Re: [Owfs-developers] DS9490R 1-wire bus short circuit.

2014-04-14 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am 14.04.2014 14:44, schrieb vermus:
> vermus wrote
>> ps. Can you give a bus voltage from DS9490R ? In my case it ~ 1 Volt (3
>> and 4 pin), but AFAIK sensors on parasite power needs 3-5V...
> 
> i was right..
> 
> "Typically, 1-Wire slave devices operate over the voltage range of 2.8V
> (min) to 5.25V (max)."
> 
> Something wrong with my DS9490R.
> 
Then maybe you don't have a shorted diode in the DS9503, but a burned
series resistor in the same chip. That's a common mode of failure, too,
I had them a while ago.

This problem is usually created by connecting something to the Pin 2 GND
of the DS9490R. -> CHECK YOUR CABLING, Pin 1 and 2 of the DS9490
shouldn't be connected to anything on the bus.

Kind regards

Jan

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Re: [Owfs-developers] DS9490R 1-wire bus short circuit.

2014-04-14 Thread vermus
vermus wrote
> ps. Can you give a bus voltage from DS9490R ? In my case it ~ 1 Volt (3
> and 4 pin), but AFAIK sensors on parasite power needs 3-5V...

i was right..

"Typically, 1-Wire slave devices operate over the voltage range of 2.8V
(min) to 5.25V (max)."

Something wrong with my DS9490R.



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Re: [Owfs-developers] DS9490R 1-wire bus short circuit.

2014-04-14 Thread Paul Alfille
Off the top of my head:

Link-USB (ibuttonlink.com)

USB9097
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCsensor-1-Wire-adapter-thermometer-replace-DS9097-DS9490-NEW-/281307951738?pt=US_Weather_Meters&hash=item417f42b27a

The latter uses the serial protocol and so is slightly slower for large
directories. The LINK is probably pretty close, buty I haven't checked. It
hardly matters, 1-wire isn't that fast.




On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:32 AM, vermus  wrote:

> Paul Alfille-2 wrote
> > Page 5 of the datasheet (
> > http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS9490-DS9490R.pdf) has a
> > schematic including the DS9503 diode that might be a problem.
> >
> > On the other hand, it's probably not worth your time chasing this down,
> > rather than just buying another 9490R.
> >
> > This doesn't seem to be too common an occurrence -- I have DS9490Rs that
> > have been in service for nearly a decade. You could always try an
> > alternative USB 1-wire adapter, though they won't be quite as fast.
>
> Yes, as i said before, i tested this DS9503.
>
> Hmm, what alternative adapter? Can you give link on ebay or aliexpress?
>
> And what does that mean "won't be quite as fast"?  1-wire bus speed?
>
> Thanks!
>
> ps. Can you give a bus voltage from DS9490R ? In my case it ~ 1 Volt (3 and
> 4 pin), but AFAIK sensors on parasite power needs 3-5V...
>
>
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Re: [Owfs-developers] DS9490R 1-wire bus short circuit.

2014-04-14 Thread vermus
Paul Alfille-2 wrote
> Page 5 of the datasheet (
> http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS9490-DS9490R.pdf) has a
> schematic including the DS9503 diode that might be a problem.
> 
> On the other hand, it's probably not worth your time chasing this down,
> rather than just buying another 9490R.
> 
> This doesn't seem to be too common an occurrence -- I have DS9490Rs that
> have been in service for nearly a decade. You could always try an
> alternative USB 1-wire adapter, though they won't be quite as fast.

Yes, as i said before, i tested this DS9503.

Hmm, what alternative adapter? Can you give link on ebay or aliexpress?

And what does that mean "won't be quite as fast"?  1-wire bus speed?

Thanks!

ps. Can you give a bus voltage from DS9490R ? In my case it ~ 1 Volt (3 and
4 pin), but AFAIK sensors on parasite power needs 3-5V...



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Re: [Owfs-developers] DS9490R 1-wire bus short circuit.

2014-04-14 Thread Paul Alfille
Page 5 of the datasheet (
http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS9490-DS9490R.pdf) has a
schematic including the DS9503 diode that might be a problem.

On the other hand, it's probably not worth your time chasing this down,
rather than just buying another 9490R.

This doesn't seem to be too common an occurrence -- I have DS9490Rs that
have been in service for nearly a decade. You could always try an
alternative USB 1-wire adapter, though they won't be quite as fast.

Paul


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:40 AM, vermus  wrote:

> Paul Alfille-2 wrote
> > For reference I've included the initialization sequence for a functioning
> > DS9490R:
> >
> > DEBUG MODE
> > libow version:
> > 2.9p3
> >
> > .
> >
> > CONNECT: ow_usb_cycle.c:(68) Bus master found: 1:6
> > DEFAULT: ow_usb_msg.c:(295) Opened USB DS9490 bus master at 1:6.
> >CALL: ow_parsename.c:(99) path=[]
> >CALL: ow_parsename.c:(99) path=[/uncached/bus.0]
> >   DEBUG: ow_dir.c:(65) path=/uncached/bus.0
> >CALL: ow_dir.c:(100) path=/uncached/bus.0
> >CALL: ow_parsename.c:(99) path=[/uncached/bus.0/interface]
> >   DEBUG: ow_usb_cycle.c:(125) Callback on /uncached/bus.0/interface
> >   DEBUG: ow_parsename.c:(62) /uncached/bus.0/interface
> >   DEBUG: ow_search.c:(32) Start of directory path=/uncached/bus.0
> > device=00
> > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> >   DEBUG: ow_ds9490.c:(607) Index 0
> >   DEBUG: ow_select.c:(66) Selecting a path (and device)
> > path=/uncached/bus.0 SN=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 last path=00 00 00 00 00
> > 00
> > 00 00
> >   DEBUG: ow_select.c:(79) Continuing root branch
> >   DEBUG: ow_ds9490.c:(495) DS9490 RESET. changed 15, flex: 1
> >DATA: ow_ds9490.c:(942) set flexible speed
> >   DEBUG: ow_ds9490.c:(546) DS9490_Reset: OK
> >   DEBUG: ow_ds9490.c:(683) Got 8 bytes from USB search
> >   DEBUG: ow_ds9490.c:(711) gulp. Adding element 0:81 09 03 30 00 00 00 3A
> >   DEBUG: ow_ds9490.c:(625) SN found: 81 09 03 30 00 00 00 3A
> >   DEBUG: ow_search.c:(74) Device found: 81 09 03 30 00 00 00 3A
> >   DEBUG: ow_cache.c:(547) Adding device location 81 09 03 30 00 00 00 3A
> > bus=0
> >   DEBUG: ow_cache.c:(636) Add to cache sn 81 09 03 30 00 00 00 3A
> > pointer=0x7fbec55f928c index=0 size=4
> >   DEBUG: ow_cache.c:(547) Adding device location 81 09 03 30 00 00 00 3A
> > bus=0
> >   DEBUG: ow_cache.c:(636) Add to cache sn 81 09 03 30 00 00 00 3A
> > pointer=0x7fbec55f928c index=0 size=4
> >CALL: ow_parsename.c:(99) path=[/uncached/bus.0/81.09033000]
> >   DEBUG: ow_usb_cycle.c:(125) Callback on /uncached/bus.0/81.09033000
> >   DEBUG: ow_parsename.c:(62) /uncached/bus.0/81.09033000
> >   DEBUG: ow_ds9490.c:(607) Index 1
> >   DEBUG: ow_cache.c:(479) Adding directory for 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > elements=1
> >   DEBUG: ow_cache.c:(636) Add to cache sn 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > pointer=0x7fbec55f9298 index=0 size=8
> >   DEBUG: ow_dir.c:(195) ret=0
> >   DEBUG: ow_usb_cycle.c:(155) Finished FS_dir
> >   DEBUG: ow_parsename.c:(62) /uncached/bus.0
> > DEFAULT: ow_usb_cycle.c:(191) Set DS9490 1:6 unique id to 81 09 03 30 00
> > 00
> > 00 3A
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > The "short" sequence comes from the DS9490R itself -- it tests the line
> > and
> > reports if the 1-wire line is shorted out. The fact that it is reporting
> > says that the USB to DS2490 (the actual USB chip) connection is working.
> >
> > I presume you don't have anything connected to the bus master at this
> > stage
> > of testing? I.e. the socket is empty?
>
> Thanks again.  Yes, usb is OK:
>
> root@hostname:/usr/src# lsusb
>  Bus 005 Device 003: ID 04fa:2490 Dallas Semiconductor DS1490F 2-in-1 Fob,
> 1-Wire adapter
>
> Yes, the rj11(12) socket is absolutely empty.
>
> I guess, i need to buy another one device. :(
>
>
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