[OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Daniel Mezick via OSList]

Greetings All,

Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, 
more than 1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of 
their seats by the Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions 
are getting announced and going to the wall. It can get loud, and 
sometimes the last few folks do not really get heard.


So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics, 
"...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please 
return to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest 
of the sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions 
slows down, we'll declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go 
to work. Thanks."


Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation.

If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you:

Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your 
view? Why or why not?



--
Daniel Mezick
Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
(203) 915 7248. Bio.  Blog. 
 Twitter. 


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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Chuni Li via OSList]

Hi Dan,

"Please return to your seat after posting your session" is actually in my
script.
The fact that I say this doesn't mean chatting won't happen around the
market place. But I think it's fine to state this request out of respect.
What often happens is when it gets to noisy and people can't hear the new
announcements, someone will always shout out to quiet the noise.

Chuni

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Greetings All,
>
> Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, more
> than 1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their seats
> by the Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are getting
> announced and going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the last
> few folks do not really get heard.
>
> So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics,
> "...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please
> return to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of
> the sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows
> down, we'll declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work.
> Thanks."
>
> Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation.
>
> If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you:
>
> Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your
> view? Why or why not?
>
> --
> Daniel Mezick
> Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
> (203) 915 7248 <(203)%20915-7248>. Bio. 
> Blog.  Twitter.
> 
> Book: The Culture Game. 
> Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook.
> 
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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Thomas Herrmann via OSList]

Hi Dan 
I do ask people to return to their seat afternposting a topic. I also ask 
participants to start by making a brutto list of topics, divided on the 
different time slots of course, before starting any negotiations, merge or 
moving of topics. 
I think the magic focus when waiting for more topics, often in total silence, 
is special and it may be important to some of the participants. 
Cheers
Thomas

Skickat från min iPhone

> 31 jan. 2018 kl. 09:48 skrev Chuni Li via OSList 
> :
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> "Please return to your seat after posting your session" is actually in my 
> script. 
> The fact that I say this doesn't mean chatting won't happen around the market 
> place. But I think it's fine to state this request out of respect.
> What often happens is when it gets to noisy and people can't hear the new 
> announcements, someone will always shout out to quiet the noise.
> 
> Chuni
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, more 
>> than 1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their seats 
>> by the Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are getting 
>> announced and going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the last few 
>> folks do not really get heard.
>> 
>> So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics, 
>> "...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please 
>> return to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of 
>> the sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows down, 
>> we'll declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work. Thanks."
>> 
>> Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation. 
>> 
>> If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you: 
>> 
>> Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your view? 
>> Why or why not?
>> 
>>  
>> -- 
>> Daniel Mezick
>> Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
>> (203) 915 7248. Bio. Blog. Twitter. 
>> Book: The Culture Game. 
>> Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook. 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Michael Herman via OSList]

I do this all the time, not prescribing but requesting, and always
explaining that it's for the benefit of those announcing and trying to get
to the wall to post topics. It's a request for looking out for others. It's
removing an obstacle.

M



On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 17:49 Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hi Dan
> I do ask people to return to their seat afternposting a topic. I also ask
> participants to start by making a brutto list of topics, divided on the
> different time slots of course, before starting any negotiations, merge or
> moving of topics.
> I think the magic focus when waiting for more topics, often in total
> silence, is special and it may be important to some of the participants.
> Cheers
> Thomas
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
> 31 jan. 2018 kl. 09:48 skrev Chuni Li via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> "Please return to your seat after posting your session" is actually in my
> script.
> The fact that I say this doesn't mean chatting won't happen around the
> market place. But I think it's fine to state this request out of respect.
> What often happens is when it gets to noisy and people can't hear the new
> announcements, someone will always shout out to quiet the noise.
>
> Chuni
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Greetings All,
>>
>> Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace,
>> more than 1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their
>> seats by the Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are
>> getting announced and going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the
>> last few folks do not really get heard.
>>
>> So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics,
>> "...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please
>> return to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of
>> the sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows
>> down, we'll declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work.
>> Thanks."
>>
>> Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation.
>>
>> If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you:
>>
>> Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your
>> view? Why or why not?
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Mezick
>> Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
>> (203) 915 7248 <(203)%20915-7248>. Bio. 
>> Blog.  Twitter.
>> 
>> Book: The Culture Game. 
>> Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook.
>> 
>>
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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Tom Brown via OSList]

Daniel,
I have seen this behavior for sure with larger groups. And the chat fest that 
can happens at the marketplace while other folks are trying to announce their 
sessions can be disruptive to folks who announce later in the process.
I have not implemented a solution to this, although I have noted the 
opportunity for improvement.
I think that it is worth the empirical test to see if a direct request closes 
the space or opens the space for others to hear and be heard. It’s my opinion 
that once the problem has occurred late in the building of the marketplace, it 
is probably to late to do what is needed. It’s my opinion almost anything you 
say may close the space. As the facilitator your are “taking control ” if you 
add an rule of decorum at the moment the problem occurs.
I can imagine that the reason you are interested in requesting this behavior on 
the part of participants. Is that you are requesting that folks respect one 
another enough to listen to their ideas, that they are taking the courage to 
share with the group. For some this may be difficult.
Instead of waiting till the problem occurs late in the market place 
construction you might try something like the following.
As part of the description about the process. … * Come up put your ideas down 
on one of their pieces of paper. * Put your name on the sheet. * Standup and 
say your session title and name to the whole group. * Find a time for your 
session and drop if off in the market place.
Nothing unusual here.
Then you might add.
Everyone has an important roll during this phase even if you are not suggesting 
a topic. Please listen carefully to all of the ideas as they are bing 
suggested. We would like you to make sure that the important ideas are being 
suggested. This can be used to drive prompting late in the in gathering of 
ideas. Is there anyone who has though of an idea that has not been suggested. 
We would value you stepping forward with that idea ….
Now when the opportunity of move folks from the market place come up. You have 
put a rule into the game that very easily allows you to very gently welcome 
folks back to the circle to listen to the remaining ideas in order to make sure 
that all of the important issues have been raised.
Just my $0.02. I’ve not done well with this in the past. What do others think?
If anyone implements this or typically does this. I would love to hear any 
results.
--Tom Brown tgb...@gmail.com


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
 wrote:
Greetings All,

Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, more than 
1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their seats by the 
Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are getting announced and 
going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the last few folks do not 
really get heard.

So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics, 
"...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please return 
to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of the 
sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows down, we'll 
declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work. Thanks."

Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation.

If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you:

Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your view? Why 
or why not?



--
Daniel Mezick
Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
(203) 915 7248. Bio. [http://www.DanielMezick.com/] Blog. 
[http://www.NewTechUSA.net/blog/] Twitter. [https://twitter.com/DanielMezick]
Book: The Culture Game. [http://theculturegame.com/]
Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook. 
[http://www.amazon.com/OpenSpace-Agility-Handbook-Daniel-Mezick/dp/0984875336]

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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Tom Brown via OSList]

I love when those attending take on this self policing roll. What we are 
going for is self organization.


--Tom Brown tgb...@gmail.com


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Chuni Li via OSList 
 wrote:

Hi Dan,
"Please return to your seat after posting your session" is actually in my 
script. The fact that I say this doesn't mean chatting won't happen around 
the market place. But I think it's fine to state this request out of 
respect. What often happens is when it gets to noisy and people can't hear 
the new announcements, someone will always shout out to quiet the noise.

Chuni
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList < 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org [oslist@lists.openspacetech.org] > wrote:

Greetings All,

Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, more 
than 1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their seats 
by the Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are getting 
announced and going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the last 
few folks do not really get heard.


So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics, 
"...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please 
return to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of 
the sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows 
down, we'll declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work. 
Thanks."


Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation.

If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you:

Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your view? 
Why or why not?




--
Daniel Mezick
Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
(203) 915 7248 [tel:(203)%20915-7248] . Bio. [http://www.DanielMezick.com/] 
Blog. [http://www.NewTechUSA.net/blog/] Twitter. 
[https://twitter.com/DanielMezick]

Book: The Culture Game. [http://theculturegame.com/]
Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook. 
[http://www.amazon.com/OpenSpace-Agility-Handbook-Daniel-Mezick/dp/0984875336]


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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Alan Halford via OSList]

Me too!
Keeping it simple.  After I have opened the circle I follow HO’s lead and leave 
the circle and the room, coming back after about 10 min
By that time they have usually sorted it out and started.
Alan 

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On 31 Jan 2018, at 11:25 am, Tom Brown via OSList 
 wrote:


I love when those attending take on this self policing roll.  What we are going 
for is self organization.  

--Tom Brown
tgb...@gmail.com


On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Chuni Li via OSList 
 wrote:
Hi Dan,

"Please return to your seat after posting your session" is actually in my 
script.
The fact that I say this doesn't mean chatting won't happen around the market 
place. But I think it's fine to state this request out of respect.
What often happens is when it gets to noisy and people can't hear the new 
announcements, someone will always shout out to quiet the noise.

Chuni

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
Greetings All,

Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, more than 
1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their seats by the 
Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are getting announced and 
going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the last few folks do not 
really get heard.

So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics, 
"...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please return 
to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of the 
sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows down, we'll 
declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work. Thanks."

Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation. 

If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you: 

Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your view? Why 
or why not?


-- 
Daniel Mezick
Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
(203) 915 7248 . Bio.  
Blog.  Twitter. 
 
Book: The Culture Game.  
Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook. 
 

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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Dan Mezick via OSList]

The last time I facilitated was in India and I just let it ride. It seemed to 
work.

The wider issue is the requisite level of suggestion


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2018, at 10:25 PM, Tom Brown via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I love when those attending take on this self policing roll.  What we are 
> going for is self organization.  
> 
> --Tom Brown
> tgb...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Chuni Li via OSList 
>  wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> "Please return to your seat after posting your session" is actually in my 
> script.
> The fact that I say this doesn't mean chatting won't happen around the market 
> place. But I think it's fine to state this request out of respect.
> What often happens is when it gets to noisy and people can't hear the new 
> announcements, someone will always shout out to quiet the noise.
> 
> Chuni
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, more 
>> than 1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their seats 
>> by the Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are getting 
>> announced and going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the last few 
>> folks do not really get heard.
>> 
>> So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics, 
>> "...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please 
>> return to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of 
>> the sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows down, 
>> we'll declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work. Thanks."
>> 
>> Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation. 
>> 
>> If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you: 
>> 
>> Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your view? 
>> Why or why not?
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Daniel Mezick
>> Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
>> (203) 915 7248. Bio. Blog. Twitter. 
>> Book: The Culture Game. 
>> Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook. 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] OST facilitation technique: too prescriptive?

[Eva P Svensson via OSList]

HI all,
When  I remember :-) I use to say something like ”please return to your seat 
after posting your topic because there may be more topics coming up that will 
give you ideas of new topics to put up”
And as Thomas said when I sense that the energy for putting up topics is coming 
to an end I also say that and also ”but we will wait a little bit because maybe 
there are some people who is preparing themselves for putting up something” And 
I promise - there is always one or two who step into the circle and announce 
their topics.
Cheers
:o)
Eva

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> 30 jan. 2018 kl. 23:48 skrev Chuni Li via OSList 
> :
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> "Please return to your seat after posting your session" is actually in my 
> script. 
> The fact that I say this doesn't mean chatting won't happen around the market 
> place. But I think it's fine to state this request out of respect.
> What often happens is when it gets to noisy and people can't hear the new 
> announcements, someone will always shout out to quiet the noise.
> 
> Chuni
> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Greetings All,
> 
> Lately I am noticing that, at the end of the building of Marketplace, more 
> than 1/2 or even 2/3 of the people may be milling around out of their seats 
> by the Marketplace chatting while the last 10 or 15 sessions are getting 
> announced and going to the wall. It can get loud, and sometimes the last few 
> folks do not really get heard.
> 
> So I'm thinking of telling all the folks, as we start announcing topics, 
> "...After you post your session to the Marketplace, we ask you to please 
> return to your seat, to experience and hear the announcing of the rest of the 
> sessions. After all the announcements of all of the sessions slows down, 
> we'll declare the Marketplace open, leave our seats, and go to work. Thanks."
> 
> Assume there are 275-300 people in this situation. 
> 
> If you have experience, I have 2 questions for you: 
> 
> Is asking the folks to return to their seats too prescriptive in your view? 
> Why or why not?
> 
>  
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