[ozmidwifery] What is midwifery?

[Kate &/or Nick]

What a question!



I am a 2nd year BMid student confronted with an essay which asks just that. 
We are being told to: "Be innovative. Consult personnel - midwives, women, 
multidisciplinary colleagues." Which leads me to this list! I'd really love 
opinions, thoughts and even directions to relevant literature. The full 
question is below. If anyone has any gems on research, I'd love to hear 
them, but the main thing I am chasing from this list is the understanding of 
what midwifery is bit. I have my own ideas and will certainly try to find 
appropriate references. But your opinions/thoughts would be appreciated.



Many thanks



Kate





Consider the relevance of research to midwifery, as well as the issues, 
problems, challenges and benefits of research and/in midwifery. You will 
also need to include an explanation of research itself and an understanding 
of what midwifery is. Include a critical analysis of contemporary midwifery 
using literature sources to substantiate your analysis.






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Re: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp

[Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital]

They used to do that when I was having my babies 30 and 32 yrs ago. Used a 
Kochers clamp. You were in lithotomy with legs tied up so that when you were 
trying to slide through the head of the bed and the wall to get away from the 
pain, you couldn't. Very, Very nasty. 
I would have thought if they were doing their palpations and vaginal examinations properly they would know if the baby's head was down. 
I personally have been thankful for the introduction of the amnihook or 
amnicot and most especially the understanding of the negative side of early ARM 
when not urgently necessary. 
Cheers
Judy>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/05 08:35am 
>>>

Hi ladies,
 
Can anyone shed some light on this 
procedure for me please?
 
A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of 
fetal scalp hair and skin being ‘pulled’ at the same 
time.
 
A good friend of mine only recently 
shared this experience with me about her son’s birth (August 2003). Apparently 
she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was 
pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure 
was performed, her son’s hair was presented to them on a piece of 
cardboard.
 
This was verified by another woman 
who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this 
procedure, I can’t find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I 
must be looking in the wrong areas.
 
Thanks- 
Isis
 
 

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RE: [ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning

[Mike & Lindsay Kennedy]

Hi.

I have just come home from an exciting day
as a Student Midwife.  My first Two births  Okay I was only a
witness, but it was still pretty exciting stuff. The first lady was a
VBAC.  Supposed to be a Cesar on Friday, came in this morning in labour
and I think the Obstetrician was so busy with his theatre list that he just let
her labour.  I think he planned to do a Cesar (in his mind anyway) after
lunch.  He kept saying that she was progressing BUT she probably wouldn’t
deliver.  And she did!!  Not only that but the Dr didn’t get
there!  It was beautiful!  Within half an hour the lady who I had
been with all morning (IOL for postdates) also delivered.  The Dr made it
for that one.  Shame really, it just wasn’t as nice.  So.. not
my perfect scenarios, I am a Home Birth fan myself, but in a hospital where two
weeks ago everyone had a LSCS, I was pretty thrilled to have two normal
deliveries.  I have to admit caring for the women post section I was
beginning to doubt my desire to be a Midwife.  It just isn’t my
thing, all those post op obs and PCAs and drains etc.  But todays
experience reminded me why I want to do this!  

 

Totally enthused!

Lindsay

 









From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Julie Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005
6:21 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] A
wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning



 

Hi 

I have just come in the door from supporting at another
wonderful birth, which was a successful vbac.

The woman had made a well informed choice to aim for a vbac
and not a repeat cesar, however she experienced the usual normal anxiety of
anyone having a vaginal birth compounded with lack of confidence because she
didn’t get there last time.

Well we worked through those issues slowly and gently, over
an hour and a half she pushed her baby into the world – a gorgeous baby
girl with a lovely head of dark curly hair.

The midwife was lovely, gentle, positive, calm, quiet and
unobtrusive.

The dad was great and got into trouble a couple of times
– I felt sorry for him – he was crestfallen because he was trying
to do his best.

The woman was so pleased with herself at having achieved
what she wanted to achieve a natural active birth with no drugs, no
intervention and a fine healthy baby.

She didn’t have any colostrum after the cesar and was
worried – but after this normal birth we got the baby on and the baby
looked very contented and relaxed as I left.

And I have come home with another big smile on my face
satisfied in the knowledge that when a woman puts her mind to it and no one
stands in her way she can do anything can’t she?

A great experience to start the day.

 

Warm hug to all

Julie

 

Julie Clarke CBE

Independent
Childbirth and Parenting Educator

HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner

ACE
Grad Dip Supervisor

NACE
Advanced Educator and Trainer

NACE
National Journal Editor

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9 Withybrook
  Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

Telephone 
9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 2655 30

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au

 

Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s article- interesting!

[Judy Chapman]

The info below was often taken into account when I worked in
Saudi Arabia 10 yrs ago. 
cheers
Judy

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Graduating Direct Entry Midwives

[priddis6]

 HI Joanne,

Thanks for the info. A bit disheartening I must admit, I was fortunate enough 
to have my second child at a birth centre in brisbane and just loved the 
experience. I am hopeful of working there at the end of my degree, and even 
more hopeful that qld change their position by then!
I've already had an insight into the challenges of midwifery, but I am yet to 
be discouraged and can't wait to learn more.

Holly
 Mrs Joanne M Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> It was recently stated at the Review of Maternity Services Forum, that the
> 
Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital will NOT be employing graduating Direct
> 
Entry Midwives!   There are however, DEM's already employed there currently
> 
e.g. from NZ.  However, 3 years is a long time and I'm sure by then things
> 
will be different.  Hopefully QLD will catch up with all you other states
> 
and by then and might even be producing our own DEM's!  Good luck with your
> 
studies.  Midwifery is a WONDERFUL profession (though not without it's
> 
challenges!)
> 

> 
Cheers, Joanne.
> 

> 
- Original Message - 
> 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
To: 
> 
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:45 PM
> 
Subject: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)
> 

> 

> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
>
> 
> I've been reading everyones posts with great interest over the last few
> 
weeks and I have to say that everyone has such a great amount of knowledge
> 
combined it's fantastic and inspirational!
> 
>
> 
> I'll take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Holly I'm a first year
> 
bmid student at uts in nsw. This is the first year nsw has run the course
> 
and I am one of only 29! We all feel very honoured to have been chosen to do
> 
this course but overwhelmed and a bit scared!!  I have four children who
> 
keep me very busy, but a fantastic husband and a very flexible nanny who
> 
have been my lifeline in the first four weeks (only 3 years to go! yipee!!)
> 
>
> 
> So my question is : I'm doing a critical reflection on an incident i
> 
observed in delivery 2 wks ago. I'm after articles etc that are about fear
> 
of pain in labour which can lead to ineffective pushing. Also relevant would
> 
be articles on how the pain of labour/childbirth can lead to delayed bonding
> 
between mother and baby.
> 
>
> 
> Pardon me if I use incorrect language in my descriptions (i'm struggling
> 
with the politically correct stuff).
> 
>
> 
> I'm also interested in knowing if Royal Hospital in Brisbane will look at
> 
employing bmids in 3 yrs time? I think someone on here is from that
> 
hospital?
> 
>
> 
> Thanks for you time and help in advance.
> 
>
> 
> ps - I have searched [EMAIL PROTECTED] with limited success
> 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Network coffee morning

[Tania Smallwood]

Title: Message



Hi Sylvia,
 
It's 95 Glen Osmond Road, the community centre, and if you 
can't park out the front, go up a bit (away from the city) turn left and left 
again onto Main road, and there is a little car park out the back.  Looking 
forward to seeing you there!
 
Cheers
 
Tania

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sylvia Boutsalis 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:45 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth 
  Network coffee morning
  
  Hi 
  Tania,
   
  what 
  number on Glen Osmond Rd?  I would like to come.
   
  Sylvia Boutsalis
  Childbirth Educator
  Infant Massage Instructor
  Adelaide
  

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania 
SmallwoodSent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 4:23 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: 
[ozmidwifery] Homebirth Network coffee morning
Hello everyone!
 
This is to let you all know that the Homebirth Network of 
SA is having their next coffee morning this Friday, the 1st April from 
10am-12md at the Eastwood Community Centre, Glen Osmond Road.  Cost is 
$2.50 for room hire, and there is a playground out the back for 
littlies.  Hope to see you there!
 
Tania
x
   
  

[ozmidwifery] more beautiful births....

[Tania Smallwood]

I am really enjoying Julie's reports of the wonderful births 
she's been at, and wanted to share the most beautiful 
experience I had 2 weeks ago, catching one of my best friend's baby, what an 
honour and a privilege to be so trusted...
 
My friend has had 2 cesarean sections, after long labours, for 
'failure to progress', well after another lengthy build up, followed by a good 
long and hard labour, it became obvious to all that it was probably more like 
'failure to wait'.  My friend's baby was born, into my hands in their home 
a little way from Adelaide, in the peace and sanctity of their bedroom, with 
grandparents and siblings there for the last little bit,  I always knew in 
my heart that she could do it, but to see it come across her face when those 
membranes ruptured ("all on their own, no-one had to do it for me") and then 
when she started to feel her baby move down, what an amazing moment.  
That's the pivotal stuff of really being with women for me, when my belief in 
them becomes real in their hearts.  For some it's innate, and for 
others it's a giant leap.  My friend made the giant leap and it was a truly 
humbling experience to help her through a tough labour and then be given 
the exquisite honour of having her baby born into my hands.
 
Ahhh
 
Tania 

RE: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Network coffee morning

[Sylvia Boutsalis]

Title: Message



Hi 
Tania,
 
what 
number on Glen Osmond Rd?  I would like to come.
 
Sylvia 
Boutsalis
Childbirth Educator
Infant 
Massage Instructor
Adelaide

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania 
  SmallwoodSent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 4:23 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth 
  Network coffee morning
  Hello everyone!
   
  This is to let you all know that the Homebirth Network of SA 
  is having their next coffee morning this Friday, the 1st April from 10am-12md 
  at the Eastwood Community Centre, Glen Osmond Road.  Cost is $2.50 for 
  room hire, and there is a playground out the back for littlies.  Hope to 
  see you there!
   
  Tania
  x
 

Re: [ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning

[Jan Robinson]

Good on you Julie

Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner
National Coordinator  Australian Society of Independent Midwives
8 Robin Crescent   South Hurstville   NSW   2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350
e-mail address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
On 30 Mar, 2005, at 06:21, Julie Clarke wrote:

Hi

I have just come in the door from supporting at another wonderful birth, which was a successful vbac.

The woman had made a well informed choice to aim for a vbac and not a repeat cesar, however she experienced the usual normal anxiety of anyone having a vaginal birth compounded with lack of confidence because she didn’t get there last time.

Well we worked through those issues slowly and gently, over an hour and a half she pushed her baby into the world – a gorgeous baby girl with a lovely head of dark curly hair.

The midwife was lovely, gentle, positive, calm, quiet and unobtrusive.

The dad was great and got into trouble a couple of times – I felt sorry for him – he was crestfallen because he was trying to do his best.

The woman was so pleased with herself at having achieved what she wanted to achieve a natural active birth with no drugs, no intervention and a fine healthy baby.

She didn’t have any colostrum after the cesar and was worried – but after this normal birth we got the baby on and the baby looked very contented and relaxed as I left.

And I have come home with another big smile on my face satisfied in the knowledge that when a woman puts her mind to it and no one stands in her way she can do anything can’t she?

A great experience to start the day.

 

Warm hug to all

Julie

 

Julie Clarke CBE

Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator

HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner

ACE Grad Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

NACE National Journal Editor

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9 Withybrook Place

SylvaniaNSW 2224

Telephone  9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 2655 30

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

visit Julie's website:www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au

 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug

[Mrs Joanne M Fisher]

Not sure why, but an attachment came with your 
email, did you send one?  Also, note at the bottom of this email the 
out-of-date internal virus datatbase.
 
Cheers, Joanne.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sally-Anne Brown 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:38 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my 
  email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug
  
  Helen,  
  The same thing has happenned to me over the past 
  2-3 weeks.  I find the odd one gets through and others 
don't.
   
  Kind Regards
  Sally-Anne
  
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From: 
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To: Ozmidwifery 
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:13 
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my 
email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the 
humbug

I seem to be able to receive from but not send 
to the list.  I have contacted the list administrator but haven't 
heard anything back yet  



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[ozmidwifery] Graduating Direct Entry Midwives

[Mrs Joanne M Fisher]

It was recently stated at the Review of Maternity Services Forum, that the
Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital will NOT be employing graduating Direct
Entry Midwives!   There are however, DEM's already employed there currently
e.g. from NZ.  However, 3 years is a long time and I'm sure by then things
will be different.  Hopefully QLD will catch up with all you other states
and by then and might even be producing our own DEM's!  Good luck with your
studies.  Midwifery is a WONDERFUL profession (though not without it's
challenges!)

Cheers, Joanne.

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)


> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been reading everyones posts with great interest over the last few
weeks and I have to say that everyone has such a great amount of knowledge
combined it's fantastic and inspirational!
>
> I'll take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Holly I'm a first year
bmid student at uts in nsw. This is the first year nsw has run the course
and I am one of only 29! We all feel very honoured to have been chosen to do
this course but overwhelmed and a bit scared!!  I have four children who
keep me very busy, but a fantastic husband and a very flexible nanny who
have been my lifeline in the first four weeks (only 3 years to go! yipee!!)
>
> So my question is : I'm doing a critical reflection on an incident i
observed in delivery 2 wks ago. I'm after articles etc that are about fear
of pain in labour which can lead to ineffective pushing. Also relevant would
be articles on how the pain of labour/childbirth can lead to delayed bonding
between mother and baby.
>
> Pardon me if I use incorrect language in my descriptions (i'm struggling
with the politically correct stuff).
>
> I'm also interested in knowing if Royal Hospital in Brisbane will look at
employing bmids in 3 yrs time? I think someone on here is from that
hospital?
>
> Thanks for you time and help in advance.
>
> ps - I have searched [EMAIL PROTECTED] with limited success
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[ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning

[Julie Clarke]

Hi 

I have just come in the door from supporting at another
wonderful birth, which was a successful vbac.

The woman had made a well informed choice to aim for a vbac
and not a repeat cesar, however she experienced the usual normal anxiety of
anyone having a vaginal birth compounded with lack of confidence because she
didn’t get there last time.

Well we worked through those issues slowly and gently, over
an hour and a half she pushed her baby into the world – a gorgeous baby
girl with a lovely head of dark curly hair.

The midwife was lovely, gentle, positive, calm, quiet and
unobtrusive.

The dad was great and got into trouble a couple of times –
I felt sorry for him – he was crestfallen because he was trying to do his
best.

The woman was so pleased with herself at having achieved
what she wanted to achieve a natural active birth with no drugs, no
intervention and a fine healthy baby.

She didn’t have any colostrum after the cesar and was
worried – but after this normal birth we got the baby on and the baby
looked very contented and relaxed as I left.

And I have come home with another big smile on my face satisfied
in the knowledge that when a woman puts her mind to it and no one stands in her
way she can do anything can’t she?

A great experience to start the day.

 

Warm hug to all

Julie

 

Julie Clarke CBE

Independent
Childbirth and Parenting Educator

HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner

ACE
Grad Dip Supervisor

NACE
Advanced Educator and Trainer

NACE
National Journal Editor

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9
  Withybrook Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

Telephone 
9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 2655 30

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au

 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sacred birthing talk and workshop...

[sharon]

hi tanya would love some more information about the 
workshop. regards sharon heath

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tania Smallwood 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:04 
PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Sacred birthing 
  talk and workshop...
  
  There will be a workshop and talk by a midwife and 'past 
  life and birthing therapist' Sunni Karll from Hawaii in Adelaide on 15th April 
  2005 and workshop on the weekend of the 16th and 17th.  She is the author 
  of Sacred Birthing, A New Humanity.  Anyone interested can email me and 
  I'll mail the attachment with details and prices etc.
   
  Cheers
   
  Tania
   
  PS Is there anyone from the Homebirth network in Melbourne 
  or any birthing support groups that would like the document to circulate to 
  members?

Re: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)

[Janet Ireland]

devine whats on friday? been bed ridden with back should be right by then
love jan
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)


> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been reading everyones posts with great interest over the last few
weeks and I have to say that everyone has such a great amount of knowledge
combined it's fantastic and inspirational!
>
> I'll take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Holly I'm a first year
bmid student at uts in nsw. This is the first year nsw has run the course
and I am one of only 29! We all feel very honoured to have been chosen to do
this course but overwhelmed and a bit scared!!  I have four children who
keep me very busy, but a fantastic husband and a very flexible nanny who
have been my lifeline in the first four weeks (only 3 years to go! yipee!!)
>
> So my question is : I'm doing a critical reflection on an incident i
observed in delivery 2 wks ago. I'm after articles etc that are about fear
of pain in labour which can lead to ineffective pushing. Also relevant would
be articles on how the pain of labour/childbirth can lead to delayed bonding
between mother and baby.
>
> Pardon me if I use incorrect language in my descriptions (i'm struggling
with the politically correct stuff).
>
> I'm also interested in knowing if Royal Hospital in Brisbane will look at
employing bmids in 3 yrs time? I think someone on here is from that
hospital?
>
> Thanks for you time and help in advance.
>
> ps - I have searched [EMAIL PROTECTED] with limited success
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp

[david]

Hi Isis
This was the way amniotomy was performed before the 
advent of amnihooks and amnigloves (but after the midwives long 5th 
fingernail!). The instruments used were curved Harrison Cripes forceps and 
fetal hair indicated that the membranes had been "successfully" ruptured. And 
yes - the docs used to ask if the parents wanted to know the colour of their 
baby's hair.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Isis 
  Caple 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:35 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from 
  fetal scalp
  
  
  Hi 
  ladies,
   
  Can anyone shed some light on this 
  procedure for me please?
   
  A pair of flat bladed (like 
  tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of 
  fetal scalp hair and skin being ‘pulled’ at the same 
  time.
   
  A good friend of mine only 
  recently shared this experience with me about her son’s birth (August 2003). 
  Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be 
  pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head 
  down. After the procedure was performed, her son’s hair was presented to them 
  on a piece of cardboard.
   
  This was verified by another woman 
  who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this 
  procedure, I can’t find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I 
  must be looking in the wrong areas.
   
  Thanks- 
  Isis
   
   

RE: [ozmidwifery] presentation to 6yr olds

[Dean & Jo]

Take a pelvis!  They love that type of thing!!! My 6 yo goes around
asking everyone if they were born at home or hospital.  He is driving
his single female childless teacher crazy! ;o) That's my boy!
Jo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:35 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] presentation to 6yr olds

OK, got 'persuaded' to  do my bit in my sons Grade 1 class - got to give
a 
little chat about "What I do for the community?" in my role as a rural
RN 
and midwife.  Needs to be about 10 mins long.
Have some ideas, but looking for some bright ones from you 'creative'
people 
out there.  And NO, I do not have brand new baby to take along for show
and 
tell!

Cheryl


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