[ozmidwifery] External Bmidders from UniSA

[Sue Cookson]

Hi,
Just wondering if any of you out there who are doing the external B(Mid)
from Uni SA have had any trouble with your clinical placements?

I'm in northern NSW and have been told that there are very few local
clinical placements available, but do not want to end up doing placements in
nursing homes as was mentioned by someone on the list recently (not
neccessarily doing a Uni SA course).

Thanks, Sue 

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Arthritis in pregnancy

[Sue Cookson]

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Arthritis in pregnancy




Hi Sheena,
I have just been researching the Rhogam thread and came across a discussion on the Midwifery Today forum about a woman who came down with degenerative arthritis about 3 months after receiving her Rhogam shot. This was linked possibly to her mercury level after a Rhogam injection. Do you know if there is a vaccination history with your friend's cousin?
Just a thought,
Sue

Have a friend whose 30 yr old cousin has developed arthritis, she is six months pregnant and confined to a wheelchair. This has only happened since she was pregnant, does anyone have any experience or has anyone heard of this before. I believe she is consulting a rheumatologist, but they are looking for any info out there.
 
Thanks
 
Sheena Johnson

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Stillbirth Memory ideas

[Kate &/or Nick]

Thank you for all the ideas. 
The parents are leading - they are starting to think about their babies now, and 
we have talked about various options. I guess I just wanted to make sure I 
hadn't overlooked any obvious ones while we still have the babies. The parents 
want mementoes, and have had the babies into the hospital once for holding and 
photos. All family memebrs have done a lot of holding and photos. At this point, 
the mother wants to wait until she is out of hospital and able to deal with it 
all. They are very open to having as much collected as possible, understanding 
that it will then be there if they ever want it.  They are truly 
amazing.
 Thank 
you
 
Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] mw needed

[Nikki Macfarlane]

Denise,
 
I am still living in Singapore. Would be happy to 
answer anything on homebirth or other birth options here. Homebirth does happen 
- albeit pretty rarely! The system is obstetrics based but we do work in 
one hospital that is very supportive and many clients arrive pushing and 
leave within a few hours. Also have a few very supportive doctors here. Let me 
know any questions. 
 
Nikki Macfarlane
 
For info on doula services, refer to www.parentlink.org

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Stillbirth Memory ideas

[Abby and Toby]

When my sister lost her baby, 
my mum, other sister and I had a ceremony together. My sister and I each made 
her a small, quilted wall piece and my mum gave her a love, hope and charity 
gold charm.
We gave them to her in a memory 
box that we had decorated.
She kept the box hidden away 
for almost a year and didn't look at it. Now she has the two wall pieces up in 
her lounge room and she wears her charm.
A friend of mine lost her 
little daughter and I am making tiny rainbow quilt for her. 

 
I think the black and white 
photos are a beautiful idea. I have seen a book and a couple of memorial 
websites with black and white photos, they are a beautiful 
reminder.
 
Love 
Abby

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Stillbirth Memory ideas

[Judy Giesaitis]

 

   All of the posts are 
  useful, BUT the most important thing is to follow the bereaved parents.  
  If they don't want all the mementos  PLEASE make sure that they know that 
  they will be stored in a safe place for them to pick up should they want in 
  the future.  Judy 

[ozmidwifery] Re Stillbirth Memory ideas

[axelbys]

Also, writing out thoughts and feelings is immensely
helpful, and a record to look back on in time and see how far you have come
from the initial grief that is so overpowering.

Others (family members, close friends etc.) writing how the
grief changed them, and their thoughts and feelings is also nice to have.  It is a good way to let the grieving
family know that you are grieving with them, although if done too early in the
piece it may make the family feel more isolated and alone in their grief, but
further on down the track it may help.

Hope this is of some use to you.

Amanda

Re: [ozmidwifery] Special offer on Active Birth workshops for 2005

[Andrea Robertson]

Hi Jo,
Yes, please do!
Cheers
Andrea

At 05:20 PM 25/11/2004, you wrote:
Andrea Robertson wrote:
Hi,
I am in the process of planning the Active Birth workshops that will be 
presented by Birth International in May 2005. In the past, to assist 
hospitals make this workshop available for their staff, we have offered a 
special deal: if the hospital provides a free venue and catering, we will 
do all the organising, publicity and administration and give the hospital 
two free places in the program.

If any of you would like to explore this offer further, please email me 
off list (address above). At the moment I only have time in May and early 
June.

Warm regards,
Andrea
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Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
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Can I forward this email to my manager, Andrea?
I'd love to go but my baby is due in May :)
Thanks,
Jo.
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[ozmidwifery] Andrea's Workshop

[Debbie]

Dear Andrea, I am just completing my Grad Dip in 
Midwifery, and would have loved for all the student midwives to start their 
careers with women with your workshop. Would you be open to run the workshop 
under the same deal for student midwives at CSU Wagga Wagga end of June 2005. If 
so contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards 
Debbie

Re: [ozmidwifery] mw needed

[Denise Hynd]

Dear Deb
I was hoping someone would come up with Nikki's 
name and Link
I went to Singapore for a Homebirth 6 years ago now 
and it is very medicalised place, the couple who I went for did an amasing 
amount of work to make it open and legal getting me temporary legislation and 
visa specific for the event !!I met another US midwife who flew in for 
another couple but on a visitor's permit like many others have done and probably 
still do but myself and thecouple did not want it to be 
surreptious!!
 
Denise Hynd
 
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, 
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

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  Denise
   
  Nikki Macfarlane is a Doula and CBE (trained with 
  the NCT in the Uk before movoing to Singapore about 4 years ago).   
  She may well be able to help.
   
  Her details are:
   
   Nikki MacfarlaneChildbirth Educator 
  & Doula (Labour Supporter)Singaporehttp://www.parentlink.org 
   
   
  Debbie
  
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any one know any thing about singapore birth 
options or any midwives in private practise ?avalibility of  home birth 
jan

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas

[Grant and Louise McLeod]

Black and white photos look really nice, some taken with all the family together
 
Louise 
in the countryside
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas

[axelbys]

Hi Kate,

I like Joy’s ideas, and we did very
similar things when our little one died in June, friends gave us 2 Angel Face
roses, and a couple of David Austen roses, and we have planted a garden in
memory of our little girl with each of our children having their own special
plant for her.

The children and my husband also wrote
either a poem or a letter to her and placed it in her casket with a family
photo of us all and a rose.

There are so many wonderful ways of saying
goodbye, and I guess with knowing ideas others have used they will then be able
to choose their own special way of remembering their babies.

We also dressed our baby in a new set of
clothes I had bought for her during the pregnancy, and my sister bought a
beautiful shawl to wrap her in.  We
wanted to keep the clothing she wore before her burial so that is kept in her
memory box along with her hospital name tag and card, photos and sympathy cards
we  received at the time.

Basically we kept everything so we can
pull it out and remember whenever we like.

Photos were really important to us, and we
have a special baby album with all the photos taken after her birth.

Were the couple in your care able to have
photos taken?

Even if they don’t want to keep them
in an album for all to see, they could just have them put away for themselves when
they need to pull them out.

Amanda

 

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memory ideas 

 



Hi





 





I'm a first year BMid. A
little over a month ago, one of my follow through women had stillborn twins.
Because she is still quite ill (and in hospital), the funeral is yet to be held
and we have just starting to talk about momentos. We've covered a lot, but I
wanted any other ideas.





 





We've talked about:





 



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photos 





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foot, hand & lip
prints 







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hair & nail clippings 







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body tracing 







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hospital bracelets 





·  
cot name cards





·  
cord clamps





·  
tape measure 





·  
blanket 





·  
clothing 





·  
anything that has come
into contact with the babies



·
memory box 



Any
other ideas would be gratefully received.





 





Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas

[Joy Cocks]

Oh, also a memory garden can be created further down the 
track if they are interested in gardening, or special plants.  Roses 
are especially good as you can often find ones with names that are particularly 
meaningful for the family.  For instance, there is the ABA 'Mothers Love' 
and also one called 'Angel Face'.  You can have a plaque made up 'In memory 
of.etc' and put that with the tree or plant that has been chosen.  I 
think it's a nice way to remember, at least it is for me, but anything the 
family chooses is fine.  (Our family also decorates the grave at Christmas 
- Santa even visits and leaves a small gift - and sends balloons up to 
Tilly on her birthday and anniversary.)  Writing a song or poem for the 
babies could be a possibility in the future.  It's very early days yet, 
there's no need to rush anything.  Let them take all the time they 
need.
Joy
 
 
Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLCBRIGHT Vic 3741 
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  From: 
  Kate 
  &/or Nick 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 20:37 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory 
  ideas 
  
  Hi
   
  I'm a first year BMid. A little over a 
  month ago, one of my follow through women had stillborn twins. Because she is 
  still quite ill (and in hospital), the funeral is yet to be held and we have 
  just starting to talk about momentos. We've covered a lot, but I wanted any 
  other ideas.
   
  We've talked about:
   
  
¯photos 

¯foot, hand & lip prints 


¯hair & nail clippings 


¯body tracing 

¯hospital bracelets 

cot name cards

cord clamps

tape measure 

blanket 

clothing 

anything that has come into contact with the 
babies
memory box 
  
  Any other ideas would 
  be gratefully received.
   
  Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas

[Joy Cocks]

Dear Kate,
Perhaps a special soft toy for each twin could be included, 
cards sent from friends, angels - there's some nice prints/cards of 2 cherubs 
kissing which represents twins very nicely.  Our family celebrates 
each birthday and Christmas with gifts and cards for our own angelbaby.  
These then go in to her memory box.
Take care,
Joy
 
 
Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLCBRIGHT Vic 3741 
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  From: 
  Kate 
  &/or Nick 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 20:37 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory 
  ideas 
  
  Hi
   
  I'm a first year BMid. A little over a 
  month ago, one of my follow through women had stillborn twins. Because she is 
  still quite ill (and in hospital), the funeral is yet to be held and we have 
  just starting to talk about momentos. We've covered a lot, but I wanted any 
  other ideas.
   
  We've talked about:
   
  
¯photos 

¯foot, hand & lip prints 


¯hair & nail clippings 


¯body tracing 

¯hospital bracelets 

cot name cards

cord clamps

tape measure 

blanket 

clothing 

anything that has come into contact with the 
babies
memory box 
  
  Any other ideas would 
  be gratefully received.
   
  Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] mw needed

[Debbie Slater]

Denise
 
Nikki Macfarlane is a Doula and CBE (trained with 
the NCT in the Uk before movoing to Singapore about 4 years ago).   
She may well be able to help.
 
Her details are:
 
 Nikki MacfarlaneChildbirth Educator 
& Doula (Labour Supporter)Singaporehttp://www.parentlink.org 
 
 
Debbie

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  any one know any thing about singapore birth 
  options or any midwives in private practise ?avalibility of  home birth 
  jan
  
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas

[shaz42]

hi kate as a mid student i looked after  a 
stillbirth so my heart goes out to you, all you can do is talk with the woman 
and use all your skills of empathy and understanding.
regards sharon
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kate 
  &/or Nick 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 8:07 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory 
  ideas
  
  Hi
   
  I'm a first year BMid. A little over a 
  month ago, one of my follow through women had stillborn twins. Because she is 
  still quite ill (and in hospital), the funeral is yet to be held and we have 
  just starting to talk about momentos. We've covered a lot, but I wanted any 
  other ideas.
   
  We've talked about:
   
  
¯photos 

¯foot, hand & lip prints 


¯hair & nail clippings 


¯body tracing 

¯hospital bracelets 

cot name cards

cord clamps

tape measure 

blanket 

clothing 

anything that has come into contact with the 
babies
memory box 
  
  Any other ideas would 
  be gratefully received.
   
  Kate

[ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas

[Kate &/or Nick]

Hi
 
I'm a first year BMid. A little over a 
month ago, one of my follow through women had stillborn twins. Because she is 
still quite ill (and in hospital), the funeral is yet to be held and we have 
just starting to talk about momentos. We've covered a lot, but I wanted any 
other ideas.
 
We've talked about:
 

  ¯photos 
  
  ¯foot, hand & lip prints 
  
  
  ¯hair & nail clippings 
  
  
  ¯body tracing 
  
  ¯hospital bracelets 
  
  cot name cards
  
  cord clamps
  
  tape measure 
  
  blanket 
  
  clothing 
  
  anything that has come into contact with the 
  babies
  memory box 

Any other ideas would 
be gratefully received.
 
Kate