Re: [OSList] Deep Visioning

[christine koehler via OSList]

Hi Agota

Yes, that would be great if I could talk to him !
 Especially because Nokia was the client. It might help me see clearly some 
limits of the process and give me more precise ideas of the way to engage for 
true emergence.

Thanks for your offer

Christine 
> Le 18 sept. 2016 à 07:13, Ágota Éva Ruzsa  a écrit :
> 
> Dear Christine, 
> I know that ca 10 years ago a friend and her colleagues did something similar 
> with NOKIA world wide. Are you interested in that contact? 
> And once on a smaller scale we did a similar thing with TEC-OST and they all 
> concluded in a focused and action oriented TS afterwards... It is exciting 
> and challenging what you may be up to. I'd be curious to hear about the 
> process. 
> Agota
> 
> christine koehler via OSList  > ezt írta (2016. szeptember 17., 
> szombat):
> Hi friends
> 
> I came across a potential client who wants to co-create a vision involving 
> all collaborators  (2500 people in 11 countries) and even more (clients, 
> suppliers..) and is looking for someone to help them for this one-year 
> process.
> They did it already about 10 years ago (they were of course less people at 
> that time), with a process that, If I understand clearly, seems to me closed 
> to what Doyle was doing.
> They want to do it again as, as you can imagine, the world has changed 
> completely in 10 years and they are facing  new kind of challenges and 
> competitors.
> They also want it to be « modern », involving digital tools.. and lots of 
> communication.
> 
> I am still not sure how I will answer to this request.
> 
> One possibility would be to stick to what they know and look to partner with 
> someone who know the process they have in mind. This person would need to 
> speak French.
> My question then  to you is : is any of you/do you know anyone/  familiar 
> with  the deep visioning process of Michael Doyle ? I’d love to talk to you 
> then.
> 
> The other possibility would be to imagine a process that involves what I 
> know, like OST, world cafe, AI , chaordic etc..
> 
> Do you have stories of this kind of processes involving all stakeholders, 
> especially all collaborators, a dozen of countries and  getting to a Vision 
> statement : purpose, mission, .. difference, values …
> How did you do it ?
> 
> 
> 
> Christine
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Re: [OSList] Deep Visioning

[christine koehler via OSList]

Hi Birgit

Those are good questions. Indeed the first question I had , after meeting with 
the client, was : am I going to take on this assignment ? Sounds too precise, 
really big, maybe too big and with many unknown areas.

Yet, even if I put the "contract option » aside (the « I need to pay my bills » 
mantra), there is, in what I heard, a intriguing demand : they want a guide for 
the coming years, and they want it from the whole system, because they know the 
result will be more powerful. They are familiar with this. How fare are they 
open to what may emerge is the right question. I think this is a question that 
is bothering them (or some of them,) : the CEO is obviously going back and 
forth between traditional management  and self management practices . 
This is precisely where I believe I can help them find their own answers.
I was told that the system is tired of permanent change : this indeed is a 
warning.

Yes, the right question is  there " Is there genuine space for engagement, 
emergence, and participation ? '.

Thanks for naming it Birgitt, it helps.

Christine 
> Le 17 sept. 2016 à 23:03, Birgitt Williams  > a écrit :
> 
> Hi Christine,
> I have questions. The first are to do with you. Why do you wish to take on 
> this assignment, what do you have to offer to it, and how does it align with 
> you fulfilling your purpose, mission and live your values? 
> 
> From these answers, I believe you will know what you want to offer based on 
> whether you feel it will require some educating of the client from yourself 
> about what is possible to truly do deep visioning.instead of you fitting 
> yourself into what appears to be a shallow yet 'politically correct' 
> framework. Is there genuine space for engagement, emergence, and 
> participation beyond people being used to provide 'data'.
> 
> It seems that this may be a situation of 'they don't know what they don't 
> know' in terms of how important true deep visioning, engagement, 
> participation might provide.
> 
> Warmly,
> Birgitt
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 2:59 AM christine koehler via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Hi friends
> 
> I came across a potential client who wants to co-create a vision involving 
> all collaborators  (2500 people in 11 countries) and even more (clients, 
> suppliers..) and is looking for someone to help them for this one-year 
> process.
> They did it already about 10 years ago (they were of course less people at 
> that time), with a process that, If I understand clearly, seems to me closed 
> to what Doyle was doing.
> They want to do it again as, as you can imagine, the world has changed 
> completely in 10 years and they are facing  new kind of challenges and 
> competitors.
> They also want it to be « modern », involving digital tools.. and lots of 
> communication.
> 
> I am still not sure how I will answer to this request.
> 
> One possibility would be to stick to what they know and look to partner with 
> someone who know the process they have in mind. This person would need to 
> speak French.
> My question then  to you is : is any of you/do you know anyone/  familiar 
> with  the deep visioning process of Michael Doyle ? I’d love to talk to you 
> then.
> 
> The other possibility would be to imagine a process that involves what I 
> know, like OST, world cafe, AI , chaordic etc..
> 
> Do you have stories of this kind of processes involving all stakeholders, 
> especially all collaborators, a dozen of countries and  getting to a Vision 
> statement : purpose, mission, .. difference, values …
> How did you do it ?
> 
> 
> 
> Christine
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Re: [OSList] Deep Visioning

[Birgitt Williams via OSList]

Hi Christine,
I have questions. The first are to do with you. Why do you wish to take on
this assignment, what do you have to offer to it, and how does it align
with you fulfilling your purpose, mission and live your values?

>From these answers, I believe you will know what you want to offer based on
whether you feel it will require some educating of the client from yourself
about what is possible to truly do deep visioning.instead of you
fitting yourself into what appears to be a shallow yet 'politically
correct' framework. Is there genuine space for engagement, emergence, and
participation beyond people being used to provide 'data'.

It seems that this may be a situation of 'they don't know what they don't
know' in terms of how important true deep visioning, engagement,
participation might provide.

Warmly,
Birgitt

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 2:59 AM christine koehler via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hi friends
>
> I came across a potential client who wants to co-create a vision involving
> all collaborators  (2500 people in 11 countries) and even more (clients,
> suppliers..) and is looking for someone to help them for this one-year
> process.
> They did it already about 10 years ago (they were of course less people at
> that time), with a process that, If I understand clearly, seems to me
> closed to what Doyle was doing.
> They want to do it again as, as you can imagine, the world has changed
> completely in 10 years and they are facing  new kind of challenges and
> competitors.
> They also want it to be « modern », involving digital tools.. and lots of
> communication.
>
> I am still not sure how I will answer to this request.
>
> One possibility would be to stick to what they know and look to partner
> with someone who know the process they have in mind. This person would need
> to speak French.
> My question then  to you is : is any of you/do you know anyone/  familiar
> with  the deep visioning process of Michael Doyle ? I’d love to talk to you
> then.
>
> The other possibility would be to imagine a process that involves what I
> know, like OST, world cafe, AI , chaordic etc..
>
> Do you have stories of this kind of processes involving all stakeholders,
> especially all collaborators, a dozen of countries and  getting to a Vision
> statement : purpose, mission, .. difference, values …
> How did you do it ?
>
>
>
> Christine
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Re: [OSList] Come to NCDD Boston: Bridging Our Divides - October 14-16

[John Rapp via OSList]

I'm here in Seattle. You were the guest speaker for an mba class I taught in 
2007 on ost. I'm also a huge devotee of the "other os/t" (so-called).  If my 
current case is a big enough hit to impress Judy, my 33+ year bride, I might 
get $$ to join you on this CONF, to fill the slot on my 2017 biz plan. Lunch?

I could invite Ed Nixon to discuss how his brother viewed conflict - & his 
surprising views on Trump. 

JFSR

John Rapp
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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Peggy Holman via OSList 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I want to give you a heads up about the upcoming National Conference on 
> Dialogue & Deliberation taking place in Framingham, MA this October 14-16.
> 
> NCDD has extended an offer to Open Space practitioners for $100 off the 
> regular registration rate ($350 rather than $450). 
> 
> Learn more about the conference at www.ncdd.org/events/ncdd2016, or register 
> now at this link for the discounted rate: 
> http://ncdd2016.eventbrite.com?discount=OpenSpace-Friend-Discount. The 
> discount code is already applied when you use this link. (But register soon 
> because the discount is good for just the first 10 people who use it!)
> I find the NCDD conferences are a great place to connect with others doing 
> community work and to introduce folks to ideas of self-organization who may 
> be unfamiliar with its power to support communities to thrive.
> 
> The theme for NCDD Boston is Bridging Our Divides. The conference will bring 
> together hundreds of the most active, thoughtful, and influential people 
> involved in public engagement and group process work across the U.S. and 
> Canada. They'll be highlighting the best of what’s happening in civil 
> discourse and community problem-solving across the country — so come and 
> share your work, meet new colleagues, and learn about the latest innovations 
> in this vital field.
> 
> It’s always great to have an excuse to get together with kindred spirits!
> 
> I hope to see you in Boston!
> 
> Appreciatively,
> Peggy
> 
> 
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[OSList] Come to NCDD Boston: Bridging Our Divides - October 14-16

[Peggy Holman via OSList]

Hi all,

I want to give you a heads up about the upcoming National Conference on 
Dialogue & Deliberation  taking place in 
Framingham, MA this October 14-16.

NCDD has extended an offer to Open Space practitioners for $100 off the regular 
registration rate ($350 rather than $450). 

Learn more about the conference at www.ncdd.org/events/ncdd2016 
, or register now at this link for the 
discounted rate: 
http://ncdd2016.eventbrite.com?discount=OpenSpace-Friend-Discount 
. The 
discount code is already applied when you use this link. (But register soon 
because the discount is good for just the first 10 people who use it!)
I find the NCDD conferences are a great place to connect with others doing 
community work and to introduce folks to ideas of self-organization who may be 
unfamiliar with its power to support communities to thrive.

The theme for NCDD Boston is Bridging Our Divides. The conference will bring 
together hundreds of the most active, thoughtful, and influential people 
involved in public engagement and group process work across the U.S. and 
Canada. They'll be highlighting the best of what’s happening in civil discourse 
and community problem-solving across the country — so come and share your work, 
meet new colleagues, and learn about the latest innovations in this vital field.

It’s always great to have an excuse to get together with kindred spirits!

I hope to see you in Boston!

Appreciatively,
Peggy



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Executive Director
Journalism that Matters
15347 SE 49th Place
Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.journalismthatmatters.net
www.peggyholman.com
Twitter: @peggyholman
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Re: [OSList] [GC] Time challenge - multiple short OSTs? (x-posted OS/GC-lists)

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Judy,

in my practice I have always suggested to the sponsor (when that topic 
came up) not to make promises regarding the support of any action that 
arose out of the ost gathering... other than to provide for what I 
called "Next Meeting(s)".
The Next Meeting, 3.5 hours (between 4 and 8 weeks after the ost event), 
gives space to


--- visualize the progress to date for each action
--- have an exchange on the progress to date among all present
--- collect and visualise future steps ("And Now?")
--- exchange and add to "And Now?" by everyone present
--- agree to the specific Next Step in each of the action groups
--- have an exchange on the Next Steps and add stuff (ideas, I want to 
be part of this, etc.)


This design can be repeated until all actions originally planned are 
done with (mostly two such meetings suffice but there have been 
situations where up to 4 Next Meetings were needed)... participants 
together with the sponsor(s) decide at the end of each Next Meeting 
whether and when the next Next Meeting should be.
(A detailed account on this approach can be seen on pages 181 to 192 
with lots of pictures in "Meine open space Praxis"... the photos and 
German language skills will help. Its available as hard cover and eBook

https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis
https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis-E-Book


This approach ensures that those gathered around an action take the 
whole responsibility to actually see the action through. Whatever 
ressources they need from the organisation they need to and will acquire 
themselves. In other words, stuff happens because originators of actions 
see it through... its selforganisation all the way down and if an action 
is not supported I have heard of ingenious ways to get approval after all.


This approach is based on various assumptions:

--- participants gathered around an issue that they care/are passionate 
about and that they are willing to work/fight for will make progress on 
that issue completely irrespective of prior promises of support
--- prior promises by the sponsor reduce either the  passion or 
responsibility or both for a particular issue and give rise to a 
plethora of proposals
--- actions by participants bringing progress to particular issues, 
especially sticky ones, will benefit not only a particular issue but 
will support the infrastructure for future action in the organisation



Another assumption that I have worked with and which, over the years of 
practice has more and more left the realm of assumption is that 
resilient, robust action can be expected after an ost event that makes 
time for a whole day and a half, with the first day spent in ost and the 
second in Action Planning (Action Space)... optimal are 2.5 days (16 
hours spread over 3 days and two nights sleep).
And, following that assumption, I have always informed sponsors of the 
givens I just mentioned.
In some cases this led to splitting the event in a 1 day ost gathering 
and a half day action planning a week later (this always led to having 
folks show up in the Action Space that were not at the ost-day... word 
spread that something important is going to happen).


I should not forget to  mention that I often was asked about a 3 or 4 
hour event. Result was always that the sponsor decided to follow my 
suggestion to rethink the matter and give me a ring later. That ring 
always came and more often than not, the sponsor continued the search 
for a different design.


And, if someone has a real business issue that requires immediate 
attention or hell breaks lose, if chaos and conflict can be seen right 
in front of you... even a space of less than 3 hours has to suffice to 
get actions in place... albeit, none of my 170 sponsors in the last 20 
years faced such severe conditions but many wanted to reduce the time 
for a bypass operation from 7 hours to two.


Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 16.09.2016 20:53, Judy Gast via OSList wrote:

 To chime in here, I agree with Birgitt.  The key to success is insuring
that there is a commitment to follow up through an officially sanctioned
and supported process and infrastructure.  And as Michael has said an
appropriate communications plan so that everyone who wants to come knows
the details with appropriate lead time and accessibility,  including how
to get involved in the implementation. And the results are linked back
to the meeting, and perhaps even the person or persons who initiated the
topic.  This is true for any open space, however these type of "public
forum" sessions have more propensity to be seen as an opportunity for
people to complain and grandstand their issues.

Look forward to reading more about it!

Judy

On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
wrote:


Hi Thomas,

I see that you are hoping to use OST and yet not totally sure if it
will be your chosen method. I believe that OST is the only method that