Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
3.1 with the best of everything in it. The only thing I bought that wasn't max'd out was 16gb instead of 32. On Feb 23, 2012 4:49 PM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.comwrote: Dave, what did that cost and how heavy is it? ~$4500 RRP, I paid $2700.01 inc GST. 2.79KG it says on the web site but that is 'starting from' - could be without HDD or battery. I'll put it on the bathroom scales tonight and post the actual weight for you. It is damned fast the AMD GPU is great (can drive up to 6 displays with a bit of mucking around). It has no problems driving 1 x 2560 x 1440 display and 2 x 1920 x 1080 displays on my desk in the office. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
Laptops are like phones (and women, come to think of it). There's always a better one available in less than six months. You want to upgrade it in less than six months. There's never a perfect system specs, IF ONLY you could take those specs from that laptop and combine with the specs from that other laptop, and make it weigh like that thin ultra portable laptop specs you've been dreaming about... And on top of that, figure out what to do with the other three laptops you have from previous upgrades... I forgot to mention the specs of your Desktop out perform your laptop for half the price... Oh, and after acquiring said perfect laptop (or woman), David posts his specs of his latest laptop (or woman) and puts yours to shame. Sends you crying off into lurksville... (bastard) What a problem to have... :) On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.comwrote: Dave, what did that cost and how heavy is it? ~$4500 RRP, I paid $2700.01 inc GST. 2.79KG it says on the web site but that is 'starting from' - could be without HDD or battery. I'll put it on the bathroom scales tonight and post the actual weight for you. It is damned fast the AMD GPU is great (can drive up to 6 displays with a bit of mucking around). It has no problems driving 1 x 2560 x 1440 display and 2 x 1920 x 1080 displays on my desk in the office. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 4:46 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM Laptops are like phones (and women, come to think of it). There's always a better one available in less than six months. You want to upgrade it in less than six months. There's never a perfect system specs, IF ONLY you could take those specs from that laptop and combine with the specs from that other laptop, and make it weigh like that thin ultra portable laptop specs you've been dreaming about... Seriously: http://www.sony.com.au/product/vpcz227gg/specs - 1.12kg
Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 4:46 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM ** ** Laptops are like phones (and women, come to think of it). There's always a better one available in less than six months. You want to upgrade it in less than six months. There's never a perfect system specs, IF ONLY you could take those specs from that laptop and combine with the specs from that other laptop, and make it weigh like that thin ultra portable laptop specs you've been dreaming about... ** ** Seriously: http://www.sony.com.au/product/vpcz227gg/specs - 1.12kg To follow on from Stephen's analogy, she is a bit doey, can't draw without her louis vuitton luggage in tow, and isn't really interested in resolution of matters, and is probably high maintenance. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
Thanks guys, He already has the laptop. Trying to resolve whether to set it up with Windows server 2008 R2 or just go for Windows 7. PG Peter Griffith CP http://pgriffith.wordpress.com http://pgriffith.wordpress.com PH: 0408 832 891 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:30 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 4:46 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM Laptops are like phones (and women, come to think of it). There's always a better one available in less than six months. You want to upgrade it in less than six months. There's never a perfect system specs, IF ONLY you could take those specs from that laptop and combine with the specs from that other laptop, and make it weigh like that thin ultra portable laptop specs you've been dreaming about... Seriously: http://www.sony.com.au/product/vpcz227gg/specs - 1.12kg To follow on from Stephen's analogy, she is a bit doey, can't draw without her louis vuitton luggage in tow, and isn't really interested in resolution of matters, and is probably high maintenance. -- David Connors | mailto:da...@codify.com da...@codify.com | http://www.codify.com www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
I use win 7 x64 with VMWare. Put the server OS'es in VMs |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Peter Griffith |Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:56 AM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM | |Thanks guys, | | He already has the laptop. | | | | Trying to resolve whether to set it up with Windows server 2008 R2 or |just go for Windows 7. | | | |PG | | | |Peter Griffith CP | |http://pgriffith.wordpress.com http://pgriffith.wordpress.com | |PH: 0408 832 891 | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors |Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:30 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM | | | |On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: | | | |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price |Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 4:46 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM | | | |Laptops are like phones (and women, come to think of it). There's always a better |one available in less than six months. You want to upgrade it in less than six |months. There's never a perfect system specs, IF ONLY you could take those |specs from that laptop and combine with the specs from that other laptop, and |make it weigh like that thin ultra portable laptop specs you've been dreaming |about... | | | |Seriously: http://www.sony.com.au/product/vpcz227gg/specs - 1.12kg | | |To follow on from Stephen's analogy, she is a bit doey, can't draw without her |louis vuitton luggage in tow, and isn't really interested in resolution of matters, |and is probably high maintenance. | | | | |-- | |David Connors | da...@codify.com mailto:da...@codify.com | |www.codify.com http://www.codify.com | |Codify Pty Ltd |Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 |363 |V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors |https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors |Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact |https://www.codify.com/contact
RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
Nice :) I've got win 8 on the other drive (actually a boot to .vhd), but I ain't got no multi-touch on my Dell XPS 17 (not sure I'd want to be cleaning that many finger prints of that size screen ;) ). I do like having multiple SSD's : no need for external drives for VM's. |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Denny |Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 9:22 AM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM | |I'm currently using Windows 8, with Hyper-V. I've got a 8GB Lenovo X220T, and I |use an external USB3 512GB SSD to run my VMs. | |Mitch Denny |Readify | Chief Technology Officer |M: +61 414 610 141 | E: mitch.de...@readify.net | W: http://www.readify.net | | | |-Original Message- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy |Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 9:20 AM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM | |I use win 7 x64 with VMWare. Put the server OS'es in VMs | ||-Original Message- ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Peter Griffith ||Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:56 AM ||To: 'ozDotNet' ||Subject: RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM || ||Thanks guys, || || He already has the laptop. || || || || Trying to resolve whether to set it up with Windows ||server 2008 R2 or just go for Windows 7. || || || ||PG || || || ||Peter Griffith CP || ||http://pgriffith.wordpress.com http://pgriffith.wordpress.com || ||PH: 0408 832 891 || || || ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors ||Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:30 PM ||To: ozDotNet ||Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM || || || ||On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com |wrote: || || || ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price ||Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 4:46 PM ||To: ozDotNet ||Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM || || || ||Laptops are like phones (and women, come to think of it). There's ||always a better one available in less than six months. You want to ||upgrade it in less than six months. There's never a perfect system ||specs, IF ONLY you could take those specs from that laptop and combine ||with the specs from that other laptop, and make it weigh like that thin ||ultra portable laptop specs you've been dreaming about... || || || ||Seriously: http://www.sony.com.au/product/vpcz227gg/specs - 1.12kg || || ||To follow on from Stephen's analogy, she is a bit doey, can't draw ||without her louis vuitton luggage in tow, and isn't really interested ||in resolution of matters, and is probably high maintenance. || || || || ||-- || ||David Connors | da...@codify.com mailto:da...@codify.com | ||www.codify.com http://www.codify.com || ||Codify Pty Ltd ||Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 ||417 189 ||363 ||V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors ||https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors ||Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact ||https://www.codify.com/contact | |
RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
Lol. To be fair: I have a standard Win7 on it, so maintenance is the same as other Win7 machines. For devs I’d say that resolution usually is important, and the onboard graphics work just fine for VS.NET etc. If you want to play games, then you need engage the ATI GPU. To save 2kg in weight, I think it’s worth it Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 6:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 4:46 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM Laptops are like phones (and women, come to think of it). There's always a better one available in less than six months. You want to upgrade it in less than six months. There's never a perfect system specs, IF ONLY you could take those specs from that laptop and combine with the specs from that other laptop, and make it weigh like that thin ultra portable laptop specs you've been dreaming about... Seriously: http://www.sony.com.au/product/vpcz227gg/specs - 1.12kg To follow on from Stephen's analogy, she is a bit doey, can't draw without her louis vuitton luggage in tow, and isn't really interested in resolution of matters, and is probably high maintenance.
RE: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
Hyper-V won't run on Windows 7 VPC only supports 32bit VMs Installing Hyper-V role disables sleep/hibernate on the host PC (you can get this functionality back by setting a Hyper-V service to start manually, but once it's started, you can only shutdown) You have two routes to go down: a) Lightweight laptop: something like a Sony Z2 series. Limited to 8GB of RAM, but has SSD (up to 1TB I believe) and 1080i screen b) Heavier laptops: all the major vendors have workstation class machines. Usually around the 3kg mark, but will go up 16GB of RAM with common 4GB SoDIMMS. Either way, make sure you get SSDs. I use the Sony as I'm sick of carrying around 3-4kg of laptop. I have 256GB of SSD internally, and another 512GB externally via USB3. That's enough to run 4-5 VMs concurrently without issue. I use VMWare Workstation (as it supports 64bit guests) on the laptop. Back at home, I have HP Proliant Microservers for my lab, and they run Hyper-V Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Peter Griffith Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 2:16 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM What's works best for software development? Windows 2008 R2 and Hyper-v for VMs Windows 2008 R2 and VPC for VMs Windows 7 and Hyper-v for VMs Windows 7 and VPC for VMs Multi-boot? PG Peter Griffith CP http://adnugcom.wordpress.com PH: 0408 832 891
Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.comwrote: To be completely honest, unless you are doing funky things with sharepoint, I find maintaining multiple VMs just unwieldy. I have everything backed up in the cloud (dropbox, bitbucket, etc.) It is going to get a lot better with Win8. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
Dave, what did that cost and how heavy is it? On 23/02/2012 2:30 PM, David Connors wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Peter Griffith pgrif...@senet.com.au mailto:pgrif...@senet.com.au wrote: What’s works best for software development? Windows 2008 R2 and Hyper-v for VMs Windows 2008 R2 and VPC for VMs Windows 7 and Hyper-v for VMs Windows 7 and VPC for VMs Multi-boot? Just did my laptop refresh and bought a Dell Precision M4600. I am extremely happy with it. 16 GB (can go up to 32GB) OCZ Max IOPS SSD 256GB (550MB/sec sustained disk IO) Quad Core i7 Fast as hell. Also, ring your Dell account rep and get them to put in an AMD GPU instead of the nVidia which is the default discrete GPU part option. Windows Experience Index below - about the best features you'll see for a laptop (without going into customer meetings and looking like a complete douche by way of owning an Alienware machine) Component Details SubscoreBase score Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz 7.5 6.9 Determined by lowest subscore Memory (RAM)16.0 GB 7.9 GraphicsAMD (ATI) FirePro M5950 (FireGL) Mobility Pro Graphics 6.9 Gaming graphics 8938 MB Total available graphics memory 6.9 Primary hard disk 75GB Free (223GB Total) 7.9 Windows 7 Ultimate -- *David Connors*| da...@codify.com mailto:da...@codify.com| www.codify.com http://www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
Re: New laptop for developer, has 16Gb RAM
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.comwrote: Dave, what did that cost and how heavy is it? ~$4500 RRP, I paid $2700.01 inc GST. 2.79KG it says on the web site but that is 'starting from' - could be without HDD or battery. I'll put it on the bathroom scales tonight and post the actual weight for you. It is damned fast the AMD GPU is great (can drive up to 6 displays with a bit of mucking around). It has no problems driving 1 x 2560 x 1440 display and 2 x 1920 x 1080 displays on my desk in the office. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
