[OSList] Twist

2017-02-13 Thread Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology

The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a fundamental
change to me... what do you think?


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Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-13 Thread Richard Kasperowski via OSList 
Hi, Bhavesh! I agree with you--it's a change, and it's not really OST. It's
more like a long-format World Cafe, with pre-set topics.

Cheers!


On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:14 PM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <
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> This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology
>
> The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a fundamental
> change to me... what do you think?
>
>
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Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-13 Thread Harrison Owen via OSList 
Ah yes. Regain Control ! Somebody is always trying. But the big secret is that 
you really can’t do it. Fools’ Errand. It isn’t a question of the “integrity of 
the process,” morality, good form – Truth is, self organization rules. It’s the 
way things are. Yes, we certainly can clutter things up, slow stuff down, add a 
little twist or turn – but at the end of the day, The Agenda will be set by all 
the people involved. Now it may happen that The Agenda will be set and worked 
at the coffee breaks, in the “comfort rooms,” or on the ride home … all of 
which seem like a bad waste of time to me, to say nothing of energy and 
creativity. But people will do the strangest things.

 

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Subject: [OSList] Twist

 

This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology

The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a fundamental 
change to me... what do you think?



Smiles Bhav...

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Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-13 Thread Phelim McDermott via OSList 
This “twist’ sounds like open space with uncomfortable underwear to me! puts my 
"knickers in a twist” as the English sometimes say. 

Phelim x


> On 13 Feb 2017, at 19:22, Richard Kasperowski via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Bhavesh! I agree with you--it's a change, and it's not really OST. It's 
> more like a long-format World Cafe, with pre-set topics.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:14 PM Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology 
> 
> 
> The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a fundamental 
> change to me... what do you think?
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-13 Thread Barry Owen via OSList 
That's almost . . . BarCamp
Not quite OST
But as Dad says . . . Whatever it is, it's going to Open Space whether they
intended it to or not.
or something . . .

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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Phelim McDermott via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> This “twist’ sounds like open space with uncomfortable underwear to me!
> puts my "knickers in a twist” as the English sometimes say.
>
> Phelim x
>
>
> On 13 Feb 2017, at 19:22, Richard Kasperowski via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi, Bhavesh! I agree with you--it's a change, and it's not really OST.
> It's more like a long-format World Cafe, with pre-set topics.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:14 PM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology
>>
>> The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a
>> fundamental change to me... what do you think?
>>
>>
>> Smiles Bhav...
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Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-14 Thread Eva P Svensson via OSList 
..and it's also wrong-it says that "facilitators lead and record the resulting 
discussions."..

I wonder how and if you can correct articles like this?
Cheers from Sweden
:o)
Eva

Skickat från min iPhone

> 13 feb. 2017 kl. 20:22 skrev Richard Kasperowski via OSList 
> :
> 
> Hi, Bhavesh! I agree with you--it's a change, and it's not really OST. It's 
> more like a long-format World Cafe, with pre-set topics.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:14 PM Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology
>> 
>> The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a fundamental 
>> change to me... what do you think?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-14 Thread Amanda Bucklow via OSList 
I did groan when I saw the ‘twist’. Often a twist makes something unbalanced or 
broken.

There is always a certain kind of pressure from clients to have an agenda. They 
don’t appreciate that it works better without and mostly because they haven’t 
experienced it. Some facilitators feel a compromise is the answer and again 
often it is worse because it becomes neither one thing nor the other.

Open Space for me, works best in its organic, non-gmo state, without icing or 
spice just human breath.

warm wishes to you, Harrison, from a very cold London.

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> On 13 Feb 2017, at 19:39, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah yes. Regain Control ! Somebody is always trying. But the big secret is 
> that you really can’t do it. Fools’ Errand. It isn’t a question of the 
> “integrity of the process,” morality, good form – Truth is, self organization 
> rules. It’s the way things are. Yes, we certainly can clutter things up, slow 
> stuff down, add a little twist or turn – but at the end of the day, The 
> Agenda will be set by all the people involved. Now it may happen that The 
> Agenda will be set and worked at the coffee breaks, in the “comfort rooms,” 
> or on the ride home … all of which seem like a bad waste of time to me, to 
> say nothing of energy and creativity. But people will do the strangest things.
>  
> Harrison
>  
>  
>  
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> Potomac, MD 20854
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>  
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> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Bhavesh Patel via OSList
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 2:14 PM
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> Subject: [OSList] Twist
>  
> This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology 
> <https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology>
> The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a fundamental 
> change to me... what do you think?
> 
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Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-14 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList 
There is more than just this one twist (which is already more than just a 
“twist”).

Also: 

-Grouping of topics by the facilitator

-Urging the conveners to have lots of passion (wonder why that would be 
necessary at all – could it be because of the “twists”?)

-One facilitator per session – if there is one thing that I have seen 
to suck away the energy, it is this one.

 

Always difficult what to do. Whenever I encounter people who tell me “Nah, Open 
Space doesn’t work, I have done it and it was dull and boring” it always turns 
out to have been an Open Space with a twist. But there is nothing one can do to 
stop this – and after all, the law of self organization will always prevail in 
the end. So let’s just stick to our own truth and not waste energy fighting 
other’s truths.

 

Koos

 

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..and it's also wrong-it says that "facilitators lead and record the resulting 
discussions."..

 

I wonder how and if you can correct articles like this?

Cheers from Sweden

:o)

Eva

Skickat från min iPhone


13 feb. 2017 kl. 20:22 skrev Richard Kasperowski via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >:

Hi, Bhavesh! I agree with you--it's a change, and it's not really OST. It's 
more like a long-format World Cafe, with pre-set topics.

 

Cheers!

 

 

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:14 PM Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > wrote:

This came across my desk: https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology

The guy talks about a 'twist' in the process that seems like a fundamental 
change to me... what do you think?



Smiles Bhav...

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