Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

[Winston Pang]

I think perfect is subjective. It may be perfect for one, but may not be
perfect to others.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, DotNet Dude  wrote:

> Since when is gmail perfect?
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Winston Pang 
> wrote:
> > It's related. Some perfectionists love improving upon their work till
> it's
> > perfect and completely solid. Take google for example, gmail did sit in
> beta
> > for ages, since they wanted to perfect it.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:30 AM, silky  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Winston Pang 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Being the perfectionist that Paul is, if he does decide to write a
> book,
> >> > I
> >> > bet he'll be dropping in "Beta" underneath the title :-P
> >>
> >> ... that's the opposite of perfectionism.
> >>
> >> --
> >> silky
> >>
> >>  http://www.programmingbranch.com/
> >
> >
>

Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

[DotNet Dude]

Since when is gmail perfect?

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Winston Pang  wrote:
> It's related. Some perfectionists love improving upon their work till it's
> perfect and completely solid. Take google for example, gmail did sit in beta
> for ages, since they wanted to perfect it.
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:30 AM, silky  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Winston Pang 
>> wrote:
>> > Being the perfectionist that Paul is, if he does decide to write a book,
>> > I
>> > bet he'll be dropping in "Beta" underneath the title :-P
>>
>> ... that's the opposite of perfectionism.
>>
>> --
>> silky
>>
>>  http://www.programmingbranch.com/
>
>

Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

[Winston Pang]

It's related. Some perfectionists love improving upon their work till it's
perfect and completely solid. Take google for example, gmail did sit in beta
for ages, since they wanted to perfect it.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:30 AM, silky  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Winston Pang 
> wrote:
> > Being the perfectionist that Paul is, if he does decide to write a book,
> I
> > bet he'll be dropping in "Beta" underneath the title :-P
>
> ... that's the opposite of perfectionism.
>
> --
> silky
>
>  http://www.programmingbranch.com/
>

Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

[silky]

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jonathan Parker
 wrote:
> You are wrong.

How so?

How is it an attitude of "perfection" to release something that you
don't consider perfect?

-- 
silky

  http://www.programmingbranch.com/

Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

[Jonathan Parker]

You are wrong.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:30 AM, silky  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Winston Pang 
> wrote:
> > Being the perfectionist that Paul is, if he does decide to write a book,
> I
> > bet he'll be dropping in "Beta" underneath the title :-P
>
> ... that's the opposite of perfectionism.
>
> --
> silky
>
>  http://www.programmingbranch.com/
>

Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

[silky]

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Winston Pang  wrote:
> Being the perfectionist that Paul is, if he does decide to write a book, I
> bet he'll be dropping in "Beta" underneath the title :-P

... that's the opposite of perfectionism.

-- 
silky

  http://www.programmingbranch.com/

Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

[Winston Pang]

Being the perfectionist that Paul is, if he does decide to write a book, I
bet he'll be dropping in "Beta" underneath the title :-P


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Nic Roche  wrote:

> > Surely Paul Stovell will be writing a book soon?
>
> He is well informed in this space, and would do a great job if he decided
> to.
>
> I have been to large paid presentations on "Using Prism in WPF" conducted
> by
> Paul, and he does know his stuff...
>
> Nic
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of silky
> Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 3:43 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: WPF Book Recommendations?
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Parker
>  wrote:
> > I haven't done any WPF development but I've read WPF Unleashed and liked
> it.
>
> Surely Paul Stovell will be writing a book soon?
>
> I've never read any books on WPF, and I've done a bit of it, but then
> again,
> I don't read programming books (that explains it ...), so that doesn't
> count
> for much.
>
> --
> silky
>
>  http://www.programmingbranch.com/
>
>

RE: WPF Book Recommendations?

[Vinay Tripathi]

I have asked a similar question in OzSilverlight community and here are some of 
the responses I got -

http://joshsmithonwpf.wordpress.com/advanced-mvvm/

-
I'd recommend spending the same amount of time watching the videos from Mix10
http://live.visitmix.com/Videos

Especially these MVVM sessions
Understanding the MVVM pattern http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/EX14
Building your own MVVM framework http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/EX15

There are a few sites that list all of the pure Silverlight sessions, but if 
you scan down through them you can easily pick out which ones would be the most 
relevant for you
-David Burela

-

On the topic of good Silverlight resources, I can highly recommend the new 
Design Toolbox tutorials:

 http://www.microsoft.com/design/toolbox/school/

Easily the highest quality (and most enjoyable) way that I have found to learn 
about developing Silverlight solutions so far.




Kind Regards,

Darren Neimke
darren.nei...@live.com
http://2010wave.blogspot.com

-

Regards,
Vinay Tripathi


-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nic Roche
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2010 9:01 AM
To: michaelsli...@gmail.com; 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: WPF Book Recommendations?

> Surely Paul Stovell will be writing a book soon?

He is well informed in this space, and would do a great job if he decided
to.

I have been to large paid presentations on "Using Prism in WPF" conducted by
Paul, and he does know his stuff...

Nic

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of silky
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 3:43 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Parker
 wrote:
> I haven't done any WPF development but I've read WPF Unleashed and liked
it.

Surely Paul Stovell will be writing a book soon?

I've never read any books on WPF, and I've done a bit of it, but then again,
I don't read programming books (that explains it ...), so that doesn't count
for much.

--
silky

  http://www.programmingbranch.com/


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RE: WPF Book Recommendations?

[Nic Roche]

> Surely Paul Stovell will be writing a book soon?

He is well informed in this space, and would do a great job if he decided
to.

I have been to large paid presentations on "Using Prism in WPF" conducted by
Paul, and he does know his stuff...

Nic

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of silky
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 3:43 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: WPF Book Recommendations?

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Parker
 wrote:
> I haven't done any WPF development but I've read WPF Unleashed and liked
it.

Surely Paul Stovell will be writing a book soon?

I've never read any books on WPF, and I've done a bit of it, but then again,
I don't read programming books (that explains it ...), so that doesn't count
for much.

--
silky

  http://www.programmingbranch.com/

RE: [OT] Visual Studio 2010 RC

[Tony Wright]

Maybe so, but I use many machines with many different configurations. I
often don't have much control over particular machine configurations
(clients' machines, sometime XP, sometimes low memory 2Gig.) So it seems
that you're lucky, or I'm doing something that you're not. Most of the time,
I am using installs that have no extra plug-ins. Either way, it's an issue I
come across quite frequently, and I'm sure other people have experienced it.

T.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of silky
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 10:31 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Visual Studio 2010 RC

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM, ste...@malikoff.com
 wrote:
>
> Tony commented:
>
> open up 2 or more instances of VS2008 and the system eventually crashes,
but that's
> something we find we do frequently
>
> Two or more instances crash your system? Hmmm I run 5 to 6 concurrent
instances of VS2008 almost every day (a mixture of winforms clients and
services projects, and some ASP),
> and although it can occasionally slow down a little (or a lot), I haven't
had any problems with VS2008 stability due to the number running. And that's
on a Vista box, to boot.

Yeah. Obviously the problem with anecdote-based-analysis is that you
don't get much good information to actually compare on. I'd guess his
crashes are related to plugins or something external.


> Steve

-- 
silky

  http://www.programmingbranch.com/

Re: [OT] Visual Studio 2010 RC

[silky]

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM, ste...@malikoff.com
 wrote:
>
> Tony commented:
>
> open up 2 or more instances of VS2008 and the system eventually crashes, but 
> that's
> something we find we do frequently
>
> Two or more instances crash your system? Hmmm I run 5 to 6 concurrent 
> instances of VS2008 almost every day (a mixture of winforms clients and 
> services projects, and some ASP),
> and although it can occasionally slow down a little (or a lot), I haven't had 
> any problems with VS2008 stability due to the number running. And that's on a 
> Vista box, to boot.

Yeah. Obviously the problem with anecdote-based-analysis is that you
don't get much good information to actually compare on. I'd guess his
crashes are related to plugins or something external.


> Steve

-- 
silky

  http://www.programmingbranch.com/

Re: [OT] Visual Studio 2010 RC

[ste...@malikoff.com]

Tony commented:
open up 2 or more instances of VS2008 and the system eventually crashes, but 
that's 
something we find we do frequently

Two or more instances crash your system? Hmmm I run 5 to 6 concurrent instances 
of VS2008 almost every day (a mixture of winforms clients and services 
projects, and some ASP), and although it can occasionally slow down a little 
(or a lot), I haven't had any problems with VS2008 stability due to the number 
running. And that's on a Vista box, to boot.

Steve

RE: WPF Book Recommendations?

[Ian Thomas]

Not a book recommendation, but an article that reads well - from Red Gate: 

  From WinForm to
WPF: A Quick Reference Guide 

Michael Sorens provides a handy wallchart to help migration between WinForm
/ WPF, VS 2008 / 2010, and .NET 3.5 / 4.0.  This can be downloaded for free
from the speech-bubble at the head of the article. He also describes the
current weaknesses in WPF, and the most obvious differences between the two.

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

  _  

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Matt Siebert
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 9:34 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: WPF Book Recommendations?

 

Hi all,

 

Can anyone recommend a good book for getting started with WPF?

 

Also, does anyone use a Safari   Books
Online subscription?  Is it worth the price tag?  Are there better
alternatives?

 

Cheers,

Matt.