Re: [ozmidwifery] excellent book

[Lynne Staff]

Make sure you finish the book Claire - it is full of insight and has lessons
for us all. You should read his paper "Fish Can't See Water" - you can
access it on the Birthinternational website - it is well worth a read. I
gave it to all the doctors at work!
Regards, Lynne
- Original Message -
From: "Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:12 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] excellent book


> I have just started a really good book which I think everyone should read,
> it is called "Pursuing the Birth Machine" by Marsden Wagner.  I am only on
> the third chapter, but it is amazing to have some of the things I have
been
> suspicious of confirmed.  It's not all in my head after all.
>
> Claire Saxby
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Re: [ozmidwifery] questions regarding cs states.

[Lynne Staff]

Hi Jo - you could write to ACHS (Australian Health 
Care Standard) and aske them for some stats - they collect data from accredited 
hospitals for "obstetric Clinical Indicators" and have state perecentages. This 
may help. You will never get private hospital figues, unless you do as 
Marsden Wagner does and has spies! Tightly guarded information, but hopefully 
not for long.
Regards, Lynne 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jo 
  & Dean Bainbridge 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:59 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] questions 
  regarding cs states.
  
  I have someone who is after some cs and vbac 
  stats for the Nation...I have really only got access to SA's and so would be 
  really appreciative if someone could lend a hand.
  the required info is listed belowthe bits in 
  blue are the bits she needs help on.
   
  Australia’s Caesarean rate is now the x 
  highest in the world.
   
  Save $x per Australian
  And by avoiding approximately x000 
  caesareans at an average cost of $…, this also means huge cost savings for the 
  taxpayer – ($xx for every Australian) health dollars that could be much better 
  spent.
  The Caesarean rate in Australia has soared over the last x years and now stands at 21.1% of births 
  nationally (1998), and up to xx% in some 
  private hospitals  compared to 
  xx% in comparable countries like New 
  Zealand
   
  
In Netherlands 
the caesarean rate has risen only x% 
in y years, - eg in 1995 it was 9.2%*
  
  
In Australia the private hospital 
Caesar rate now tops 50%. . Public x% and private 
x%.
   
  
  
Natural birth 
alternatives are shrinking unnecessarily in Australia. For example, in 
Australia the homebirth rate was 0.3% in xx year, in the same year the homebirth 
rate in The Netherlands was yy%.
    
  Society/Cost
  
A caesarean costs nearly twice as 
much as a vaginal birth (??) 
Impacts on society of PND  - 
statistics?
   
  
vbac rates in 
  vic?
  Thanks for your help.
  cheers
  Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 
  6918birth with trust, faith & 
love...

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Postnatal care in Darwin

[Lois J Wattis]

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Postnatal care in Darwin



Dear Belinda - thanks for this info.  I will pass 
it on to my client. Kind regards, Lois 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Belinda 
  Brustolin 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:33 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Postnatal 
  care in Darwin
  
  Jan, When I'm not on maternity leave i work as a 
  midwife and child health nurse in the infant clinic at Casuarina clinic and 
  wish to provide the following info for your friend. Darwin has the good  
  fortune to have midwives and child health nurses running infant 
  health clinics at Darwin, Nightcliff, Palmerston, Karama and Causarina, 
  she can wither drop in or make an appointment Mon- Fri. We are different to 
  most of Australia in that we combine immunisations and maternal/child health 
  (0-5 years) as a one stop shop and run education groups, postnatal 
  depression support groups and meet other parent groups each week. We cater 
  well to new parents to Darwin as Darwin is a very transient city especially 
  with defence force family movements and your friend should be given info 
  on a wide variety of parent/play groups available. The family will be welcome 
  at the clinics anytime for any concerns. Email me if you need any more info. 
  Hope the move goes well, Darwin is a great place for young children. Belinda 
  Brustolin
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jan 
Robinson 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Cc: Meryl Hammond 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:03 
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 
Postnatal care in Darwin
Hi LoisIn case the Darwin girls are 
running short of time due to ACMI responsibilities try Meryl Hammond who 
I’ve cc’d above.Meryl has just agreed to be the ASIM representative for 
the Northern Territory so will be able to put your client onto midwives who 
will support your 
client.CheersJan__ Jan 
Robinson 
Phone/fax: 
011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner  
   e-mail: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8 Robin Crescent    
   
   www: 
  midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville  NSW 
 2221   
 National 
Coordinator, 
ASIM__On 
15/8/03 10:45 PM, "Lois J Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
- Original Message - 
  From: Lois J Wattis  
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:40 AMSubject: Postnatal care in 
  DarwinI have a client who will be moving to Darwin very soon after 
  giving birth (baby no.3 due end August, early September), and will be 
  requiring some postnatal care.  Is there anyone in Darwin who may be 
  able to offer some midwifery support and/or friendship to this family who 
  won't know anyone in town?  Email me directly if preferred - 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   THANKS in advance! Lois 
  WattisCommunity Midwifewww.birthjourney.com 
   
   

[ozmidwifery] questions regarding cs states.

[Jo & Dean Bainbridge]

I have someone who is after some cs and vbac stats 
for the Nation...I have really only got access to SA's and so would be really 
appreciative if someone could lend a hand.
the required info is listed belowthe bits in 
blue are the bits she needs help on.
 
Australia’s Caesarean rate is now the x highest 
in the world.
 
Save $x per Australian
And by avoiding approximately x000 caesareans 
at an average cost of $…, this also means huge cost savings for the taxpayer – 
($xx for every Australian) health dollars that could be much better 
spent.
The Caesarean rate in Australia has soared over the last x years and now stands at 21.1% of births nationally 
(1998), and up to xx% in some private 
hospitals  compared to xx% in comparable countries like New 
Zealand
 

  In Netherlands the 
  caesarean rate has risen only x% in y 
  years, - eg in 1995 it was 9.2%*


  In Australia the private hospital 
  Caesar rate now tops 50%. . Public x% and private 
  x%.
 


  Natural birth 
  alternatives are shrinking unnecessarily in Australia. For example, in 
  Australia the homebirth rate was 0.3% 
  in xx year, in the same year the homebirth rate in The Netherlands was 
  yy%.
 
Society/Cost

  A caesarean costs nearly twice as much 
  as a vaginal birth (??)
  Impacts on society of PND  - 
  statistics?
 

  vbac rates in 
vic?
Thanks for your help.
cheers
Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 
6918birth with trust, faith & love...

[ozmidwifery] excellent book

[Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter]

I have just started a really good book which I think everyone should read, 
it is called "Pursuing the Birth Machine" by Marsden Wagner.  I am only on 
the third chapter, but it is amazing to have some of the things I have been 
suspicious of confirmed.  It's not all in my head after all.

Claire Saxby

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?

[M & T Holroyd]

Hi Joanne,  
 
This is not an idea for your question.  I was 
just wondering if you were the same person I worked a night shift with once at a 
private hospital in Brisbane.  I think I worked with you & Jill & 
another agency midwife.  I was very pregnant with my fourth baby & it 
would have been my last shift.  If you are the person I am thinking of I 
just wanted to let you know that you have been in my thoughts.  The Joanne 
I met said some inspirational things to me before I left work about the birth of 
my baby (can't remember what they were exactly but they made my day at the 
time).  If it was you  Thankyou.  
 
Tina H.  Brisbane.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mrs 
  Joanne M Fisher 
  To: Ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:50 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for 
  research and mosiac?
  
  Dear List,
   
  I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined 
  the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my 
  studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over 
  there).  This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal.  I've 
  been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so 
  I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery 
  care.  She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure 
  if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions 
  for me for subjects that I could do a small research on.  I've never done 
  anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital 
  midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies).  I 
  already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other 
  ideas that I haven't thought of.  
  I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would 
  love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless 
  artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do.  Can anyone 
  help???
   
  Cheers, 
  Joanne 
(Fisher)

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Postnatal care in Darwin

[Belinda Brustolin]

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Postnatal care in Darwin



Jan, When I'm not on maternity leave i work as a 
midwife and child health nurse in the infant clinic at Casuarina clinic and wish 
to provide the following info for your friend. Darwin has the good  fortune 
to have midwives and child health nurses running infant health clinics at 
Darwin, Nightcliff, Palmerston, Karama and Causarina, she can wither drop in or 
make an appointment Mon- Fri. We are different to most of Australia in that we 
combine immunisations and maternal/child health (0-5 years) as a one stop 
shop and run education groups, postnatal depression support groups and meet 
other parent groups each week. We cater well to new parents to Darwin as Darwin 
is a very transient city especially with defence force family movements and your 
friend should be given info on a wide variety of parent/play groups 
available. The family will be welcome at the clinics anytime for any concerns. 
Email me if you need any more info. Hope the move goes well, Darwin is a great 
place for young children. Belinda Brustolin




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jan 
  Robinson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Cc: Meryl Hammond 
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:03 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Postnatal 
  care in Darwin
  Hi LoisIn case the Darwin girls are 
  running short of time due to ACMI responsibilities try Meryl Hammond who I’ve 
  cc’d above.Meryl has just agreed to be the ASIM representative for the 
  Northern Territory so will be able to put your client onto midwives who will 
  support your 
  client.CheersJan__ Jan 
  Robinson 
  Phone/fax: 
  011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner  
     e-mail: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8 Robin Crescent    
     
     www: 
    midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville  NSW 
   2221   
   National 
  Coordinator, 
  ASIM__On 
  15/8/03 10:45 PM, "Lois J Wattis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  - Original Message - 
From: Lois J Wattis  
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:40 AMSubject: Postnatal care in 
DarwinI have a client who will be moving to Darwin very soon after 
giving birth (baby no.3 due end August, early September), and will be 
requiring some postnatal care.  Is there anyone in Darwin who may be 
able to offer some midwifery support and/or friendship to this family who 
won't know anyone in town?  Email me directly if preferred - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   THANKS in advance! Lois 
WattisCommunity Midwifewww.birthjourney.com