Re: [Owfs-developers] DS2482-800 long wire problem

2015-01-02 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am 02.01.2015 um 16:08 schrieb Jan Sennesael:
> Everything was running fine, but when i tried to add a couple of sensors i
> run into some troubles: Since these sensors are on the other side of the
> house, is added a long utp cat5e cable (long= 25m a 30m)
>
Don't use a pair for 1W and GND, as the tight coupling adds a lot of
capacity to the bus, and capacity is limiting the cable length in onewire.

If you cannot avoid this particular cable, use one pair for 1W and
another one for GND.

No ethernet allowed in the same mantle!


> 
> Since the cabling is ok i am guessing the total cable length is to long.
>
No. Maybe for this type of cable, but definately not for some simple
telephone wires.

Kind regards

Jan



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Re: [Owfs-developers] DS2482-800 long wire problem

2015-01-02 Thread Paul Alfille
Have you tried another channel on the DS2482-800 for the long run? The 8
channels are electrically separate.

I assume you've looked at some of the resources for 1-wire bus topology,
like http://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/148

Paul

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jan Sennesael 
wrote:

> I have a plugin board running on top of my pi containing a DS2482-800 and
> an
> 2482-100 master. Both are connected through I2C.
> The DS18b20's that are connected are connected in bus layout and are
> powered
> (not parasite)
> Everything was running fine, but when i tried to add a couple of sensors i
> run into some troubles: Since these sensors are on the other side of the
> house, is added a long utp cat5e cable (long= 25m a 30m) to the first
> sensor. However, if i connect the sensor the whole channel of the
> DS2482-800
> stops working. If i disconnect it, the rest works again.
> I guess that there is already around 30m active. (so the total distance
> between the master and the new sensor is around 60m
>
> Since the cabling is ok i am guessing the total cable length is to long.
> Is there anything to solve this problem? (pull up resistor or cap?)  Would
> the 2482-100 be better at this? I didn't use it since this one draws power
> from the pi and the -800 is externally powered (board layout issue...)
>
> Thanks
> Jan
>
>
>
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[Owfs-developers] DS2482-800 long wire problem

2015-01-02 Thread Jan Sennesael
I have a plugin board running on top of my pi containing a DS2482-800 and an
2482-100 master. Both are connected through I2C.
The DS18b20's that are connected are connected in bus layout and are powered
(not parasite)
Everything was running fine, but when i tried to add a couple of sensors i
run into some troubles: Since these sensors are on the other side of the
house, is added a long utp cat5e cable (long= 25m a 30m) to the first
sensor. However, if i connect the sensor the whole channel of the DS2482-800
stops working. If i disconnect it, the rest works again.
I guess that there is already around 30m active. (so the total distance
between the master and the new sensor is around 60m

Since the cabling is ok i am guessing the total cable length is to long.
Is there anything to solve this problem? (pull up resistor or cap?)  Would
the 2482-100 be better at this? I didn't use it since this one draws power
from the pi and the -800 is externally powered (board layout issue...)

Thanks
Jan


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