Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-08-13 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 13:48, Denis Chapligin  wrote:
> пн, 15 июн. 2020 г. в 15:47, Mateusz Loskot :
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:27, Frédéric Rodrigo  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Ask was already made to reaming people with access, to name new
>> > commiters and allow the community to take the project.
>>
>> Some commits are being made and PRs are being merged.
>> So, I'd suggest to keep submitting PRs and keep on nudging
>> maintainers, whoever is available out there.
>>
>
> So I made a PR [0] to remove STXXL, let's see if it will be merged or not.
>
> [0] https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/pull/5760

Denis,

Am I correct you are a committer to the OSRM?
Can you see any way to get someone involved in the review
of the PR or perhaps grant you permission to merge it?

The situation is weird as OSRM receives new commits
but no one seems interested in representing the project.

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Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-17 Thread Denis Chapligin
Hello!

пн, 15 июн. 2020 г. в 15:47, Mateusz Loskot :

> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:27, Frédéric Rodrigo 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ask was already made to reaming people with access, to name new
> > commiters and allow the community to take the project.
>
> Some commits are being made and PRs are being merged.
> So, I'd suggest to keep submitting PRs and keep on nudging
> maintainers, whoever is available out there.
>
>
>
So I made a PR [0] to remove STXXL, let's see if it will be merged or not.

[0] https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/pull/5760
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-15 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 13:27, Frédéric Rodrigo  wrote:
>
> Le 15/06/2020 à 11:39, Mateusz Loskot a écrit :
> > On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 11:46, Denis Chapligin  wrote:
> >> I was building libraries for a windows build and discovered that STXXL is 
> >> abandonware atm
> > "OSRM is essentially abandonware at this point" too
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2020-March/001849.html
>
>
> It is not totally true. There is still a community, but without access
> to the github repository as commiter.
>
> Ask was already made to reaming people with access, to name new
> commiters and allow the community to take the project.

Some commits are being made and PRs are being merged.
So, I'd suggest to keep submitting PRs and keep on nudging
maintainers, whoever is available out there.

Best regards,
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-15 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo

Le 15/06/2020 à 11:39, Mateusz Loskot a écrit :

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 11:46, Denis Chapligin  wrote:

I was building libraries for a windows build and discovered that STXXL is 
abandonware atm

"OSRM is essentially abandonware at this point" too
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2020-March/001849.html

Best regards,



It is not totally true. There is still a community, but without access 
to the github repository as commiter.


Ask was already made to reaming people with access, to name new 
commiters and allow the community to take the project.



Frédéric Rodrigo.



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Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-15 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 12:51, Denis Chapligin  wrote:
> пн, 15 июн. 2020 г. в 12:40, Mateusz Loskot :
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 11:46, Denis Chapligin  wrote:
>> >
>> > I was building libraries for a windows build and discovered that STXXL is 
>> > abandonware atm
>>
>> "OSRM is essentially abandonware at this point" too
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2020-March/001849.html
>>
>>
>
> And I'm really concerned about that :(

Me too.

> Regarding STXXL presence - yep, i know it's optional, but it _may_ be an 
> issue for c++17 introduction ;)

If I was about to do it, I would do this:

1. Submit PR wiping out all traces of STXXL
2. Submit PR bumping required C++ version to C++17
with minimal code modernisation to enable compilation as C++17
3. Continue with series of manageable PRs modernising code to C++17

I honestly expect such PRs will be accepted as I see no practical
reasons to not to.
I should be able to offer my help in reviewing and testing the PRs,
as well as submitting some for the 3. part.

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Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-15 Thread Denis Chapligin
Hello!



пн, 15 июн. 2020 г. в 12:40, Mateusz Loskot :

> On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 11:46, Denis Chapligin  wrote:
> >
> > I was building libraries for a windows build and discovered that STXXL
> is abandonware atm
>
> "OSRM is essentially abandonware at this point" too
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2020-March/001849.html
>
>
>
And I'm really concerned about that :(

Regarding STXXL presence - yep, i know it's optional, but it _may_ be an
issue for c++17 introduction ;)
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-15 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 11:46, Denis Chapligin  wrote:
>
> I was building libraries for a windows build and discovered that STXXL is 
> abandonware atm

"OSRM is essentially abandonware at this point" too
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2020-March/001849.html

Best regards,
-- 
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-15 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 11:46, Denis Chapligin  wrote:
>
> i would like to ask, are there any actual users of STXXL left

Although it won't make for any useful statistics,
I have never built OSRM w/ STXXL enabled.

> and are the any objections of dropping STXXL support from the OSRM?

FYI, STXXL is optional, so you can already build OSRM
as if STXXL support was dropped.

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[OSRM-talk] Is STXXL still used in the wild?

2020-06-14 Thread Denis Chapligin
Hello!

I was building libraries for a windows build and discovered that STXXL is
abandonware atm and it is hard to compile it using modern c++ compilers, as
it relies on language features deprecated at c++11 (nine years ago!).

As modern computers usually have plenty of RAM and disk space for a normal
swap and, if needed, OSRM processing can be executed in a cloud for couple
of euros, i would like to ask, are there any actual users of STXXL left and
are the any objections of dropping STXXL support from the OSRM?
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