Re: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. Lemay

[brendamanning]

Melissa,
 
Shock ?
Rapid labours & births often result in shocked 
infants. They are just not ready to be here. 
The pres'n was probably irrelevant, unless a tight cord 
round the neck had caused the hyperextended head in the first 
place.
You'll probably never know, but sounds like you did a 
good job with the resus!
 
Brenda M

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Melissa Singer 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:04 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. 
  Lemay
  
  Last week I attended a birth with mentum anterior 
  (diagnosed on view).  Head was born then 3 minutes later the rest of the 
  baby.  Apgars 3, 5, 7, 7.  Wt 4.7kgs, peri intact.  Why were 
  the apgars at birth so low (no heart rate at all when born) and the fetal 
  heart rate had been fine during her rapid labour and second sage and some 
  baby's sit there for seven minutes without a problem?
   
  Melissa
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Tania 
Smallwood 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:53 
AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. 
Lemay


Well it must have 
been the moon then…last Friday my colleague and I went to see a woman for an 
antenatal appt, all well at 39 weeks, and then 30 minutes later SROM while 
we were on our way to the next appt, 40 minutes of labour, hubby rushing 
through the door, no equipment, kids scissors boiling in a pot on the stove, 
cord ties thrown together with embroidery thread, baby born in the 
spa!  Lovely, but what a rush for all!
 
Tania
x
 




From: 
owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] 
On Behalf Of Gloria 
LemaySent: Tuesday, 19 
July 2005 3:25 AMTo: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. 
Lemay
 

Congratulations, Mary!  
Last Thurs night I attended a face presentation where the little mentum 
anterior face/head just sat there turning purple for way longer than I 
needed.  Same thing, tincture of time and it rotated and squooshed into 
Dad's hands with only 1/2 inch tear.  That must have been some crazy 
midwife moon!  Gloria

  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: Mary 
  Murphy 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, July 18, 2005 5:24 AM
  
  Subject: 
  [ozmidwifery] Things/g. Lemay
  
   
  

  Hi Gloria, 
  remember I said I would ask the mother about posting her C/S Lotus 
  Placenta on Midwifery Today?  She said it is fine with her.// Re 
  the delay with the head before birth of the body?   Lieve 
  said it might be the moon?   A week ago I was 2nd 
  midwife at a lovely home waterbirth and guess what?  Baby’s head 
  was born and 7 minutes later the body was born with the next available 
  contraction.  It did seem like a long time and the primary 
  midwife and I had to hold our mouths shut so we wouldn’t do the “just 
  give a little push” instruction. All well. No  need to do 
  anything except talk to the baby. Cheers, 
  MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. Lemay

[Melissa Singer]

Last week I attended a birth with mentum anterior 
(diagnosed on view).  Head was born then 3 minutes later the rest of the 
baby.  Apgars 3, 5, 7, 7.  Wt 4.7kgs, peri intact.  Why were the 
apgars at birth so low (no heart rate at all when born) and the fetal heart rate 
had been fine during her rapid labour and second sage and some baby's sit there 
for seven minutes without a problem?
 
Melissa

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tania Smallwood 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:53 
AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. 
  Lemay
  
  
  Well it must have 
  been the moon then…last Friday my colleague and I went to see a woman for an 
  antenatal appt, all well at 39 weeks, and then 30 minutes later SROM while we 
  were on our way to the next appt, 40 minutes of labour, hubby rushing through 
  the door, no equipment, kids scissors boiling in a pot on the stove, cord ties 
  thrown together with embroidery thread, baby born in the spa!  Lovely, 
  but what a rush for all!
   
  Tania
  x
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] 
  On Behalf Of Gloria 
  LemaySent: Tuesday, 19 July 
  2005 3:25 AMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. 
  Lemay
   
  
  Congratulations, Mary!  Last 
  Thurs night I attended a face presentation where the little mentum anterior 
  face/head just sat there turning purple for way longer than I needed.  
  Same thing, tincture of time and it rotated and squooshed into Dad's hands 
  with only 1/2 inch tear.  That must have been some crazy midwife 
  moon!  Gloria
  

- Original Message - 


From: Mary 
Murphy 

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 


Sent: Monday, 
July 18, 2005 5:24 AM

Subject: 
[ozmidwifery] Things/g. Lemay

 

  
Hi Gloria, 
remember I said I would ask the mother about posting her C/S Lotus 
Placenta on Midwifery Today?  She said it is fine with her.// Re 
the delay with the head before birth of the body?   Lieve said 
it might be the moon?   A week ago I was 2nd 
midwife at a lovely home waterbirth and guess what?  Baby’s head 
was born and 7 minutes later the body was born with the next available 
contraction.  It did seem like a long time and the primary midwife 
and I had to hold our mouths shut so we wouldn’t do the “just give a 
little push” instruction. All well. No  need to do anything except 
talk to the baby. Cheers, 
MM

Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI

[Janet Fraser]

Dear oh dear. And how many of these women actually had undiagnosed  PTSD
caused by birth trauma, I wonder? And how many had births in which no normal
physiological processes occurred to give them the capacity to care for their
newborn?
Sometimes I despair!
J
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[ozmidwifery] article FYI

[leanne wynne]

Postnatal depression 'unpreventable'
In other news, the results of a literature review have cast doubt on the 
value of psychosocial and psychological interventions for the prevention of 
postpartum depression.


In her analysis of 15 trials, involving a total of 7697 women, Cindy-Lee 
Dennis, from the University of Toronto in Canada, found no overall 
statistically significant effect of all the types of interventions studied, 
including psychosocial activities, such as antenatal or postnatal classes, 
and psychological interventions, such as interpersonal psychotherapy, on 
rates of postnatal depression.


Despite this negative result, they did observe a potential reduction in the 
condition in certain groups of patients, including those considered already 
at risk. "The most promising intervention is the provision of intensive, 
professionally based postpartum support," they add.




Leanne Wynne
Midwife in charge of "Women's Business"
Mildura Aboriginal Health Service  Mob 0418 371862


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Re: [ozmidwifery] just a thought

[Alesa Koziol]

And letting go is so vital when we face these slightly unusual situations
frequently. Last evening a woman really had no contractions to speak of at
all throughout her whole second stage of labour, she didn't even really have
any urges to push, but did so on the behest of her accoucheur. Eventually  a
very big crown emerges, next contraction (push) a face and then everything
stops yet again. I. am looking at the clock as this babe is making breathing
actions and five minutes have passed. No contractions, no colour change but
I am starting to think that maybe this baby- making internal manouvres and
attempting to breathe is trying to tell us something. The accoucheur must
have been thinking the same and encouraged some active pushing. Baby was
born 6 minutes after head emerged with tight cord wrapped around its body,
true knot  and lots of fresh mec following the body. Flaccid, initial apgar
6. Responded OK with a tactile stimulation of drying and a bit of free flow
O2 and within 10 mins was cooing at mum. Weighed in at 4490. Thought this
case was interesting in light of this thread
Cheers
Alesa


> Exactly Gloria, that was my point, the ageing effect it has on
> midwives.  Sometimes after these incidents when you cant sleep I find
> talking about it to listeners out there helps. Not that you really want
> an answer it just gets it off my ample chest and then I can let it go.
> Andrea
>

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Things/g. Lemay

[Tania Smallwood]

Well it must have been the moon then…last
Friday my colleague and I went to see a woman for an antenatal appt, all well
at 39 weeks, and then 30 minutes later SROM while we were on our way to the
next appt, 40 minutes of labour, hubby rushing through the door, no equipment,
kids scissors boiling in a pot on the stove, cord ties thrown together with
embroidery thread, baby born in the spa!  Lovely, but what a rush for all!

 

Tania

x

 









From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Gloria Lemay
Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2005 3:25
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
Things/g. Lemay



 



Congratulations, Mary!  Last Thurs night I attended a
face presentation where the little mentum anterior face/head just sat there
turning purple for way longer than I needed.  Same thing, tincture of time
and it rotated and squooshed into Dad's hands with only 1/2 inch tear. 
That must have been some crazy midwife moon!  Gloria







- Original Message - 





From: Mary Murphy






To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Monday, July 18,
2005 5:24 AM





Subject: [ozmidwifery]
Things/g. Lemay





 







Hi Gloria, remember I said I would ask the
mother about posting her C/S Lotus Placenta on Midwifery Today?  She said
it is fine with her.// Re the delay with the head before birth of the
body?   Lieve said it might be the moon?   A week ago I was
2nd midwife at a lovely home waterbirth and guess what? 
Baby’s head was born and 7 minutes later the body was born with the next
available contraction.  It did seem like a long time and the primary
midwife and I had to hold our mouths shut so we wouldn’t do the
“just give a little push” instruction. All well. No  need to
do anything except talk to the baby. Cheers, MM

[ozmidwifery] Things/g. Lemay

[Mary Murphy]

Hi Gloria, remember I said I would ask the
mother about posting her C/S Lotus Placenta on Midwifery Today?  She said it is
fine with her.// Re the delay with the head before birth of the body?   Lieve
said it might be the moon?   A week ago I was 2nd midwife at a
lovely home waterbirth and guess what?  Baby’s head was born and 7
minutes later the body was born with the next available contraction.  It did
seem like a long time and the primary midwife and I had to hold our mouths shut
so we wouldn’t do the “just give a little push” instruction. All
well. No  need to do anything except talk to the baby. Cheers, MM

RE: [ozmidwifery] doula in the Hawkesbury?

[jo]

I didn’t realise Bonny was in the
Hawkesbury area Abby. I‘ve been marking her doula assignments for Birth
Central – 6 degrees of separation!

 

Jo

 









From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Abby and Toby
Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2005 9:22 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula
in the Hawkesbury?



 



Subject:
[ozmidwifery] doula in the Hawkesbury?





Hi all,Does
anyone know of a doula in this area?





 





Here is Bonny's details Janet. They are
posted on a public site so I am sure she wouldn't mind me posting them here.





 





Bonny
Davies (Maternity and Birth Support)
north-west sydney
region: Hawkesbury Region (Windsor)  ph: (02) 0414 457 293





 





Love Abby

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Postnatal Distress Handout

[Dean & Jo]

Ursula, 

I have contacted Women’s Health Statewide
and they are looking through their resources. 
You can go to their web site to see their publications to see if they
have it there…you would think a 12 year old document would have been up dated
by now though!  www.whs.sa.gov.au

Let you know tomorrow.

Cheers Jo

 

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ursula and Henk
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:27
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re:
Postnatal Distress Handout

 



HI Jo





Thank you for your help.  I
hope someone remembers them.  It was a great handout and the only copy i
had is gone. 





Ursula







From: Dean
& Jo 





Sent: Thursday,
July 14, 2005 10:53 AM





I will ring Women’s
Health Statewide and ask if they have details. 
The people listed on the back are no known to me currently but I have
only been in Adealide since 1998 so one of the ‘locals’ might know them.  I will hunt around!



Cheers

Jo Bainbridge CD

CARES SA
Maternity Coalition

Bloomin Good Birth

 










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