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> > Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… > Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- *Greg K*
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No back problems. Wanted a stand up desk because: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/25/health/la-he-dont-sit-20130525 Also it’s an aid to metabolism/weight loss/fitness. Not sure if I’ll end up doing all day standing (I suspect that it’ll be a combination of standing/sitting throughout the day) - will be an interesting experiment though! Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Greg Keogh Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2014 4:09 PM To: ozDotNet Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- Greg K
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You guys should check out IkeaHacks .. basically combine Ikea furniture and you end up with some gnarly looking things like standup desks etc :) --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM, wrote: > Just finished making this - it’s not pretty but cost < $200 total to > make… Typing this email while standing up - seems stable with only very > slight almost imperceptible wobble…. Will be interesting doing a full weeks > work next week standing up… > > > Jason Roberts > Journeyman Software Developer > > Twitter: @robertsjason > Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com > Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts > > === > I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ > === > >
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Yeah I did look at some of those, there was a really cool adjustable one, but Perth Ikea never had the bits in stock, also this AU kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2052694050/the-bystander-wooden-standing-desk Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, 26 October 2014 3:01 PM To: ozDotNet You guys should check out IkeaHacks .. basically combine Ikea furniture and you end up with some gnarly looking things like standup desks etc :) --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM, wrote: Just finished making this - it’s not pretty but cost < $200 total to make… Typing this email while standing up - seems stable with only very slight almost imperceptible wobble…. Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ ===
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I had been considering a standing desk on the condition that I also have a sitting desk. I'm not convinced standing for 8-9 hours a day would be a good idea. The option I was considering (but haven't tried to implement yet) was to setup a standard sitting desk but then add an additional monitor, keyboard and mouse as a standing desk next to the sitting desk. You then have a KVM so you can switch between your standing and sitting monitors. This means switching between sitting and standing is as simple as pressing a button and standing up (or sitting down). It doesn't require a fancy or modified desk and if you happen to have a spare monitor/mouse/keyboard you only need a standard cheap standing desk and kvm. This setup would even work with multiple monitors, especially since you don't need to switch all the monitors. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 26 October 2014 22:44, wrote: > Yeah I did look at some of those, there was a really cool adjustable > one, but Perth Ikea never had the bits in stock, > > also this AU kickstarter: > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2052694050/the-bystander-wooden-standing-desk > > Jason Roberts > Journeyman Software Developer > > Twitter: @robertsjason > Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com > Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts > > === > I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ > === > > *From:* Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Sunday, 26 October 2014 3:01 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > > You guys should check out IkeaHacks .. basically combine Ikea furniture > and you end up with some gnarly looking things like standup desks etc :) > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM, wrote: > >> Just finished making this - it’s not pretty but cost < $200 total to >> make… Typing this email while standing up - seems stable with only very >> slight almost imperceptible wobble…. Will be interesting doing a full weeks >> work next week standing up… >> >> >> Jason Roberts >> Journeyman Software Developer >> >> Twitter: @robertsjason >> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com >> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts >> >> === >> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ >> === >> >> >
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I guess there’s load of hacks to make standing possible, from what I’ve read standing 8/9 hours is prob not what to aim for… Whichever way you do it check out the posture images on the web - e.g. elbows 90 degrees or slightly lower when standing, etc. Today I’m combining Pomodoro Technique with standing sitting to see how that feels (e.g. 2 pomodoros standing followed by 2 sitting etc) Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: David Richards Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 5:49 AM To: ozDotNet I had been considering a standing desk on the condition that I also have a sitting desk. I'm not convinced standing for 8-9 hours a day would be a good idea. The option I was considering (but haven't tried to implement yet) was to setup a standard sitting desk but then add an additional monitor, keyboard and mouse as a standing desk next to the sitting desk. You then have a KVM so you can switch between your standing and sitting monitors. This means switching between sitting and standing is as simple as pressing a button and standing up (or sitting down). It doesn't require a fancy or modified desk and if you happen to have a spare monitor/mouse/keyboard you only need a standard cheap standing desk and kvm. This setup would even work with multiple monitors, especially since you don't need to switch all the monitors. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 26 October 2014 22:44, wrote: Yeah I did look at some of those, there was a really cool adjustable one, but Perth Ikea never had the bits in stock, also this AU kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2052694050/the-bystander-wooden-standing-desk Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, 26 October 2014 3:01 PM To: ozDotNet You guys should check out IkeaHacks .. basically combine Ikea furniture and you end up with some gnarly looking things like standup desks etc :) --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM, wrote: Just finished making this - it’s not pretty but cost < $200 total to make… Typing this email while standing up - seems stable with only very slight almost imperceptible wobble…. Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ ===
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I’ve been using a Varidesk Pro Plus from Varidesk (http://au.varidesk.com/) for a while and find myself alternating between standing and sitting every hour or so. It’s $440 plus delivery but it can be placed on most existing desks to convert it into a sit/stand desk pretty easily. I have dual 26” monitors on it and raising/lowering the desk is really easy. Cheers Anthony Borton Senior ALM Trainer/Consultant Visual Studio ALM MVP Enhance ALM Pty Ltd From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Richards Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 7:49 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Hacked together standing desk I had been considering a standing desk on the condition that I also have a sitting desk. I'm not convinced standing for 8-9 hours a day would be a good idea. The option I was considering (but haven't tried to implement yet) was to setup a standard sitting desk but then add an additional monitor, keyboard and mouse as a standing desk next to the sitting desk. You then have a KVM so you can switch between your standing and sitting monitors. This means switching between sitting and standing is as simple as pressing a button and standing up (or sitting down). It doesn't require a fancy or modified desk and if you happen to have a spare monitor/mouse/keyboard you only need a standard cheap standing desk and kvm. This setup would even work with multiple monitors, especially since you don't need to switch all the monitors. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 26 October 2014 22:44, mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yeah I did look at some of those, there was a really cool adjustable one, but Perth Ikea never had the bits in stock, also this AU kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2052694050/the-bystander-wooden-standing-desk Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Scott Barnes<mailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 26 October 2014 3:01 PM To: ozDotNet<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> You guys should check out IkeaHacks .. basically combine Ikea furniture and you end up with some gnarly looking things like standup desks etc :) --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM, mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote: Just finished making this - it’s not pretty but cost < $200 total to make… Typing this email while standing up - seems stable with only very slight almost imperceptible wobble…. Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ ===
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Thanks for that Anthony - looks pretty sweet! Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Anthony Borton Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 8:48 AM To: ozDotNet I’ve been using a Varidesk Pro Plus from Varidesk (http://au.varidesk.com/) for a while and find myself alternating between standing and sitting every hour or so. It’s $440 plus delivery but it can be placed on most existing desks to convert it into a sit/stand desk pretty easily. I have dual 26” monitors on it and raising/lowering the desk is really easy. Cheers Anthony Borton Senior ALM Trainer/Consultant Visual Studio ALM MVP Enhance ALM Pty Ltd From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Richards Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 7:49 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Hacked together standing desk I had been considering a standing desk on the condition that I also have a sitting desk. I'm not convinced standing for 8-9 hours a day would be a good idea. The option I was considering (but haven't tried to implement yet) was to setup a standard sitting desk but then add an additional monitor, keyboard and mouse as a standing desk next to the sitting desk. You then have a KVM so you can switch between your standing and sitting monitors. This means switching between sitting and standing is as simple as pressing a button and standing up (or sitting down). It doesn't require a fancy or modified desk and if you happen to have a spare monitor/mouse/keyboard you only need a standard cheap standing desk and kvm. This setup would even work with multiple monitors, especially since you don't need to switch all the monitors. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 26 October 2014 22:44, wrote: Yeah I did look at some of those, there was a really cool adjustable one, but Perth Ikea never had the bits in stock, also this AU kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2052694050/the-bystander-wooden-standing-desk Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, 26 October 2014 3:01 PM To: ozDotNet You guys should check out IkeaHacks .. basically combine Ikea furniture and you end up with some gnarly looking things like standup desks etc :) --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM, wrote: Just finished making this - it’s not pretty but cost < $200 total to make… Typing this email while standing up - seems stable with only very slight almost imperceptible wobble…. Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ ===
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I did a bit of research into standing desks, motivated by the health concerns that Jason mentions (which are pretty worrying actually). TL;DR - stability is everything. I ended up just getting a fixed height bar table for home (105cm height), which is fine given I only use it during the evenings, but David is absolutely right that you can't really do that all day, and most of us don't have the space for two different height tables (let alone the pain of moving your kit) If you've got the money, the electric variable height desks are definitely the go. I went and had a play with a few at InnerSpace here in Perth, surprisingly stable to lean on etc… They're about $2k mind, but because they make the transition easy, the idea is you are more likely to stand when you feel like it etc … Gas lift ones are about the same price, so I'm not sure why you'd bother. If that's too much, there are a number of products similar to what Anthony links to that convert an existing desk into a sit/stand desk by putting the monitor and keyboard on a big arm or riser. They're definitely an option on a budget, but they do have some clear disadvantages, not least lack of desk space when elevated, and you can't really lean your elbows on them. You'd also want to be really sure the one you went with was stable, nothing worse than the surface wobbling around whilst you're typing on it. Stacking furniture is definitely an option, provided your base table is stable, and you can get your legs / feet under it - your torso needs to touch the table, so your feet need to be able to go under. ie no shelving units with a fixed base! Jason's could probably benefit from a cross-bar at the back for additional rigidity. Finally, one really cheep way of making a difference in your office environment is just by encouraging stand-up meetings, and I don't just mean the morning standup. A high table in a meeting room combined with stools enables meeting participants to sit or stand and still be at the same eye height, and if you're standing anyway, there's less of a barrier to grab the pen and hit the whiteboard. I try and schedule all my meetings around the availability of said room. If you're thinking of proposing changes to your boss, it's a much sell to the boss than refitting an entire floor. I'll dig out some other links to the health stuff another day. It's worrying stuff. Cheers, From: osjasonrobe...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:51 AM To: ozDotNet Thanks for that Anthony - looks pretty sweet! Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Anthony Borton Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 8:48 AM To: ozDotNet I’ve been using a Varidesk Pro Plus from Varidesk (http://au.varidesk.com/) for a while and find myself alternating between standing and sitting every hour or so. It’s $440 plus delivery but it can be placed on most existing desks to convert it into a sit/stand desk pretty easily. I have dual 26” monitors on it and raising/lowering the desk is really easy. Cheers Anthony Borton Senior ALM Trainer/Consultant Visual Studio ALM MVP Enhance ALM Pty Ltd From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Richards Sent: Monday, 27 October 2014 7:49 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Hacked together standing desk I had been considering a standing desk on the condition that I also have a sitting desk. I'm not convinced standing for 8-9 hours a day would be a good idea. The option I was considering (but haven't tried to implement yet) was to setup a standard sitting desk but then add an additional monitor, keyboard and mouse as a standing desk next to the sitting desk. You then have a KVM so you can switch between your standing and sitting monitors. This means switching between sitting and standing is as simple as pressing a button and standing up (or sitting down). It doesn't require a fancy or modified desk and if you happen to have a spare monitor/mouse/keyboard you only need a standard cheap standing desk and kvm. This setup would even work with multiple monitors, especially since you don't need to switch all the monitors. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 26 October 2014 22:44, wrote: Yeah I did look at some of those, there was a really cool adjustable one, but Perth Ikea never had the bits in stock, also this AU kickstarter:
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Is it a coincidence that my November 2014 issue of Scientific American just arrived with dense article (pp 19-20) titled *Killer Chairs*? Author James Levine's sub-title text says "Standing more, even at a desk job, could lower risk for obesity, illness and death, studies suggest". However, the article discusses a lot of variables in the research which I worry might be ignored and the simplified result will be turned into a bit of a fad that is of particular appeal to office workers like us. Even worse, it might result in overreactions where people start standing for 8 hours a day out of fear, causing a new set of health problems. I also don't want to wind-up fat, ill and dead, so if my chair is a killer, I want to know for sure! -- *Greg K* P.S. The article seems to be behind pay-walls everywhere. On 27 October 2014 18:53, wrote: > I did a bit of research into standing desks, motivated by the health > concerns that Jason mentions (which are pretty worrying actually). > > TL;DR - stability is everything. > > I ended up just getting a fixed height bar table for home (105cm height), > which is fine given I only use it during the evenings, but David is > absolutely right that you can't really do that all day, and most of us > don't have the space for two different height tables (let alone the pain of > moving your kit) > > If you've got the money, the electric variable height desks are definitely > the go. I went and had a play with a few at InnerSpace here in Perth, > surprisingly stable to lean on etc… They're about $2k mind, but because > they make the transition easy, the idea is you are more likely to stand > when you feel like it etc … Gas lift ones are about the same price, so I'm > not sure why you'd bother. > > If that's too much, there are a number of products similar to what Anthony > links to that convert an existing desk into a sit/stand desk by putting the > monitor and keyboard on a big arm or riser. They're definitely an option on > a budget, but they do have some clear disadvantages, not least lack of desk > space when elevated, and you can't really lean your elbows on them. You'd > also want to be really sure the one you went with was stable, nothing worse > than the surface wobbling around whilst you're typing on it. > > Stacking furniture is definitely an option, provided your base table is > stable, and you can get your legs / feet under it - your torso needs to > touch the table, so your feet need to be able to go under. ie no shelving > units with a fixed base! Jason's could probably benefit from a cross-bar at > the back for additional rigidity. > > Finally, one really cheep way of making a difference in your office > environment is just by encouraging stand-up meetings, and I don't just mean > the morning standup. A high table in a meeting room combined with stools > enables meeting participants to sit or stand and still be at the same eye > height, and if you're standing anyway, there's less of a barrier to grab > the pen and hit the whiteboard. I try and schedule all my meetings around > the availability of said room. If you're thinking of proposing changes to > your boss, it's a much sell to the boss than refitting an entire floor. > > I'll dig out some other links to the health stuff another day. It's > worrying stuff. > > Cheers, > > *From:* osjasonrobe...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 9:51 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > > Thanks for that Anthony - looks pretty sweet! > > Jason Roberts > Journeyman Software Developer > > Twitter: @robertsjason > Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com > Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts > > === > I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ > === > > *From:* Anthony Borton > *Sent:* Monday, 27 October 2014 8:48 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > > I’ve been using a Varidesk Pro Plus from Varidesk ( > http://au.varidesk.com/) for a while and find myself alternating between > standing and sitting every hour or so. It’s $440 plus delivery but it can > be placed on most existing desks to convert it into a sit/stand desk pretty > easily. I have dual 26” monitors on it and raising/lowering the desk is > really easy. > > > > Cheers > > > > Anthony Borton > > Senior ALM Trainer/Consultant > > Visual Studio ALM MVP > > Enhance ALM Pty Ltd > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Richards > *Sent:* Monday, 27 October 2014 7:49 AM > *To:* ozDotN
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I remember this topic being all the rage years ago. I tried standing up, sitting on a pilates ball, kneel chairs and probably a couple of other fads. If you have ever worked at a trade show, you know how tiring it is to stand up all day, you must have a good isolation mat and a chance to sit as well. This guy at http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/CUESitStand.html <http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/CUESitStand.html> I think is right on the button - basically get up and move regularly, and for me, getting a good chair and sitting properly is another good thing to do. Worried about getting the middle age spread early, exercising in the morning, at lunch and after work - even a simple brisk walk along with keeping away from soft drinks, cakes and pizza does the trick. - Stuart On 27 October 2014 18:53, wrote: > I did a bit of research into standing desks, motivated by the health > concerns that Jason mentions (which are pretty worrying actually). > > TL;DR - stability is everything. > > I ended up just getting a fixed height bar table for home (105cm height), > which is fine given I only use it during the evenings, but David is > absolutely right that you can't really do that all day, and most of us > don't have the space for two different height tables (let alone the pain of > moving your kit) > > If you've got the money, the electric variable height desks are definitely > the go. I went and had a play with a few at InnerSpace here in Perth, > surprisingly stable to lean on etc… They're about $2k mind, but because > they make the transition easy, the idea is you are more likely to stand > when you feel like it etc … Gas lift ones are about the same price, so I'm > not sure why you'd bother. > > If that's too much, there are a number of products similar to what Anthony > links to that convert an existing desk into a sit/stand desk by putting the > monitor and keyboard on a big arm or riser. They're definitely an option on > a budget, but they do have some clear disadvantages, not least lack of desk > space when elevated, and you can't really lean your elbows on them. You'd > also want to be really sure the one you went with was stable, nothing worse > than the surface wobbling around whilst you're typing on it. > > Stacking furniture is definitely an option, provided your base table is > stable, and you can get your legs / feet under it - your torso needs to > touch the table, so your feet need to be able to go under. ie no shelving > units with a fixed base! Jason's could probably benefit from a cross-bar at > the back for additional rigidity. > > Finally, one really cheep way of making a difference in your office > environment is just by encouraging stand-up meetings, and I don't just mean > the morning standup. A high table in a meeting room combined with stools > enables meeting participants to sit or stand and still be at the same eye > height, and if you're standing anyway, there's less of a barrier to grab > the pen and hit the whiteboard. I try and schedule all my meetings around > the availability of said room. If you're thinking of proposing changes to > your boss, it's a much sell to the boss than refitting an entire floor. > > I'll dig out some other links to the health stuff another day. It's > worrying stuff. > > Cheers, > > *From:* osjasonrobe...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 9:51 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > > Thanks for that Anthony - looks pretty sweet! > > Jason Roberts > Journeyman Software Developer > > Twitter: @robertsjason > Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com > Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts > > === > I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ > === > > *From:* Anthony Borton > *Sent:* Monday, 27 October 2014 8:48 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > > I’ve been using a Varidesk Pro Plus from Varidesk ( > http://au.varidesk.com/) for a while and find myself alternating between > standing and sitting every hour or so. It’s $440 plus delivery but it can > be placed on most existing desks to convert it into a sit/stand desk pretty > easily. I have dual 26” monitors on it and raising/lowering the desk is > really easy. > > > > Cheers > > > > Anthony Borton > > Senior ALM Trainer/Consultant > > Visual Studio ALM MVP > > Enhance ALM Pty Ltd > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Richards > *Sent:* Monday, 27 October 2014 7:49 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: Hacked together stand
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A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but your hips, knees and feet may start hurting. Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better. My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello ($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: > Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… >> > > Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that > there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea > sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- *Greg > K* >
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Sitting on a fit-ball? It works for me for a while, but not all day. I suspect it might, if you worked up to it gradually. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Bec Carter wrote: > A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to > alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts > of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but > your hips, knees and feet may start hurting. > Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better. > My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello > ($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: > >> Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… >>> >> >> Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that >> there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea >> sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- *Greg >> K* >> > > -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
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Cool, thanks Bec 😊 I’m building up slowly, yesterday I did a total of 2 hours standing (not all in one go) Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Bec Carter Sent: Friday, 31 October 2014 8:02 AM To: ozDotNet A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but your hips, knees and feet may start hurting. Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better. My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello ($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- Greg K
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Personally, I think it's great that people are looking after themselves. I don't really find it practical to have a stand up station mainly due to a shortage of space (plus multi monitor setup). My way of looking after myself (I had a bad desk/chair set up some years ago and ended up with wrist problems) is to do stretching, some wrist exercises/stretches (which physio showed me when I had treatment for wrist strain) and most importantly regular breaks. I drink lots of water, which is also a good thing (keep hydrated!) which promotes regular trips to the toilet. :) This enforces regular breaks. You should not be hammering away at your keyboard for hours and hours without a break. The thing I saw on breaks should be five minutes in every hour. You can get software that interrupts your session but I don't like the idea of that, you know interruptions disrupt your coding. What works for me is the forced loo breaks. Without going too deep (i'll spare you) get a warning (ie its not sudden) and you definitely can't ignore it! It's funny but it really works. It does take a while to learn how much you need to drink for it to work. You could time when you drink water (and how much) so that you can get the number of breaks you want/need. There would be other variables such as weather/temperature and how dehydrated you are. Funny but true story. :) Even if it is Friday. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:13 AM, wrote: > Cool, thanks Bec 😊 I’m building up slowly, yesterday I did a total of 2 > hours standing (not all in one go) > > Jason Roberts > Journeyman Software Developer > > Twitter: @robertsjason > Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com > Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts > > === > I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ > === > > *From:* Bec Carter > *Sent:* Friday, 31 October 2014 8:02 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > > A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to > alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts > of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but > your hips, knees and feet may start hurting. > Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better. > My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello > ($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: > >> Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… >>> >> >> Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that >> there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea >> sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- *Greg >> K* >> > >
Re: Hacked together standing desk
Haha - interesting technique 😊 … Apparantly even if you’re active (gym, running, etc ) after work - this doesn’t negate the damage that sitting down for long periods of time does… I’m assuming more research will take place in this area… Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Stephen Price Sent: Friday, 31 October 2014 11:03 AM To: ozDotNet Personally, I think it's great that people are looking after themselves. I don't really find it practical to have a stand up station mainly due to a shortage of space (plus multi monitor setup). My way of looking after myself (I had a bad desk/chair set up some years ago and ended up with wrist problems) is to do stretching, some wrist exercises/stretches (which physio showed me when I had treatment for wrist strain) and most importantly regular breaks. I drink lots of water, which is also a good thing (keep hydrated!) which promotes regular trips to the toilet. :) This enforces regular breaks. You should not be hammering away at your keyboard for hours and hours without a break. The thing I saw on breaks should be five minutes in every hour. You can get software that interrupts your session but I don't like the idea of that, you know interruptions disrupt your coding. What works for me is the forced loo breaks. Without going too deep (i'll spare you) get a warning (ie its not sudden) and you definitely can't ignore it! It's funny but it really works. It does take a while to learn how much you need to drink for it to work. You could time when you drink water (and how much) so that you can get the number of breaks you want/need. There would be other variables such as weather/temperature and how dehydrated you are. Funny but true story. :) Even if it is Friday. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:13 AM, wrote: Cool, thanks Bec 😊 I’m building up slowly, yesterday I did a total of 2 hours standing (not all in one go) Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts === I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ === From: Bec Carter Sent: Friday, 31 October 2014 8:02 AM To: ozDotNet A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but your hips, knees and feet may start hurting. Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better. My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello ($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- Greg K
Re: Hacked together standing desk
For sure- Im very active and used to run before work and hit a class at the gym at lunch times and still had problems. After a few months doing the stan/sit combo my hip and back issues went away. Stretches are good too like Stephen said. Corrective stretches that is, not any old stretch that can actually do more damage than good. Wish they taught us better about our bodies at school :( On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 2:33 PM, wrote: > Haha - interesting technique 😊 … > > Apparantly even if you’re active (gym, running, etc ) after work - this > doesn’t negate the damage that sitting down for long periods of time does… > I’m assuming more research will take place in this area… > > Jason Roberts > Journeyman Software Developer > > Twitter: @robertsjason > Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com > Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts > > === > I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ > === > > *From:* Stephen Price > *Sent:* Friday, 31 October 2014 11:03 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > > Personally, I think it's great that people are looking after themselves. > I don't really find it practical to have a stand up station mainly due to > a shortage of space (plus multi monitor setup). My way of looking after > myself (I had a bad desk/chair set up some years ago and ended up with > wrist problems) is to do stretching, some wrist exercises/stretches (which > physio showed me when I had treatment for wrist strain) and most > importantly regular breaks. > I drink lots of water, which is also a good thing (keep hydrated!) which > promotes regular trips to the toilet. :) > This enforces regular breaks. You should not be hammering away at your > keyboard for hours and hours without a break. The thing I saw on breaks > should be five minutes in every hour. You can get software that interrupts > your session but I don't like the idea of that, you know interruptions > disrupt your coding. What works for me is the forced loo breaks. Without > going too deep (i'll spare you) get a warning (ie its not sudden) and you > definitely can't ignore it! It's funny but it really works. It does take a > while to learn how much you need to drink for it to work. You could time > when you drink water (and how much) so that you can get the number of > breaks you want/need. There would be other variables such as > weather/temperature and how dehydrated you are. > Funny but true story. :) > Even if it is Friday. > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:13 AM, wrote: > >> Cool, thanks Bec 😊 I’m building up slowly, yesterday I did a total of >> 2 hours standing (not all in one go) >> >> Jason Roberts >> Journeyman Software Developer >> >> Twitter: @robertsjason >> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com >> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts >> >> === >> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/ >> === >> >> *From:* Bec Carter >> *Sent:* Friday, 31 October 2014 8:02 AM >> *To:* ozDotNet >> >> A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to >> alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts >> of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but >> your hips, knees and feet may start hurting. >> Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better. >> My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello >> ($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing >> >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: >> >>> Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up… >>> >>> Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that >>> there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea >>> sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- *Greg >>> K* >>> >> >> >
