Re: Newborn footprints
I agree 100% Tina - what a worry. We have resisted the tatoos, and at this point only use footprints as a memory for mothers and fathers of stillborn infants. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Newborn footprints In a message dated 30/10/01 8:09:59 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't been able to find much published on the subject of newborn foorprinting for security purposes on our midwifery database. Apart from a couple of anecdotal items from the mid 90s, the only article evaluating its use is: Butz AM, Oski FA, Repke J et al. Newborn identification: compliance with AAP guidelines for perinatal care. Clinical Pediatrics, vol 32, no 2, Feb 1993, pp 111-113. Kathy Levine Infornation Officer MIDIRS 9 Elmdale Road Bristol BS8 1SL England Hi all, I have a question with regards to this baby ID thing. I suppose I'm questioning the need for such 'routine' and stringent 'labelling' of babies in the days of babes 'rooming in' with their mothers where there is a high expectation that mother and babe will stay together and not be separated. I would have thought that this practice was more relevant in the days of routine separation of mother and babe - with babies kept in nurseries and only brought to their mothers for feeds. Please excuse my naivety with regards to institutional procedures and protocols, but why do babies need such comprehensive ID procedures if they are with their mothers ?? Is ALL this 'routine' labelling really a necessity ?? I'm not advocating that babes not be 'labelled' at all - I understand the need for some form of identification linking a particular babe with its mother, however, I suppose I'm questioning the process that some listers here have outlined in their protocols of babe ID as two and even three and four separate procedures - leg bands, arm bands and just in case we'll do footprints and other body labelling (tattoos) as well - ah to be sure, to be sure !!!. If babes are removed from their mothers, eg: Admitted to special care nurseries etc.. etc.. I don't think anyone questions the need for routine ID (perhaps even by footprinting) - But do ALL babes routinely need to be subjected to this practice ?? Who is all this labelling practice protecting ?? I think its important also that we look carefully at what potential messages this practice may send to parents, in addition to the purported anecdotal 'acceptance' by parents of this procedure. If staff wanted to label my babe in this way - leg bands, arm bands AND footprints and temporary tattoos - I think I would start to wonder about the safety of my babe and their potential to get 'lost' !! Does it also not send a message to mothers that we don't trust them to be able to 'know' their own babies ?? Yours in Birth, Tina Pettigrew. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: failed induction
has anyone got a good definiton of a failed induction? How about: The unsuccessful result of our current society's excessive faith in medical technology's ability to mimic the evolutionary wonder of physiological birth. No offence meant ;-) Birthing Beautifully, Jackie Mawson. Convenor of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc. Visit our Website at: http://www.birthrites.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 08 9418 8949 Please note I am not a Professional Healthcare Provider, and all opinions given in this email are not to be taken as medical, or legal, advice. Please seek such advice from the relevant professional service. Email me your postal details for a FREE copy of our quarterly magazine, if you live within Australia - Overseas postage costs are above budget, sorry! Too many Gods; so many creeds, Too many paths that wind and wind, When just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs... -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Ancestor - midwife
Superb story, Tina .Thankyou for sharing it. I understand more where your strength comes from! Best wishes, Liz.24/10/01 0:34:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, back late this afternoon from Adelaide - a flying visit to honour and celebrate the life of my Aunt Yvonne who died last month. As sad as it was the reason for our coming together as family united in our grief at her passing, twas bizarre mending 'broken bridges' and healing 'old wounds' and remembering 'old times' as children growing up and such wonderful times shared. At a family gathering at lunch today I was given a true gift from my Great Aunt and Uncle - a book of our family history dating back to 1852 when my ancestors made the journey from Plymouth in England, on the ship Gloucester to Port Adelaide in South Australia (my mother is a 'crow eater' he he...)- a journey that took some 105 days, and that saw the death of 22 children (all under three years and predominantly btw 10-18 months) from measles and a few from scarlet fever. Five women also gave birth on the epic journey across the seas. It was interesting to read in the ship surgeon's log the distress Re: the deaths of so many children in his care - it was particularly interesting in his notes that he wrote where he acknowledged the following of which the word 'weaned' was underlined ..The measles nearly caused the destruction of every child in the ship..in May we had 43 cases of measles..in June 9 cases. The children were weakened by the illness - they nearly had all been WEANED. My Great Great Great Grandparents were passengers on this morbid trek across the ocean nearly some 150 years ago. What pioneering spirit and endurance against such great adversity and oppression these people faced but never the less successfully overcame. My Great ..G.. G..Grandmother (Mary Ellen Lloyde) gave birth to her first child a daughter (Mary Ellen Lloyde) just one year after their arrival in Australia, and went on to have twelve more children (three still born). They moved to a small settlement, Mintaro, where my families roots (maternal) are deeply embedded and a place I spent many years as child growing up visiting my great grandmother and grandmother. My Grandmother Dot was one of nine home born children all in Mintaro - I've even slept in the bed where they were conceived and birthed, the first some 85 years ago - BIZZARE Most of this precious story I new, but today I learned of something new from my Uncle (my grandmothers brother) on his seeing my midwives hold the future T-Shirt that I was proudly wearing today - that their grandmother, Mary Ellen Lloyde - who came out on that ship from Plymouth - was a wait for it - A MIDWIFE !!! He proudly flicked through the book to the page that states, Mary was mid-wife to many mothers in the Mintaro/Clare district and it is stated that she never lost a patient. Mary Ellen Lloyd, woman, wife, mother of 13, and midwife, went on to live a full and rich life dying at the wondrous age of 96 years. My Uncle was chuffed to think that I, four generations on was aspiring to be 'with woman' in birth as was our 'founding mother' all those many years ago. This discovery today enriches my sense of being 'with woman' and this brief history to my 'being' marks a passing of time and signifies that we 'should honour the past... make the most of the present... and plan well for the future.and to reflect on how much we owe to those who paved the way.' Yours in birth Tina Pettigrew Descendant of Mary Ellen Lloyde Midwife. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
labelling babies
The baby (and any patient/client) 'needs' a band to id them for giving meds, taking blood, returning from being elsewhere eg. baby minded while mum goes to postnatal physio. I have found many mums say before birth they don't want to be separated, but they seem to change their minds! don't want to sleep close to them! In the 4 hospitals I have worked we only footprint the dead babies, and sometimes the sick premies, as part of making memories. Louise RN Midwife IBCLC -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Hyperemesis
Title: Hyperemesis On several occasions in a major tertiary hospital I have been involved in the care of women suffering severe hyperemesis treated effectively with IV prednisone. I have seen at least four cases severe enough to be treated this way. client condition very responsive where all other treatments not helped. I understand this is only a short sharp dosage of prednisone with some oral follow reserved for severe case only. the dosage etc is a doctor thing. but it certainly gave the women I have seen in this condition some relief. NB care with too much maxalon and stemitil too much of those can cause a reaction emergency crisis i have seen this happen when once due to too much over a period of time. good luck hope you can find someone who knows about this management. all the other traditional management as you outlined still applies . ruth
Health dimensions
Below is the email I have sent to this show. I am a midwife and I am very concerned about the increasing demands on public and private health services in the face of reduced spending in the publich health sector. I recognise the ideological stance of the liberal party in terms of health care. My concern is that woman who undertake private care have a much greater chance of caesarean section rates and other interventions (see Rocking the Cradle Senate Inquiry and http://www.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/321/7254/137.pdf). In some Australian private hospitals there is over a 50% caesarian section rate (WHO recommend no greater than 15% intervention rates -Marsden Wagner 1994). This unnecessary and totally avoidable escalation in procedures and therefore health dollars has not been addressed by any government to date. Please ask Mr Wooldridge does he see himself, as Health Minister, being accountable to the healthy low risk women who are put at risk from avoidable major abdominal surgery simply because they are not able to access alternative care providers? Midwifery lead care for low risk women (~80% of women) is supported by the World Health Organisation as being the safest and most cost effective way to provide quality maternity services. Childbirth consumer groups are more than happy to tell him that they want MORE CHOICES! Clinical indicators show no difference between obstetric or midwifery lead care in the care of low risk women (slighlty improved with midwives - see New Zealand statistics) yet the cost, both in fiscal and social terms, to women is vastly different under each model. I want to know who does this system of unnecessary costly intervention serve? Need I ask? It certainly isn't the women of Australia. Also please ask Mr Wooldridge when he thinks it would be a good time to take action (perhaps have lunch with the president of the Australian Nurses Federation) to address the exodus of nurses from the Australian Health Care System. Nurses are walking away because they are exhausted and can no longer be the backbone to a service that has diminishing resources yet increasing patient acuity and throughput. Mr Wooldridge needs to know that Nursing workloads are totally unacceptable. Nursing is on a national shortage of skills list - yet Mr Wooldridge continues to 'pass the buck' on this issue to the state governments. He may not yet realise that this is a major Federal electoral issue for many nurses and their families. Would love to see some of these areas addressed in your show. Warm regards, Jackie Doolan Midwife -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
birth psychology
any one going to the conference in Sydney this weekend I would have loved to be there would like to here about it thanks trish
Re: Re Hyperemesis
A friend of mine had acupuncture - it seemed to work for her. Her first two she suffered badly and with the third someone suggested acupuncture and it helped her a lot. Just a thought. Rhonda. - Original Message - From: cjknight To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re Hyperemesis Dear listers What is current research based evidence for the management of hyperemesis. I am currently caring for a 9/40 gestation G2 P1 for whom the main thrust of treatment seems to fluid replacement. The only thing that settles her protracted episodes of vomiting seems to be IV Maxalon which lasts about 4hrs plus oral pyridoxine 25mg BD. She is eating very small amounts. In her last pregnancy this lasted until 16 weeks. I have expressed concerns for long term vitamin and mineral intake but the GP seems unable to find out about any other treatment modalities. He has spoken to obs people at our tertiary hospital with no luck. Some time ago someone on the list wrote in regard to this suggesting a Blackmores product that is practitioner use only.I lost my references to this when my computer was changed over. If someone has access to this could they let me know what it was. Cheers Jane
acupuncture for hyperemesis
regarding the acupuncture: Im not sure where in Australia your client lives, but if she is open to trying acupuncture the best one in Melbourne is Stephen Clavey. He is a traditional Chinese med gynaecologist and is very highly regarded. If in other areas of Australia you could call his office and ask for a recommendation. Ph (03)9654 7181. Chinese herbs and acupuncture are very effective with 'womens complaints'. As for any therapy you dont want to go to just anyone. love jessica simms -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
birth stories
I have recently uploaded a couple of new birth stories to my website. These are wonderfully poignant accounts written by the mothers of babies Kobi (born at home) and Lois (born in hospital). Joy www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
