Shims

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen Price
Hey all,

Has anyone had a look at Shims yet? The documentation says it required
VS2012 Ultimate. I got all excited when I read about Shims and then my
hopes were dashed. Ultimate? Can't afford that for a sole developer. *sigh*

cheers,
Stephen


RE: Shims

2012-08-20 Thread alg
Yeah, I was bummed when I learned that Fakes required Ultimate. I'd used Moles from MS Research, for working with SharePoint, and was hoping to migrate to Fakes. Even with all the MSDN licenses at the client, they would not have had enough Ultimates to cover the developers and the build machines. They can probably still use Moles, but it looks like a dead end since the site claims the Fakes will replace Moles.It may be a better deal, financially,  to license Telerik JustMocks or Typemock Isolator. Both are nicer to work with than Moles, I can't speak for Fakes.BTW, Moles was the pre-cursor to MS Fakes - see: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/moles/


 Original Message 
Subject: Shims
From: Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
Date: Mon, August 20, 2012 5:09 am
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>

Hey all,Has anyone had a look at Shims yet? The documentation says it required VS2012 Ultimate. I got all excited when I read about Shims and then my hopes were dashed. Ultimate? Can't afford that for a sole developer. *sigh* cheers,Stephen 




Re: Shims

2012-08-20 Thread William Luu
Really? You need Ultimate to use Fakes? That sucks.

We're also using Moles at my workplace.

On 20 August 2012 22:28,  wrote:

> Yeah, I was bummed when I learned that Fakes required Ultimate.
>
> I'd used Moles from MS Research, for working with SharePoint, and was
> hoping to migrate to Fakes. Even with all the MSDN licenses at the client,
> they would not have had enough Ultimates to cover the developers and the
> build machines. They can probably still use Moles, but it looks like a dead
> end since the site claims the Fakes will replace Moles.
>
> It may be a better deal, financially,  to license Telerik JustMocks or
> Typemock Isolator. Both are nicer to work with than Moles, I can't speak
> for Fakes.
>
> BTW, Moles was the pre-cursor to MS Fakes - see:
> http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/moles/
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: Shims
> From: Stephen Price 
> Date: Mon, August 20, 2012 5:09 am
> To: ozDotNet 
>
> Hey all,
>
> Has anyone had a look at Shims yet? The documentation says it required
> VS2012 Ultimate. I got all excited when I read about Shims and then my
> hopes were dashed. Ultimate? Can't afford that for a sole developer. *sigh*
>
> cheers,
> Stephen
>
>


Re: Shims

2012-08-20 Thread William Luu
It was also posted on uservoice.com

http://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio/suggestions/2919309-provide-microsoft-fakes-with-all-visual-studio-edi


On 21 August 2012 10:40, William Luu  wrote:

> Really? You need Ultimate to use Fakes? That sucks.
>
> We're also using Moles at my workplace.
>
>
> On 20 August 2012 22:28,  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I was bummed when I learned that Fakes required Ultimate.
>>
>> I'd used Moles from MS Research, for working with SharePoint, and was
>> hoping to migrate to Fakes. Even with all the MSDN licenses at the client,
>> they would not have had enough Ultimates to cover the developers and the
>> build machines. They can probably still use Moles, but it looks like a dead
>> end since the site claims the Fakes will replace Moles.
>>
>> It may be a better deal, financially,  to license Telerik JustMocks or
>> Typemock Isolator. Both are nicer to work with than Moles, I can't speak
>> for Fakes.
>>
>> BTW, Moles was the pre-cursor to MS Fakes - see:
>> http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/moles/
>>
>>   Original Message 
>> Subject: Shims
>> From: Stephen Price 
>> Date: Mon, August 20, 2012 5:09 am
>> To: ozDotNet 
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Has anyone had a look at Shims yet? The documentation says it required
>> VS2012 Ultimate. I got all excited when I read about Shims and then my
>> hopes were dashed. Ultimate? Can't afford that for a sole developer. *sigh*
>>
>> cheers,
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>