OT - So, what's new in the world of programming?
Anything interesting? Anyone doing cool things with cool stuff that I would have absolutely no idea about? Interested to know. -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
Re: OT - So, what's new in the world of programming?
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Peter Gfader pe...@gfader.com wrote: I came across Mutation testing 2 weeks ago. And loved the idea. But didn't dig into it too much yet. The Idea of Mutation testing How can you trust your tests? Let a tool change your app a little and run all tests. If 1 test fails, because of that change, you had good tests in place... Heh, that's pretty cute, some sort of fuzzing applied to tests. Don't mind that. Nice one. More here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_testing and a .NET implementation here http://www.simple-talk.com/dotnet/.net-tools/mutation-testing/ .peter.gfader. http://blog.gfader.com -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
Re: OT - So, what's new in the world of programming?
Not exactly new but I don't remember seeing it mentioned on here before Pex automated white box testing. Unit testing for people who don't like writing endless unit tests. Also moles for delegate testing. Been playing around with it for a while and the time savings are good but the learning curve to get the most out of it can be a bit steep. Simon http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/pex/ On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:35 AM, silky michaelsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Peter Gfader pe...@gfader.com wrote: I came across Mutation testing 2 weeks ago. And loved the idea. But didn't dig into it too much yet. The Idea of Mutation testing How can you trust your tests? Let a tool change your app a little and run all tests. If 1 test fails, because of that change, you had good tests in place... Heh, that's pretty cute, some sort of fuzzing applied to tests. Don't mind that. Nice one. More here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_testing and a .NET implementation here http://www.simple-talk.com/dotnet/.net-tools/mutation-testing/ .peter.gfader. http://blog.gfader.com -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature.
Re: OT - So, what's new in the world of programming?
+1 to Pex It is awesome for generating test inputs. If another dev comes to you and says: I am done You run Pex over those methods and get quite a lot of exceptions ;-) .peter.gfader. http://blog.gfader.com On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:55 AM, silky michaelsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Simon Reed simon.spectre.l...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly new but I don't remember seeing it mentioned on here before Pex automated white box testing. Unit testing for people who don't like writing endless unit tests. Also moles for delegate testing. Been playing around with it for a while and the time savings are good but the learning curve to get the most out of it can be a bit steep. Cool; also from the list of VS Power Tools; this looks pretty cool: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/271d0904-f178-4ce9-956b-d9bfa4902745 Simon http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/pex/ -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature. -- .peter.gfader. http://blog.gfader.com/ http://twitter.com/peitor
Re: OT - So, what's new in the world of programming?
Yeah the first time I ran it over my own code I nearly had a heart attack! On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Peter Gfader pe...@gfader.com wrote: +1 to Pex It is awesome for generating test inputs. If another dev comes to you and says: I am done You run Pex over those methods and get quite a lot of exceptions ;-) .peter.gfader. http://blog.gfader.com On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:55 AM, silky michaelsli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Simon Reed simon.spectre.l...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly new but I don't remember seeing it mentioned on here before Pex automated white box testing. Unit testing for people who don't like writing endless unit tests. Also moles for delegate testing. Been playing around with it for a while and the time savings are good but the learning curve to get the most out of it can be a bit steep. Cool; also from the list of VS Power Tools; this looks pretty cool: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/271d0904-f178-4ce9-956b-d9bfa4902745 Simon http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/pex/ -- silky http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy of being this signature. -- .peter.gfader. http://blog.gfader.com/ http://twitter.com/peitor
