Dynamics consultants

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Hi All,

Does anyone know any Dynamics (CRM and Sales and Marketing addons / modules
specifically) consultants or contractors who they rate highly?

We're looking at moving off our existing ERP at Codify and onto the
Microsoft stack. Need someone to help us set things up best practice. We
are highly geo/timezone flexible.

David Connors
da...@connors.com // +61 417 189 363
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: [OT] Windows Server install problems

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Just put the server in a vm on win11. All your problems will go away.

David Connors
da...@connors.com // +61 417 189 363


On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 10:17 am, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> They took a lot of device support out of server along the way and that is
>> when I stopped running it in my laptop. I'd install windows 11 and turn on
>> hyper v and run server in a vm
>>
>
> I guess this means I must shop around for a hardware combination (or a
> whole box) that specifically runs the latest Windows servers. The price of
> that is worrying, and I need do the research. I've been lucky for the last
> 20 years because old work PCs could be rebranded as home servers without
> any hiccups at all -- *Greg*
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: [OT] Windows Server install problems

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

They took a lot of device support out of server along the way and that is
when I stopped running it in my laptop. I'd install windows 11 and turn on
hyper v and run server in a vm

David Connors
da...@connors.com // +61 417 189 363


On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 at 16:32, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Folks, it's been a non-TGIF day. My old server under the desk running
> Server 2019 (or 2016 I forget) died this morning and I'm trying to create a
> replacement
>
> I have a brand new *one of these*
> ,
> so I installed Server 2019 and it all went smoothly until it booted and all
> chipset devices are dead, including the network adapter and the screen is
> stuck at SGA. The only drivers I can find are for Windows 7 to 11 and
> nothing else.
>
> I tried installing 2016 as an experiment but it produces the same results.
>
> Am I wasting my time? Is that box incapable of running recent Windows
> Server editions?
>
> *Thanks, Greg*
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Yeah you can use testflight to distribute betas and set up an enterprise
area in the app store for your own enterprise apps to be distributed to
enterprise enrolled devices.

Not the same as sideloading a random executable though and you're still
subject to Apple's review process etc.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 16:22, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> Are you in the Apple Developer program? I’m guessing there might be a test
> option there.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
> 
>  |
> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 4:46 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
> *Subject:* Re: Private Apple App distribution
>
>
>
> So you're all telling me that there is no "side load" feature for iPhone
> apps?! This is a dreadful obstacle to getting the app onto company staff
> phones. Luckily I have an Apple account that was recently renewed (for 150
> goddamn $), but I'll have to fill-in all the store compliance documentation
> and make keys and fumble through their cryptic alien processes, and so on
> and on. Goddammit again.
>
>
>
> *GK*
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
>
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

The Pro and Pro Max do, the others don't.



On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:35, mike smith via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> They're not even doing full speed USB C iirc
>
> We've come full circle: remember db25 connections, the only thing standard
> was the connector.
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 15:45 David Connors via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah they did for iPhone 15 - still sell the old ones with Lightning, and
>> most headphones, and mice, and trackpads, and probably other things.
>>
>> I love how Apple used the argument that they didn't want to be forced to
>> do it because it would stifle innovation - meanwhile they're selling
>> lightning that runs at USB 2.0 speeds while the rest of the planet has
>> moved on.
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:08, mike smith via ozdotnet <
>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't the Euros make them go to USB C?
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 15:31 David Connors via ozdotnet, <
>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure other countries will jump on board once the technical
>>>> precedence has been set.
>>>>
>>>> Apple can be very stubborn in holding on to old/dumb ideas. They're
>>>> still selling stuff with lightning connector in 2024.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 14:12, mike smith via ozdotnet <
>>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So the "way" will be to use a VPN, and set your Apple devices up in
>>>>> Europe?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering if any other countries will jump on board.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 14:29 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
>>>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting that there’s been a discussion going on with the EU about
>>>>>> this. They’re insisting that Apple allow “side-loading” of apps. In
>>>>>> response, Apple has apparently said they’re splitting their app store 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> one for EU, and one for the rest of the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr Greg Low
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_=DwMFAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc=>
>>>>>>  |
>>>>>> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low=DwMFAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:46 PM
>>>>>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>>>>>> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Private Apple App distribution
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're planning a MAUI app to be installed on company Android and
>>>>>> Apple phones. For Android I can just generate the APK file and side-load 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> (after the security settings are relaxed). I don't know how to do the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> for iPhones. We don't want the app in the store. Assuming there is a
>>>>>> convention for "side-loading" Apple apps, what's the technique? Is anyone
>>>>>> doing this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few years ago we published a Xamarin app, but it was for the public
>>>>>> and was published in both stores. This time the app's private to the
>>>>>> company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Greg Keogh*
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ozdotnet mailing list
>>>>>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>>>>>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ozdotnet mailing list
>>>>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>>>>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ozdotnet mailing list
>>>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>>>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>>>
>>> --
>>> ozdotnet mailing list
>>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>>
>> --
>> ozdotnet mailing list
>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

Yeah they did for iPhone 15 - still sell the old ones with Lightning, and
most headphones, and mice, and trackpads, and probably other things.

I love how Apple used the argument that they didn't want to be forced to do
it because it would stifle innovation - meanwhile they're selling lightning
that runs at USB 2.0 speeds while the rest of the planet has moved on.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 15:08, mike smith via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Didn't the Euros make them go to USB C?
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 15:31 David Connors via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> I am sure other countries will jump on board once the technical
>> precedence has been set.
>>
>> Apple can be very stubborn in holding on to old/dumb ideas. They're still
>> selling stuff with lightning connector in 2024.
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 14:12, mike smith via ozdotnet <
>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So the "way" will be to use a VPN, and set your Apple devices up in
>>> Europe?
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if any other countries will jump on board.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 14:29 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
>>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting that there’s been a discussion going on with the EU about
>>>> this. They’re insisting that Apple allow “side-loading” of apps. In
>>>> response, Apple has apparently said they’re splitting their app store with
>>>> one for EU, and one for the rest of the world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr Greg Low
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>>>>
>>>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_=DwMFAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc=>
>>>>  |
>>>> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low=DwMFAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:46 PM
>>>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>>>> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
>>>> *Subject:* Private Apple App distribution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We're planning a MAUI app to be installed on company Android and Apple
>>>> phones. For Android I can just generate the APK file and side-load it
>>>> (after the security settings are relaxed). I don't know how to do the same
>>>> for iPhones. We don't want the app in the store. Assuming there is a
>>>> convention for "side-loading" Apple apps, what's the technique? Is anyone
>>>> doing this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago we published a Xamarin app, but it was for the public
>>>> and was published in both stores. This time the app's private to the
>>>> company.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> *Greg Keogh*
>>>> --
>>>> ozdotnet mailing list
>>>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>>>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>>>
>>> --
>>> ozdotnet mailing list
>>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>>
>> --
>> ozdotnet mailing list
>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Private Apple App distribution

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

I am sure other countries will jump on board once the technical
precedence has been set.

Apple can be very stubborn in holding on to old/dumb ideas. They're still
selling stuff with lightning connector in 2024.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 14:12, mike smith via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> So the "way" will be to use a VPN, and set your Apple devices up in Europe?
>
> I'm wondering if any other countries will jump on board.
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, 14:29 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting that there’s been a discussion going on with the EU about
>> this. They’re insisting that Apple allow “side-loading” of apps. In
>> response, Apple has apparently said they’re splitting their app store with
>> one for EU, and one for the rest of the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile
>>
>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com
>> 
>>  |
>> About Greg:  https://about.me/greg.low
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:46 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>> *Cc:* Greg Keogh 
>> *Subject:* Private Apple App distribution
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> We're planning a MAUI app to be installed on company Android and Apple
>> phones. For Android I can just generate the APK file and side-load it
>> (after the security settings are relaxed). I don't know how to do the same
>> for iPhones. We don't want the app in the store. Assuming there is a
>> convention for "side-loading" Apple apps, what's the technique? Is anyone
>> doing this?
>>
>>
>>
>> A few years ago we published a Xamarin app, but it was for the public and
>> was published in both stores. This time the app's private to the company.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> *Greg Keogh*
>> --
>> ozdotnet mailing list
>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: [OT] Contracting PAYG vs ABN

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

You should seek advice from a chartered accountant but briefly, if more
than 50% of your income comes from your own personal efforts then just go
with PAYG.

You're being asked this question because the ATO etc does not like people
who are individual employees behaving as if they're companies when all
they're doing is working full time for one employer.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 13:31, Tom P via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I’m getting asked by a recruiter whether I want to do PAYG or use a
> personal ABN for a contracting position. I never really understood why one
> would use an ABN as you’d need to get your own insurances etc. Can anybody
> explain?
>
> Cheers
> Tom
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: AEC form

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

I didn't think the government was handing IBM any more contracts ...

On Fri, 15 Sept 2023 at 19:39, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> It almost makes sense but there was no visible control on the form saying
> that. And after fixing the captcha error and resubmitting, it just worked.
> So the other one wasn't an error anyway.
>
> Bizarre.
>
> Regards
>
> Greg
>
> Dr Greg Low
> Director
> SQL Down Under Pty Ltd
> Office: 1300SQLSQL (1300775775)
> Mobile: +61419201410
> About me: https://greglow.me
>
> --
> *From:* Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2023 7:32:04 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Cc:* Dr Greg Low 
> *Subject:* AEC form
>
> Whoever develops code for the AEC really needs to take a long hard look at
> themselves. Second error is the Captcha failing even though it didn't ask
> for it in the first place. It wasn't visible on the form.
>
> And I'm not sure what attempt at English the other error is meant to be.
>
> Does anyone review this?
>
> Regards
>
> Greg
>
> Dr Greg Low
> Director
> SQL Down Under Pty Ltd
> Office: 1300SQLSQL (1300775775)
> Mobile: +61419201410
> About me: https://greglow.me
>
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:44, Dr Greg Low  wrote:

> Yep, we talk about browsers like there’s consistency there. There still
> isn’t. And it’s a huge hit on productivity. I see so much lost effort
> trying to align pixels across different browsers, different versions of
> browsers, etc. It’s just silly.
>
>
>
> I remember being on a web app project. I was doing the data bits, and
> there were 10 devs doing the web parts.
>
>
>
> After 6 months, I looked at what the other 10 had produced and knew I
> could have built that myself in a winform app in a fortnight, by myself.
>

This is probably more down to approach. If they were building from scratch
by themselves, then I agree, productivity will be terrible; however on the
flip side, you have to remember that 80+% of the cost of software is after
the code is written and in the support phase. For our internal apps, we use
a commercial off the shelf theme and a couple of other components and stick
with those. The consistency of UI layout, responsiveness across form
factors etc is all done very cost effectively by using something like:
https://angular-material.fusetheme.com/dashboards/project - best $700
you'll ever spend.

If ease of development was our primary concern we would all be building
Microsoft Access apps.
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:30, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Sure, deploying a web app to a server is easier than distributing thick
> client updates to many recipients, but that's a lucky side-effect. I stand
> by my claim that the web browser is a woefully inadequate host for business
> applications.
>

Pretty much every application is delivered on the web these days.

Even popular thick client apps are just web technologies built into a
binary. Looking over what I have open at the moment: Safari, Edge, Azure
Data Studio (built on electron), Teams (built on react), Discord (built on
electron), Microsoft TODO (???), Word/Excel/PPTX (C++/PAL).

David.
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:06, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote

> I must end on a sad note. ASP.NET, Blazor, JS, or whatever, all finish-up
> rendering in a web browser. It's tragic that the ancient dumb web browser
> is now the only host for web apps, and that we must attempt to present
> serious business applications using HTML, CSS and JS. The web browser was
> invented so we could have flame wars and look at pictures of cats and porn,
> it's barely evolved since then and it's completely inadequate for rendering
> business applications. Sure it can, but look at the flaming hoops and all
> the weird quirks you have to jump through. Web development is in a
> lamentable state.
>

You have a short memory of what it was like deploying apps back when thick
clients were the only option. Modern web has done more to streamline ops
than anything else and reduced application deployment to pushing code to an
app service and end-user deployment to pasting a link in an e-mail or IM.
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: Blazor popularity and use

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

The only places I've ever heard of Blazor being used is .
microsoft.com and this mailing list.

We do Angular exclusively and see a lot of it in the wild from other dev at
our client sites.



On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:30, DotNet Dude via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> I find it very hard to believe Blazor demand has overtaken JS. That’s an
> insane comment from Adam
>
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2023 at 12:05, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Is anyone here actively using Blazor on a decent sized project? I used it
>>> for a while on my last contract but am unable to find new work anywhere
>>> that uses Blazor, not a single one!
>>
>>
>> Compared to server-side ASP.NET and JS Frameworks, Blazor is a gift from
>> heaven .. well ... sort-of. Here's a Friday story.
>>
>> With the death of Silverlight, we had to replace an app with a quite rich
>> UI with something else, what?! Like many people, I was spitting chips angry
>> at the suggestion we must replace our Silverlight apps with HTML5 apps. The
>> idea that HTML+CSS+JS could replace a WPF-like rich web UI made me laugh
>> and cry at the same time.
>>
>> Angular was really popular around 2018 so we got an offer to write a JS
>> replacement for $200/hr. I then decided to learn Angular and watched 5
>> hours of a 10 hour Angular course, at which point I gave up and said f**k
>> that s**t. Now what?
>>
>> Luckily, Blazor 0.9 was in preview around this time. I spent a whole
>> Sunday afternoon experimenting with Blazor. By the end of the day I had
>> quite a sophisticated hobby app working with only a few hundred lines of
>> coding, thanks to the familiarity of using VS, C# and Razor markup (with a
>> bit of JS). The same app in ASP.NET would have taken 5 times as long and
>> 5 times the code. The same app in Angular would have required unfamiliar
>> tooling and millions of lines of script.
>>
>> To answer your question, I have one quite complex Blazor app being used
>> by some huge US companies to analyse marketing data (using Telerik and
>> SpreadJS components to attempt to make charts and grids as fancy as was
>> possible in Silverlight). I have a couple of smaller apps in live use, and
>> few little ones for utility use.
>>
>> I know the guys at Melbourne App Development
>>  are really keen on Blazor and
>> were using it for some serious apps just as it reached version 1.0. About
>> 18 months ago, Adam Cogan at SSW said during the preamble to one of their
>> monthly presentations, that Blazor demand had overtaken JS.
>>
>> I hope other people in here have similar stories.
>>
>> I must end on a sad note. ASP.NET, Blazor, JS, or whatever, all
>> finish-up rendering in a web browser. It's tragic that the ancient dumb web
>> browser is now the only host for web apps, and that we must attempt to
>> present serious business applications using HTML, CSS and JS. The web
>> browser was invented so we could have flame wars and look at pictures of
>> cats and porn, it's barely evolved since then and it's completely
>> inadequate for rendering business applications. Sure it can, but look at
>> the flaming hoops and all the weird quirks you have to jump through. Web
>> development is in a lamentable state.
>>
>> *Greg Keogh*
>> --
>> ozdotnet mailing list
>> To manage your subscription, access archives:
>> https://codify.mailman3.com/
>
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: A real C++ vs C# story

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

I have never understood the fixation with C++ unless you're in the business
of writing kernels, device drivers, embedded systems, etc.

On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 08:44, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet 
wrote:

> Folks, it's Friday and I have an anecdote to share before I return to
> today's coding fiasco. I'll just tell you what happened and try to avoid
> making judgements, I'll leave that to you.
>
> For about 4 years we've had an Azure hosted Web API/service driving a
> moderately complex Blazor app and some other smaller clients. The service
> hosted a C++ library that did the heavy lifting of generating
> cross-tabulation reports. The trouble was, that the service would randomly
> crash deep inside the C++ dll and it would leave no useful diagnostic
> evidence, usually just a hint about some kind of memory access violation.
> It would never crash in testing, only in Azure. I presume here is a way to
> diagnose this sort of crash in Azure hosting, but you probably need the
> minidump and symbol files out of the C++ compile, I'm not exactly sure, as
> I just couldn't face the toil, and by great luck it was due for replacement
> anyway. Some very large US companies were suffering from the crash
> interruptions and there was a serious risk that we could lose their
> business.
>
> The lucky part is that the huge C++ codebase was already being rewritten
> in C#, so we went into a frenzy of continued conversion and testing, and
> the C# replacement is now about 90% rolled-out. and guess what?! ... The
> random crashes are gone and one customer even sent us a message of thanks
> for the new reliability.
>
> We did have a few small unhandled exceptions, but I simply went to the
> Azure portal logs and the stack trace pointed us straight to the problem
> point. We could usually publish a fix within half an hour.
>
> So years of random C++ crashes were completely cured by a C# rewrite.
>
> *Greg K*
> --
> ozdotnet mailing list
> To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ 

Re: [OT] Junked business registry overhaul blew out by $2.3b

[David Connors via ozdotnet]

On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 at 16:01, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

[...]

 We just can’t keep doing this.
>

Oh, yes we can.
-- 
ozdotnet mailing list 
To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/