RE: usercontrol caching

[Anthony]

Thanks Paul..appreciate your info J

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Glavich
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 8:33 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: usercontrol caching

 

You can actually use standard ASP.Net tracing (via the trace.axd URL) to see
the difference in overall page processing times AND you will be able to see
references to the static content in the control tree as part of the trace
response.

 

Tools like ANTS Profiler from red gate (http://bit.ly/asuuSh ) will show you
the real value of performance gain and the Visual Studio perf tools will
also do this.

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:57 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: usercontrol caching

 

Thanks Paul..that does answer my question?  Sugest any tool to use to see
the performance difference when i implement caching.  Would be interesting
to measure the difference in performance!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Glavich
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:31 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: usercontrol caching

 

Not sure I fully understand your question but, while the cache condition is
satisfied, none of your code around that user control code behind will be
executed (which is exactly why the cache is a good thing from  a perf
perspective)

 

ASP.Net takes the HTML result of that user control and stores it *verbatim*
while the cache condition is satisfied. While its being served from cache,
ASP.Net will take that output and simply push it back as the response
without executing any server side code (as far as that control is
concerned).

 

The answer (if I understand what you are asking) as to reduce the cache time
or Vary the cache instance by a param other than UserId.

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 5:17 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: usercontrol caching

 

I have a user control  which is set to output cache using the following
command..

 

<%@ OutputCache Duration="1000" VaryByParam="UserId" %>

 

When the usercontrol is being cached the usercontrol is no longer availble
so my code where ... usercontrol.userid=89   fails!

 

Do i just wrap this code in 

 

If usercontrol isnot nothing then

usercontrol.userid=89   

End if

 

Or is there a 'proper' way to do this?

 

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regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)

Is your website being IntelliXperienced?

 

 

RE: usercontrol caching

[Paul Glavich]

You can actually use standard ASP.Net tracing (via the trace.axd URL) to see
the difference in overall page processing times AND you will be able to see
references to the static content in the control tree as part of the trace
response.

 

Tools like ANTS Profiler from red gate (http://bit.ly/asuuSh ) will show you
the real value of performance gain and the Visual Studio perf tools will
also do this.

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:57 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: usercontrol caching

 

Thanks Paul..that does answer my question?  Sugest any tool to use to see
the performance difference when i implement caching.  Would be interesting
to measure the difference in performance!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Glavich
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:31 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: usercontrol caching

 

Not sure I fully understand your question but, while the cache condition is
satisfied, none of your code around that user control code behind will be
executed (which is exactly why the cache is a good thing from  a perf
perspective)

 

ASP.Net takes the HTML result of that user control and stores it *verbatim*
while the cache condition is satisfied. While its being served from cache,
ASP.Net will take that output and simply push it back as the response
without executing any server side code (as far as that control is
concerned).

 

The answer (if I understand what you are asking) as to reduce the cache time
or Vary the cache instance by a param other than UserId.

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 5:17 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: usercontrol caching

 

I have a user control  which is set to output cache using the following
command..

 

<%@ OutputCache Duration="1000" VaryByParam="UserId" %>

 

When the usercontrol is being cached the usercontrol is no longer availble
so my code where ... usercontrol.userid=89   fails!

 

Do i just wrap this code in 

 

If usercontrol isnot nothing then

usercontrol.userid=89   

End if

 

Or is there a 'proper' way to do this?

 

Is your website <http://www.intellixperience.com/signup.aspx>  being
IntelliXperienced?  | www.yougoingmyway.com ?
regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)

Is your website being IntelliXperienced?

 

 

RE: usercontrol caching

[Anthony]

Thanks Jano..exactly what i was looking for!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Jano Petras
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 11:05 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: usercontrol caching

 

Hi Anthony,

Yes, that is the "proper" way - if the user control is available in cache it
will not be instantiated, so you should check for null / nothing.

See
http://authors.aspalliance.com/aspxtreme/webapps/cachingportionsofaspnetpage
.aspx

Cheers,
jano

On 7 September 2010 14:57, Anthony  wrote:

Thanks Paul..that does answer my question?  Sugest any tool to use to see
the performance difference when i implement caching.  Would be interesting
to measure the difference in performance!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Glavich
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:31 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: usercontrol caching

 

Not sure I fully understand your question but, while the cache condition is
satisfied, none of your code around that user control code behind will be
executed (which is exactly why the cache is a good thing from  a perf
perspective)

 

ASP.Net takes the HTML result of that user control and stores it *verbatim*
while the cache condition is satisfied. While its being served from cache,
ASP.Net will take that output and simply push it back as the response
without executing any server side code (as far as that control is
concerned).

 

The answer (if I understand what you are asking) as to reduce the cache time
or Vary the cache instance by a param other than UserId.

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 5:17 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: usercontrol caching

 

I have a user control  which is set to output cache using the following
command..

 

<%@ OutputCache Duration="1000" VaryByParam="UserId" %>

 

When the usercontrol is being cached the usercontrol is no longer availble
so my code where ... usercontrol.userid=89   fails!

 

Do i just wrap this code in 

 

If usercontrol isnot nothing then

usercontrol.userid=89   

End if

 

Or is there a 'proper' way to do this?

 

Is your <http://www.intellixperience.com/signup.aspx>  website being
IntelliXperienced?  | www.yougoingmyway.com ?
regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)

Is your website being IntelliXperienced?

 

 

 

Re: usercontrol caching

[Jano Petras]

Hi Anthony,

Yes, that is the "proper" way - if the user control is available in cache it
will not be instantiated, so you should check for null / nothing.

See
http://authors.aspalliance.com/aspxtreme/webapps/cachingportionsofaspnetpage.aspx

Cheers,
jano

On 7 September 2010 14:57, Anthony  wrote:

>  Thanks Paul..that does answer my question?  Sugest any tool to use to see
> the performance difference when i implement caching.  Would be interesting
> to measure the difference in performance!
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Glavich
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:31 PM
> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
> *Subject:* RE: usercontrol caching
>
>
>
> Not sure I fully understand your question but, while the cache condition is
> satisfied, none of your code around that user control code behind will be
> executed (which is exactly why the cache is a good thing from  a perf
> perspective)
>
>
>
> ASP.Net takes the HTML result of that user control and stores it **
> verbatim** while the cache condition is satisfied. While its being served
> from cache, ASP.Net will take that output and simply push it back as the
> response without executing any server side code (as far as that control is
> concerned).
>
>
>
> The answer (if I understand what you are asking) as to reduce the cache
> time or Vary the cache instance by a param other than UserId.
>
>
>
> -  Glav
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Anthony
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 September 2010 5:17 PM
> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
> *Subject:* usercontrol caching
>
>
>
> I have a user control  which is set to output cache using the following
> command..
>
>
>
> <%@ OutputCache Duration="1000" VaryByParam="UserId" %>
>
>
>
> When the usercontrol is being cached the usercontrol is no longer availble
> so my code where ... usercontrol.userid=89   fails!
>
>
>
> Do i just wrap this code in
>
>
>
> If usercontrol isnot nothing then
>
> usercontrol.userid=89
>
> End if
>
>
>
> Or is there a ‘proper’ way to do this?
>
>
>
> Is your website being 
> IntelliXperienced?<http://www.intellixperience.com/signup.aspx>
> | www.yougoingmyway.com ?
> regards
> Anthony (*12QWERNB*)
>
> Is your website being IntelliXperienced?
>
>
>
>
>

RE: usercontrol caching

[Anthony]

Thanks Paul..that does answer my question?  Sugest any tool to use to see
the performance difference when i implement caching.  Would be interesting
to measure the difference in performance!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Glavich
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:31 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: usercontrol caching

 

Not sure I fully understand your question but, while the cache condition is
satisfied, none of your code around that user control code behind will be
executed (which is exactly why the cache is a good thing from  a perf
perspective)

 

ASP.Net takes the HTML result of that user control and stores it *verbatim*
while the cache condition is satisfied. While its being served from cache,
ASP.Net will take that output and simply push it back as the response
without executing any server side code (as far as that control is
concerned).

 

The answer (if I understand what you are asking) as to reduce the cache time
or Vary the cache instance by a param other than UserId.

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 5:17 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: usercontrol caching

 

I have a user control  which is set to output cache using the following
command..

 

<%@ OutputCache Duration="1000" VaryByParam="UserId" %>

 

When the usercontrol is being cached the usercontrol is no longer availble
so my code where ... usercontrol.userid=89   fails!

 

Do i just wrap this code in 

 

If usercontrol isnot nothing then

usercontrol.userid=89   

End if

 

Or is there a 'proper' way to do this?

 

Is your website being <http://www.intellixperience.com/signup.aspx>
IntelliXperienced?  | www.yougoingmyway.com ?
regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)

Is your website being IntelliXperienced?

 

 

RE: usercontrol caching

[Paul Glavich]

Not sure I fully understand your question but, while the cache condition is
satisfied, none of your code around that user control code behind will be
executed (which is exactly why the cache is a good thing from  a perf
perspective)

 

ASP.Net takes the HTML result of that user control and stores it *verbatim*
while the cache condition is satisfied. While its being served from cache,
ASP.Net will take that output and simply push it back as the response
without executing any server side code (as far as that control is
concerned).

 

The answer (if I understand what you are asking) as to reduce the cache time
or Vary the cache instance by a param other than UserId.

 

-  Glav

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2010 5:17 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: usercontrol caching

 

I have a user control  which is set to output cache using the following
command..

 

<%@ OutputCache Duration="1000" VaryByParam="UserId" %>

 

When the usercontrol is being cached the usercontrol is no longer availble
so my code where ... usercontrol.userid=89   fails!

 

Do i just wrap this code in 

 

If usercontrol isnot nothing then

usercontrol.userid=89   

End if

 

Or is there a 'proper' way to do this?

 

Is your website   being
IntelliXperienced?  | www.yougoingmyway.com ?
regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)

Is your website being IntelliXperienced?