Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Harrison Owen via OSList]

Simple answer: The right people will be anybody who cares. And you can really 
only tell that they care when they come. Law of Two Feet. 

 

So get the word out everywhere. Parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, janitors, 
cooks, grounds keepers, taxi drivers, bus operators, ship captains, crew, 
police, fire people… If they care – They will come. And for sure they will be 
the right people. Works every time.

 

Harrison

 

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Subject: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples 
of Open Space meeting being set up?

 

Dear OS community

 

Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of 
Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?

 

I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, highschool/university 
students and young people who are recently out of school to the conversations. 
. ..but who else should be there?  

 

Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the possibility 
to share it with me.  

 

All the best

 

Ingibjorg (Inga)

 

ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com

Reykjavik, Iceland

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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I’ve used Open Space as a part of policy making work in the following contexts:

* Working with the Ministry of Advanced Education in British Columbia on 
Aboriginal post-secondary education policy
* Working with two alternative school programs in North Vancouver and Bowen 
Island, British Columbia to host discussions with parents and children around 
education policy
* Working with a school district and indigenous communities in Prince George BC 
to create an Aboriginal Choice School (also used World Cafe and participatory 
decision making to create recommendations for a site for that school)

As a part of the policy making process, Open Space is useful for including 
diverse stakeholders in the process. I would make sure that the participants in 
the process are allowed as much freedom as possible to tell their stories, 
convene there conversations and raise their issues.  Sometimes policy makers 
want to convene large groups to have stakeholders make policy. If you are 
including people like students, teachers and others in the conversation, you 
need to not have the expectation that they will make policy.  Let the policy 
makers work with the results to craft policy. Work with the conveners of the 
break out sessions later to keep them in the loop about how their work has 
informed the process.  

If you are only working with policy makers, then the Open Space will point to 
the overall most important issues to deal with in the policy framework.  Don’t 
use Open Space to make a decision, but instead, use the process the allow the 
group to explore a diversity of approaches to the issues and then have your 
core policy team work within that diversity of opinion.

Those are my reflections.  Let me know if you need anything else.  I’m sure 
others will weigh in as well.

Chris

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear OS community
> 
> Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of 
> Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
> 
> I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, highschool/university 
> students and young people who are recently out of school to the 
> conversations. . ..but who else should be there?  
> 
> Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the 
> possibility to share it with me.  
> 
> All the best
> 
> Ingibjorg (Inga)
> 
> ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com 
> Reykjavik, Iceland
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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Michael Herman via OSList]

here is a frequently shared favorite story, inga... complete proceedings
from "future of education in peoria," including invitation, what happened,
notes, voting results.  hosted by the school board.  invitation went home
with every kid and was posted as full-page newspaper ads.
http://www.michaelherman.com/publications/peoria.pdf   ...most interesting
result was that "parental responsibility" was top issue in voting.  the
exact opposite of what happens when the school board is empaneled on the
stage and the parents line up at the microphone in the center aisle of a
dim auditorium with one-way, stage-to-audience acoustical design.  
echoing some of what chris says, we worked hard to make a distinction
between participant stakeholders "envisioning" the future of eduction they
wanted and "enacting" it through spontaneous votes or other immediate
action.  the new superintendent took the top ten voted issues as her
working agenda for the new school year.



--

Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)

http://MichaelHerman.com
http://OpenSpaceWorld.org




On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:02 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> I’ve used Open Space as a part of policy making work in the following
> contexts:
>
> * Working with the Ministry of Advanced Education in British Columbia on
> Aboriginal post-secondary education policy
> * Working with two alternative school programs in North Vancouver and
> Bowen Island, British Columbia to host discussions with parents and
> children around education policy
> * Working with a school district and indigenous communities in Prince
> George BC to create an Aboriginal Choice School (also used World Cafe and
> participatory decision making to create recommendations for a site for that
> school)
>
> As a part of the policy making process, Open Space is useful for including
> diverse stakeholders in the process. I would make sure that the
> participants in the process are allowed as much freedom as possible to tell
> their stories, convene there conversations and raise their issues.
> Sometimes policy makers want to convene large groups to have stakeholders
> make policy. If you are including people like students, teachers and others
> in the conversation, you need to not have the expectation that they will
> make policy.  Let the policy makers work with the results to craft policy.
> Work with the conveners of the break out sessions later to keep them in the
> loop about how their work has informed the process.
>
> If you are only working with policy makers, then the Open Space will point
> to the overall most important issues to deal with in the policy framework.
> Don’t use Open Space to make a decision, but instead, use the process the
> allow the group to explore a diversity of approaches to the issues and then
> have your core policy team work within that diversity of opinion.
>
> Those are my reflections.  Let me know if you need anything else.  I’m
> sure others will weigh in as well.
>
> Chris
>
> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Dear OS community
>
> Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of
> Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
>
> I think it is important to invite children, teenagers,
> highschool/university students and young people who are recently out of
> school to the conversations. . ..but who else should be there?
>
> Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the
> possibility to share it with me.
>
> All the best
>
> Ingibjorg (Inga)
>
> ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com
> Reykjavik, Iceland
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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Inga,

some colleagues have already reported on their experiences and I imagine 
that there are many others that could add to that.


My take on your inquiry is different. I think, to put it briefly, that 
thinking and even working on it simply reduces the space and several 
important opportunities for those actually in charge of the event at hand.


What can be done, however, and I have seen this work many times, is to 
get the people sponsoring events regardless around what challenge to 
have a planning group/preparation group for the event at hand.


This planning group is a sort of extension of the sponsor who sets up 
the planning group. The way I usually describe the planning group is to 
have a bit of a microcosm of the kind of folks the sponsor would like to 
have or expect at the event.


The planning group is set up and meets as such just once (sometimes but 
rarely more than once) around four questions:


--- what do we envision as happening after the open space event (this 
brings up their intentions, interests, expectations, dreams, etc.)

--- what should be the overall topic, question, theme for the event
--- who all needs to be at the event to have our expectations met and 
addresses our overall topic
--- what are the tasks that need to be taken on before the event and who 
is in charge of them.


Your role as facilitator is then to just facilitate the planning 
session, taking responsibility for process and structure of that event 
and leave all the content to those participating (the sponsor and his 
helpers).


This kind of planning event makes sure from the very beginning that 
nothing context oriented will happen unless folks present take it up. 
Just as in an Open Space event itself.


The Planning session as described above take about 3,5 hours. I have 
used it in my praxis about 200 times before I published the detailed 
design. If you stick to the design I would not be surprised if it were 
to work everytime.


The effect is, that the event is entirely owned by those responsible for 
it.


Have a great day
Greetings from Berlin
mmp



Am 30.10.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList:

Dear OS community

Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making 
of Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?


I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, 
highschool/university students and young people who are recently out of 
school to the conversations. . ..but who else should be there?


Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the 
possibility to share it with me.


All the best

Ingibjorg (Inga)

ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com 
Reykjavik, Iceland


--
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Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000
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Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 469 resident Open 
Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 145 countries worldwide

www.openspaceworldmap.org

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German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual

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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Kári Gunnarsson via OSList]

Hi

After many discussions and sessions about inviting: minoritie, people of
less status compared to the main group of participants, vulnerable groups,
outsiders, or people who would not feel empowered to accept the invitation.
I have now a vision in my heart that my job as host or sponsorship coach is
to reach out to these groups that we want present for the open space.
Invite a representative delegation to be part of the planning process and
the wording of the theme and support them in their task to invite their
group to join with them in the event, using their own words in harmony with
the theme and purpose of the event.

I hope that brings some ideas for deliberation in reaching out to make a
solid invitation to different groups.

/Kári

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018, 21:30 Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

> Dear OS community
>
> Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of
> Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
>
> I think it is important to invite children, teenagers,
> highschool/university students and young people who are recently out of
> school to the conversations. . ..but who else should be there?
>
> Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the
> possibility to share it with me.
>
> All the best
>
> Ingibjorg (Inga)
>
> ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com
> Reykjavik, Iceland
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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Harrison right on the core of the issue.  One thing that may help is to locate 
the OS event at a well used local meeting place and to ensure that “coffee and 
finger food snacks” are available at a reasonable cost.  It also helps if the 
food is what the groups would normally expect at a meeting.  I have conducted 
OS meetings in all sorts of spaces,  they have been spaces where the 
participants feel comfortable!

Create the space and the people will come!

Regards
Rob

> On 31 Oct 2018, at 5:57 am, Harrison Owen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Simple answer: The right people will be anybody who cares. And you can really 
> only tell that they care when they come. Law of Two Feet.
>  
> So get the word out everywhere. Parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, 
> janitors, cooks, grounds keepers, taxi drivers, bus operators, ship captains, 
> crew, police, fire people… If they care – They will come. And for sure they 
> will be the right people. Works every time.
>  
> Harrison
>  
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of 
> Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:20 PM
> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> Cc: Ingibjorg Gisladottir
> Subject: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy 
> -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?
>  
> Dear OS community
>  
> Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of 
> Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
>  
> I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, highschool/university 
> students and young people who are recently out of school to the 
> conversations. . ..but who else should be there?  
>  
> Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the 
> possibility to share it with me.  
>  
> All the best
>  
> Ingibjorg (Inga)
>  
> ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com
> Reykjavik, Iceland
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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Thomas Herrmann via OSList]

Hi Inga

I add an example from 15 years back when I facilitated an OST with participants 
from 16 municipalities in Sweden around the theme How do we create the future 
“gymnasieskola” (grade 10-12). I think there were about 100 participants, 
mainly youth and politicians.

I still remember some comments in the closing circle: Some of the student 
expressed astonishment “it is actually possible to talk with politicians”. Some 
of the politicians expressed astonishment “it  is actually possible to talk 
with youth”. Rocket science? No, but still people often think they cannot have 
good conversations with each other. And of course the traditionally used 
structures are not really working.

So open up space 😊

 

As convergence people from the same municipality met to decide what they wanted 
to take home and continue to work on locally now. Otherwise the main aim was to 
get input into the process of reforming the school system on a national level.

Thomas

 

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Ämne: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of 
Open Space meeting being set up?

 

Dear OS community

 

Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of 
Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?

 

I think it is important to invite children, teenagers, highschool/university 
students and young people who are recently out of school to the conversations. 
. ..but who else should be there?  

 

Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the possibility 
to share it with me.  

 

All the best

 

Ingibjorg (Inga)

 

ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com  

Reykjavik, Iceland

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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList]

Dear friends

Thank you all for your valuable input - The next days I will dive further
into the links and info you sent me and I may get back to you.

Up till now, when educational authorities, in my city of 125.000 habitants
(where I have worked in HR past 15 years), have wanted consultation, they
have made sure (with good intentions) that every educational institution is
equally represented in group discussion.

Teachers and parents are the obvious group to be invited in the minds of
officials, then at some point, later in the planning process someone says:
 "What about the children, should we perhaps ask them?"  Each principal
school leader has been asked to select 2 teachers/professionals
representing the staff in that school, 2 parents and 2 children and they
have been invited to meetings where staff is together in one meeting,
another meeting is set up for parents and the third for children. So it is
only the people that are within the current system who take part in the
discussion.  And the results are more or less the same!  Perhaps a little
shift in focus. Parents feel that school should be like it was when they
were young, teachers want to segregate the children so that the difficult
ones are out of their classroom -and the voice of the children is very much
underrepresented in the discussion although their discussion was most to
the point, they followed the instructions and were the group who came up
with most of the new ideas.

I am working on a "proposal" for the ministry of education where I want to
be invited to take part in the planning of the conversation/consultation on
a national level.  I feel that OS is the right meeting format and am hoping
that broader range of issues and perspectives will be brought up.  Together
with children, parents and teachers/school leaders/professional I would
like to invite people from outside of the educational system, universities,
people (staff/leaders) working in different sectors and industries,
futurists and innovators, young people who recently  entered the "real
world" of living independently and supporting themselves, people with
different background and who themselves were in schooled abroad. Those who
dropped out of school, are unemployed, minorities, people with disabilities
etc.

And I want them to be together in a meeting so it will be a versatile
group. It is pretty much an open invitation where everyone could attend, I
guess.
But how to go about the invitation and meeting setup? Is it going to be one
large meeting or many in different parts of the country? Although Iceland
has only 350.000 habitants they are very much spread around the relatively
large island (compared to no of habitants) and transportation can be
complicated and expensive.  How should the invitation and theme be, so that
it appeals to the groups mentioned? These are some of the questions I need
to reflect on and discuss with ministry officials.

Enough for now, I felt like sharing my thoughts with you - your insight and
comments will be welcomed.

Have a great day

Ingibjörg  (Inga)

Reykjavík, Iceland
ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com




fim., 1. nóv. 2018 kl. 17:55 skrifaði Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:

> Hi Inga
>
> I add an example from 15 years back when I facilitated an OST with
> participants from 16 municipalities in Sweden around the theme How do we
> create the future “gymnasieskola” (grade 10-12). I think there were about
> 100 participants, mainly youth and politicians.
>
> I still remember some comments in the closing circle: Some of the student
> expressed astonishment “it is actually possible to talk with politicians”.
> Some of the politicians expressed astonishment “it  is actually possible to
> talk with youth”. Rocket science? No, but still people often think they
> cannot have good conversations with each other. And of course the
> traditionally used structures are not really working.
>
> So open up space 😊
>
>
>
> As convergence people from the same municipality met to decide what they
> wanted to take home and continue to work on locally now. Otherwise the main
> aim was to get input into the process of reforming the school system on a
> national level.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> *Från:* OSList  *För *Ingibjorg
> Gisladottir via OSList
> *Skickat:* den 30 oktober 2018 18:20
> *Till:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> *Kopia:* Ingibjorg Gisladottir 
> *Ämne:* [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy
> -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?
>
>
>
> Dear OS community
>
>
>
> Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making of
> Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
>
>
>
> I think it is important to invite children, teenagers,
> highschool/university students and young people who are recently out of
> school to the conversations. . ..but who else should be there?
>
>
>
> Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the
> possibility to share it with me.
>
>

Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList]

Dear Micheal
Thank you for sharing this preparation process. This is very valuable, and
I realise now when I re-read it that I have probably been overthinking the
preparation process like I had hosting responsibility and was responsible
for the educational policy.

Will take this in, reflect on it and realign my thinking!

Inga

mið., 31. okt. 2018 kl. 05:50 skrifaði Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:

> Dear Inga,
>
> some colleagues have already reported on their experiences and I imagine
> that there are many others that could add to that.
>
> My take on your inquiry is different. I think, to put it briefly, that
> thinking and even working on it simply reduces the space and several
> important opportunities for those actually in charge of the event at hand.
>
> What can be done, however, and I have seen this work many times, is to
> get the people sponsoring events regardless around what challenge to
> have a planning group/preparation group for the event at hand.
>
> This planning group is a sort of extension of the sponsor who sets up
> the planning group. The way I usually describe the planning group is to
> have a bit of a microcosm of the kind of folks the sponsor would like to
> have or expect at the event.
>
> The planning group is set up and meets as such just once (sometimes but
> rarely more than once) around four questions:
>
> --- what do we envision as happening after the open space event (this
> brings up their intentions, interests, expectations, dreams, etc.)
> --- what should be the overall topic, question, theme for the event
> --- who all needs to be at the event to have our expectations met and
> addresses our overall topic
> --- what are the tasks that need to be taken on before the event and who
> is in charge of them.
>
> Your role as facilitator is then to just facilitate the planning
> session, taking responsibility for process and structure of that event
> and leave all the content to those participating (the sponsor and his
> helpers).
>
> This kind of planning event makes sure from the very beginning that
> nothing context oriented will happen unless folks present take it up.
> Just as in an Open Space event itself.
>
> The Planning session as described above take about 3,5 hours. I have
> used it in my praxis about 200 times before I published the detailed
> design. If you stick to the design I would not be surprised if it were
> to work everytime.
>
> The effect is, that the event is entirely owned by those responsible for
> it.
>
> Have a great day
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
> Am 30.10.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList:
> > Dear OS community
> >
> > Can anyone lead me to examples of where OS has been used in the making
> > of Educational Policy of a nation/state/community?
> >
> > I think it is important to invite children, teenagers,
> > highschool/university students and young people who are recently out of
> > school to the conversations. . ..but who else should be there?
> >
> > Your insights on this and experience is appreciated if you have the
> > possibility to share it with me.
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Ingibjorg (Inga)
> >
> > ingibjorg.gisladot...@gmail.com 
> > Reykjavik, Iceland
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Re: [OSList] Marking a New National/Regional Educational Policy -examples of Open Space meeting being set up?

[John Engle via OSList]

Hi Ingibjorg,

I love your idea about regional meetings around education and making sure that 
children and youth are a big part of it.

Like others on this list I’ve had great experiences with open space and young 
people, including in schools.

My two cents is to carefully build a planning committee that is a microcosm of 
the people you hope to participate overall and tackle all the logistics issues 
and strategy with them. 

In terms of regional open space mtgs to inform a national policy, a couple 
years ago USAID hired me to lead 6 regional open space mtgs with cross section 
of people-local authorities, grassroots leaders, private sector, etc—to help 
inform USAID’s five year strategy. Meetings were approximately 8:30 am to 3:30 
pm and averaged 150 people each. It’s a small sampling but a step in the right 
direction. Participants engaged enthusiastically and produced notes and reports 
that USAID combed through.

Yours is a beautiful and inspiring project, Ingibjorg.

Appreciatively,

John Engle
Director & Co-Founder 
Haiti Partners
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> On Nov 2, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Ingibjorg Gisladottir via OSList 
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