Re: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

[Aviva Sheb'a]

Ah, Julie, I'm so glad there are people 
like you to balance out the people like me!
love,
aviva
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From: Julie Clarke 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Info required.


Instead of divorcing 
him, why not see the need for growth within her 
relationship.
hug

Julie 
Clarke
Childbirth 
and Parenting Educator
Transition 
into Parenthood
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Withybrook Pl
Sylvania  NSW  2224
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required.
 

Why doesn't 
she DIVORCE THE SILLY BASTARD! HE wanted the epidural! Whose birth was/is it 
anyway? At the very least, maybe she could read some of our emails and learn a 
lot, so could he. There has to be a class in Sydney -- 
no?

Aviva

- Original Message - 


From: Jim O'Neill 


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Sent: Saturday, 
February 15, 2003 5:06 PM

Subject: 
[ozmidwifery] Info required.

 

Dear 
all,

I am seeking info on where a woman 
having her second baby might go for classes ( or other ) from a friend of 
mine. Traumatic first delivery ...IOL for post dates with Prostin and good 
labour following.  As the story goes the husband who is quite dominant 
became tired of back rubbing and said he wanted an epidural.  Anaesthetist 
arrives to which she says she did not want one, he declines to discuss the 
procedure with her till she says she will have one. Pressure from husband 
and possibly the midwife ( embarrassed to have called the 
anaesthetist ), the woman acquiesces...labour stops..forceps delivery, 
large epis which later breaks down.  They are going to the same Obs 
and plan on birthing at the Sands in Sydney againI know, I know I can hear 
you already but my friend is not sure she can budge this decision herself as 
her opinion might be construed as biased.  Therefore the option to attend a 
good active birth class or discussion group would be good.  


    Anticipating your 
wonderful replies.  Katy.

 

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

[Aviva Sheb'a]

in addition, has she been exposed to 
farming or other chemicals (says she from experience, Agent 
Orange)
aviva
- Original Message - 
From: Julie Clarke 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

Hi AndreaI need some clarification on what you mean by colitis.Do 
you mean wind bowel pain?Then I'd suggest reducing "windy" foods in her 
diet.Perhaps using chamomile tea and peppermint tea and other windy 
helpfulthings like a warm bath, gentle abdominal massage etc.Or is it 
bowel irritation?Could she have an intolerance/allergy to wheat?I think 
the celiac society has a website.Or could the bleeding be from 
piles?Especially if she has varicose veins evident on her legs.If it's 
none of the above but she's bleeding, I'd be concerned.Could there be a 
blood clotting problem?hug  Julie ClarkeChildbirth and 
Parenting EducatorTransition into Parenthood9 Withybrook 
PlSylvania  NSW  2224T. (02) 9544 6441F (02) 9544 
9257M. 0401 265 530email [EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of AndreaRobertsonSent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 4:57 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[ozmidwifery] ColitisCan anyone help me with a problem for one of my 
clients:  28 weeks, 1st baby, suffering from colitis and getting worse 
- main symptom seems tobe rectal bleeding, which she says happens 3 
times a day. Otherwise veryfit (yoga, gym, power walks daily) and 
healthy (very diet conscious). Fromwhat I have read, there is not much 
she can do - drugs are contraindicatedand the pregnancy hormones are 
probably exacerbating the condition, whichwill improve once the baby 
arrives. Any suggestions most welcome!Many 
thanks,Andrea-Andrea RobertsonBirth International * 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

[Lynne Staff]

Depends on whose truth
- Original Message -
From: "leanne wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Info required.


So give HIM the epidural!!
The Sydney Adventist Hospital (previously known as the San) is a very
expensive private hospital on the upper North Shore, for those who hadn't
heard of it. Maybe this couple should be enlightened about the high
intervention rates at private hospitals.
Leanne,
P.S. Bias toward the truth isn't such a bad thing!






>From: "Jim O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [ozmidwifery] Info required.
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:36:45 +1100
>
>Dear all,
>I am seeking info on where a woman having her second baby might go for
>classes ( or other ) from a friend of mine. Traumatic first delivery ...IOL
>for post dates with Prostin and good labour following.  As the story goes
>the husband who is quite dominant became tired of back rubbing and said he
>wanted an epidural.  Anaesthetist arrives to which she says she did not
>want one, he declines to discuss the procedure with her till she says she
>will have one. Pressure from husband and possibly the midwife ( embarrassed
>to have called the anaesthetist ), the woman acquiesces...labour
>stops..forceps delivery, large epis which later breaks down.  They are
>going to the same Obs and plan on birthing at the Sands in Sydney
>againI know, I know I can hear you already but my friend is not
>sure she can budge this decision herself as her opinion might be construed
>as biased.  Therefore the option to attend a good active birth class or
>discussion group would be good.
> Anticipating your wonderful replies.  Katy.


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RE: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

[Julie Clarke]

Instead of divorcing him, why not see the
need for growth within her relationship.

hug



Julie
 Clarke

Childbirth
and Parenting Educator

Transition
into Parenthood

9 Withybrook
Pl

Sylvania  NSW 
2224

T.
(02) 9544 6441

F (02)
9544 9257

M.
0401 265 530

email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 

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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'a
Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003
11:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Info
required.

 



Why doesn't she DIVORCE
THE SILLY BASTARD! HE wanted the epidural! Whose birth was/is it anyway? At the
very least, maybe she could read some of our emails and learn a lot, so could
he. There has to be a class in Sydney -- no?





Aviva





- Original Message - 



From: Jim O'Neill 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





Sent: Saturday,
February 15, 2003 5:06 PM





Subject:
[ozmidwifery] Info required.







 





Dear all,





I am seeking info on where a woman
having her second baby might go for classes ( or other ) from a friend of
mine. Traumatic first delivery ...IOL for post dates with Prostin and good
labour following.  As the story goes the husband who is quite dominant
became tired of back rubbing and said he wanted an epidural.  Anaesthetist
arrives to which she says she did not want one, he declines to discuss the
procedure with her till she says she will have one. Pressure from husband
and possibly the midwife ( embarrassed to have called the
anaesthetist ), the woman acquiesces...labour stops..forceps delivery,
large epis which later breaks down.  They are going to the same Obs
and plan on birthing at the Sands in Sydney againI know, I know I can hear
you already but my friend is not sure she can budge this decision herself
as her opinion might be construed as biased.  Therefore the option to
attend a good active birth class or discussion group would be good.  





    Anticipating your
wonderful replies.  Katy.





 






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RE: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

[Julie Clarke]

Hi Andrea
I need some clarification on what you mean by colitis.
Do you mean wind bowel pain?
Then I'd suggest reducing "windy" foods in her diet.
Perhaps using chamomile tea and peppermint tea and other windy helpful
things like a warm bath, gentle abdominal massage etc.
Or is it bowel irritation?
Could she have an intolerance/allergy to wheat?
I think the celiac society has a website.
Or could the bleeding be from piles?
Especially if she has varicose veins evident on her legs.
If it's none of the above but she's bleeding, I'd be concerned.
Could there be a blood clotting problem?
hug  
Julie Clarke
Childbirth and Parenting Educator
Transition into Parenthood
9 Withybrook Pl
Sylvania  NSW  2224
T. (02) 9544 6441
F (02) 9544 9257
M. 0401 265 530
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrea
Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 4:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

Can anyone help me with a problem for one of my clients:  28 weeks, 1st 
baby, suffering from colitis and getting worse - main symptom seems to
be 
rectal bleeding, which she says happens 3 times a day. Otherwise very
fit 
(yoga, gym, power walks daily) and healthy (very diet conscious). From
what 
I have read, there is not much she can do - drugs are contraindicated
and 
the pregnancy hormones are probably exacerbating the condition, which
will 
improve once the baby arrives. Any suggestions most welcome!

Many thanks,

Andrea

-
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Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

[Julie Clarke]

Why not just give her the facts according to the mothers and babies 2001
Dept of Health stats.
Sydney Adventist Hospital
Normal vaginal birth   57.4%  state average 67.2
Forceps7.2%  state average  2.2
Vacuum extraction  6.3%   state average 8.0
Elective caesarean  18.7%   state average 11.6
Emergency caesarean  10.3%  state average 10.6
Epidural 55.2%  state average 20.1
Episiotomy 30.2% state average 14.1

For further information on statistics for New South Wales 
And to have posted to you, a free copy of the mothers and babies stats
for 2001 contact:
Centre for Epidemiology and Research
Public Health Division
NSW Dept of Health
Locked Mail Bag 961
North Sydney NSW 2059
Tel: 9391 9223
Fax: 9391 9232

Or from the Public Health Division website at

www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/phb/phb.html

I find it the quickest to fax my request :-)

hug
Julie Clarke
Childbirth and Parenting Educator
Transition into Parenthood
9 Withybrook Pl
Sylvania  NSW  2224
T. (02) 9544 6441
F (02) 9544 9257
M. 0401 265 530
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of leanne wynne
Sent: Thursday, 20 February 2003 9:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

So give HIM the epidural!!
The Sydney Adventist Hospital (previously known as the San) is a very 
expensive private hospital on the upper North Shore, for those who
hadn't 
heard of it. Maybe this couple should be enlightened about the high 
intervention rates at private hospitals.
Leanne,
P.S. Bias toward the truth isn't such a bad thing!






>From: "Jim O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [ozmidwifery] Info required.
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:36:45 +1100
>
>Dear all,
>I am seeking info on where a woman having her second baby might go for 
>classes ( or other ) from a friend of mine. Traumatic first delivery
...IOL 
>for post dates with Prostin and good labour following.  As the story
goes 
>the husband who is quite dominant became tired of back rubbing and said
he 
>wanted an epidural.  Anaesthetist arrives to which she says she did not

>want one, he declines to discuss the procedure with her till she says
she 
>will have one. Pressure from husband and possibly the midwife (
embarrassed 
>to have called the anaesthetist ), the woman acquiesces...labour 
>stops..forceps delivery, large epis which later breaks down.  They
are 
>going to the same Obs and plan on birthing at the Sands in Sydney 
>againI know, I know I can hear you already but my friend is not

>sure she can budge this decision herself as her opinion might be
construed 
>as biased.  Therefore the option to attend a good active birth class or

>discussion group would be good.
> Anticipating your wonderful replies.  Katy.


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

[leanne wynne]

So give HIM the epidural!!
The Sydney Adventist Hospital (previously known as the San) is a very 
expensive private hospital on the upper North Shore, for those who hadn't 
heard of it. Maybe this couple should be enlightened about the high 
intervention rates at private hospitals.
Leanne,
P.S. Bias toward the truth isn't such a bad thing!






From: "Jim O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Info required.
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:36:45 +1100

Dear all,
I am seeking info on where a woman having her second baby might go for 
classes ( or other ) from a friend of mine. Traumatic first delivery ...IOL 
for post dates with Prostin and good labour following.  As the story goes 
the husband who is quite dominant became tired of back rubbing and said he 
wanted an epidural.  Anaesthetist arrives to which she says she did not 
want one, he declines to discuss the procedure with her till she says she 
will have one. Pressure from husband and possibly the midwife ( embarrassed 
to have called the anaesthetist ), the woman acquiesces...labour 
stops..forceps delivery, large epis which later breaks down.  They are 
going to the same Obs and plan on birthing at the Sands in Sydney 
againI know, I know I can hear you already but my friend is not 
sure she can budge this decision herself as her opinion might be construed 
as biased.  Therefore the option to attend a good active birth class or 
discussion group would be good.
Anticipating your wonderful replies.  Katy.


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[ozmidwifery] Going to NSW NACE

[Denise Hynd]

Dear ALL
If you are going to the NACE conference at Coogee on Friday please come and
say hello
at the ACE table
Andrea has very generously lent some space to MC to inform conference
attendees about NMAP

Justine Caines will be there so you can talk to her about what you can do to
help the campaign in NSW and assist this dynamic mother of 3 under 4

I plan to be there in the afternnoon
See you there
Denise

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From: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Colitis


> I knew of one recently and the only thing they did for her was to induce
her
> early to relieve the pain. The only good thing I can offer is that people
> with chronic pain often cope with labour pain really easily - because
> they're so used to accepting and managing it instead of trying to escape.
>
> Poor thing, some people have such burdens?
>
> Robin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:57 PM
> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Colitis
>
>
> > Can anyone help me with a problem for one of my clients:  28 weeks, 1st
> > baby, suffering from colitis and getting worse - main symptom seems to
be
> > rectal bleeding, which she says happens 3 times a day. Otherwise very
fit
> > (yoga, gym, power walks daily) and healthy (very diet conscious). From
> what
> > I have read, there is not much she can do - drugs are contraindicated
and
> > the pregnancy hormones are probably exacerbating the condition, which
will
> > improve once the baby arrives. Any suggestions most welcome!
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> > -
> > Andrea Robertson
> > Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
> >
> > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > web: www.birthinternational.com
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[ozmidwifery] Liist on compleat mother

[Denise Hynd]

Dear All
I was directed to the Compleat Mother web site listing of midwives to find
no listings for NSW or WA
I have not checked out other states
But ask those who are still in practice to please add your contact details
to this site and similar ones if you have not already?
Denise



http://www.birthpartners.com/search/Midwives/Australia/NewSouthWales

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

[Robin Moon]

I knew of one recently and the only thing they did for her was to induce her
early to relieve the pain. The only good thing I can offer is that people
with chronic pain often cope with labour pain really easily - because
they're so used to accepting and managing it instead of trying to escape.

Poor thing, some people have such burdens?

Robin

- Original Message -
From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Colitis


> Can anyone help me with a problem for one of my clients:  28 weeks, 1st
> baby, suffering from colitis and getting worse - main symptom seems to be
> rectal bleeding, which she says happens 3 times a day. Otherwise very fit
> (yoga, gym, power walks daily) and healthy (very diet conscious). From
what
> I have read, there is not much she can do - drugs are contraindicated and
> the pregnancy hormones are probably exacerbating the condition, which will
> improve once the baby arrives. Any suggestions most welcome!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Andrea
>
> -
> Andrea Robertson
> Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
>
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: www.birthinternational.com
>
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Morning tea with Sheila Kitzinger

[barbara glare & chris bright]

 Hi, I'm re-sending.  The seminar on March 1st is in Adelaide!

Love, Barb

> ABA and Readings Books and Music will be hosting a "morning tea" with
Sheila
> Kitzinger on Wed Feb 26th at 11am at Gasworks Park, Graham St Port
> Melbourne.  The cost is $7.50 per adult.  This is a child-friendly event,
> and children are free of charge.
> The Breastfeeding, Birth and Beyond Seminar has been extremely popular.
The
> morning tea is a fabulous opportunity for ABA members and counsellors to
> meet more informally with Sheila.  Sheila's books and a range of others
will
> be available for purchase on the day, or you can bring your old and much
> loved copy for her to sign.
> To assist with planning, it would be great if you could book with Readings
> in Port Melbourne.  The number is (03)9681 9255
>
> Please feel free to distribute this on other lists.  Still spaces
available
> for the Sheila Seminar in Adelaide on March 1st see
> www.breastfeeding.asn.au
>

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From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Morning tea with Sheila Kitzinger


Hi Barb,
Dont you mean - still places in ADELAIDE on March 1st
seeya there
Pinky

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From: " barbara glare & chris bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ozmidwifery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Morning tea with Sheila Kitzinger


> Hi,
>
> ABA and Readings Books and Music will be hosting a "morning tea" with
Sheila
> Kitzinger on Wed Feb 26th at 11am at Gasworks Park, Graham St Port
> Melbourne.  The cost is $7.50 per adult.  This is a child-friendly event,
> and children are free of charge.
> The Breastfeeding, Birth and Beyond Seminar has been extremely popular.
The
> morning tea is a fabulous opportunity for ABA members and counsellors to
> meet more informally with Sheila.  Sheila's books and a range of others
will
> be available for purchase on the day, or you can bring your old and much
> loved copy for her to sign.
> To assist with planning, it would be great if you could book with Readings
> in Port Melbourne.  The number is (03)9681 9255
>
> Please feel free to distribute this on other lists.  Still spaces
available
> for the Sheila Seminar in Melbourne on March 1st see
> www.breastfeeding.asn.au
>
> Love, Barb
>
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

[mel gregory]

Hi Andrea , the only experience I have had is vicariously through a very
good freind . She developed colitis before her first pregnancy  and then bad
news is that the effects of pregnancy made the condition A LOT worse .
Howver she always claimed that vigorous exercise increased rectal bleeding ,
so gave up on evrything other thangentle strolls along the beach (in
Aberdeen ?!?!). She did try a course of homoeopathy , though was not
supported in this by her incredibly cynical husband who fianally persuaded
her to opt for the steroids . THis she did for the rest of the pregnancy and
gave birth to a term but very underweight and unsettled baby . Incidentally
he is now 12 years old  and  shows a healthy interest in computors , Tolkein
and doesnt speak in anything other than ksingle syllableds...so completely
normal. However after the pregnancy my friend continued to ber very pootly
and after a year opted for a colostomy. She subsequently birthed 2 more
bouncing healthy babies , one vaginally and one c/s ..though this was
nothing to do with her previous surgery . Although she is very healthy now
she is regretful that she did not pursue the course of homoeopathy and feels
that she could have got bt without the steroids or radical surgury .
Nevertheless she has been assured on many occaisions that she had no real '
choice ' (?) and that pregnancy and the effects of progesterone invariable
have a negative effect on diseases such as colitis , chrons etc
 sorry to be long winded and am not sure if it has been useful
in short  perhaps your client could try sticking to yoga , relaxing andthe
good diet as a first resort
 yours
Mel
- Original Message -
From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Colitis


> Can anyone help me with a problem for one of my clients:  28 weeks, 1st
> baby, suffering from colitis and getting worse - main symptom seems to be
> rectal bleeding, which she says happens 3 times a day. Otherwise very fit
> (yoga, gym, power walks daily) and healthy (very diet conscious). From
what
> I have read, there is not much she can do - drugs are contraindicated and
> the pregnancy hormones are probably exacerbating the condition, which will
> improve once the baby arrives. Any suggestions most welcome!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Andrea
>
> -
> Andrea Robertson
> Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
>
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: www.birthinternational.com
>
>
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Alice's continued stories

[Aviva Sheb'a]

You ought to meet her!
- Original Message - 
From: Mrs joanne m 
fisher 
To: Ozmidwifery 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:26 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Alice's continued stories

Dear Aviva,
Thanks for posting Alice's continued stories, I 
love reading them.  She writes so well.
Cheers, Joanne.

   
   
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

[Aviva Sheb'a]

Why doesn't she DIVORCE THE SILLY 
BASTARD! HE wanted the epidural! Whose birth was/is it anyway? At the very 
least, maybe she could read some of our emails and learn a lot, so could he. 
There has to be a class in Sydney -- no?
Aviva
- Original Message - 
From: Jim O'Neill 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Info required.

Dear all,
I am seeking info on where a woman having her 
second baby might go for classes ( or other ) from a friend of 
mine. Traumatic first delivery ...IOL for post dates with Prostin and good 
labour following.  As the story goes the husband who is quite dominant 
became tired of back rubbing and said he wanted an epidural.  Anaesthetist 
arrives to which she says she did not want one, he declines to discuss the 
procedure with her till she says she will have one. Pressure from husband 
and possibly the midwife ( embarrassed to have called the 
anaesthetist ), the woman acquiesces...labour stops..forceps delivery, 
large epis which later breaks down.  They are going to the same Obs 
and plan on birthing at the Sands in Sydney againI know, I know I can hear 
you already but my friend is not sure she can budge this decision herself as 
her opinion might be construed as biased.  Therefore the option to attend a 
good active birth class or discussion group would be good.  
    Anticipating your wonderful 
replies.  Katy.
 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

[Aviva Sheb'a]

Bowen Technique. Is bleeding from 
haemorrhoids? Is she overdoing the exercise? Would Kaomagma be OK if she's 
having a lot of diarrhoea? 
Aviva
- Original Message - 
From: Andrea 
Robertson 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Colitis

Can anyone help me with a problem for one of my clients:  28 weeks, 
1st baby, suffering from colitis and getting worse - main symptom seems to 
be rectal bleeding, which she says happens 3 times a day. Otherwise very fit 
(yoga, gym, power walks daily) and healthy (very diet conscious). >From what 
I have read, there is not much she can do - drugs are contraindicated and 
the pregnancy hormones are probably exacerbating the condition, which will 
improve once the baby arrives. Any suggestions most welcome!Many 
thanks,Andrea-Andrea RobertsonBirth International * 
ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Educatione-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]web: 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Morning tea with Sheila Kitzinger

[Pinky McKay]

Hi Barb,
Dont you mean - still places in ADELAIDE on March 1st
seeya there
Pinky

- Original Message -
From: " barbara glare & chris bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ozmidwifery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Morning tea with Sheila Kitzinger


> Hi,
>
> ABA and Readings Books and Music will be hosting a "morning tea" with
Sheila
> Kitzinger on Wed Feb 26th at 11am at Gasworks Park, Graham St Port
> Melbourne.  The cost is $7.50 per adult.  This is a child-friendly event,
> and children are free of charge.
> The Breastfeeding, Birth and Beyond Seminar has been extremely popular.
The
> morning tea is a fabulous opportunity for ABA members and counsellors to
> meet more informally with Sheila.  Sheila's books and a range of others
will
> be available for purchase on the day, or you can bring your old and much
> loved copy for her to sign.
> To assist with planning, it would be great if you could book with Readings
> in Port Melbourne.  The number is (03)9681 9255
>
> Please feel free to distribute this on other lists.  Still spaces
available
> for the Sheila Seminar in Melbourne on March 1st see
> www.breastfeeding.asn.au
>
> Love, Barb
>
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[ozmidwifery] Colitis

[Andrea Robertson]

Can anyone help me with a problem for one of my clients:  28 weeks, 1st 
baby, suffering from colitis and getting worse - main symptom seems to be 
rectal bleeding, which she says happens 3 times a day. Otherwise very fit 
(yoga, gym, power walks daily) and healthy (very diet conscious). From what 
I have read, there is not much she can do - drugs are contraindicated and 
the pregnancy hormones are probably exacerbating the condition, which will 
improve once the baby arrives. Any suggestions most welcome!

Many thanks,

Andrea

-
Andrea Robertson
Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.birthinternational.com


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[ozmidwifery] Morning tea with Sheila Kitzinger

[barbara glare & chris bright]

Hi,

ABA and Readings Books and Music will be hosting a "morning tea" with Sheila
Kitzinger on Wed Feb 26th at 11am at Gasworks Park, Graham St Port
Melbourne.  The cost is $7.50 per adult.  This is a child-friendly event,
and children are free of charge.
The Breastfeeding, Birth and Beyond Seminar has been extremely popular.  The
morning tea is a fabulous opportunity for ABA members and counsellors to
meet more informally with Sheila.  Sheila's books and a range of others will
be available for purchase on the day, or you can bring your old and much
loved copy for her to sign.
To assist with planning, it would be great if you could book with Readings
in Port Melbourne.  The number is (03)9681 9255

Please feel free to distribute this on other lists.  Still spaces available
for the Sheila Seminar in Melbourne on March 1st see
www.breastfeeding.asn.au

Love, Barb

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[ozmidwifery] Info required.

[Jim O'Neill]

Dear all,
I am seeking info on where a woman having her 
second baby might go for classes ( or other ) from a friend of 
mine. Traumatic first delivery ...IOL for post dates with Prostin and good 
labour following.  As the story goes the husband who is quite dominant 
became tired of back rubbing and said he wanted an epidural.  Anaesthetist 
arrives to which she says she did not want one, he declines to discuss the 
procedure with her till she says she will have one. Pressure from husband 
and possibly the midwife ( embarrassed to have called the 
anaesthetist ), the woman acquiesces...labour stops..forceps delivery, 
large epis which later breaks down.  They are going to the same Obs 
and plan on birthing at the Sands in Sydney againI know, I know I can hear 
you already but my friend is not sure she can budge this decision herself as 
her opinion might be construed as biased.  Therefore the option to attend a 
good active birth class or discussion group would be good.  
    Anticipating your wonderful 
replies.  Katy.

[ozmidwifery] Alice's continued stories

[Mrs joanne m fisher]

Dear Aviva,
Thanks for posting Alice's continued stories, I 
love reading them.  She writes so well.
Cheers, Joanne.