediately possible, and

2. Invite them to pick one, and
3. Help them do that one leap.

I find this works well. Very well actually!

The alternative, a complete annihilation of everything that "was", a 
complete annihilation of everything that "is"in favor of the All-New 
Shiny Thing the Shiny Thing that in theory "wants to happen"...or so 
we say...this seems both impractical and extremely stressful for the org.


Not to mention: whatever happened to:

 * /Whenever it starts is the right time?/
 * /Whatever happens is the only thing that could? /

And so I like the idea of "do a little, learn a little, 
integrate...then SHIFT to the next level..."


The dual-OST, before/after Open Space with 100 days in the middle...what 
we now call Open Agile Adoptionthis seems to provide the kind of 
place/space where the folks can actually "make some stew" together, and 
boil it down, and enjoy it, and get to a new level of integration. And fast!


I'm not so sure "annihilation of everything that came before" is really 
such a cool idea. It also seems kind of /forced/ as I think about it. 
Kind of /violent/. I realize stuff has to "die" before the new stuff can 
be "born" but do we have to burn the forest down to the ground to get 
legitimate new growth?


How many organizations can live through that level of trauma without 
freaking out ?


Is Open Space JUST for orgs that are in /total crisis/those that are 
/completely freaked out/and completely out of aces and perceived 
options?


Because, I suspect OST is a lot more robust than that.

I suspect OST  is a lot more versatile than that.

And this has certainly been my experience so far.

Daniel















On 3/21/15 4:18 PM, Harrison wrote:


Dan --- Our organizations are definitely stodgy. Even the best of them 
seem to clunk along when compared to what they might be doing. God 
knows how you could ever produce any numbers to prove this assertion, 
but I have yet to met anybody (even the wildest enthusiast) who would 
affirm that their organization was running in top form. Good yes... 
but with lots of room for improvement. But I suspect that the critical 
issue is NOT a matter of “low level of development,” rather it is a 
case of self inflicted wounds causing radical sub-optimization. The 
“cure” would then be to stop the wounding, at least until we could see 
how things might go. Of course, if the situation really is terminal, 
then by all means, Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, Facilitation, 
Last Rites, whatever...


So what would an organization look like if it stopped being shot? How 
would it perform?


Sounds pretty abstract and difficult to visualize... but I do believe 
we get the picture in wild living color, every time we have the 
privilege of opening the space for a damaged organization, where the 
trouble is real and palpable. I’m not talking about the two hour Open 
Space on some frilly, safe topic. I mean the real deal where the 
stakes are seriously high. Survival stuff.


My experience is shared by many, and the stories are often told. My

Re: [OSList] OSList Archive Woes

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

The support person at Mail-Archive.com found the bug/limitation in their 
import program - and I was able to search back to December 1996.


But this morning - it is again limited to only searching back to 
September 2013.


Was very much looking forward to posting that the archives were working, 
and to start being active on the OSList again - once my attention could 
be removed from the archive issue that has been distracting me since 
last year.


Whenever it's over...
Whatever happens...

Harold

On 3/21/15 10:05 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:

Nice!

https://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/

Thanks Harold!

On 3/16/15 2:57 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
Well, me again. I had hoped to change the subject line to something 
more encouraging that Archive Woes.


Good news, we have archives from 1/31/2010 through today up on 
http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. They are 
searchable. But for some reason - the upload of the rest of the 
emails from December 1996 through January 2010 were missing.


Since the guy at Mail-Archive.com only seems to look at support 
requests over the weekend, I wouldn't expect another update until 
next week.


It's progress. But it's not over 'til it's over!

Hopefully,
Harold

On 3/9/15 1:13 PM, Harold Shinsato wrote:
A quick update - the mail-archives.com support person got back to me 
over the weekend. They process any submitted backlog of archives 
over the weekend. I assembled and scrubbed them last week and over 
the weekend and submitted them last night - 0.5 gigs - from 
1996-2015. Until they get processed (hopefully by the end of next 
weekend) you can also fetch them yourself: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27630806/oslist-clean-all-1996-2015.mbox


If all goes well they'll be up on the mail-archives.com link after 
next weekend.


Happy OSList-ing!
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Re: [OSList] Agile-in-OpenSpace videos

[Suzanne Daigle via OSList]

Daniel,

*Thank You* for this and all that preceded it.  I've been going through my
own angst on the same questions that you've just posed.

Plus something that Harrison said earlier:

The “*cure*” would then be to stop the wounding, at least until we could
see how things might go. Of course, if the situation really is *terminal*,
then by all means, Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, Facilitation, Last
Rites, whatever...


Stop the wounding, see how things might go less is more and letting go
is a *very tall order*!

I know that from what I personally struggled with *after* my first
experiences in Open Space. As a manager, a leader, a mom, a friend, I got a
sense of where I had been controlling too much and doing too much under the
auspices of coordinating, helping, and yes, even leading. For a period of
time, I even questioned what my whole life had been -- these were not easy
questions. Others I know will suffer the same insights (grief indeed!).
What's worse is that our top down hierarchy organizational models have
rewarded us for this calling it good leadership. Control is embedded
everywhere...insidious almost.

As a facilitator, I saw the emergent bliss of others experiencing Open
Space. I witnessed the great good that came of it with some degree of
"sticking" power. But I could not deny that people were going back to stuck
systems and practices in their ways of working with many remaining
questions buried inside them.  The opportunity of "seeing of how things
go"...with the opportunity to reinvent the work of the business while also
running the business itself seemed a mammoth task! I felt there was more
for me to do, not singlehandedly or in an enabling way but in a roll up our
sleeves, let's figure this out together. It's why I was so drawn to
Agile...because I felt it supported the journey towards self-organizing, a
journey with collaborative practices that had application beyond software.

Is it considered "terminal" if we help either with Scrum or other
distributed leadership processes/practices that self-management companies
are utilizing now (like Morning Star, W.L. Gore) to break the cycle of
control and predictability embedded in our command/control structures?
Would that be organizing the self-organizing?

What you described Daniel...as raw as it is (body bags is not an
exaggeration!) does strike a deep chord. Thank you for articulating it so
well.

I am heartened by your words as I hope for the same.

Is Open Space JUST for orgs that are in *total crisis*those that
are *completely
freaked out*and completely out of aces and perceived options?

Because, I suspect OST is a lot more robust than that. .. A lot more
versatile than that.


I also connected with what Francois so eloquently and passionately
described.


OK, so what? So what, you may say, if you’re not into agile.  Well what
Daniel has introduced *goes way beyond agile*.  The framework Daniel has
put together, surely, is relevant to any adoption (implementation of a new
system or working practice), not just agile.  It relevant to lean adoption,
responsive adoption, environmental management adoption – indeed it is *relevant
to any change or transformation process*.  So guys, forget the agile bit,
what Daniel is introducing is a way of introducing fundamental
transformation into any organisation and *making it stick*.


In the pursuit towards self-organization (self-management), between less is
more and letting go, I believe there is important work to be done in the
way of "opening space and holding space" with the same intentionality as is
there when we facilitate. I do not want to be in the sidelines of this
work. Nor do I want to control it.

Options, stepping stones, make some stew together, etc.  Rolling up our
sleeves to do the work that needs doing and figuring out how the evolution
from "here" to "there" might go, helping each other  however those roles
play out, it seems to me that that is what life and the real work of life
is all about.

Having said all this, there is a part of me that still wonders... if "doing
nothing is not the doing of everything" though I have yet to conceive what
"doing nothing that is everything" really is.

For now I won't overthink it cause I fear I'll be missing out on the best
of life if I live in my head too much on these questions. Best to
experience as it unfolds.

Suzanne...trekking on!






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On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

>  Friends and Citizens of OSLIST:
>
> Greetings.
>
> As I continue to think, and get experience and learn, I realize that what
> I often "see and hope for an org" and "what is possible right here right
> now" .those 2 items have a big, huge gap. Certainly a lot of the gap
> can be closed in one stepbut THE WHOLE THING?
>

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Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"

[agusj via OSList]

Hello Suzanne and all,

"The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”.  Letting go the old ways 
of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, 
starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one 
considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization.  This 
represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error." Wonderful 
 and provocative thought. 

I had the opportunity and the privelege of participating in the ULab led by 
Otto Sharmer some weeks ago. In my humble opinion, U Theory has 2 concepts that 
are in line with this conversation about death and birth. They are "letting go" 
and "letting come". You have to letting go the past in order to letting come 
the emergent future. I compare this "letting go" with the "death process" you 
are talking about, and the "letting come" with the "birth process" 
respectively.  I would dare say that these both "processes" are also present in 
OS. In the last year, I have facilitated 3 three-day OS events and what I have 
observed is that the first day is for "catharsis", and is only after that, that 
the group can overcome the past and is ready to letting come the emergent 
future in the second day.  I think that this "letting come" is possible, 
because OS propitiates the conditions for presencing, that happens at the 
bottom of the U, and this is the point where you connect to your inner source 
of inspiration and will.

I am eager to hear your ideas about this connection I have found between U 
Theory and OS.
 
Agustin



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Subject: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"

Harrison and all,

I had the opportunity to visit some companies lately that had the stirrings of 
self-organization. One of them, Sun Hydraulics, was among the 12 organizations 
featured in Frederic Laloux’s book: Reinventing Organizations. And as luck 
would have it, Doug Kirkpatrick of Morning Star (another Laloux company) was 
touring with me. 
 
The other companies I visited were not at the same level but in their heart and 
actions, I knew they were heading in the same direction.  Though truly for all, 
it is the journey and not the destination that self-organization represents. 
 
I was in awe and truly could not get enough.  It reminded me of those best 
moments in my own work career when shared pride, purpose, collaboration, 
camaraderie, high performance and aliveness bubbled over. Above all, I was 
struck by the wonderful “ordinary” people doing “extraordinary things”; 
leadership lurking everywhere, individuals taking and living their own space 
with others.
 
In the joy of experiencing and reliving the intensity and vibrancy of what 
“work” can and should be like, I was struck and deeply saddened knowing how few 
organizations are operating this way.  How much pain and how much “settling and 
giving up” there still is in the world of work today.  
 
I see and feel the contrast of the two: lifeless versus vibrant.
 
And yet in the despair of knowing this, I sense a shift in consciousness, two 
realities colliding, as one world dies, another waits to be birthed.  There is 
much “hanging on” in companies today with a grasping of the “illusion of 
safety” that our old system operated on, whilst many are now edging towards 
something that is exerting its pull, something new. 
 
Much has been written about the industrial model under which most companies 
still operate.  A top-down hierarchy, command-control system with 
predictability and efficiency built in. The habits of this are embedded 
everywhere. Most of us know this operating system has been pushed to its limits 
and no longer serves. One can’t deny that much good came of it not the least of 
which we have been given more years in this wonderful life. Nor can one deny 
its excesses, which have caused much damage not the least of which to our human 
spirit on what matters most. 
 
The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”.  Letting go the old ways of 
doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, 
starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one 
considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization.  This 
represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error. 

Does it require that our organizations hit bottom?  Or perhaps in our souls, we 
know that we have already hit bottom and this will be enough to propel us 
forward.  
 
Harrison says:  “The cure then would be to stop the wounding, at least until we 
could see how things might go. Of course, if the situation is really terminal, 
then by all means. Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, Facilitation, Last Rites, 
whatever…”
 
And then later he says:
“Before we do anything more, different, or otherwise – I sincerely believe we 
need to stop and appreciate what apparently happens very naturally, all by 
itself, with minimal or no assist

Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"

[Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring via OSList]

Hi Agustin: I Like this book theory U I don,t think that I understand it
very well but I am living mi self this process of letting go and letting
come new things because I was in Montreal for seven years and now I live in
Mexico again but in a new city called Queretaro.
I will be facilitating an OS for the pschology students congress of the
UCO_Mondragon university.
I am exited to do it.
 But yes every time explaining OS confronts me with this aspect that people
need to let go to their old model before they accept to try this new one
option.

I am also having the same difficulties with the other approach I use calle
Groupe de codéveloppement profesionel based on experiential learning and
group interaction. It is also based on the idea that a group has a
collective intelligence that is bigger when we talk together.
I would like to share this method with people from this list. If someone
wants to know more and to have a first experience I would like to offer a
free on line session. I need minimum 3 people and maximum 5. It takes 2
hours. This method for me is very powerful and could be complementary with
an OS event . Contact me if you want to know more!

Thank you for sharing this good ideas and experiences!
Adriana

2015-03-23 21:34 GMT-06:00 agusj via OSList 
:

> Hello Suzanne and all,
>
> "The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”.  Letting go the old
> ways of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now
> doing, starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if
> one considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization.  This
> represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error."
> Wonderful  and provocative thought.
>
> I had the opportunity and the privelege of participating in the ULab led
> by Otto Sharmer some weeks ago. In my humble opinion, U Theory has 2
> concepts that are in line with this conversation about death and birth.
> They are "letting go" and "letting come". You have to letting go the past
> in order to letting come the emergent future. I compare this "letting go"
> with the "death process" you are talking about, and the "letting come" with
> the "birth process" respectively.  I would dare say that these both
> "processes" are also present in OS. In the last year, I have facilitated 3
> three-day OS events and what I have observed is that the first day is for
> "catharsis", and is only after that, that the group can overcome the past
> and is ready to letting come the emergent future in the second day.  I
> think that this "letting come" is possible, because OS propitiates the
> conditions for presencing, that happens at the bottom of the U, and this is
> the point where you connect to your inner source of inspiration and will.
>
> I am eager to hear your ideas about this connection I have found between U
> Theory and OS.
>
> Agustin
>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Suzanne Daigle via OSList 
> *To:* OSLIST 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:07 AM
> *Subject:* [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"
>
> Harrison and all,
>
> I had the opportunity to visit some companies lately that had the
> stirrings of self-organization. One of them, Sun Hydraulics, was among the
> 12 organizations featured in Frederic Laloux’s book: Reinventing
> Organizations. And as luck would have it, Doug Kirkpatrick of Morning Star
> (another Laloux company) was touring with me.
>
> The other companies I visited were not at the same level but in their
> heart and actions, I knew they were heading in the same direction.  Though
> truly for all, it is the journey and not the destination that
> self-organization represents.
>
> I was in awe and truly could not get enough.  It reminded me of those best
> moments in my own work career when shared pride, purpose, collaboration,
> camaraderie, high performance and aliveness bubbled over. Above all, I was
> struck by the wonderful “ordinary” people doing “extraordinary things”;
> leadership lurking everywhere, individuals taking and living their own
> space with others.
>
> In the joy of experiencing and reliving the intensity and vibrancy of what
> “work” can and should be like, I was struck and deeply saddened knowing how
> few organizations are operating this way.  How much pain and how much
> “settling and giving up” there still is in the world of work today.
>
> I see and feel the contrast of the two: lifeless versus vibrant.
>
> And yet in the despair of knowing this, I sense a shift in consciousness,
> two realities colliding, as one world dies, another waits to be
> birthed.  There is much “hanging on” in companies today with a grasping of
> the “illusion of safety” that our old system operated on, whilst many are
> now edging towards something that is exerting its pull, something new.
>
> Much has been written about the industrial model under which most
> companies still operate.  A top-down hierarchy, command-control system with
> predictability and effici

[OSList] Archives ready for search

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all
there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back
3000 messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages.
Below is more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST
messages.

  Regards,
  Harold

>
> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect
you are
> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is
normal
> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we
expect
> users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!)
prefers
> search to clicking a dozen times.
>
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
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Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search

[Gail West via OSList]

Ah, Harold.  What a great gift you are and offer for us all..
Thank you.

Gail


On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all
> there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back
> 3000 messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages.
> Below is more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST
> messages.
>
>   Regards,
>   Harold
>
> >
> > Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect
> you are
> > talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is
> normal
> > and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we
> expect
> > users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!)
> prefers
> > search to clicking a dozen times.
> >
> >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume
> >
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
> >
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> > Jeff
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Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search

[Koos de Heer via OSList]

Harold,

You are truly awesome. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this. 
And for keeping us informed all the time. 

I am sending you a virtual thank you hug. 

Koos

> Op 24 mrt. 2015 om 05:55 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all there 
> and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back 3000 
> messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages. Below is 
> more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST messages.
> 
>   Regards,
>   Harold
> 
> >
> > Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect you 
> > are
> > talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is normal
> > and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we expect 
> > users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!) prefers 
> > search to clicking a dozen times. 
> >
> >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume
> >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> > -- 
> > Support 
> > The Mail Archive
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