Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread Thomas Koster
Hi list,

On 15 August 2013 12:46, David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com
 wrote:

 I actually get more discomfort from the mouse than I do from the keyboard.


Same here. I get a cramped mousehand when gaming sometimes. Time for a
break then.

On 15 August 2013 13:08, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote:

 Re ergonomic.  Try it for a while, you'll learn to love leaning your
 wrists on something.  And likely hate the normal ones.  I use one at home
 on the iMac - for such an ergonomic company Apple has awful keyboards and
 mice.


I often use three or more different keyboards during the day and posture
seems a much more significant factor to me on stress and strain than any
attribute of the keyboard itself. Opposite to Mike's experience, staying
mobile at the keyboard is the key for me, rather than leaning on anything.
This may be because coding needs much more than A-Z. The keyboard itself
doesn't matter except when typing quickly from muscle memory.

That said, personally, ergonomic is synonymous with uncomfortable
- keyboards, mice, chairs, car interiors, phones, toothbrushes, cutlery,
you name it - but I understand that it may fit others. Compact is as bad
for me as ergonomic. I don't have larger-than-average hands but larger
keyboards and larger mice especially are much more comfortable for me, as
well as large cutlery and steering wheels.

I'm still young, but I find that I type better and with less stress at any
keyboard by adopting a pianist's posture at the computer: back straight
(not leaning against the chair back), elbows in, wrists level (not leaning
on the desk or gel pad) and fingers curled so that my whole upper body is
relaxed and mobile from the seat to my fingers. Of course you don't need to
move from side to side nearly as much at the computer as you would when
performing at the piano, but if I let the brain subconsciously take care of
balance with micro-movements in the back, shoulders, elbows and wrists then
all upper body muscles will not tense whether I'm reaching as near as the
tab key or as far as the phone. I can't type efficiently with my shoulders
anchored to the chair back, let alone wrists anchored to the desk (although
I am guilty of adopting this slouched posture from time to time when
despondently mouse-wheeling through a forum full of garbage answers hidden
amongst the advertising).

You can also try standing at the keyboard, which I find surprisingly
comfortable (at proper height like on the kitchen bench of course).

--
Thomas


Re: Share File Between Two Servers

2013-08-15 Thread Vasilis Samaltanos
 7. You can synchronize any folders. No need to add stuff to a standard
folder like DropBox.

Actually you can use symbolic links in the Dropbox base folder therefore
you can syncronize any folder.


Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread les

Heya David,

I've tried and own many keyboards (bit of a junkie). I have a couple  
of Microsoft Ergonomic ones, I've tried a few mechanical ones, and  
I've also got a few weirdish ones (microsoft arc, kenesis freestyle  
split keyboard (split down the middle as two x half keyboards)).


My favourite is by far the Filco Majestictouch Tenkeyless with the  
Blue Cherry switches. It's a mechanical keyboard with Cherry switches,  
and this particular keyboard has no keypad, or other junk buttons  
(email/paint/etc) AusPCMarket sell them in Aus and provide pretty good  
service.


I use the Filco probably 80% of the time, and a Microsoft Ergonomic  
keyboard the other 20%. What I really disliked about the Ergonomic one  
was the Keypad as well as I found that reaching for the mouse started  
to become a problem. Given that, their new one looks interesting.


I also found the new keyboard on Amazon, but it looks like neither  
they, or anyone else is shipping.


I'm currently in Manhattan returning to Australia on Thursday (leaving  
Tuesday here time) and if anyone knows where I can buy the new MS  
keyboard locally and wants one, I can probably pick a few up and bring  
them back to Straya (one for myself too!).


Cheers,
--
Les Hughes
l...@datarev.com.au

Quoting David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com:


A bit off topic and a bit on topic.  I've been in the market for a good
developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like.  I
was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard.

A few qualifying points:

I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one on the right of the
keyboard.  Not that I have anything against them, I just want my mouse to
be closer.  I've tested this using a cheap (and crappy) laptop like
keyboard and there is a noticeable difference in comfort.  I can just as
easily by a separate number pad keyboard to position elsewhere.

I would prefer the cursor keys and the other navigation keys to be in a
reasonable location.  My crappy keyboard as some of these along the
bottom.  It also sacrificed the right Control key in favour of a Scroll
Lock key.  Who uses scroll lock any more?

I don't like those ergonomic keyboards that split the keyboard to be
comfortable for two hands.  I don't know about the rest of you but I spend
at least as much time with one hand on the mouse and the other on the
keyboard as I do with both hands on the keyboard.  So the ergonomic aspects
are actually a hindrance when typing with one hand.

I don't care about media buttons or any other specific use button.  I never
user them.  They just make the keyboard bigger.  20% of the keys on my
current keyboard will never be used.

Obviously I want the keys to be comfortable to use 8 hours a day.

The recently announce keyboard from microsoft is fairly close to what I'm
looking for:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-just-plain-weird-looking/

But it's ergonomic style is a bit of a negative.

Any thoughts?

David

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes
 will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!
 -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama







Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread David Richards
I've done some more searching.  I can't believe it never occurred to me to
include compact as a keyword when searching for these keyboards.  Has
anyone used either of these keyboards?

http://shopap.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/auweb/LenovoPortal/en_AU/integration.workflow:ProductDisplayItem?IsBundle=falseGroupID=460Code=0B47190sb=:01CC:4A46:hide_menu_area=yescid=au|cse|df|myshopping|101CA_6C15C=1924906834

or shortened: http://goo.gl/TXvTyx

Lenovo thinkpad compact I think its called.  It looks ok and has the right
layout.  Although it seems to have laptop style keys.  It also seems far
more expensive than it should be.

This one (logitech k340) still has the number pad so I'm not so sure:

http://www.logitech.com/en-sg/product/6007?crid=26

I grabbed one of these (logitech k230) for $23 from office works on the way
home last night.  Again it still has the number pad but it is more compact.

 http://www.logitech.com/en-au/product/wireless-keyboard-k230

It's not a great keyboard but my mouse is a little closer.  Worse case I'll
delegate it to a couch keyboard.

David

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes
 will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!
 -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama


Re: [OT] Developer keyboard

2013-08-15 Thread David Richards
Thanks Les, that looks pretty good.  Going by reviews it might be exactly
what I'm looking for.  Although I'd get the brown switches as I prefer not
to have any clicking sound.  If the keys feel good to use I'll be happy.
 And a place nearby sells them for $149.  I think I'll go get one :)

David

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes
 will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!
 -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama


On 16 August 2013 09:48, l...@datarev.com.au wrote:

 Heya David,

 I've tried and own many keyboards (bit of a junkie). I have a couple of
 Microsoft Ergonomic ones, I've tried a few mechanical ones, and I've also
 got a few weirdish ones (microsoft arc, kenesis freestyle split keyboard
 (split down the middle as two x half keyboards)).

 My favourite is by far the Filco Majestictouch Tenkeyless with the Blue
 Cherry switches. It's a mechanical keyboard with Cherry switches, and this
 particular keyboard has no keypad, or other junk buttons (email/paint/etc)
 AusPCMarket sell them in Aus and provide pretty good service.

 I use the Filco probably 80% of the time, and a Microsoft Ergonomic
 keyboard the other 20%. What I really disliked about the Ergonomic one was
 the Keypad as well as I found that reaching for the mouse started to become
 a problem. Given that, their new one looks interesting.

 I also found the new keyboard on Amazon, but it looks like neither they,
 or anyone else is shipping.

 I'm currently in Manhattan returning to Australia on Thursday (leaving
 Tuesday here time) and if anyone knows where I can buy the new MS keyboard
 locally and wants one, I can probably pick a few up and bring them back to
 Straya (one for myself too!).

 Cheers,
 --
 Les Hughes
 l...@datarev.com.au


 Quoting David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com**:

  A bit off topic and a bit on topic.  I've been in the market for a good
 developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like.  I
 was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard.

 A few qualifying points:

 I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one on the right of the
 keyboard.  Not that I have anything against them, I just want my mouse to
 be closer.  I've tested this using a cheap (and crappy) laptop like
 keyboard and there is a noticeable difference in comfort.  I can just as
 easily by a separate number pad keyboard to position elsewhere.

 I would prefer the cursor keys and the other navigation keys to be in a
 reasonable location.  My crappy keyboard as some of these along the
 bottom.  It also sacrificed the right Control key in favour of a Scroll
 Lock key.  Who uses scroll lock any more?

 I don't like those ergonomic keyboards that split the keyboard to be
 comfortable for two hands.  I don't know about the rest of you but I spend
 at least as much time with one hand on the mouse and the other on the
 keyboard as I do with both hands on the keyboard.  So the ergonomic
 aspects
 are actually a hindrance when typing with one hand.

 I don't care about media buttons or any other specific use button.  I
 never
 user them.  They just make the keyboard bigger.  20% of the keys on my
 current keyboard will never be used.

 Obviously I want the keys to be comfortable to use 8 hours a day.

 The recently announce keyboard from microsoft is fairly close to what I'm
 looking for:

 http://arstechnica.com/**gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-**
 new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-**just-plain-weird-looking/http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-just-plain-weird-looking/

 But it's ergonomic style is a bit of a negative.

 Any thoughts?

 David

 If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes
  will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!
  -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama







Re: [OT] Windows Server 2012

2013-08-15 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
I'm ok with it. Works quite nicely on my servers and I have heaps of them
but no production on HyperV, only staging and only remote desktop which
works ok.
My main issue is that RPD keeps dropping out if I do nothing. If I use it
it's all good and fast but if I leave it open for 3-4minutes it's dead and
I have to reconnect


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Folks, does anyone else think that Windows 2012 Server is really weird? I
 was playing with it last night for the first serious time and think it's
 like a crippled blend of bits of other versions of Windows. I've got it
 running inside Hyper-V where it boots to the desktop and you can barely do
 anything there except run Server Manager. I can't use the Windows key (due
 to Hyper-V) to get to the Start screen or show the Windows+X fake menu, so
 after booting I'm bogged at the desktop and can't do anything. I have to go
 full-screen to enable the Windows key and navigate around (which is a
 nuisance).

 From inside Server manager you can Click Manage and Tools to open many
 Admin tools, but not the familiar Control Panel apps. Even Server Manager
 is a weird app unlike other admin tools, and it's so hard to scroll around
 it and find things.

 Is anyone actually using Windows 2012 Server in anger? It doesn't seem to
 fit in anywhere, like a hallucination that was released by accident.

 Greg K