Re: [OSList] Open Space in Zoom times......

[Doug Marteinson via OSList]

Please count me in as well, thanks! (Pacific time zone)

Doug Marteinson
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> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Marc C. Trudeau via OSList 
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> As would I. (Thanks!)
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>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 12:48 PM, Funda Oral via OSList 
>>  wrote:
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>> I would like to participate as well from Istanbul.
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>> Funda
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>> Michael Herman via OSList , 10 Oca 2021 Paz, 
>> 20:42 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>> Great call, Romy!  I’m in too.  And just one time zone click from Chris and 
>> Peggy.  Sooner the better, for me.  Planning some more meetings now. 
>> Michael
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>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:35 Peggy Holman via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Lovely to see you here Romy!
>> 
>> I’m game to be in a conversation. Since I’m in the same time zone as Chris, 
>> though across a border, if the time works for him, it works for me. 
>> 
>> I’ve just used Zoom and Google docs for the breakout spaces. You can see an 
>> example from a gathering on journalism education that matters that was 
>> turned into a website after the convening. The session notes were once 
>> Google docs.
>> 
>> Peggy
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>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> If the time zones work, I’d be interested. My crew is doing OST events with 
>>> Zoom and Miro (and Google Slides) and we could share some stories. 
>>> 
>>> It works far better than I would have expected. 
>>> 
>>>  Chris
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 4:59 AM Romy Shovelton via OSList 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hello lovely OS world and extended family….
>>> 
>>> Apologies for being absent for SO long….. I lurk occasionally and enJOY 
>>> seeing you there, sharing wisdom so brilliantly and inspiringly. Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Seeing Funda’s posting…. I would LOVE to have a conversation (dare I say 
>>> Zoom ?!!) with OS people about how to make OS the best it possibly can be 
>>> in an online world. I know that Phelim and the Improbable crew have done 
>>> some online work. If anyone might be interested in talking about such 
>>> things, I would love it….  
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Romy
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Re: [OSList] What is y/our biggest vision for OST ?

[Doug Marteinson via OSList]

Thanks Marai for opening this topic for wide conversation! 

From the WOSonOS planning meeting, I am interpreting that the conversation 
zoomed in on broadening the use of open space worldwide (no need to waste time 
on trying to improve OST) —  so that WOSonOS "opens itself to people who are 
interested in the space that is opened via any participatory meeting or any 
other means.” 

Thanks for that line, Brigitt!

Cheers ;-)
Doug
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> On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:09 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList 
>  wrote:
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> Dear Marai,
> Thank you for your invitation to imagine. Just yesterday I wrote a  blog post 
> about the benefits from the power of imagination...and using meetings as a 
> catalyst to soar. Within participative meetings, especially when the space is 
> genuinely open, we benefit from the power of imagination. Imagination fuels 
> creativity. By nature, all people have (are) creative and creating spirit.
> 
> In the blog post, I speak about the importance of well done planning for the 
> participatory meeting. No matter what kind of participatory meeting method is 
> used, space gets opened for imagination and creative spirit. I think of open 
> space as sacred space, and what is referred to as 'opening space' invites the 
> use of imagination to remember that spirit is all that is. 
> 
> For over 25 years I have been a purist when it comes to facilitating the Open 
> Space Technology meeting as the way of doing so as taught by Harrison opens 
> space in the best ways for people to access their awareness of their 
> connection with their creative spirit, benefiting from the power of 
> imagination to do so. I think that we have evolved beyond discussions of Open 
> Space Technology as it is just fine as it is.
> 
> We seem to discuss opening space and it is valuable not to confuse that with 
> OST, which is simply one form, albeit a great one, of opening space. I have 
> interest in a WOSONOS that recognizes this distinction and opens itself to 
> people who are interested in the space that is opened via any participatory 
> meeting or any other means.
> 
> Blessings to all,
> Birgitt
> 
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> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 12:13 PM Skye Hirst via OSList 
>  wrote:
> I just found this poem,  I think I wrote it, not sure,  but sounds relevant.  
> 
> Come into opening the circle of Living processes
> Where life appears mysterious and wonderful
> Where "can'ts"  do find "how-tos."
> Where the diversity of us together
> Is far more than the sum of the parts.
> 
> And it is something to do with us being embodied living beings - to-gather
> 
> Thank you so for your thoughtful inviting.oh heck,  opening the space 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:33 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> Are you interested in fresh thinking regarding OST?
> Are you interested in making it better?
> 
> I recently participated in the WOSonOS planning meeting and ever since I’ve 
> been wondering:
> What could make me eager to go to Iceland?
> 
> Right now, I am not eager. Yet.
> 
> I have already been to three WOSonOS (2003 in Svenmark, 2005 in Canada, 2010 
> in Berlin) and several OSonOS.
> I don’t need another OST just to share some practices, experiences, stories.
> Just to see old friends (while I love meeting old friends!). Just to make new 
> friends (while I love making new friends!).
> 
> But none of this evokes the desire to go to Iceland for WOSonOS from me.
> How about you?
> 
> So I’ve been contemplating:
> What would I need to happen there, so that I create the money and time to go?
> What would need to have evolved, so that afterwards I will celebrate having 
> been there?
> 
> Today I listened to a podcast by Seth Godin, who I appreciate for his honest 
> and brilliant approach to marketing.
> Regarding the grandest possible vision for OST I invite you to listen to 1 
> minute:
> 
> http://hear.sethpodcast.com/?_branch_match_id=353283807642880233
> 
> Stopp what is playing automatically
> Scroll down to the episodes and start „The Grand Opening"
> Listen to 10:57 - 11:58
> 
> Please take 1,5 minutes, listen first, than continue reading. Thank you.
> 
> *
> 
> So referring to what he shared and applying it to OST:
> 
> Can OST actually be made better?
> I know there is a strong perspective of every change = making it worse.
> I once thought that way. Not anymore.
> 
> What if there actually were many things to make it better?
> Be it in the format, the marketing, how it is integrated into business…
> 
> So that we relax and trust that… slowly and naturally… some day soon… 
> everyone is going to know about it?
> 
> And what could this year's WOSonOS have to do with it?
> 
> Just wondering…
> 
> Any thoughts, feelings, further questions?
> 
> PS - some of you may remember me:
> I am located in Germany, back on this list after many years of 

Re: [OSList] How to organise self organisation - a learning journey? - A story about 20 years of Learnings about public engagement in Vorarlberg, Austria

[Doug Marteinson via OSList]

Thank you for the gift of that video, Toke! Great story (i.e., totally aligned 
with what I would like to see more of in the world)!

I was particularly taken with the last few minutes where Manfred described the 
growing gap in Austria between citizens and government. The folks from Sweden 
seemed to agree. I perceive Canadians would agree as well (I’m from Canada). He 
spoke of representative democracy (which in Canada consists of elected 
officials in the House of Commons) and participatory democracy (which in Canada 
currently has no formal sponsor). 

With apologies to all Canadians tuning into this conversation, we Canadians 
have struggled with the current purpose of our Senate (which consists of 
appointed officials) beyond its original role as “body of second sober 
thought”. Building on Manfred’s experience, what if the Senate, as the body of 
second sober thought, gathered  information by sponsoring “voice of the people” 
Citizen’s Assemblies across the country inviting citizens of all stripes to 
dialogue and offer recommendations on strategic issues facing the country? 

(I’m making up a story that the voice of the people needs amplification around 
the planet. Am I losing it?)

Cheers ;-)
Doug Marteinson
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> On Mar 26, 2017, at 6:11 AM, Toke Møller via OSList 
>  wrote:
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> How to organise self organisation - a learning journey? - A story about 20 
> years of Learnings about public engagement in Vorarlberg, Austria by Manfred 
> Hellrigl Director of the Office for Future related issues part of the 
> regional public administration for Vorarlberg, Austria at the SKL democracy 
> conference in Stockholm 14 April 2015.
> 
> Thank you Manfred and the Office for future related questions
> 
> https://vimeo.com/125986884
> 
> Toke   
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Re: [OSList] help me find/remember a story?

[Doug Marteinson via OSList]

40 years ago when I was studying Environmental Design, required reading was J. 
Z. Young’s “An Introduction to the Study of Man”.  My take-away from that book 
was that there were periods in the evolution of homo sapien when cooperation 
was dominant over competition, and periods when competition was dominant over 
cooperation.  I also seem to remember that those periods of cooperation led to 
leaps in species development. 

20 years later, I learned the process of Open Space Technology. I have imagined 
for many years that the open space process is the way that cave men got 
together when survival was at stake.  Where the chips were down and “we’re all 
in this together”.  During those eras of mankind where homo sapien behavior 
required collaboration in order to survive, OST principles were put to work to 
collectively figure out what needed to be done now.

The same is true today at the corporate table, as long as the big boss wants to 
hear from the troops.

Cheers, 
Doug Marteinson

> On May 2, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>  wrote:
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> At wosonos 2008 in San Francisco, we were laughing that Open Space is like a 
> Trojan horse -- to deftly bring indigenous ways of beingknowing back into the 
> modern world and worldview and institutions.
> 
> What dear Angeles Arrien called a "braided way" forward in our complex 
> planet. We moderns didn't realize what had happened until it was 'too late' :)
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On May 2, 2016 12:59 PM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" 
>  wrote:
> 20 years ago (more?) when I was doing a lot of Open Spaces in South Africa 
> right at the time of the end of Apartheid, The chiefs and others would smile 
> and ask me where a white man stole something like that. They introduced me to 
> Indaba. Seems like it is going strong after all these (thousand) years. And 
> Open Space is a new process? J
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> Harrison
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> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Herman via OSList
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:29 PM
> To: Jeff Aitken
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] help me find/remember a story?
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> with jeff's help, i found it... 
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> http://qz.com/572623/this-simple-negotiation-tactic-brought-195-countries-to-consensus-in-the-paris-climate-talks/
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> thanks, jeff!
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> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Michael Herman  
> wrote:
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> nope.  i saw that, but it was definitely something like a UN treaty.  climate 
> change, 2012?  last minute breakthrough?
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> Michael Herman
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> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Jeff Aitken  wrote:
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> Was it not Paris recently? A creatively facilitated process led to a 
> breakthrough.
> 
> Jeff
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> On May 2, 2016 8:41 AM, "Michael Herman via OSList" 
>  wrote:
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> hi all, 
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> i'm trying to find/remember a story... something about UN, treaty, climate or 
> other big issue, delegates being sent to breakout rooms to work out details, 
> i'm thinking it wasn't a formal open space process, but something that we all 
> recognized as same.  
> 
>  
> 
> did that story come through the list, or maybe the facebook group?  anybody 
> got a link or a clue?
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> thanks, michael
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> Michael Herman
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Re: [OSList] OpenSpace Agility: How Agile can be successful. First Workshop in Germany, June from 13th to 15th

[Doug Marteinson via OSList]

Hello Birgitt,

Thanks for opening the door to this dialogue.

In the olden days, when I was formally learning Open Space Technology from you 
and Chris Corrigan, you planted a seed (for me) about Open Space Organization. 
Your personal story of hands-on leadership experience using OST in 
organizational transformation impacted me. I drank the koolaid.

I am fairly new to Agile; my experience is much deeper in private sector 
utilization of OST for high performance.  My attraction to Agile methods has to 
do with my perception of complementariness with Open Space Technology.

It seems that true Agile practices enable people to choose with their feet what 
action to make happen. There seems to be alignment of principles with OST, and 
both invite people to bring their passion and responsibility to the table.

Another aspect of the complementariness in my view is that OST is a great fit 
for the big-picture strategic action focus, while Agile methods may provide 
best fit for the tactical execution of that strategic action.

In the end, as has been alluded to already, it is all about leadership.  
OpenSpace Agility, like Open Space Technology, requires extraordinary 
leadership in order for its utilization in organizations to have staying power 
beyond the inevitable leadership changes that happen.

Thoughts?

Cheers,
Doug Marteinson
+1-403-284-5144

> On Mar 7, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Birgitt Williams via OSList 
>  wrote:
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> Dear Rolf, Mark and Leslie,
> Thank you for showing up and participating in my invitation to explore, 
> converse, and be curious. I options for humanity to choose a more life 
> nurturing way to accomplish productivity and results.
>  
> My own experimentation even before I learned OST in 1992, was my quest to 
> understand what it what we had already been working on, OST became the 
> turning point we needed.
>  
> We were among the first, if not the first, to take the original 2 ½ day OST 
> meeting and experiment in the months that follow the OST meeting.
>  
> I have learned over time the critical role of the leaders…they open the space 
> in their organizations for sustain leading a flexible, agile, and emergent 
> organization.
>  
> And some years ago, after many years of working with WPPF and OST meetings in 
> tandem with each or other organization.
>  
> It is my belief that what you are attempting to do with OpenSpace Agility has 
> some parallels to what we were working on over time in our own rich learning 
> and experience journey.
>  
> Kind regards,
> Birgitt
>  
> Birgitt Williams
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> From: Rolf Schneidereit [mailto:schneider...@gut-moderiert.de] 
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 4:24 AM
> To: Mark Sheffield; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Birgitt Williams
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OpenSpace Agility: How Agile can be successful. First 
> Workshop in Germany, June from 13th to 15th
>  
> Hi Birgitt,
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you for your invitation to an exploration of the OpenSpace Agility 
> concept.
> 
>  
> 
> In the very first moment I was a little bit scared about your disagreement 
> and your definition of this as holistic and that as reductionist.
> 
> Perhaps it is because that in my experience Open Space and World Cafe are not 
> "holistic“ per se. It seems to me that it result in a more holistic or in a 
> more reductionist frame. 
> 
>  
> 
> Similar seems to me with agile. How agile practices unfold depend on the 
> mindset and the commitment. I’m 
> wonderinghttp://openspaceagility.com/big-picture/agile-manifesto/) as the 
> deepest root of agile, I can’t see this perspective in it. I agree with how 
> Harrison Owen put it: "...being Agile“ is simply being fully, consciously, 
> intentionally self organizing”
> 
>  
> 
> Where do I see the limitations? In OST: So far I have experienced it as not a 
> framework to organize the daily and weekly work of small teams (sub-systems). 
> But we have to get the work done (fo
> 
>