Re: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be

2015-07-02 Thread dan (ddp)
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Blaine cjbla...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 5:27:58 AM UTC-4, secuc...@free.fr wrote:

 i see it like a feature, and it works like a cluster of information.
 We discover it on in very bad case!


 It's a feature and a design flaw, IMO.

 The feature part is as you described.

 The design flaw is that Active Response doesn't allow one to generically
 act only on the host where the problem was found. In the case of, for
 example, one host's /var/www/html directory contents changes (syscheck sees
 a new file added), an action should be able to be configured (generically)
 to act only on that host. Perhaps send the file to an alert team.


We enjoy receiving patches for new features in the form of pull
requests to the github repo:
https://github.com/ossec/ossec-hids


 when an ip is triggering an alert, all the servers block this ip.

 It protects more the datacenter, but it could really go wrong

 and the second problem is if you put a lot of servers/ rules in AR you
 could have performance problem
 with a thousands of ip blocked each seconds.



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 De: Jeff Blaine cjbl...@gmail.com
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 Envoyé: Vendredi 26 Juin 2015 18:22:46
 Objet: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be

 When rule 550 or 554 is hit with ANY agent as the source, the command
 below is executing on agent 19.

 As I understand AR, the command should only be executing on agent 19 when
 rule 550 or 554 is hit *with agent 19 as the origin*

 Is this a bug or a misunderstanding on my part somewhere?

 Config piece:

  active-response
 commandtest-it/command
 locationdefined-agent/location
 agent_id019/agent_id
 rules_id550,554/rules_id
   /active-response

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Re: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be

2015-07-01 Thread secucatcher
good idea for a test

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Envoyé: Mardi 30 Juin 2015 21:57:43
Objet: RE: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be




Could you add a custom rule to achieve what you’re looking for? Something like: 



rule id=”10” level=”7” 

if_sid550,554/if_sid 

hostnamehostnameexample|hostnameexample2/hostname 

description550 or 554 event that occurred on hostnameexample or 
hostnameexampmle2/description 

/rule 



…Then trigger your active response off of 10 instead of 550 or 554? This is 
untested and I just manually typed out the rule, so beware typos if you are 
copy/pasting. 



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Behalf Of Jeff Blaine 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:14 PM 
To: ossec-list@googlegroups.com 
Cc: secucatc...@free.fr 
Subject: Re: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be 




On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 5:27:58 AM UTC-4, secuc...@free.fr wrote: 



i see it like a feature, and it works like a cluster of information. 
We discover it on in very bad case! 



It's a feature and a design flaw, IMO. 

The feature part is as you described. 

The design flaw is that Active Response doesn't allow one to generically act 
only on the host where the problem was found. In the case of, for example, one 
host's /var/www/html directory contents changes (syscheck sees a new file 
added), an action should be able to be configured (generically) to act only on 
that host . Perhaps send the file to an alert team. 




when an ip is triggering an alert, all the servers block this ip. 

It protects more the datacenter, but it could really go wrong 

and the second problem is if you put a lot of servers/ rules in AR you could 
have performance problem 
with a thousands of ip blocked each seconds. 



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De: Jeff Blaine  cjbl...@gmail.com  
À: ossec...@googlegroups.com 
Envoyé: Vendredi 26 Juin 2015 18:22:46 
Objet: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be 

When rule 550 or 554 is hit with ANY agent as the source, the command below is 
executing on agent 19. 

As I understand AR, the command should only be executing on agent 19 when rule 
550 or 554 is hit *with agent 19 as the origin* 

Is this a bug or a misunderstanding on my part somewhere? 

Config piece: 

active-response 
commandtest-it/command 
locationdefined-agent/location 
agent_id019/agent_id 
rules_id550,554/rules_id 
/active-response 

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RE: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be

2015-06-30 Thread LostInTheTubez
Could you add a custom rule to achieve what you’re looking for? Something like:

 

rule id=”10” level=”7”

if_sid550,554/if_sid

hostnamehostnameexample|hostnameexample2/hostname

description550 or 554 event that occurred on hostnameexample 
or hostnameexampmle2/description

/rule

 

…Then trigger your active response off of 10 instead of 550 or 554? This is 
untested and I just manually typed out the rule, so beware typos if you are 
copy/pasting. 

 

From: ossec-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:ossec-list@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jeff Blaine
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:14 PM
To: ossec-list@googlegroups.com
Cc: secucatc...@free.fr
Subject: Re: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be

 

On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 5:27:58 AM UTC-4, secuc...@free.fr 
mailto:secuc...@free.fr  wrote:

i see it like a feature, and it works like a cluster of information. 
We discover it on in very bad case! 


It's a feature and a design flaw, IMO.

The feature part is as you described.

The design flaw is that Active Response doesn't allow one to generically act 
only on the host where the problem was found. In the case of, for example, one 
host's /var/www/html directory contents changes (syscheck sees a new file 
added), an action should be able to be configured (generically) to act only on 
that host. Perhaps send the file to an alert team.
 

when an ip is triggering an alert, all the servers block this ip. 

It protects more the datacenter, but it could really go wrong 

and the second problem is if you put a lot of servers/ rules in AR you could 
have performance problem 
with a thousands of ip blocked each seconds. 



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De: Jeff Blaine cjbl...@gmail.com javascript:  
À: ossec...@googlegroups.com javascript:  
Envoyé: Vendredi 26 Juin 2015 18:22:46 
Objet: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be 

When rule 550 or 554 is hit with ANY agent as the source, the command below is 
executing on agent 19. 

As I understand AR, the command should only be executing on agent 19 when rule 
550 or 554 is hit *with agent 19 as the origin* 

Is this a bug or a misunderstanding on my part somewhere? 

Config piece: 

 active-response 
commandtest-it/command 
locationdefined-agent/location 
agent_id019/agent_id 
rules_id550,554/rules_id 
  /active-response 

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Re: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be

2015-06-30 Thread Jeff Blaine
On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 5:27:58 AM UTC-4, secuc...@free.fr wrote:

 i see it like a feature, and it works like a cluster of information. 
 We discover it on in very bad case! 


It's a feature and a design flaw, IMO.

The feature part is as you described.

The design flaw is that Active Response doesn't allow one to generically 
act only on the host where the problem was found. In the case of, for 
example, *one host's* /var/www/html directory contents changes (syscheck 
sees a new file added), an action should be able to be configured 
(generically) to act only *on that host*. Perhaps send the file to an alert 
team.
 

 when an ip is triggering an alert, all the servers block this ip. 

 It protects more the datacenter, but it could really go wrong 

 and the second problem is if you put a lot of servers/ rules in AR you 
 could have performance problem 
 with a thousands of ip blocked each seconds. 



 - Mail original - 
 De: Jeff Blaine cjbl...@gmail.com javascript: 
 À: ossec...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Envoyé: Vendredi 26 Juin 2015 18:22:46 
 Objet: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be 

 When rule 550 or 554 is hit with ANY agent as the source, the command 
 below is executing on agent 19. 

 As I understand AR, the command should only be executing on agent 19 when 
 rule 550 or 554 is hit *with agent 19 as the origin* 

 Is this a bug or a misunderstanding on my part somewhere? 

 Config piece: 

  active-response 
 commandtest-it/command 
 locationdefined-agent/location 
 agent_id019/agent_id 
 rules_id550,554/rules_id 
   /active-response 

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Re: [ossec-list] AR command executing when it should not be

2015-06-26 Thread dan (ddp)
On Jun 26, 2015 12:23 PM, Jeff Blaine cjbla...@gmail.com wrote:

 When rule 550 or 554 is hit with ANY agent as the source, the command
below is executing on agent 19.

 As I understand AR, the command should only be executing on agent 19 when
rule 550 or 554 is hit *with agent 19 as the origin*

 Is this a bug or a misunderstanding on my part somewhere?


Yes, I think it's a misunderstanding. Defining agent 19 below only
configures AR to run on that agent. It does not in any way specify that
alerts must come from that agent.

 Config piece:

  active-response
 commandtest-it/command
 locationdefined-agent/location
 agent_id019/agent_id
 rules_id550,554/rules_id
   /active-response

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