Re: "Loading data exception"

[Jack Burke]

I get that periodically on my phone, too, and do not have an explanation 
for it.  For me, it only happens occasionally, usually.  However, there was 
one time when it began happening 100% of the time on my test phone running 
the nightly build.  Even reinstalling the previous build didn't help.  I 
ended up powering off my phone, then rebooting, and that seemed to have 
cleared it. So, maybe that might help you?

--jack

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 4:06:31 AM UTC-5 pwat...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> "Loading data exception" is repeatedly shown whenever I try to plan a 
> route on one of my devices.  It fails to calculate even any very short 
> route.
> It is running Osmand + 3.8.4 on Andoid 4.4.4.
> Any suggestions?
>

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Re: NIghtly build process change?

[Jack Burke]

I have had the "android-full" one on my test phone for a few days now.  It 
seems to work as I expect it to.

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 2:51:47 PM UTC-5 Jack Burke wrote:

> Whoever has the time first, updates the other on the result!
>
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-5 pebo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Jack, it looks like you are right. I will test it in the next days.
>> Thanks a lot for this hint, I did not pay attention to that file.
>> Peter 
>>
>> burk...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2021 um 23:06:45 UTC+1:
>>
>>> Peter, if I'm reading the updated build documentation right, then the 
>>> "android-Full" build would be the equivalent of what you and I have been 
>>> testing, just without Google services, and "gplay-Full" would pretty much 
>>> be exactly what we used to use, except that it doesn't exist on the 
>>> latest-night-build download page.  Do you read it the same way?
>>>
>>> --jack
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:22 AM UTC-5 pebo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YES it changed, already reported and answered:
>>>> https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/10645
>>>> Unfortunately the "old" nightly osmand-nightly.apk was labeled *plus* 
>>>> version (net.osmand.plus)
>>>> whereas the "new" nightly OsmAnd-default.apk is labeled *NON-Plus* 
>>>> version (net.osmand.dev).
>>>>
>>>> So users who want to continue in participating in testing have now to: 
>>>> - export all settings/profiles of "old" OsmAnd+ nightly
>>>> - install OsmAnd-default.apk
>>>> - import settings/profiles in "new" (NON-plus) OsmAnd-default.apk
>>>> - ckeck all settings, there might be (I hope only) minor differences
>>>> Depending on the location of install (memory internal / micro-sd-card) 
>>>> and android version it MAY BE possible to share storage for maps and other 
>>>> data of old and new version, if you want to keep it both.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun, Peter :-~
>>>> burk...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 25. Januar 2021 um 19:43:44 UTC+1:
>>>>
>>>>> Periodically I download the latest full "nightly" build (I assume an 
>>>>> automated Jenkins process makes it) to test navigation and see what bugs 
>>>>> might have been introduced (and yes, I do find some, and report them).
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously, the build was simply called "nightly" and was easy to 
>>>>> find.  The devs appear to have changed the build process, now, and that 
>>>>> name no longer appears (attached screenshot).  Before I bug them about 
>>>>> it, 
>>>>> does anyone happen to know what they changed it to?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that "default" is the free (non-paid) nightly build, but I did 
>>>>> pay for the app, and I think that being able to provide feedback to the 
>>>>> devs helps increase the value of the software I paid for, so I like to 
>>>>> try 
>>>>> to do that when time permits.
>>>>>
>>>>> --jack
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: NIghtly build process change?

[Jack Burke]

Whoever has the time first, updates the other on the result!

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-5 pebo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jack, it looks like you are right. I will test it in the next days.
> Thanks a lot for this hint, I did not pay attention to that file.
> Peter 
>
> burk...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2021 um 23:06:45 UTC+1:
>
>> Peter, if I'm reading the updated build documentation right, then the 
>> "android-Full" build would be the equivalent of what you and I have been 
>> testing, just without Google services, and "gplay-Full" would pretty much 
>> be exactly what we used to use, except that it doesn't exist on the 
>> latest-night-build download page.  Do you read it the same way?
>>
>> --jack
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:22 AM UTC-5 pebo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> YES it changed, already reported and answered:
>>> https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/10645
>>> Unfortunately the "old" nightly osmand-nightly.apk was labeled *plus* 
>>> version (net.osmand.plus)
>>> whereas the "new" nightly OsmAnd-default.apk is labeled *NON-Plus* 
>>> version (net.osmand.dev).
>>>
>>> So users who want to continue in participating in testing have now to: 
>>> - export all settings/profiles of "old" OsmAnd+ nightly
>>> - install OsmAnd-default.apk
>>> - import settings/profiles in "new" (NON-plus) OsmAnd-default.apk
>>> - ckeck all settings, there might be (I hope only) minor differences
>>> Depending on the location of install (memory internal / micro-sd-card) 
>>> and android version it MAY BE possible to share storage for maps and other 
>>> data of old and new version, if you want to keep it both.
>>>
>>> Have fun, Peter :-~
>>> burk...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 25. Januar 2021 um 19:43:44 UTC+1:
>>>
 Periodically I download the latest full "nightly" build (I assume an 
 automated Jenkins process makes it) to test navigation and see what bugs 
 might have been introduced (and yes, I do find some, and report them).

 Previously, the build was simply called "nightly" and was easy to 
 find.  The devs appear to have changed the build process, now, and that 
 name no longer appears (attached screenshot).  Before I bug them about it, 
 does anyone happen to know what they changed it to?

 I know that "default" is the free (non-paid) nightly build, but I did 
 pay for the app, and I think that being able to provide feedback to the 
 devs helps increase the value of the software I paid for, so I like to try 
 to do that when time permits.

 --jack




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Re: NIghtly build process change?

[Jack Burke]

Peter, if I'm reading the updated build documentation right, then the 
"android-Full" build would be the equivalent of what you and I have been 
testing, just without Google services, and "gplay-Full" would pretty much 
be exactly what we used to use, except that it doesn't exist on the 
latest-night-build download page.  Do you read it the same way?

--jack

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:22 AM UTC-5 pebo...@gmail.com wrote:

> YES it changed, already reported and answered:
> https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/10645
> Unfortunately the "old" nightly osmand-nightly.apk was labeled *plus* 
> version (net.osmand.plus)
> whereas the "new" nightly OsmAnd-default.apk is labeled *NON-Plus* 
> version (net.osmand.dev).
>
> So users who want to continue in participating in testing have now to: 
> - export all settings/profiles of "old" OsmAnd+ nightly
> - install OsmAnd-default.apk
> - import settings/profiles in "new" (NON-plus) OsmAnd-default.apk
> - ckeck all settings, there might be (I hope only) minor differences
> Depending on the location of install (memory internal / micro-sd-card) and 
> android version it MAY BE possible to share storage for maps and other data 
> of old and new version, if you want to keep it both.
>
> Have fun, Peter :-~
> burk...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 25. Januar 2021 um 19:43:44 UTC+1:
>
>> Periodically I download the latest full "nightly" build (I assume an 
>> automated Jenkins process makes it) to test navigation and see what bugs 
>> might have been introduced (and yes, I do find some, and report them).
>>
>> Previously, the build was simply called "nightly" and was easy to find.  
>> The devs appear to have changed the build process, now, and that name no 
>> longer appears (attached screenshot).  Before I bug them about it, does 
>> anyone happen to know what they changed it to?
>>
>> I know that "default" is the free (non-paid) nightly build, but I did pay 
>> for the app, and I think that being able to provide feedback to the devs 
>> helps increase the value of the software I paid for, so I like to try to do 
>> that when time permits.
>>
>> --jack
>>
>>
>>

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Re: I can't run osmandmapcreator on windows 10

[Jack Burke]

Are you sure you're using the 64 bit version of Java? Do you have more than 
one version of Java installed? And, have you tried Run As Administrator to 
start the osmmc .bat file? 

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:30:31 PM UTC-6 El Usuario wrote:

> in any version of windows 10 I can't run the program.
> If I configure the values for RAM, the program does not start and issues 
> the following error:
>
> error: could not create the java virtual machine
> error: a fatal exception has occurred. program will exit
>
> If I don't configure the use of RAM, the program starts, but shortly after 
> starting to work the obf file issues the following error.
>
> java.lang.outofmemoryerror: java heap space
>
> How should I configure in the osmandmapcreator.bat file or in windows 
> itself so that it works?
>
> In windows 7 I have no problems.
>
> On my PC I use windows 7 64 bits, java 64bits, 12 GB RAM and core i3 2370 
> 2.4 Ghz.
>

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Highlighting roads by vehicle type

[Jack Burke]

Hi all.  I was wondering if there's a straightforward way to highlight 
roads by vehicle type?  Specifically, I'm interested in being able to see 
roads tagged motorcar=no.  I've tried tinkering with various combinations 
of map detail settings in OsmAnd, but haven't found one that works for what 
I want.  Or, would this be a custom map style that I'd have to create?

--jack

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download maps for old version (1.9.5)

[Jack Burke]

You might be able to generate your own map files. If you download an old 
version of OsmMapCreator from the same date as your version of OsmAnd (and 
possibly an old version of Java from the same era), then you can give it a try. 

Jack

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Navigation vs. phone calls

[Jack Burke]

That's more a function of your phone than OsmAnd. What kind of phone do you 
have? Android has a setting (somewhere) that displays a minimal popup window 
for incoming calls that doesn't take up the whole screen, and is easy to 
dismiss. 

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Openstreetcam - Fine adjustment

[Jack Burke]

This is a forum for OsmAnd. For help with openstreetcam you will need to 
contact them. 

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Re: gpx file transfer from PC to smartphone

[Jack Burke]

You can also email the .gpx file to yourself, and use the mail app on your 
phone to download it. 

But, it sounds like you aren't having a problem getting it to your phone, but 
rather a problem opening it in OsmAnd once you do -- is that correct? 

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Re: "Builds" menu item missing from recent nightly builds?

[Jack Burke]

Hi Harry.

Until very recently, the full version of the nightly build had a menu item 
"Builds" near the very bottom of the menu, next to Version and Help.  You could 
press that, and it would pull up a list of all the latest nightly build 
variants.  Tapping on one of those would have OsmAmd offer to download and 
install that one. 

The menu item is now gone. 

-jack

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"Builds" menu item missing from recent nightly builds?

[Jack Burke]

No one else has seen this? Or... no one else cares? 

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"Builds" menu item missing from recent nightly builds?

[Jack Burke]

Before I open a case in Github, I wanted to see if any other nightly build 
users have noticed that the Builds menu item is missing

-jack

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Re: Can't start navigation, too far from nearest roaf

[Jack Burke]

Let me try to explain this in a different way; long-time users (Harry, et. 
atl.), feel free to correct me on any of this.

Erik, yes, you _can_ use the online map features for routing.  However, 
first please understand that the online map services are separate 
organizations from OsmAnd, and might not have recently-updated map data.  
Some are known to not update their map data for months, or even years.  The 
OsmAnd developers cannot make them provide more recent updates; they are 
simply different companies, each with their own goals.  Why are they still 
offered in OsmAnd?  Because many users still want the ability, even with 
outdated map data.

Within OsmAnd, the base World Overview Map is exactly that--an *overview* 
map of the world.  It only provides the most important highways as set in 
the OpenStreetMap database.  It does not include most local roads and 
streets, such as in residential areas where people live.  Using 3rd party 
data along with tools provided by the OsmAnd developers, you can generate a 
complete world road map with complete local road details, but the effort 
would take a few weeks, and require dozens of gigabytes of data..

In order to get the most capability from OsmAnd, you really do need to 
download the offline area maps (nation/country, state, region) where you 
live, and want to travel through/to, and use OsmAnd's internal routing 
function.  You can still use the offline maps with the online routers, and 
get a reasonably accurate route to your destination, but the offline maps 
are still needed.  For myself, I have found that the offline maps and 
OsmAnd's internal routing engine usually generate good navigation data, 
often comparable to specialized routing applications such as Waze (without 
the live traffic information that Waze and Google have access to).  Of 
course, OsmAnd's route abilities are totally dependent on accurate 
information in the OSM map database; I've encountered several situations 
where OsmAnd *shouldn't* have routed me a particular way, but the fault was 
in OSM, not OsmAnd.  And also, in several of those cases, a comparable 
route from Google also sent me down bad roads, because their map database 
also had poor data.  Then there's this recent routing fiasco in the United 
States from Google:  
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/06/27/google-maps-detour-drivers-muddy-field-denver-airport/

The OsmAnd developers are often tweaking their routing engine, and so 
sometimes the route generated by one version of the app may differ slightly 
from the one generated by another version, but they are usually similar.

--jack

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Open Openstreetmap.org (way) URLs with OsmAnd.

[Jack Burke]

It wasn't written to process those. 

You can log a feature request here: 
https://github.com/osmandapp

-jack 

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OsmAnd crashes during navigation on Android

[Jack Burke]

Well, so much for that idea. 

I think it creates an exception log file.  Look at the top level of whichever 
storage it's installed on. 

Also, usually when it crashes, on the next launch, it should have prompt at the 
bottom of the screen to send a message to the devs or dismiss  Do you see 
that?

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OsmAnd crashes during navigation on Android

[Jack Burke]

Silly question, but have you tried rebooting your phone? 

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Re: "Directions from" not working?

[Jack Burke]

Thanks for the confirmation, Harry.

Do you want to file it, or do you want me to? 

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"Directions from" not working?

[Jack Burke]

Before I report a bug, I wanted to ask if anyone else is having a problem with 
OsmAnd ignoring a start point set with the Directions From feature, and instead 
using your current location. 

-jack

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OSMAnd Live Map Updates vs Downloaded Maps

[Jack Burke]

You need both, and you're seeing both. 

Think of the Live updates as patches for the downloaded map.  The Live updates 
include changes made to the map database in OSM since your last full map 
download. 

-jack

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Re: OSMAND+ iOS

[Jack Burke]

I don't have an iThing, so I don't completely understand how OsmAnd for iPhones 
is sold, but I believe that the iPhone version has all of the features 
activated, but you have to buy the maps separately, unlike the Android version. 

iPeople, please correct me

-jack

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Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

[Jack Burke]

Strange...my last response got deleted somehow.

Anyway, in routing.xml, I find these entries:

select value="$maxspeed:practical" t="maxspeed:practical"
select value="$maxspeed:advisory" t="maxspeed:advisory"
select value="$maxspeed" t="maxspeed"

I interpret those to mean that maxspeed:practical will get used if 
maxspeed:advisory and maxspeed aren't present, and that maxspeed:advisory 
will be used if maxspeed isn't present.  I can't find maxspeed:typical 
anywhere in the file.

More experienced OsmAnd users might be able to help.  (Harry?  Bart?)

--jack


On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 11:38:44 AM UTC-5, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> Paul Johnson > writes: 
>
> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:27 Greg Troxel  
> wrote: 
> > 
> >> Paul Johnson > writes: 
> >> 
> >> I see maxspeed:typical as being for the flow of mixed traffic that is 
> >> being reasonable. 
> > 
> > Not sure this is a tag we even need in this case, since it can be 
> inferred 
> > automatically from the GPX database. 
>
> I have been thinking of getting around to matching up GPX and OSM, but 
> more to add advisory/practical when it's out of whack with limits.  But 
> perhaps the map building process could extract that. 
>
> I gather that apple maps use the equivalent of real-time gpx from others 
> to inform routing. 
>
> >> However, my specific example is a ramp where the advisory signs say 20 
> >> mph but traffic is 99% of the time moving between 35mph (if there's a 
> >> cautious truck) and 50 mph (just cars, people familiar).  The 20 signs 
> >> are because trucks going >50 keep rolling over, I think - which does 
> not 
> >> make sense. 
> >> 
> > 
> > Keep in mind in the US and Canada, the advisory speeds are meant for 
> > average family cars, trucks are advised to go slower.  Not saying that 
> it's 
> > not always feasible to go faster than that, but it is the speed you're 
> > going to be able to traverse that section in a regular car on dry 
> pavement 
> > without having to make abrupt moves or brake hard either due to the 
> design 
> > of the road or typical traffic congestion. That said, Americans are 
> > aggressive drivers that  typically take a much more aggressive approach 
> > than they're advised to, esp. in familiar areas... 
>
> That is the theory, and I agree with it.  I sort of see it as "what 
> speed can you travel the ramp and not exceed 0.4g lateral" or something 
> like that. 
>
> Under that theory, the ramp in question would be 40, not 20, and the 
> other one would be 30 or even 25, not 35.  They are just signed not 
> using the guidelines. 
>
> > The tippy truck signs indicate to large vehicle drivers that they will 
> need 
> > to play on the side of extra caution because the location has been prone 
> to 
> > rollovers, the advised speed is still tuned to cars, however. 
>
> In theory it is tuned to cars.  It seems in this case that the trucks 
> kept tipping, and every crash - despite the trucks going clearly too 
> fast - they added more tippy truck signs and lowered the advisory speed. 
> So it's more like "if we post it 20 trucks might slow down to 40" in 
> this case.  Which leads to MA drivers not believing that the advisory 
> speeds are appropriate. 
>

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Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

[Jack Burke]

It's been several months since I last looked at the routing.xml file, but 
as I recall, it appeared to recognize maxspeed:advisory=* and 
maxspeed:advised=* if and only if maxspeed=* was absent.

IIRC, it also recognized maxsped:practical=* but I don't recall if that was 
only in the absence of maxspeed=* or not.

I do not recall seeing maxspeed:typical anywhere in the file.

Give me a little time and I'll go pull the latest routing.xml and look 
again.

--jack


On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 11:38:44 AM UTC-5, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> Paul Johnson > writes: 
>
> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:27 Greg Troxel  
> wrote: 
> > 
> >> Paul Johnson > writes: 
> >> 
> >> I see maxspeed:typical as being for the flow of mixed traffic that is 
> >> being reasonable. 
> > 
> > Not sure this is a tag we even need in this case, since it can be 
> inferred 
> > automatically from the GPX database. 
>
> I have been thinking of getting around to matching up GPX and OSM, but 
> more to add advisory/practical when it's out of whack with limits.  But 
> perhaps the map building process could extract that. 
>
> I gather that apple maps use the equivalent of real-time gpx from others 
> to inform routing. 
>
> >> However, my specific example is a ramp where the advisory signs say 20 
> >> mph but traffic is 99% of the time moving between 35mph (if there's a 
> >> cautious truck) and 50 mph (just cars, people familiar).  The 20 signs 
> >> are because trucks going >50 keep rolling over, I think - which does 
> not 
> >> make sense. 
> >> 
> > 
> > Keep in mind in the US and Canada, the advisory speeds are meant for 
> > average family cars, trucks are advised to go slower.  Not saying that 
> it's 
> > not always feasible to go faster than that, but it is the speed you're 
> > going to be able to traverse that section in a regular car on dry 
> pavement 
> > without having to make abrupt moves or brake hard either due to the 
> design 
> > of the road or typical traffic congestion. That said, Americans are 
> > aggressive drivers that  typically take a much more aggressive approach 
> > than they're advised to, esp. in familiar areas... 
>
> That is the theory, and I agree with it.  I sort of see it as "what 
> speed can you travel the ramp and not exceed 0.4g lateral" or something 
> like that. 
>
> Under that theory, the ramp in question would be 40, not 20, and the 
> other one would be 30 or even 25, not 35.  They are just signed not 
> using the guidelines. 
>
> > The tippy truck signs indicate to large vehicle drivers that they will 
> need 
> > to play on the side of extra caution because the location has been prone 
> to 
> > rollovers, the advised speed is still tuned to cars, however. 
>
> In theory it is tuned to cars.  It seems in this case that the trucks 
> kept tipping, and every crash - despite the trucks going clearly too 
> fast - they added more tippy truck signs and lowered the advisory speed. 
> So it's more like "if we post it 20 trucks might slow down to 40" in 
> this case.  Which leads to MA drivers not believing that the advisory 
> speeds are appropriate. 
>

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Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

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For some reason, my replies to this thread are being deleted

In routing.xml, I see maxspeed:practical, maxspeed:advisory, and maxspeed.

My take is that OsmAnd uses them in that order, with the later ones taking 
precedence over an earlier one. 

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Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

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OsmAnd does use maxspeed:advisory when just plain maxspeed=* is absent. Has 
used it for a while now. 

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Springs are food?

[Jack Burke]

Does anyone know why springs (as in, water sources) are included when you 
search the category Food? 

Wondering if I should come a bug report

-jack

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Re: Back from Europe- now I have a problem!

[Jack Burke]

Are you running the beta version or a nightly build? There was a bug like this 
introduced a few weeks ago, but has since been fixed. 

https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6193

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Re: Maybe it's me but....

[Jack Burke]

No, it's not you.  While the "new" search feature has some benefits, there 
are also several weaknesses, one of which you found.  Unfortunately, the 
devs standard response is "download the latest map files," which doesn't 
actually fix the problem.

--jack


On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:57:59 PM UTC-4, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> Currently cycling across Europe and I cannot seem to make the POI's work 
> for me when I want find say campgrounds or bike shops. I will enter 
> campground in the search but it will show campgrounds miles/kilometeres 
> away when I am right next to one!
> What am I doing wrong?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
> Thanks!

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OsmAndMapCreator crashes

[Jack Burke]

Has anyone tried to use OsmAndMapCreator to build maps lately?  I'm trying 
with the version I downloaded yesterday, and it's crashing with this:

java.sql.SQLException: [SQLITE_CORRUPT]  The database disk image is 
malformed (database disk image is malformed)
at org.sqlite.DB.newSQLException(DB.java:383)
at org.sqlite.DB.newSQLException(DB.java:387)
at org.sqlite.DB.execute(DB.java:342)
at org.sqlite.Stmt.exec(Stmt.java:65)
at org.sqlite.Stmt.executeQuery(Stmt.java:122)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.OsmDbAccessor.computeRealCounts(OsmDbAccessor.java:264)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.OsmDbAccessor.iterateOverEntities(OsmDbAccessor.java:216)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.OsmDbAccessor.iterateOverEntities(OsmDbAccessor.java:207)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.IndexCreator.indexRelations(IndexCreator.java:764)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.IndexCreator.generateIndexes(IndexCreator.java:600)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.IndexCreator.generateIndexes(IndexCreator.java:531)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.generateIndex(IndexBatchCreator.java:557)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.generatedIndexes(IndexBatchCreator.java:466)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.runBatch(IndexBatchCreator.java:309)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.main(IndexBatchCreator.java:159)

Sep 08, 2018 12:16:03 PM net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator generateIndex
SEVERE: Exception generating indexes for Us_georgia_northamerica.osm.pbf
java.sql.SQLException: [SQLITE_CORRUPT]  The database disk image is 
malformed (database disk image is malformed)
at org.sqlite.DB.newSQLException(DB.java:383)
at org.sqlite.DB.newSQLException(DB.java:387)
at org.sqlite.DB.execute(DB.java:342)
at org.sqlite.Stmt.exec(Stmt.java:65)
at org.sqlite.Stmt.executeQuery(Stmt.java:122)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.OsmDbAccessor.computeRealCounts(OsmDbAccessor.java:264)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.OsmDbAccessor.iterateOverEntities(OsmDbAccessor.java:216)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.OsmDbAccessor.iterateOverEntities(OsmDbAccessor.java:207)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.IndexCreator.indexRelations(IndexCreator.java:764)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.IndexCreator.generateIndexes(IndexCreator.java:600)
at 
net.osmand.obf.preparation.IndexCreator.generateIndexes(IndexCreator.java:531)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.generateIndex(IndexBatchCreator.java:557)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.generatedIndexes(IndexBatchCreator.java:466)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.runBatch(IndexBatchCreator.java:309)
at 
net.osmand.util.IndexBatchCreator.main(IndexBatchCreator.java:159)


I'm not a Java guy, so I have no idea where to start digging to find the 
problem  :-(

--jack

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Re: Speed assumptions

[Jack Burke]

Hi Martin, 

No, don't create a subdirectory for the file, put it in your OsmAnd data 
directory. The same directory where your .obf map files are located. 

There is no existing copy of the file in that directory. It is included in the 
application code, and that version is used UNLESS OsmAnd finds a copy in the 
data directory. 

-jack

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Re: Speed assumptions

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You can, but not in the application itself. You have to download the 
routing.xml file from the github repository, change the default speed limits, 
then save it to your OsmAnd data directory  

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Re: Warn / Info Mode in Osmand without navigation?

[Jack Burke]

I *think* it already does this if you switch the map to car mode (even without 
a route planned). Tap the globe at the top left, then the car icon.

I'll have to test it to be sure. 

And pretty sure you can configure browse mode to do it, too.

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Navigation can randomly change the destination without notice

[Jack Burke]

*scratches head* I can't think of a time when it has ever changed the 
destination on me. 

-jack

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POI Question

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Depending exactly what your search requirements are, yes/maybe.

Tap the search icon, then select Categories. Scroll all the way to the bottom 
and tap Custom Search.  Find the parent category you want and tap on that name 
(NOT the slider on the right). This will bring up the list of POIs in that 
category, and you can enable whichever ones you want. Not all POI types are 
present.

-jack

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to open GPX track via Osman

[Jack Burke]

You aren't prompted to select an app to use, correct? It's simply opening in 
Chrome? 

You need to clear Chrome-as-default, and depending on how you use your device 
you might need to change your device's default behavior (unortunately this 
affects every file type).

These instructions are for Android 7.

Go into Settings.  Scroll down to and select Applications. Scroll down to and 
select Chrome.  Scroll down and select Set Defaults. Tap Clear Defaults.

Now, the next time you try to open a gpx file, you'll be prompted to select an 
app to use, which will become the default. 

-jack

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Feature request: alert on traffic calming devices

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Traili, I'm not sure what you're asking for. OsmAnd already has this feature. 

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Re: Are destination_sign or destination supported?

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The tags destination and destination:ref are supported. I've never encountered 
destination_sign so I don't know about that one. 

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Backup to Google Drive or Other Cloud Service

[Jack Burke]

There is no cloud backup function in the app, nor is there a desktop version of 
the app. 

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Re: Can maps be stored to SD- card?

[Jack Burke]

+1 to nickjoh's response. This is the correct Android way. 

-jack

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Routing option for avoiding Low Emission Zones

[Jack Burke]

There is currently no setting for this. I'm pretty sure it would require a code 
change. You can request it by submitting an issue on the GitHub page. 

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Make tracks visible in a lower zoom level

[Jack Burke]

"I use Osmand in western africa. There I have the problem, that often main 
roads are tagged as 'tracks' and not as primary or secondary road (western 
people think they can tag african roads like western roads)."

This is precisely why I try to avoid editing info countries I'm not familiar 
with. 

John's suggestion sounds like the best one. Not only would it solve your 
problem, it would help everyone else. 

I would suggest that you start a discussion on the tagging OSM mailing list 
about updating road descriptions for the area you're in. Perhaps a set of wiki 
pages detailing the road network in west Africa, linked to from the main road 
pages, would help. You could include a link to those pages in your changeset 
comments when you exit roads. 

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Re: OsmAnd rendering speed (or lack of)

[Jack Burke]

With respect to routing and traffic, my experience has been that, absent a 
traffic incident, OsmAnd usually gives me the same route as Waze or Google. 
I've run them side by side for comparison on several occasions.  There will 
sometimes be some slight variations, but those seem mostly due to a difference 
in road classification.

I do hope that the OsmAnd devs will work in traffic at some point, like Maps.me 
has done, but when then it would be of limited use to me, since I usually run 
OsmAnd on my old SGS 4, which doesn't have cellular service any more.

Getting multicore support in OsmAnd would be a great improvement, not just for 
rendering, but also for route calculation. 

-jack 

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Re: new tablet

[Jack Burke]

Harry, +1 to what Bas said.  You have to use the same account. 

And your expectation is correct -- you should be able to install the paid 
version on your new device. I've done exactly that myself. 

-jack

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new tablet

[Jack Burke]

That sounds like you have the free version installed, not the paid one. Check 
the Help info for the version. 

Did you buy it through the Google Play store, Amazon store, or elsewhere? 

-jack

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osmand+ keeps forgetting about the SD card

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Martin, what device do you have, and which Android (and OsmAnd) version? 

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Clearing Flag/marker history

[Jack Burke]

To help with that, I highly recommend Bart Eisenberg's excellent YouTube video 
on map markers. 

https://youtu.be/GA6Y04uZlws

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official address data in Osmand

[Jack Burke]

This is really an OSM question, not an OsmAnd one. Better to ask on the OSM 
talk-be mailing list. 

-jack

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Re: Recommendation for Navigation Upgrade

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It is also available if you use the Legacy search feature. 

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Re: Significantly wrong route in rural Michigan

[Jack Burke]

I second what Aceman said about preemptively changing speed limits.  Wait 
until the change is about to happen.  If, for example, it's scheduled to 
take place on October 2, then I might start trying to get the changes done 
in the last few days of September; that's probably close enough that it 
isn't a problem.  But until then, leave them at their current legal values. 
 Maybe add a Note to the affected sections of highway stating that on MM/DD 
the DOT will change the speed limit on this section of US nn from AAmph to 
BBmph, if you want to advertise what's going to happen ahead of time.

--jack



On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 9:29:43 AM UTC-4, Aceman444 wrote:
>
> 1. For now, OsmAnd does NOT use data downloaded via OSM Live, only the 
> data in full monthly maps. However you can enable the OsmAnd development 
> plugin and then there is a configuration option to use OSM Live data for 
> routing too.
>
> 2. No, please only do it at the day the limits change (or close 
> beforehand).
>
>
> Dňa sobota, 5. augusta 2017 3:23:32 UTC+2 gabe appleton napísal(-a):
>>
>> Alright. I just fixed <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/50853050> 
>> the relevant portions. Two questions though:
>>
>>
>>1. Does OsmAnd use OsmLive data for navigation, so I can test this?
>>2. Should I preemptively change the speed limits to what they will be 
>>in a couple months? I assume no, but feel like I should ask.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:22:07 PM UTC-4, Jack Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> Just to follow up on the speed limits, M 35 appears to be tagged 55 mph 
>>> for almost all of it's length, wherease OsmAnd assumes a default speed 
>>> limit of 65 kph, or about 40 mph, for a primary road like US 41 if no speed 
>>> limit tags are present.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:17:52 PM UTC-4, Jack Burke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Your guess appears to be right.  While there are sections of US 41 that 
>>>> have speed limit data, it looks like there are large stretches where that 
>>>> is missing.  In contrast, M 35 appears to have speed limits set the entire 
>>>> (or most of) length.
>>>>
>>>> A very useful website for checking speed limits is ITOWorld's website. 
>>>>  They have it in a few different flavors, depending on how you want to 
>>>> look 
>>>> at it:
>>>>
>>>> http://product.itoworld.com/map/5
>>>> http://product.itoworld.com/map/124
>>>> http://product.itoworld.com/map/125
>>>>
>>>> You can follow both highways pretty easily on their site.  The downside 
>>>> is they only seem to update their data from OSM every few months.
>>>>
>>>> --jack
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, gabe appleton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed that when I make a route from Escanaba, MI 
>>>>> <http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=173581573> 
>>>>> to Marquette (city), MI 
>>>>> <http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=173397055>, 
>>>>> it tells me to stay on M-35 the entire way. In reality, it's nearly 20 
>>>>> minutes faster to change to US-41 in Gladstone, MI. It makes the same 
>>>>> mistake when plotted in reverse, telling me to go down 553 until it turns 
>>>>> onto M-35.
>>>>>
>>>>> My best guess is that it doesn't know speed limits in a few places 
>>>>> along the way, but I don't know enough to be confident in that. Can y'all 
>>>>> help me out here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>

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Re: Significantly wrong route in rural Michigan

[Jack Burke]

Your guess appears to be right.  While there are sections of US 41 that 
have speed limit data, it looks like there are large stretches where that 
is missing.  In contrast, M 35 appears to have speed limits set the entire 
(or most of) length.

A very useful website for checking speed limits is ITOWorld's website. 
 They have it in a few different flavors, depending on how you want to look 
at it:

http://product.itoworld.com/map/5
http://product.itoworld.com/map/124
http://product.itoworld.com/map/125

You can follow both highways pretty easily on their site.  The downside is 
they only seem to update their data from OSM every few months.

--jack



On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, gabe appleton wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that when I make a route from Escanaba, MI 
>  to 
> Marquette 
> (city), MI 
> , it 
> tells me to stay on M-35 the entire way. In reality, it's nearly 20 minutes 
> faster to change to US-41 in Gladstone, MI. It makes the same mistake when 
> plotted in reverse, telling me to go down 553 until it turns onto M-35.
>
> My best guess is that it doesn't know speed limits in a few places along 
> the way, but I don't know enough to be confident in that. Can y'all help me 
> out here?
>
> Thanks
>

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Re: Routing to Correct Side of Building

[Jack Burke]

If it's a building, I think it tries to route to the road closest to the 
centroid of the building.  If the destination is a node in a building, then 
to the road nearest the node.


On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 11:06:47 AM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
>
> Maybe i shouldnt have mentioned the parking as that adds an extra layer to 
> the simpler problem I'm trying to understand. In any case, whether one is 
> in a car, on foot, etc, they should be routed to the side of the building 
> with an entrance. Does OsmAnd attempt to route to entrance nodes? If so, 
> why in this case does it not work? If the app ignores entrance nodes, or if 
> an entrance node has not been placed, what other cues on the map does the 
> app use to choose to choose which side of a building to route to?

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Re: Suboptimum routing /w example

[Jack Burke]

I was wondering the same thing, Aceman.  There does appear to be a "spot" 
on the service road where it meets E 14 that *could* be the block.

I've moved it from the junction node to a node just on the service road. 
 That way, the service road essentially remains unchanged with respect to 
routing, but E 14 is now clear.

--jack


On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 2:05:05 PM UTC-4, Aceman444 wrote:
>
> Possibly the barrier should be on the small service road (way 116020378) 
> close to its connection to E14, not on the E14 trunk directly.
>
> Dňa nedeľa, 30. júla 2017 18:10:25 UTC+2 Jack Burke napísal(-a):
>>
>> I messaged the OSM user who put the barrier in place, asking if the block 
>> is still there or if the barrier can be removed from OSM.
>>
>

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Re: Suboptimum routing /w example

[Jack Burke]

I messaged the OSM user who put the barrier in place, asking if the block 
is still there or if the barrier can be removed from OSM.

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Re: Suboptimum routing /w example

[Jack Burke]

There is a barrier node on E 14 near the western end of your trace, where 
the small service road connects E 14 and Karolinervägen, that's why it 
diverted you.
http://osm.org/go/0cYMa4BxK--?m==312141287

OsmAnd did what it was supposed to do by routing you around the obstruction 
:-)

--jack


On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:22:59 AM UTC-4, Thomas Köller wrote:
>
> When using Osmand for car navigation, the routing decisions are sometimes 
> suboptimum, or just plain silly, as in the attached example. I came across 
> this during my vacation in Scandinavia. As can be seen, both start and end 
> point are on the same major road, the E14. The route computed by Osmand 
> using an offline map (map file for Sweden, dated June 1st, 2017), instead 
> of just following the E14 as would be appropriate, needlessly diverts from 
> that road onto a minor one leading through a village, later to rejoin the 
> E14.
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Re: How to save a route plan with intermediate destinations?

[Jack Burke]

Hal, I stand corrected.  It absolutely does have the ability to save a 
calculated route as a gpx file.

After it generates your route, press the nav arrow at the lower left (next 
to the menu button) to bring up the From/To/Distance/Time screen and 
vehicle selection.  Press on the Distance/Time line.  It will bring up the 
route details, and at the top are Print, Save, and Share buttons.

--jack


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>
> Thanks for that Jack..I'll make a request on Github even if the Osmand 
> updates are pretty infrequent these days.

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Mapillary plugin

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Not sure the app-not-on-screen-can't-take-pictures part is true. DailyRoads 
Voyager can take both still photos and video when it is in the background. 

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How to save a route plan with intermediate destinations?

[Jack Burke]

OsmAnd doesn't have that capability yet. You can submit a GitHub issue asking 
for it. (I might do just that, because I'd like it, too.)

Your best alternative is to use a website like YOURS or OpenRouteService to 
generate your route and export it to a gpx file that you copy to your phone. 
The downside of this is that OsmAnd will just "blindly" route you along the 
track without using a lot of its own features  (e.g., lane guidance, showing 
the speed limit, etc.). 

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Map Markers storage location?

[Jack Burke]

Does anyone happen to know how/where Map Markers are stored?  I'd like to 
be able to copy them between devices.

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Re: Improving: Markers import from Google MyMaps (.KMZ) to .GPX

[Jack Burke]

David, just to clarify to be sure I understand what you're asking.  You 
just want to import GPX *points* (not routes) into OsmAnd, and have them 
show up as colored markers?

--jack


On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 10:52:10 AM UTC-4, da...@middlemachine.com wrote:
>
> Would you be kind enough to actually answer my question which is
>
>
>
>
>  Is there a way, and what is it exactly, to currently import 
> typed/coloured markers into OsmAnd via .GPX*** (or some other format)*** or 
> could somebody give me some guidelines/tips where to code this in myself?*
> or *refrain from further off-topic commenting*. Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 4:44:32 PM UTC+2, john whelan wrote:
>>
>> You can create your own maps for OSMand.  There are a multitude of tools 
>> available to process OSM format files including ones to convert different 
>> formats into .OSM.  So just create what you'd like then use the OSMand map 
>> creator.  It's a fair chunk of work but its doable.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 3 July 2017 at 10:39, David Potocnik  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John, that's not very helpful.
>>>
>>> As far as I know:
>>> * "OpenStreetMap" by itself does not have a marker editor, or ability to 
>>> create personal markered maps.
>>> * even if I would go to the trouble and host something like uMap 
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UMap .. the question is still 
>>> the same:
>>>
>>> *** Would it give me an export endpoint with typed/coloured markers in 
>>> OsmAnd? ***
>>>
>>> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Otherwise I would 
>>> appreciate the example, and I think some others would too!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 July 2017 at 16:30, john whelan  wrote:
>>>
 You could start with OpenStreetMap rather than Google.  OSMAND 
 openstreetmap android.

 Cheerio John

 On 3 July 2017 at 10:22,  wrote:

> Hi, first I'd like to show you something, and then ask questions how 
> to make it better.
>
>
> -- Google MyMaps --> OsmAnd
>
> One of the best things about OsmAnd is that we're able to stay offline 
> and navigate. A part of that should also be saved markers. Correct me if 
> I'm wrong, but we don't have an online, collaborative way to do this with 
> OsmAnd.
>
> I did this simple solution needed for my project:
> http://totalism.org/maps
>
> It uses Google MyMaps, and offers .GPX endpoints.
> It does this via a .PHP script that converts the native .KMZ, a zipped 
> .KML, to .GPX, , wrapping gpsbabel.
> I'm able to open it in browser on my mobile device, and then "import" 
> it as OsmAnd markers.
>
> The whole thing is a few lines of PHP:
> 
> http://totalism.org/E2H/kmz2gpx.php?LINK=z2VTgpJjSQEo.kYW_4SV5qz-U=Bologna,%20Italy
> I didn't put it on github yet but will if there's interest.
>   - "LINK" parameter is the google "mid",
>   - "NAME" is a suffix to the .GPX file.
>
>
>
> -- How to improve this by having typed markers?
>
> The marker *types*, however, are lost in the process.
>
>   - Does anyone here know .GPX enough to say it supports something 
> like this (marker color / ico / type)?
>   - Could some of the developers give me some pointers where in the 
> source to look for this? (.GPX file handling) I might take on it myself 
> but 
> would appreciate somebody to help me find my way in the code. Feel free 
> to 
> reach out to me ... da...@middlemachine.com
>   - Are there other good ways to have offline maps + offline markers 
> (with OsmAnd)?
>
>
> Thanks
> David
>
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Re: Previous nightly builds?

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Ok, so I found http://download.osmand.net/night-builds/?C=M;O=D in an old 
response by Victor.  Are the "OsmAnd-master-nb-*.apk" files the old night 
builds?

--jack


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> Does anyone know the URL to download *previous* (not the latest) nightly 
> builds?  I installed the latest one, and it just keeps crashing when I try 
> to launch it, so I want to go back to one from a couple of days ago, until 
> a "good" new nightly is available.
>
> --jack
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Previous nightly builds?

[Jack Burke]

Does anyone know the URL to download *previous* (not the latest) nightly 
builds?  I installed the latest one, and it just keeps crashing when I try 
to launch it, so I want to go back to one from a couple of days ago, until 
a "good" new nightly is available.

--jack

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Re: no trails direction

[Jack Burke]

Does anyone know if the hidden hiker profile has any special properties that 
the standard pedestrian profile does not?

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Re: no trails direction

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Does anyone know if the hidden hiker profile has any special properties the the 
Surabaya standard pedestrian profile does not? 

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Offline maps download question about download dates

[Jack Burke]

It varies by country and map. They start building new map files at the 
beginning of each month, but it takes about a week to generate all of them. 
United States maps are usually not available until the 7th of the month. 

-Jack 

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Exit guidance appears broken in nightly build #21903M

[Jack Burke]

I opened a GitHub issue on it. 

https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/4011

If anyone else uses the nightly builds and can reproduce the problem, please 
add your examples so the devs can find the cause. 

-Jack 

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Re: Mapillary photos for your favorites!

[Jack Burke]

"I can certainly see the point that you have arrived at some combination 
of choosing not to worry and thinking mapillary is not logging and mining this 
data, for your own comfort."

Just to clarify,  I arrived at this conclusion based on my 20 years of 
experience working in IT, and my knowledge of what is and isn't possible for a 
website to learn about you. 

Yes, the Mapillary servers will get a user agent string and IP address, and 
they might or might not be able to geolocate that IP address to the general 
region where I am, but that's about it. They still don't know my name or email 
address or anything else about me, because OsmAnd doesn't record that 
information (f you think it does, please show me where, in the source code, 
they log that, because I'd really like to know), and even if it did, it doesn't 
necessarily disclose it in the user agent string (repeat previous 
parenthetical).

If all of those concerns you have are serious, then OsmAnd and Mapillary are 
the least of your problems. The Apple/Google industrial complex already knows 
far far more about you than either OsmAnd or Mapillary ever will, and will 
continue to learn more the longer you use a cell phone. 

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Mapillary photos for your favorites!

[Jack Burke]

Correction: it's not just your favorites. Mapillary photos are also shown for 
search results and a long-press point of interest on the map. 

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Mapillary photos for your favorites!

[Jack Burke]

Has anyone else noticed that recent night builds (not the latest release 
build) of OsmAnd includes photos of your favorites, if nearby sequences 
exist?


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Re: OsmAndMapCreator fails with SQL error message

[Jack Burke]

CP's suggestions are good, and start with those.

However, I will have to note that I started having problems with the 
nightly download of osmandmapcreator a couple of months ago, even using 
previously-successful parameters.  I ended up having to download a 
last-stable-build in order to create maps.  The one I am currently using 
is 
http://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/OsmAndMapCreator-main-24-04.zip. 
 I would suggest that you download that version and set it up, and see if 
you can build a map with it.  If it fails, then start working in CP's 
recommendations.  Once you get a working build, you can try the latest 
osmandmapcreator release.

--jack


On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:11:07 PM UTC-4, CP wrote:
>
> You have too many variables in the process to make a good assessment.
> I think you need to debug this in a structural way:
> Start with the tiniest possible use case (e.g. download an .osm file and 
> convert that into .obf) ans slowly increase your test set, until you hit 
> the problem.
>
> Any questions you have while doing this: please report them here.
>
> -CP
>
>
>
> Op 10-04-17 om 21:48 schreef thor...@gmail.com :
>
> Hi, and thanks for your answer, 
>
> The machine is a Linux box having 8GB of memory and the same amount of 
> swap. The hard drive is an almost-empty 250GB disk. The command run is:
>
>java -Djava.util.logging.config.file=logging.properties -Xms64M -
> Xmx6300M -cp "./OsmAndMapCreator.jar:lib/OsmAnd-core.jar:./lib/*.jar"   
> net.osmand.data.index.IndexBatchCreator SMFF-batch.xml
>
> The OsmAndMapCreator.zip file was downloaded a few weeks ago.
>
> 6.3GB of data looks ... reasonable for me.
>
> regards,
> Thorn
>
>
> Den lördag 8 april 2017 kl. 01:09:53 UTC+2 skrev Jack Burke: 
>>
>> Which version of OsmAndMapCreator are you using, and what memory 
>> parameters have you set?  Also, please monitor how much free space is on 
>> your computer's hard drive when you're running the software--you might be 
>> running out of disk space. 
>>
>> --jack
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 3:15:38 PM UTC-4, thor...@gmail.com wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I am trying to add data for some natural areas, like Narural Reserves, 
>>> Natura 2000 areas etc. to my OsmAnd phone. I followed this process:
>>> 1. I downloaded shapefiles for these areas from a Swedish government 
>>> agency.
>>> 2.  I converted them from .shp to .osm using ogr2osm. I did some 
>>> translations in this peocess.
>>> 3. I use OsmANdMapCreator to convert them form .osm to .obf.
>>>
>>> In step 3, I get one SEVERE error message, and no output file is 
>>> generated. I attache the error message below.
>>>
>>> *I would like som hints as to where the problem lies. A bug in the 
>>> OsmAndMapCreator? Error in the .osm file?*
>>>
>>> Most surprising is that the error message speaks about "poi", however 
>>> the infile is completely devoid of POI information.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>   Thorn
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Re: OsmAndMapCreator fails with SQL error message

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Which version of OsmAndMapCreator are you using, and what memory parameters 
have you set?  Also, please monitor how much free space is on your 
computer's hard drive when you're running the software--you might be 
running out of disk space.

--jack


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>
> Hi!
>
> I am trying to add data for some natural areas, like Narural Reserves, 
> Natura 2000 areas etc. to my OsmAnd phone. I followed this process:
> 1. I downloaded shapefiles for these areas from a Swedish government 
> agency.
> 2.  I converted them from .shp to .osm using ogr2osm. I did some 
> translations in this peocess.
> 3. I use OsmANdMapCreator to convert them form .osm to .obf.
>
> In step 3, I get one SEVERE error message, and no output file is 
> generated. I attache the error message below.
>
> *I would like som hints as to where the problem lies. A bug in the 
> OsmAndMapCreator? Error in the .osm file?*
>
> Most surprising is that the error message speaks about "poi", however the 
> infile is completely devoid of POI information.
>
>
> regards,
>   Thorn
>
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New here but have been using Osmand-Questions

[Jack Burke]

It sounds like you have free version installed right now.  There are 2 versions 
in the Play store: free and paid. If you paid for it, then you should be able 
to download the paid version. (It's a separate download, not an in-app upgrade.)

-Jack 

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Re: Avoid Road doesn't work for bicycle routing

[Jack Burke]

Out of curiosity, is there a sidewalk tag that indicates one is present? I 
wonder if OsmAnd considers one a valid path and is basing routing on that 
(i.e., if highway == something valid OR sidewalk == something valid then ride 
this way).

-Jack 

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Re: Roundabout and destination / sign tagging

[Jack Burke]

Yes, that looks like what I was talking about. I will also say this: the ways 
connecting to the roundabout should only be drawn separately if they are 
actually divided in reality, whether by a raised median or a painted one.

With respect to the destinations you aren't sure about, if there is a sign, I 
would just put what's on it.  If there isn't a sign, then it's a little more 
vague. The OSM administrators like to refer to the "ground truth," which seems 
to mean what you see (or need to know) if you are standing at the location. 
Sometimes this can mean adding tags even if there isn't a sign or mark that 
corresponds. I interpret that to mean "add the tag if its absence might lead to 
confusion or uncertainty."

I would encourage you to join some of the OSM mailing lists, and follow the 
conversations to help with situations you aren't sure about. 

-Jack 

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Re: Roundabout and destination / sign tagging

[Jack Burke]

I would offer this:

If the connections to the roundabout are separated by direction (that is, 
there are one-way road sections which separate from the road to/from the 
roundabout, and form the connection to it), then the one-way portion AWAY 
from the roundabout could have destination= and/or destination:ref= tags 
assigned.

Note that this should typically only be done if there is signage present, 
and should match what's on the signs, because that's what people will be 
looking at when they hear the spoken guidance.

If this description isn't clear, please let me know.

--jack


On Friday, January 6, 2017 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-5, Magicman8508 wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> can someone point me to an example how to tag roundabouts correctly to get 
> the destination city or town spoken by the TTS engine?
> I couldn't find an example in the osm wiki.
>
> thanks in advance.
>

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Re: update OsmAnd -> OsmAnd+ Karten müssen neu runtergeladen werden, gespeicherte Orte werden nicht übernommen!

[Jack Burke]

Mini me, your data should still be there, in the directory Eric mentioned. You 
should be able to find that data/* directory in a top- level folder called 
Android. 

-Jack   

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update OsmAnd -> OsmAnd+ Karten müssen neu runtergeladen werden, gespeicherte Orte werden nicht übernommen!

[Jack Burke]

I used Samsung translate, so I hope I understood this correctly. 

The free and paid versions store their data in different directories. If I 
remember correctly, when I upgraded, it did copy all of my data, but that was 
many versions ago. It is possible that a bug exists in more recent versions. 

You can copy your old data files (places, tracks, etc.) yourself, and the paid 
version will see the files and use them. 

Which version of Android are you using? The exact location of the old and new 
version directories depends on the version of Android you have. 

-Jack 

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Is there a way to sync my favourites, tracks, notes between phones?

[Jack Burke]

I transferred everything from my old phone to my new one over Bluetooth. 

You could also use Google Drive/ Dropbox/ etc. 

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Re: No November map updates on rawindexes web page

[Jack Burke]

Try refreshing your browser or clearing the cache. While I haven't looked at 
every country on the download page, it seems that every one has a November map. 

Also, I'm starting to see the December updates show up (Belarus, Greece, and 
others).

-Jack 

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Route simulation with a GPX-track

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Guy, are you using version 2.5.2? If so, there was a bug regarding selecting 
destinations and navigating. It appears to be fixed in 2.5.3.

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Re: 2.5.2 is crashing when I tap on map

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Version 2.5.3 showed up in the beta channel on the play store this morning. 
Seems to be fixed in that one. 

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Re: 2.5.2 is crashing when I tap on map

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It looks like they found the problem and are patching it. I assume they will 
release a new version fairly soon. 

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Re: 2.5.2 is crashing when I tap on map

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Jan, I don't have the contour lines plug-in. 

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2.5.2 is crashing when I tap on map

[Jack Burke]

It's also crashing when I try to select a search result and a saved favorite. 

Github report here: 

https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/3258

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2.5.2 is crashing when I tap on map

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I can confirm this problem. I'll look on Github to see if it has already been 
reported and if not open a new issue. 

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Re: Error:Calculated route is empty

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Are you by chance trying to use a GPS track file to help calculate your 
route?

The normal way to "clear" an on-screen Osmand-generated route is to press 
the blue navigation icon in the lower left (which is not present in your 
screenshot), then press the "X" to stop navigation.

In the interest of privacy, I won't ask what your real start and 
destination locations are, but can you try to have Osmand calculate a route 
between two places (e.g., pick a nearby store as the start, and somewhere 
else in town as the destination)?

--jack



On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 12:32:59 PM UTC-4, Alan Bragg wrote:
>
> Hi Jack,
> Thanks for thinking about my problem.
> The version I'm running on my Nexus 5x is
> OsmAnd+ 2.4.7,released:2016-09-19
> Installed maps are all up to date
> United States of America Massachusetts Sept 30,2016
> World overview map June 13,2016
>
> How do you clear route/routes? My screen is showing what appear to me to 
> be multiple routes to different destinations.
>
> Here's a link to a screen shot
> https://goo.gl/photos/UYDE4ApHgRJUsrog6
>
> Alan
>
> new phone #  781-275-1737 (our old home number is now on my smart phone)
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Jack Burke <burk...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> What version of osmand and what local map files are you using? Also, is 
>> the world basemap installed?
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Re: I/O error ooccurred, file not fully read

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Which maps are you trying to update, and which version of osmand are you using? 

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Error:Calculated route is empty

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What version of osmand and what local map files are you using? Also, is the 
world basemap installed? 

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Re: when is the next release of osmand going to be ?

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My observation is that the developers publish a new release about once a 
quarter (sometimes with a follow-up release with bug fixes).  The last 
release was a few weeks ago, so I wouldn't expect another one until 
December.

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On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 8:26:19 PM UTC-4, Shirish Agarwal wrote:
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> Hi all, 
>
> Newbie here. Can somebody tell/share when is the next release of 
> osmand going to be ? I saw translations happening on the github master 
> branch and that usually happens when the app. is close to release. Can 
> somebody give some more insight ? 
>
> I did see https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/compare/r2.4 which gives 
> some insight as to changes therein with the commit messages. 
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Re: OsmAnd incorrectly prefers freeway offramps rather than local streets as the final road

[Jack Burke]

Yes, the user's brain should be engaged, but if one is unfamiliar with the 
area, it isn't unreasonable to follow the router's directions. 

If the router instructs you to "turn right in 500 feet" and you're driving 
along a cliff that extends for a few miles, that's one thing. If you're driving 
on a freeway, and the router announces that "you have reached your destination" 
*and you're still on the freeway" then that's something else entirely. I 
suppose you can pull over and start panning the map around trying to figure out 
for yourself how to get to where you want to go (thus engaging your 
brain),because at that point the router clearly won't help. 

The "last mile" observations are appropriate here. OsmAnd does make such 
adjustments when using a GPS track, but apparently not with any other 
situation, and that is a bad oversight. 

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Re: THOR engine for OsmAnd

[Jack Burke]

Thanks!


On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 5:21:05 PM UTC-4, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
>
> I add the value to the first (but that's not really necessary) and I set 
> the car profile itself, like
>  minDefaultSpeed="45.0" maxDefaultSpeed="130.0" leftTurn="5" rightTurn="5" 
> roundaboutTurn="5" onewayAware="true" heuristicCoefficient="1.25">
>
> I don't touch the outcommented value
>
> Make sure that OsmAnd has really been closed otherwise the new value will 
> not be used. It will then use the already loaded in-memory value.
> Rebooting the phone is obviously the most simple way.
>
> 2016-10-04 23:06 GMT+02:00 Jack Burke <burk...@gmail.com >:
>
>> Not trying to hijack this thread, but Harry, where exactly in routing.xml 
>> do you change the heuristicCoefficient value?  I see 2 possible places:
>>
>> At the beginning, there's this section, with the value unset:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> Then just a little below that is this section, with a value of 1.5 
>> commented out:
>>
>> > minDefaultSpeed="45.0" maxDefaultSpeed="130.0" leftTurn="5" rightTurn="5" 
>> roundaboutTurn="5" onewayAware="true">  Are you supplying a value 
>> for the 1st, or uncommenting and using the 2nd? --jack
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 11:12:02 AM UTC-4, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>>>
>>> THOR might be a good alternative, but the A* algorithm OsmAnd uses is 
>>> just fine.
>>> I agree that OSRM is too limited due to its inflexibility.
>>>
>>> It is the implementation of the A* algorithm in OsmAnd that is wrong 
>>> (from my point of view). OsmAnd is literally the only app that uses a 
>>> heuristic coefficient of 1.0 thereby increasing both memory usage and 
>>> calculation time extremely. And it sometimes even calculates the wrong 
>>> route (due to over-optimization?).
>>>
>>> I use a heuristic coefficient of 1.25 or 1.3 which makes the calculation 
>>> 3-4x as fast!! and I can calculate routes up to 2000 km (less memory 
>>> usage) where I could calculate up to 800 km (1.5GB memory in my phone) . 
>>> And routes were never worse and in some cases even better: faster and 
>>> shorter!
>>> With that configured the route calculation is still not the fastest but 
>>> completely acceptable.
>>>
>>> There is only one disadvantage: deviating from the default 1.0 in OsmAnd 
>>> makes that blocked roads (by users themselves for whatever reason) are no 
>>> longer recognised. I assume that is an omission in OsmAnd. I can't consider 
>>> it a bug as Victor developed OsmAnd for that hc=1.0 (but I still I think it 
>>> is a bug :)  as other A* algorithms apps have no problem with that).
>>>
>>>
>>> Next to that: OsmAnd knows speed penalties for traffic lights, speed 
>>> bumps and the like. It seems that THOR supports that too (dynamic run-time 
>>> costing) but is not yet implemented, but maybe I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> The other reason for me for not using OsmAnd for car navigation is the 
>>> slow rendering of the screen.
>>>
>>> 2016-10-02 12:11 GMT+02:00 'Norbert' via Osmand <osm...@googlegroups.com
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> OsmAnd needs a new routing engine because of bad performance. 
>>>> Graphhopper and OSRM do not fulfill the requirements because they don't 
>>>> support conditional edge-weights at query-time*. THis is necessary to 
>>>> support options like avoid highways and so on without the need for a 
>>>> separate CH-graph for each combination of options.
>>>>
>>>> Competitor maps.me suffers from a similar problem**. The use fast OSRM 
>>>> engine but can't offer routing options (avoid highways etc.). 
>>>>
>>>> It should be investigated if THOR*** engine (Tiled Hierarchical Open 
>>>> Routing) which supports* multi-modal routing *can be implemented in 
>>>> OsmAnd to replace the current routing engine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/2377
>>>> ** https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/1888
>>>> *** https://github.com/valhalla/thor
>>>> *** https://mapzen.com/blog/valhalla-intro/
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Re: OsmAnd incorrectly prefers freeway offramps rather than local streets as the final road

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Sorry for the super jumbo size font. Doing this from my phone. 

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Re: THOR engine for OsmAnd

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Not trying to hijack this thread, but Harry, where exactly in routing.xml 
do you change the heuristicCoefficient value?  I see 2 possible places:

At the beginning, there's this section, with the value unset:





 
Then just a little below that is this section, with a value of 1.5 
commented out:

  Are you supplying a value 
for the 1st, or uncommenting and using the 2nd? --jack


On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 11:12:02 AM UTC-4, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
> THOR might be a good alternative, but the A* algorithm OsmAnd uses is just 
> fine.
> I agree that OSRM is too limited due to its inflexibility.
>
> It is the implementation of the A* algorithm in OsmAnd that is wrong (from 
> my point of view). OsmAnd is literally the only app that uses a heuristic 
> coefficient of 1.0 thereby increasing both memory usage and calculation 
> time extremely. And it sometimes even calculates the wrong route (due to 
> over-optimization?).
>
> I use a heuristic coefficient of 1.25 or 1.3 which makes the calculation 
> 3-4x as fast!! and I can calculate routes up to 2000 km (less memory 
> usage) where I could calculate up to 800 km (1.5GB memory in my phone) . 
> And routes were never worse and in some cases even better: faster and 
> shorter!
> With that configured the route calculation is still not the fastest but 
> completely acceptable.
>
> There is only one disadvantage: deviating from the default 1.0 in OsmAnd 
> makes that blocked roads (by users themselves for whatever reason) are no 
> longer recognised. I assume that is an omission in OsmAnd. I can't consider 
> it a bug as Victor developed OsmAnd for that hc=1.0 (but I still I think it 
> is a bug :)  as other A* algorithms apps have no problem with that).
>
>
> Next to that: OsmAnd knows speed penalties for traffic lights, speed bumps 
> and the like. It seems that THOR supports that too (dynamic run-time 
> costing) but is not yet implemented, but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> The other reason for me for not using OsmAnd for car navigation is the 
> slow rendering of the screen.
>
> 2016-10-02 12:11 GMT+02:00 'Norbert' via Osmand  >:
>
>> OsmAnd needs a new routing engine because of bad performance. Graphhopper 
>> and OSRM do not fulfill the requirements because they don't support 
>> conditional edge-weights at query-time*. THis is necessary to support 
>> options like avoid highways and so on without the need for a separate 
>> CH-graph for each combination of options.
>>
>> Competitor maps.me suffers from a similar problem**. The use fast OSRM 
>> engine but can't offer routing options (avoid highways etc.). 
>>
>> It should be investigated if THOR*** engine (Tiled Hierarchical Open 
>> Routing) which supports* multi-modal routing *can be implemented in 
>> OsmAnd to replace the current routing engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> * https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/2377
>> ** https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/1888
>> *** https://github.com/valhalla/thor
>> *** https://mapzen.com/blog/valhalla-intro/
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Re: Removing an old (redundant?) version of OsmAnd.

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This is just me, but I would look at some of the files in (a) and check the 
dates on them, and compare them to the dates on files with the same name in 
(b) to verify that the (b) files are being used/updated and the (a) ones 
aren't.  As long as you're sure about that, and there is nothing in (a) 
that you need, then it should be fine to delete them.  And I use a USB 
connection all the time to do that, so you do not need to worry about that 
part, either.

--jack


On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 12:06:30 PM UTC-4, P Wat wrote:
>
> 1)  My device has Osmand files in two locations:-
>
> (a) Internal storage\osmand\[whatever].
> (b) Internal storage\Android\data\net.osmand.plus\files\[whatever].
>
>
> It is understood:-
>
> (a) is the old version of OsmAnd 
> (b) is the new version.
>
>
> 2)  Is set (a) all redundant? 
>
> If so, is it safe to remove all of them? 
>
> What is the best/safest way to remove them?  For example, is it OK to use 
> USB connection in conjunction with PC’s file manager to delete all files 
> and folders of the old version?
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Dynamic average speed / arrival time

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You have to download the routing.xml file and set the value in it, then save it 
in you OsmAnd directory. 

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"In nine tenths of a mile"

[Jack Burke]

Does anyone know why OsmAnd gives direction announcements "in nine tenths of a 
mile" instead of "in one mile"? 

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Osmand Live maps not showing all recent changes?

[Jack Burke]

Give it a try again. The live update maps seemed to stop updating after July 
28, but started working again yesterday. 

-Jack 

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