Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

[Alex Jitianu]

Hi,


I'm glad to hear that!


With respect to the solution based on the actions, I wasn't able to 
get the processing instruction to go in as a fragment. I was able to 
get non-placeholder text to enter just fine. Perhaps it's a css issue 
because the link target is shown as placeholder text by default?



I'm sorry, I should have tested it fist It appears that the pi must 
be in an XML element, for example it will work if your 
InsertFragmentOperation inserts a fragment like this:



   


These PIs are actually saved in their parent element as pseudo classes 
and we are not handling the case when an orphan  is 
inserted through an author action.



Best regards,
Alex
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  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
http://www.oxygenxml.com

On 2/16/2023 6:30 PM, Cody Steele wrote:
Thank you, Alex and Radu. I was able to get a version of both of these 
solutions working in short-order and will demo to my team.


With respect to the solution based on the actions, I wasn't able to 
get the processing instruction to go in as a fragment. I was able to 
get non-placeholder text to enter just fine. Perhaps it's a css issue 
because the link target is shown as placeholder text by default?


It was really helpful to see both of these. I can envision several 
other cases where I can use both approaches to perform other tasks 
that I've been working on.


*From:* oXygen-user  on behalf of 
Alex Jitianu 

*Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2023 2:54 AM
*To:* oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com 
*Subject:* Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

Hi,


Another option would be to cascade [1] the existing action with a a 
new one that inserts a comment or a placeholder that is removed once 
the user types text [2]:






To summarize it you will have to:

- create one action that inserts this comment

- create one action based on /ExecuteMultipleActionsOperation [2] 
/that cascades the xref and the previous action


- you replace the xref action from the toolbar with this new action 
based on /ExecuteMultipleActionsOperation/



[1] 
https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-default-author-operations.html#dg-default-author-operations__executemultipleactionsoperation 
<https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-default-author-operations.html#dg-default-author-operations__executemultipleactionsoperation>


[2] 
https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-placeholder-css-extension.html 
<https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-placeholder-css-extension.html>


Best regards,
Alex
--
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  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
http://www.oxygenxml.com  <http://www.oxygenxml.com>
On 2/16/2023 8:00 AM, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:


Hello Cody,


Indeed the "InsertXrefOperation" Java operation does not have a 
parameter to specify some fixed text to insert inside the link, I 
added an internal issue based on your feedback. I do not have an easy 
workaround for you, it's possible that what you want would be 
possible with a Java based extension which would somehow listen for 
inserted links and add that text inside the inserted link.



But coming back to your use case which seems to be to always add 
custom text inside a link to a web page, I would rather suggest using 
a custom Schematron schema to signal as a validation error to the end 
user that the link is empty:



https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/sharing_schematron_validation_rules.html 
<https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/sharing_schematron_validation_rules.html>



So a Schematron schema like this would report a user friendly warning 
if there is an empty link:


http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron; 
<http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron> queryBinding="xslt2"
    xmlns:sqf="http://www.schematron-quickfix.com/validator/process; 
<http://www.schematron-quickfix.com/validator/process>>

    
    
    An external link should have 
custom link text set inside.

    
    



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 2/15/23 18:17, Cody Steele wrote:

I was following along with Frank's questions.

My interest was in editing the author action insert.url.reference 
for a web link by adding something like  
inside of the XREF element. It doesn't look like any of the 
arguments for ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.link.InsertXrefOperation 
lets you insert a fragment. Is it correct that I should proceed to 
the involving the DITA extension framework or is there another 
method that makes more sense to you?


Thanks,

Cody

*From:* oXygen-user  
<mailto:oxygen-user-boun...@oxygenxml.com> on behalf of Oxygen XML 
Editor Support (Radu Coravu)  
<mailto:supp...@oxygenxml.com>

*Sent:* Wednes

Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

[Cody Steele]

Thank you, Alex and Radu. I was able to get a version of both of these 
solutions working in short-order and will demo to my team.

With respect to the solution based on the actions, I wasn't able to get the 
processing instruction to go in as a fragment. I was able to get 
non-placeholder text to enter just fine. Perhaps it's a css issue because the 
link target is shown as placeholder text by default?

It was really helpful to see both of these. I can envision several other cases 
where I can use both approaches to perform other tasks that I've been working 
on.

From: oXygen-user  on behalf of Alex Jitianu 

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 2:54 AM
To: oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com 
Subject: Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically


Hi,


Another option would be to cascade [1] the existing action with a a new one 
that inserts a comment or a placeholder that is removed once the user types 
text [2]:





To summarize it you will have to:

- create one action that inserts this comment

- create one action based on ExecuteMultipleActionsOperation [2] that cascades 
the xref and the previous action

- you replace the xref action from the toolbar with this new action based on 
ExecuteMultipleActionsOperation


[1] 
https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-default-author-operations.html#dg-default-author-operations__executemultipleactionsoperation<https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-default-author-operations.html#dg-default-author-operations__executemultipleactionsoperation>

[2] 
https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-placeholder-css-extension.html<https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-placeholder-css-extension.html>

Best regards,
Alex
--
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  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
http://www.oxygenxml.com<http://www.oxygenxml.com>

On 2/16/2023 8:00 AM, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:

Hello Cody,


Indeed the "InsertXrefOperation" Java operation does not have a parameter to 
specify some fixed text to insert inside the link, I added an internal issue 
based on your feedback. I do not have an easy workaround for you, it's possible 
that what you want would be possible with a Java based extension which would 
somehow listen for inserted links and add that text inside the inserted link.


But coming back to your use case which seems to be to always add custom text 
inside a link to a web page, I would rather suggest using a custom Schematron 
schema to signal as a validation error to the end user that the link is empty:


https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/sharing_schematron_validation_rules.html<https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/sharing_schematron_validation_rules.html>


So a Schematron schema like this would report a user friendly warning if there 
is an empty link:

http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron;<http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron>
 queryBinding="xslt2"

xmlns:sqf="http://www.schematron-quickfix.com/validator/process;<http://www.schematron-quickfix.com/validator/process>>


An external link should have custom link 
text set inside.





Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor

On 2/15/23 18:17, Cody Steele wrote:
I was following along with Frank's questions.

My interest was in editing the author action insert.url.reference for a web 
link by adding something like  inside of the XREF 
element. It doesn't look like any of the arguments for 
ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.link.InsertXrefOperation lets you insert a 
fragment. Is it correct that I should proceed to the involving the DITA 
extension framework or is there another method that makes more sense to you?

Thanks,

Cody

From: oXygen-user 
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on behalf of Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) 
<mailto:supp...@oxygenxml.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:06 AM
To: oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com<mailto:oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com> 
<mailto:oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com>
Subject: Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically


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Hi Frank,


Let's split your use cases in two:

1) Inserting elements using Oxygen's actions (toolbars, menus)

2) Inserting elements using the content completion window.


1)


Let's take table insertion for example:


If you edit your DITA framework extension that is defined in the 
Preferences->"Document Type Association" page, it has an "Author=>Actions" tab.

If you edit the action "insert.table", it calls an operation named 
"ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.topic.table.InsertTableOperation" 

Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

[Alex Jitianu]

Hi,


Another option would be to cascade [1] the existing action with a a new 
one that inserts a comment or a placeholder that is removed once the 
user types text [2]:






To summarize it you will have to:

- create one action that inserts this comment

- create one action based on /ExecuteMultipleActionsOperation [2] /that 
cascades the xref and the previous action


- you replace the xref action from the toolbar with this new action 
based on /ExecuteMultipleActionsOperation/



[1] 
https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-default-author-operations.html#dg-default-author-operations__executemultipleactionsoperation


[2] 
https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dg-placeholder-css-extension.html


Best regards,
Alex
--
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  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
http://www.oxygenxml.com

On 2/16/2023 8:00 AM, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:


Hello Cody,


Indeed the "InsertXrefOperation" Java operation does not have a 
parameter to specify some fixed text to insert inside the link, I 
added an internal issue based on your feedback. I do not have an easy 
workaround for you, it's possible that what you want would be possible 
with a Java based extension which would somehow listen for inserted 
links and add that text inside the inserted link.



But coming back to your use case which seems to be to always add 
custom text inside a link to a web page, I would rather suggest using 
a custom Schematron schema to signal as a validation error to the end 
user that the link is empty:



https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/sharing_schematron_validation_rules.html


So a Schematron schema like this would report a user friendly warning 
if there is an empty link:


http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron; 
queryBinding="xslt2"

    xmlns:sqf="http://www.schematron-quickfix.com/validator/process;>
    
    
    An external link should have 
custom link text set inside.

    
    



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 2/15/23 18:17, Cody Steele wrote:

I was following along with Frank's questions.

My interest was in editing the author action insert.url.reference for 
a web link by adding something like  
inside of the XREF element. It doesn't look like any of the arguments 
for ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.link.InsertXrefOperation lets you 
insert a fragment. Is it correct that I should proceed to the 
involving the DITA extension framework or is there another method 
that makes more sense to you?


Thanks,

Cody

*From:* oXygen-user  on behalf of 
Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) 

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:06 AM
*To:* oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com 
*Subject:* Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

***Warning* This email originates from outside of Minitab. Do not 
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Hi Frank,


Let's split your use cases in two:

1) Inserting elements using Oxygen's actions (toolbars, menus)

2) Inserting elements using the content completion window.


1)


Let's take table insertion for example:


If you edit your DITA framework extension that is defined in the 
Preferences->"Document Type Association" page, it has an 
"Author=>Actions" tab.


If you edit the action "insert.table", it calls an operation named 
"ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.topic.table.InsertTableOperation" with 
certain parameters. One of the parameters is named "cellFragment", 
you can set its value to "".


There are other ways to change a table, for example insert a new 
column, insert a new row. So actions like "insert.table.row.below" or 
"insert.table.column.after" which also need to be changed accordingly.



2) Inserting elements like  using the content completion window.

Your DITA extension framework customization can contain a 
"cc_config.xml" file which defines that for certain elements, if they 
are inserted, another element should be inserted inside them as well:


https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/configure-elements-attr-cc-individually.html#configure-elements-attr-cc-individually__examples_configuring_elements 
<https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/configure-elements-attr-cc-individually.html#configure-elements-attr-cc-individually__examples_configuring_elements>



Hope this helps.


Regards,

Radu


Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 1/24/23 11:49, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi list,


Whenever this is valid, I wrap text in a  element. I would like 
oXygen to automatically insert  as a child element when inserting 
,  (for the table cells of course), , 
, ... and many more. How do I do this?



Regards,

Frank

--

*Frank Dissinger*

Documentation Manag

Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

[Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu)]

Hello Cody,


Indeed the "InsertXrefOperation" Java operation does not have a 
parameter to specify some fixed text to insert inside the link, I added 
an internal issue based on your feedback. I do not have an easy 
workaround for you, it's possible that what you want would be possible 
with a Java based extension which would somehow listen for inserted 
links and add that text inside the inserted link.



But coming back to your use case which seems to be to always add custom 
text inside a link to a web page, I would rather suggest using a custom 
Schematron schema to signal as a validation error to the end user that 
the link is empty:



https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/sharing_schematron_validation_rules.html


So a Schematron schema like this would report a user friendly warning if 
there is an empty link:


http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron; 
queryBinding="xslt2"

xmlns:sqf="http://www.schematron-quickfix.com/validator/process;>
    
    
    An external link should have 
custom link text set inside.

    
    



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor

On 2/15/23 18:17, Cody Steele wrote:

I was following along with Frank's questions.

My interest was in editing the author action insert.url.reference for 
a web link by adding something like  
inside of the XREF element. It doesn't look like any of the arguments 
for ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.link.InsertXrefOperation lets you 
insert a fragment. Is it correct that I should proceed to the 
involving the DITA extension framework or is there another method that 
makes more sense to you?


Thanks,

Cody

*From:* oXygen-user  on behalf of 
Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) 

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:06 AM
*To:* oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com 
*Subject:* Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

***Warning* This email originates from outside of Minitab. Do not open 
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Hi Frank,


Let's split your use cases in two:

1) Inserting elements using Oxygen's actions (toolbars, menus)

2) Inserting elements using the content completion window.


1)


Let's take table insertion for example:


If you edit your DITA framework extension that is defined in the 
Preferences->"Document Type Association" page, it has an 
"Author=>Actions" tab.


If you edit the action "insert.table", it calls an operation named 
"ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.topic.table.InsertTableOperation" with 
certain parameters. One of the parameters is named "cellFragment", you 
can set its value to "".


There are other ways to change a table, for example insert a new 
column, insert a new row. So actions like "insert.table.row.below" or 
"insert.table.column.after" which also need to be changed accordingly.



2) Inserting elements like  using the content completion window.

Your DITA extension framework customization can contain a 
"cc_config.xml" file which defines that for certain elements, if they 
are inserted, another element should be inserted inside them as well:


https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/configure-elements-attr-cc-individually.html#configure-elements-attr-cc-individually__examples_configuring_elements 
<https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/configure-elements-attr-cc-individually.html#configure-elements-attr-cc-individually__examples_configuring_elements>



Hope this helps.


Regards,

Radu


Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 1/24/23 11:49, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi list,


Whenever this is valid, I wrap text in a  element. I would like 
oXygen to automatically insert  as a child element when inserting 
,  (for the table cells of course), , 
, ... and many more. How do I do this?



Regards,

Frank

--

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Documentation Manager



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Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

[Cody Steele]

I was following along with Frank's questions.

My interest was in editing the author action insert.url.reference for a web 
link by adding something like  inside of the XREF 
element. It doesn't look like any of the arguments for 
ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.link.InsertXrefOperation lets you insert a 
fragment. Is it correct that I should proceed to the involving the DITA 
extension framework or is there another method that makes more sense to you?

Thanks,

Cody

From: oXygen-user  on behalf of Oxygen XML 
Editor Support (Radu Coravu) 
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:06 AM
To: oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com 
Subject: Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically


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Hi Frank,


Let's split your use cases in two:

1) Inserting elements using Oxygen's actions (toolbars, menus)

2) Inserting elements using the content completion window.


1)


Let's take table insertion for example:


If you edit your DITA framework extension that is defined in the 
Preferences->"Document Type Association" page, it has an "Author=>Actions" tab.

If you edit the action "insert.table", it calls an operation named 
"ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.topic.table.InsertTableOperation" with certain 
parameters. One of the parameters is named "cellFragment", you can set its 
value to "".

There are other ways to change a table, for example insert a new column, insert 
a new row. So actions like "insert.table.row.below" or 
"insert.table.column.after" which also need to be changed accordingly.


2) Inserting elements like  using the content completion window.

Your DITA extension framework customization can contain a "cc_config.xml" file 
which defines that for certain elements, if they are inserted, another element 
should be inserted inside them as well:

https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/configure-elements-attr-cc-individually.html#configure-elements-attr-cc-individually__examples_configuring_elements<https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/configure-elements-attr-cc-individually.html#configure-elements-attr-cc-individually__examples_configuring_elements>


Hope this helps.


Regards,

Radu


Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor

On 1/24/23 11:49, Frank Dissinger wrote:

Hi list,


Whenever this is valid, I wrap text in a  element. I would like oXygen to 
automatically insert  as a child element when inserting , 
 (for the table cells of course), , , 
... and many more. How do I do this?


Regards,

Frank

--

Frank Dissinger

Documentation Manager



CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH

Email frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com<mailto:frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com> | Web 
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Re: [oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically

[Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu)]

Hi Frank,


Let's split your use cases in two:

1) Inserting elements using Oxygen's actions (toolbars, menus)

2) Inserting elements using the content completion window.


1)


Let's take table insertion for example:


If you edit your DITA framework extension that is defined in the 
Preferences->"Document Type Association" page, it has an 
"Author=>Actions" tab.


If you edit the action "insert.table", it calls an operation named 
"ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.topic.table.InsertTableOperation" with 
certain parameters. One of the parameters is named "cellFragment", you 
can set its value to "".


There are other ways to change a table, for example insert a new column, 
insert a new row. So actions like "insert.table.row.below" or 
"insert.table.column.after" which also need to be changed accordingly.



2) Inserting elements like  using the content completion window.

Your DITA extension framework customization can contain a 
"cc_config.xml" file which defines that for certain elements, if they 
are inserted, another element should be inserted inside them as well:


https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/configure-elements-attr-cc-individually.html#configure-elements-attr-cc-individually__examples_configuring_elements


Hope this helps.


Regards,

Radu


Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor

On 1/24/23 11:49, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi list,


Whenever this is valid, I wrap text in a  element. I would like 
oXygen to automatically insert  as a child element when inserting 
,  (for the table cells of course), , 
, ... and many more. How do I do this?



Regards,

Frank

--

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Documentation Manager



*CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH*

*Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com 



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[Frank Dissinger]

Hi list,


Whenever this is valid, I wrap text in a  element. I would like 
oXygen to automatically insert  as a child element when inserting 
,  (for the table cells of course), , 
, ... and many more. How do I do this?



Regards,

Frank

--

*Frank Dissinger*

Documentation Manager



*CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH*

*Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com 



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