[ozmidwifery] Fw: National Caesarean Awareness Day 2003.

[Denise Hynd]

Title: National Caesarean Awareness Day 2003.



 
 
Hi all,So that the Birthrites: 
Healing After Caesarean Inc. website can be updated to include any happenings 
that are occurring (nation-wide) on September 11th, 2003, in celebration of the 
National Caesarean Awareness Day, could you please email us information about 
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include contact details, venues, costs, etc. In Perth we are having a 
day devoted to sharing information and workshops. I will attach our Press 
Release and if you are interested you can visit the Birthrites website to find 
out more.Birthing Beautifully,Jackie Mawson.Birthrites: 
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[ozmidwifery] OZMidhistory???

[Denise Hynd]

Dear All
I know from my mother and her many cousins they 
were born at home (in my great-grandmother's house ) in the 1920's in outer 
western Sydney with the same midwife and I understand paid by the government as 
my family were new immigrants in those days and never wealthy!!Does any 
one know if community midwives were going in WA particualrly Perth in this era 
also?
 
Denise Hynd

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another article on the doctor's crisis

[Denise Hynd]

Dear Andrea
Sounds also like Martyn Goddard and the Australian Consumers Association
needs educating any one know his contact details so we can write to hime
about midwifery options and their record of saftey and efficacy ??
Denise Hynd
- Original Message - 
From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Another article on the doctor's crisis


> Hi,
>
> Yet another article: Sydney Morning Herald, Aug 12, 2003 - Page 1 with big
> pic. The doctors bleating again about their insurance. I note that the
> doctor in Moree (featured in the huge pic, with a baby) says she still
> works at the hospital, so women aren't really missing out on obstetric
> care, just private medicine.
>
> --
>
> Doctors at a premium in the litigation era
> Ruth Pollard and Ben Wyld report.
> August 12, 2003
>
>
>   Sixteen months after Australia's largest medical defence organisation
> collapsed, the true cost is
>   only now emerging.
>
>   At Westmead Hospital, obstetrician Andrew Pesce is worried. "Ten years
> ago," he says, "there were 15 of us providing obstetrics and gynecological
> services at Westmead to people in the area. There are now seven.
>
> "I now turn away more patients . . . than I look after. Our specialty is
> dying - the way that we practise has been corrupted by the expense of the
> litigation and the psychological impact that it has on the practitioners."
>
> General surgeons, neurosurgeons and others paint the same bleak picture.
> Doctors will keep quitting the
> profession because their insurance way too high - despite Federal
> Government subsidies, significant state law reform and Canberra's action
to
> prop up United Medical Protection since the insurer went into provisional
> liquidation last year.
>
> W ithout Government subsidies, obstetricians face annual premiums of up to
> $140,000. Dr Pesce, spokesman for the National Association of Specialist
> Obstetricians and Gynecologists, says 45 of the nation's 700 practising
> obstetricians left obstetric practice in 2001.
>
> "That is about six to seven per cent of the workforce. Last year it was
> even higher than that, and  there is no indication it is going to get any
> better."
>
> One casualty of the crisis is Moree obstetrician and general practitioner
> Maxine Percival, who stopped doing private procedural obstetrics in May
> last year. Dr Percival, who would have faced a premium of $20,000 this
year
> if she had maintained her procedural insurance, now only practises
> obstetrics for the local public hospital. She said a loss of confidence in
> UMP forced her to give up her procedural work.
>
> "In obstetrics, litigation can be launched 25 years after the procedure,"
> Dr Percival said. "I don't know if UMP or their subsidiary will be around
> next year, let alone in 25 years' time."
>
> The Government stepped into the indemnity crisis after UMP went into
> provisional liquidation with unfunded liabilities of $460 million. UMP had
> about 30,000 members, or two-thirds of the country's doctors. The
> Government rescue package is estimated to be worth $260 million over four
> years.
>
> Dr Percival says that for women in Moree, who don't want to be admitted to
> the district hospital as a public patient, the alternative is a three-hour
> trip to the nearest obstetrician in Tamworth.
>
> "For towns that are relatively isolated, you can't put pregnant women in
> the back of an ambulance and transfer them three hours away, hoping they
> get there without having their baby."
>
> Dr Pesce said Federal Government subsidies had helped to make medical
> indemnity more affordable for obstetricians but the pressures, both
> financial and legal, continued to bite.
>
> The president of the NSW Neurosurgical Association, Dr Warwick Stening,
had
> warned last year that 10 of the state's 30 neurosurgeons would resign if
> the medical indemnity crisis continued. In a move to reduce medical
> misadventure, cut premiums and thereby halt the exodus, neurosurgeons
> launched a project to identify and measure risk in the hospital system and
> to manage better the risk of neurosurgical procedures. Working with NSW
> Health, the risk-management model will be rolled out in the next year.
>
> "We are still a long way from solving the problem, but this is a positive
> step that we have taken which will allow us to identify problems before an
> unfavourable outcome occurs," Dr Stening said. "All we can do is to start
> to reduce the number of claims by reducing the number of adverse
incidents."
>
> Dr Stening said the NSW Government's Health Care Liability Act of 2001 and
> the Civil Liability Act of 2002, along with Federal Government subsidies,
> had helped ease the financial pressure on neurosurgeons.
>
> But that was not to say, he said, that a special new levy - imposed on
> doctors in case of a claim against them - would not hurt the rest of the
> medical profe

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another article on the doctor's crisis

[Denise Hynd]

Sounds like Westmead and other hospitals will have to rethink their medical
birthing practices as there will not be enough doctors to intervene when the
routine CTG strips say they should.
I trust the midwives at Westmead are making the most of this opportunity to
introduce real midwifery care a la NMAP??
Denise Hynd
- Original Message - 
From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Another article on the doctor's crisis


> Hi,
>
> Yet another article: Sydney Morning Herald, Aug 12, 2003 - Page 1 with big
> pic. The doctors bleating again about their insurance. I note that the
> doctor in Moree (featured in the huge pic, with a baby) says she still
> works at the hospital, so women aren't really missing out on obstetric
> care, just private medicine.
>
> --
>
> Doctors at a premium in the litigation era
> Ruth Pollard and Ben Wyld report.
> August 12, 2003
>
>
>   Sixteen months after Australia's largest medical defence organisation
> collapsed, the true cost is
>   only now emerging.
>
>   At Westmead Hospital, obstetrician Andrew Pesce is worried. "Ten years
> ago," he says, "there were 15 of us providing obstetrics and gynecological
> services at Westmead to people in the area. There are now seven.
>
> "I now turn away more patients . . . than I look after. Our specialty is
> dying - the way that we practise has been corrupted by the expense of the
> litigation and the psychological impact that it has on the practitioners."
>
> General surgeons, neurosurgeons and others paint the same bleak picture.
> Doctors will keep quitting the
> profession because their insurance way too high - despite Federal
> Government subsidies, significant state law reform and Canberra's action
to
> prop up United Medical Protection since the insurer went into provisional
> liquidation last year.
>
> W ithout Government subsidies, obstetricians face annual premiums of up to
> $140,000. Dr Pesce, spokesman for the National Association of Specialist
> Obstetricians and Gynecologists, says 45 of the nation's 700 practising
> obstetricians left obstetric practice in 2001.
>
> "That is about six to seven per cent of the workforce. Last year it was
> even higher than that, and  there is no indication it is going to get any
> better."
>
> One casualty of the crisis is Moree obstetrician and general practitioner
> Maxine Percival, who stopped doing private procedural obstetrics in May
> last year. Dr Percival, who would have faced a premium of $20,000 this
year
> if she had maintained her procedural insurance, now only practises
> obstetrics for the local public hospital. She said a loss of confidence in
> UMP forced her to give up her procedural work.
>
> "In obstetrics, litigation can be launched 25 years after the procedure,"
> Dr Percival said. "I don't know if UMP or their subsidiary will be around
> next year, let alone in 25 years' time."
>
> The Government stepped into the indemnity crisis after UMP went into
> provisional liquidation with unfunded liabilities of $460 million. UMP had
> about 30,000 members, or two-thirds of the country's doctors. The
> Government rescue package is estimated to be worth $260 million over four
> years.
>
> Dr Percival says that for women in Moree, who don't want to be admitted to
> the district hospital as a public patient, the alternative is a three-hour
> trip to the nearest obstetrician in Tamworth.
>
> "For towns that are relatively isolated, you can't put pregnant women in
> the back of an ambulance and transfer them three hours away, hoping they
> get there without having their baby."
>
> Dr Pesce said Federal Government subsidies had helped to make medical
> indemnity more affordable for obstetricians but the pressures, both
> financial and legal, continued to bite.
>
> The president of the NSW Neurosurgical Association, Dr Warwick Stening,
had
> warned last year that 10 of the state's 30 neurosurgeons would resign if
> the medical indemnity crisis continued. In a move to reduce medical
> misadventure, cut premiums and thereby halt the exodus, neurosurgeons
> launched a project to identify and measure risk in the hospital system and
> to manage better the risk of neurosurgical procedures. Working with NSW
> Health, the risk-management model will be rolled out in the next year.
>
> "We are still a long way from solving the problem, but this is a positive
> step that we have taken which will allow us to identify problems before an
> unfavourable outcome occurs," Dr Stening said. "All we can do is to start
> to reduce the number of claims by reducing the number of adverse
incidents."
>
> Dr Stening said the NSW Government's Health Care Liability Act of 2001 and
> the Civil Liability Act of 2002, along with Federal Government subsidies,
> had helped ease the financial pressure on neurosurgeons.
>
> But that was not to say, he said, that a special new levy - imposed on
> doctor

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: Darwin A.C.M.I

[Denise Hynd]

Are these reallly ozmid emails
I thought attachments bounced
Denise Hynd
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Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:33 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: Darwin A.C.M.I


pLEASE read attachment
cheers
Rymer





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Re: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, powerful Birth!!

[Denise Hynd]

Dear Isis
I hope you write a letter to this hospitals 
management ??Denise

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Isis and 
  Andrew Caple 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:02 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, 
  powerful Birth!!
  
  
  
Hello all,
   
  I just wanted to 
  let you all know that I gave birth to a beautiful, bonny, baby boy on the 
  11th August. Nathan Michael weighed in at 8lb, 8oz/3860g, HC- 
  36cm, length- 54cm. My labour was fast, powerful and so very, very 
  satisfying. It lasted little under 2 hours, I emerged with a neat 
  2nd degree tear and easily birthed the placenta with no 
  man-made help!! My milk has come in and I am looking forward to it 
  settling, but so far this whole experience has made me feel so 
  powerful.
   
  I wanted to thank 
  all of you for being so supportive after my experience with the evil 
  hospital consultant, I wish I could have seen him straight after the 
  birth.. I would have laughed in his face for being so wrong about my body. 
  I had a beautiful experience, with a beautiful midwife (Lynne Pyke) to 
  help me. Not that I needed it really J
   
  I am living proof 
  that a woman who sustains a fourth degree tear can birth another baby (a 
  bigger one by 660g, 2 cm length and 3.5cm HC!!) if she feels she is able 
  to.
   
  Thank you all 
  again for being wonderful people!
   
  Cheers-  
  Isis

Re: [ozmidwifery] Ozmid List Problems

[Denise Hynd]

Dear Kim
Thank you 
Denise Hynd
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From: "Kim Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Ozmid List Problems


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: myths and other ramblings...

[Denise Hynd]

Dear jo
Sounds like this doctor learnt something about 
breastfeeding (from the bub and LC?) 
I hope it started him to rethink and relearn his 
obviously inappropriate information and hope also he shares his new learning 
with his buddies
ask the LC if she thinks there is any chance he may 
or any means the hospital has of educating him.
The hospital has to be doing something toward BFHI 
status that would include educating their medical staff and any one else who 
would give the women B/F advice
 
Take heart Denise Hynd

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JoFromOz 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:23 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: myths and 
  other ramblings...
  
  Dear list,
   
  I just found this info on a "Good Medicine" 
  website - it was all good except for this:
   
  Myth Four: "Breast milk contains all the nutrients needed up to six 
  months" - FALSEBreast milk does not contain enough Vitamin K to 
  prevent some babies from developing bleeding problems in the newborn period. 
  This is why babies are given a Vitamin K injection at birth. The American 
  Academy of Pediatrics recommends that no supplements should be given to breast 
  fed newborns unless told to do so by a medical professional.
   
   
  As if formula has enough Vit K?  As if 
  babies all of a sudden (anthropologically speaking) NEED more vit 
  K?
   
  Anyway, as an aside, the powers that be at work 
  have seen fit to place a Midwifery Student with ME as a buddy!  I felt 
  kinda scared at first, but they obviously think I can do it.  I have 
  spent 2 shifts with her and it's been great :)
   
  But alas, it is still hopsital - Yesterday I was 
  lucky I walked in on a doctor doing a discharge check on one of my babies who 
  hadn't fed for 6 hours (less than 24 hours old, fed well over night).  I 
  caught him telling the poor woman that she should be feeding this baby every 3 
  hours, and why did she leave it so long to try to feed her? He made me do 
  a BSL on the baby - it was 4.0 - perfect.  He then asked me to 
  get the LC to come and speak to her about it (because she needed an expert - 
  of course midwives know nothing about breastfeeding!)  The baby was on 
  the breast, feeding wonderfully, so I got the LC and explianed the 
  situation.  She was shocked - looked at the attachment, told mum how 
  wonderfully she was doing, then went to speak to the doctor.  I hung 
  around to see what happened, and was impressed :)  
   
  *sigh*  why don't doctors learn about 
  breastfeeding?  
   
  Enough said,
  Jo
   
  --Babies are Born... Pizzas are 
  delivered.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Waterbirth, core of life

[Mary Murphy]

Andrea, the Birthplace Support Group in Perth have been doing "school talks"
for many years now.  I would be interested in the Core of Life program.
Where can I find complete information?  We already use the Art of Birth
video.  Cheers, MM

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> We supply the Core of LIfe program with its resources.


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RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw:info please

[Neretlis, Bethany]

dear tina
1) the effects of the drugs are varied. there is more risk of malformation with heroin 
use than speed, however both will cause the babe to withdraw after birth. it will be 
better for the babe if she breastfeeds as the babe will get small doses through the 
breastmilk, and soften the withdrawal. i have worked witha lot of term mums and babes 
during the postnatal period. other than the withdrawal period, which can be very 
severe, i am not aware of the longer term effects on the babe. there is a much greater 
risk of m/c due to FDIU or malformation.
2) there is no effect from the herpes unless she has a current outbreak at term and 
delivers vaginally. then the babe is greatly effected. if she has an outbreak then she 
needs to have a c/s. it is possible to have medicationto reduce the risk of an 
outbreak as she nears term is she wants, and has seen her antenatal dr.
3)i am not sure of the risks of hep c transferral accross the placenta.  postnatally, 
there are proceedures to reduce the risks.
4)she needs to go to a tertiary hospital for her care as they will have the best 
antenatal and postnatal care for her, and programms in place to deal with her type of 
high risk pregnancy.
5)it is very unlikely that any treatment from 2 years ago will have any effect now 
unless she is still using the medication.
6)there are more problems for the babe after birth from a disfuctional family. however 
there isn't much to be done other than keep a close eye on the babe and the mum it 
ensure there are no violence or neglect issues, which are prevelent in this type of 
situation.

good luck in this very heart wrenching situation.

love  Bethany 

-Original Message-
From: M & T Holroyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 17:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw:info please



- Original Message - 
From: M & T Holroyd 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: Fw: Fw:info please


Hi, trying again.  Tina H.

- Original Message - 
From: M & T Holroyd 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Fw:info please


Hi, I tried this last week but had h**p in the wrong place.  Tina H.

- Original Message - 
From: M & T Holroyd 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: info please


Hi,  I have an urgent question from a friend of mine (J).  Her sister who is 21yo. has 
just found out she is about 1.5 to 2 months pregnant (she found out 1 week ago).  J is 
concerned because her sister had a Hx of IV drug use since approx 17yo, she also has 
Hep C (diagnosed 3 years ago).  To add to this she smokes (has cut back a little since 
discovering her pregnancy) & uses pot as well (was regular but my friend is unsure if 
still regular).  J just found out today that her sister is still using speed (more so 
than heroin) & heroin.  Her sister is very happy about her pregnancy, as is her 
partner.  Sister suffers severe depression (also family Hx of schitzophrenia), has 
regular severe ups & downs, and at the moment is extremely tired & morning sick.  Her 
partner also has anger management issues, is posessive & also uses drugs.  To top this 
off, she is also suffering a current outbreak of genital herpes & used ? roaccutane 
(unsure of spelling, but used for acne) last 2 years ago.  J was initally happy 
(trying to be positive) for her sister (though worried) but since finding out about 
the speed & heroin has become very concerned about affects on pregnancy & baby.  J's 
parents are distraught & want her sister to have a ternmination.  J is well educated & 
has given her sister a list of very important things to do straight away but says that 
she is unreliable & when did go to GP today, did not mention her drug use.

This all sounds so strange to me because I have never cared for someone in this 
position, so had no answers for J.  So J's questions are:

1.  How might the different drugs affect this baby / pregnancy?
2.  What effects might the herpes have on this pregnancy?
3.  What effects will the Hep C. have on this baby (& transmission risks)?
4.  Who would be the best care providers for this woman what specialists & 
resources should she access (& does the new ?Phoenix 
 project at the RWH in Brisbane cover someone in this type of high risk group)?
5.  Will the acne treatment 2 years ago still have any effects?
6.  Any comments on something she has not thought of.

J & I both would appreciate your input (please, please, please).  

Thankyou all,

Tina H.  Brisbane. (Hope not to many mistakes, feeding babe whilst typing)
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Re: [ozmidwifery] zoloft and pregnancy/breastfeeding

[Denise Love]

Hello,
Looking for an independent educator in 
brisbane...
Denise LoveBirth Central  92 9399 
5854Doula ExpressLifeOptions
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, powerful Birth!!

[Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital]

What a wonderful story Isis. An inspiration to many who are facing the same negativity 
from their doctors. 
Cheers
Judy

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/08/2003 3:02:13 pm >>>
Hello all,

 

I just wanted to let you all know that I gave birth to a beautiful, bonny,
baby boy on the 11th August. Nathan Michael weighed in at 8lb, 8oz/3860g,
HC- 36cm, length- 54cm. My labour was fast, powerful and so very, very
satisfying. It lasted little under 2 hours, I emerged with a neat 2nd degree
tear and easily birthed the placenta with no man-made help!! My milk has
come in and I am looking forward to it settling, but so far this whole
experience has made me feel so powerful.

 

I wanted to thank all of you for being so supportive after my experience
with the evil hospital consultant, I wish I could have seen him straight
after the birth.. I would have laughed in his face for being so wrong about
my body. I had a beautiful experience, with a beautiful midwife (Lynne Pyke)
to help me. Not that I needed it really :-)

 

I am living proof that a woman who sustains a fourth degree tear can birth
another baby (a bigger one by 660g, 2 cm length and 3.5cm HC!!) if she feels
she is able to.

 

Thank you all again for being wonderful people!

 

Cheers-  Isis




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Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Waterbirth, core of life

[Andrea Robertson]

Hello Sally,

We supply the Core of LIfe program with its resources. The video is called 
The Art of Birth and is available on our web site:

http://www.birthinternational.com/product/video/vt102.html

It is a beautiful video - very inspiring!

Regards,

Andrea



At 07:50 PM 15/08/2003, Sally Williams wrote:
How would I get a copy of this video?

Sally
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From: Sheena Johnson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:53 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Waterbirth, core of life
- Original Message -
From: Sheena Johnson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: Waterbirth, core of life
Jan

Just saw a video with a presentation on the core of life program by the 
midwives at Rosebud. You were the midwife assisting at one of the 
waterbirth on the video. We watched four births altogether in water. I was 
amazed to see that in all the births there did not appear to be and active 
pushing, you know the real screw up the face and push. In fact in 
one of them the uterus just rose up and pushed the baby out, the most 
amazing and wonderful thing I have seen. Two comments here, one that it is 
a very good exponent of letting the body do the work and following the 
cues, not forcing things to happen, but more importantly, I feel that we 
are educating our youth to consider water birth as one of the options for 
birthing and maybe bring this type of birthing into the regular choices 
that women could make in the future. Would welcome some discussion on this.

Sheena
Midwifery Student
Ballarat Uni


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RE: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, powerful Birth!!

[Jaqueline Marwick]

Well done, 
ISIS!Your faith in your body has empowered yourself to fulfill what 
noone should have doubted!
You are 
indeed a winner!
Congratulations on your new baby
Cheers
Jackie

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  HolroydSent: Friday, 15 August 2003 5:22 PMTo: 
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  Triumphant, powerful Birth!!
  Dear Isis,
   
  Congratulations...  I have been thinking of 
  you & am so glad to hear all went well.  
   
  With warm wishes,  Tina H.
  
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From: 
Isis and 
Andrew Caple 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:02 
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, 
powerful Birth!!



  
Hello all,
 
I just wanted 
to let you all know that I gave birth to a beautiful, bonny, baby boy on 
the 11th August. Nathan Michael weighed in at 8lb, 8oz/3860g, 
HC- 36cm, length- 54cm. My labour was fast, powerful and so very, very 
satisfying. It lasted little under 2 hours, I emerged with a neat 
2nd degree tear and easily birthed the placenta with no 
man-made help!! My milk has come in and I am looking forward to it 
settling, but so far this whole experience has made me feel so 
powerful.
 
I wanted to 
thank all of you for being so supportive after my experience with the 
evil hospital consultant, I wish I could have seen him straight after 
the birth.. I would have laughed in his face for being so wrong about my 
body. I had a beautiful experience, with a beautiful midwife (Lynne 
Pyke) to help me. Not that I needed it really J
 
I am living 
proof that a woman who sustains a fourth degree tear can birth another 
baby (a bigger one by 660g, 2 cm length and 3.5cm HC!!) if she feels she 
is able to.
 
Thank you all 
again for being wonderful people!
 
Cheers-  
Isis

Re: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, powerful Birth!!

[TinaPettigrew]

Power to the woman!
Congratulations Isis.
with love Tina Pettigrew.

[ozmidwifery] Internet Links

[M & T Holroyd]

Hi,
 
 I stupidly removed my links file with all the 
wonderful links that had been sent to ?Alphia (sorry can't remember).  
Could some kind person please resend (direct to me if you wish).  I was 
enjoying working my way through the lists.
 
Thanking you,  Tina 
H.

RE: [ozmidwifery] core of life video

[Julie Clarke]

Hi

I have a feeling the video you are
describing is “The Art of Birth” by Shea Caplice.

2 of the waterbirths are homebirths and
the other 2 are at the Royal Hospital for Women Birth Centre.

Shea and Sheryl are the wonderful midwives
at 3 of the births and Jan Robinson shows brilliant midwifery skills at the 4th  homebirth waterbirth.

It is available from Birth International.

I show it in my hospital classes and in my
independent practise – the video is both very moving and yet gives groups
a couple of laughs too.

Hug

Julie



 

 

Julie
 Clarke CBE

Childbirth and Parenting Educator

ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9 Withybrook Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

T.  (02) 9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 265530

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au



 

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Behalf Of Sheena Johnson
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 8:14
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] core of
life video

 



Sally





 





I am not sure how you would
get a copy. One of the student midwives that did the presentation works at
Rosebud Hospital, where this programme the core of life was first used. I
suggest you ring Rosebud hospital and ask for a contact no. They have developed
a very good educational package and are running training sessions (Train the
trainer) for midwives interested in taking the programme into schools in their
region.





 





Regards  Sheena

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: Darwin A.C.M.I

[Mary Murphy]

I would love to know what you had to say in the attatchment, but I don't
open attatchments from people I don't know.  Is it possible to send us the
message in the body of the email?  thanks, MM
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, powerful Birth!!

[M & T Holroyd]

Dear Isis,
 
Congratulations...  I have been thinking of 
you & am so glad to hear all went well.  
 
With warm wishes,  Tina H.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Isis and 
  Andrew Caple 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:02 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant, 
  powerful Birth!!
  
  
  
Hello all,
   
  I just wanted to 
  let you all know that I gave birth to a beautiful, bonny, baby boy on the 
  11th August. Nathan Michael weighed in at 8lb, 8oz/3860g, HC- 
  36cm, length- 54cm. My labour was fast, powerful and so very, very 
  satisfying. It lasted little under 2 hours, I emerged with a neat 
  2nd degree tear and easily birthed the placenta with no 
  man-made help!! My milk has come in and I am looking forward to it 
  settling, but so far this whole experience has made me feel so 
  powerful.
   
  I wanted to thank 
  all of you for being so supportive after my experience with the evil 
  hospital consultant, I wish I could have seen him straight after the 
  birth.. I would have laughed in his face for being so wrong about my body. 
  I had a beautiful experience, with a beautiful midwife (Lynne Pyke) to 
  help me. Not that I needed it really J
   
  I am living proof 
  that a woman who sustains a fourth degree tear can birth another baby (a 
  bigger one by 660g, 2 cm length and 3.5cm HC!!) if she feels she is able 
  to.
   
  Thank you all 
  again for being wonderful people!
   
  Cheers-  
  Isis

[ozmidwifery] core of life video

[Sheena Johnson]

Sally
 
I am not sure how you would get a copy. One of the 
student midwives that did the presentation works at Rosebud Hospital, where this 
programme the core of life was first used. I suggest you ring Rosebud hospital 
and ask for a contact no. They have developed a very good educational package 
and are running training sessions (Train the trainer) for midwives interested in 
taking the programme into schools in their region.
 
Regards  Sheena

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Waterbirth, core of life

[Sally Williams]

How would I get a copy of this video?
 
Sally

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sheena Johnson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:53 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Waterbirth, 
  core of life
  
   
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sheena 
  Johnson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:20 PM
  Subject: Waterbirth, core of life
  
  Jan 
   
  Just saw a video with a presentation on the core 
  of life program by the midwives at Rosebud. You were the midwife assisting at 
  one of the waterbirth on the video. We watched four births altogether in 
  water. I was amazed to see that in all the births there did not appear to be 
  and active pushing, you know the real screw up the face and push. In 
  fact in one of them the uterus just rose up and pushed the baby out, the most 
  amazing and wonderful thing I have seen. Two comments here, one that it is a 
  very good exponent of letting the body do the work and following the cues, not 
  forcing things to happen, but more importantly, I feel that we are educating 
  our youth to consider water birth as one of the options for birthing and 
  maybe bring this type of birthing into the regular choices that women could 
  make in the future. Would welcome some discussion on this.
   
  Sheena
  Midwifery Student
  Ballarat 
Uni

[ozmidwifery] Fw:info please

[M & T Holroyd]

 
- Original Message - 
From: M 
& T Holroyd 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: Fw: Fw:info please

Hi, trying again.  Tina H.
 
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From: M 
& T Holroyd 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Fw:info please

Hi, I tried this last week but had h**p in the 
wrong place.  Tina H.
 
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From: M 
& T Holroyd 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: info please


Hi,  I have an urgent question from a friend 
of mine (J).  Her sister who is 21yo. has just found out she is about 1.5 
to 2 months pregnant (she found out 1 week ago).  J is concerned 
because her sister had a Hx of IV drug use since approx 17yo, she also has Hep C 
(diagnosed 3 years ago).  To add to this she smokes (has cut back a little 
since discovering her pregnancy) & uses pot as well (was regular but my 
friend is unsure if still regular).  J just found out today that her sister 
is still using speed (more so than heroin) & heroin.  Her sister 
is very happy about her pregnancy, as is her partner.  Sister suffers 
severe depression (also family Hx of schitzophrenia), has regular severe ups 
& downs, and at the moment is extremely tired & morning sick.  Her 
partner also has anger management issues, is posessive & also uses 
drugs.  To top this off, she is also suffering a current outbreak of 
genital herpes & used ? roaccutane (unsure of spelling, but used for acne) 
last 2 years ago.  J was initally happy (trying to be positive) for 
her sister (though worried) but since finding out about the speed & heroin 
has become very concerned about affects on pregnancy & baby.  J's 
parents are distraught & want her sister to have a ternmination.  
J is well educated & has given her sister a list of very important 
things to do straight away but says that she is unreliable & when did go to 
GP today, did not mention her drug use.
 
This all sounds so strange to me because I have 
never cared for someone in this position, so had no answers for J.  So J's 
questions are:
 
1.  How might the different drugs affect 
this baby / pregnancy?
2.  What effects might the herpes have on this 
pregnancy?
3.  What effects will the Hep C. have on this 
baby (& transmission risks)?
4.  Who would be the best care providers for 
this woman what specialists & resources should she access (& does 
the new ?Phoenix 
     project at the RWH in 
Brisbane cover someone in this type of high risk group)?
5.  Will the acne treatment 2 years ago still 
have any effects?
6.  Any comments on something she has not 
thought of.
 
J & I both would appreciate your input (please, 
please, please).  
 
Thankyou all,
 
Tina H.  Brisbane. (Hope not to many mistakes, 
feeding babe whilst typing)