Re: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy
Thanks Luci, This is very interesting. Päivi - Original Message - From: Luci Bubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy Yes Debbie, you are correct in stating that belly dancing was (and still is!!) used as a skill for women to assist them in labour not just for men's pleasure in Egyptian pubs. It is believed that women would come together in a circle, arms all interlocked and encourage the labouring woman in her active birth through belly dancing - what a glorious picture of supporting one another through birth. I recently supported a dance teacher in labour, as her doula and in our post natal conversations I asked her about what she thought of whether dancing made a difference to her experience of birth. She said she had met with some of her dance friends who have had babies and all their labours were quick. She attributes this to the fact that dancers are more comfortable with their bodies and probably spend more time on the floor than non-dancers. Her midwife also suggested that dancers are probably more used to pushing their bodies to the limit (perhaps more used to muscle pain) and not so afraid of the pain that childbirth can bring. From spending time on the floor, the hips are more open and flexible as well as the back muscles are much stronger, these are both reasons why labour can be shorter for dancers. All the dancers (5 including my client) are contemporary dancers and contemporary dance does tend to have a bit of floor work in it. Also 3 of the women have been doing yoga for the last 10 years and did prenatal yoga throughout their pregnancies, which is very good preparation for birth, both in relaxing and strengthening the body. Hope this information is of help and interest to you Paivi. Blessings, Luci Doula, Adelaide, South Australia www.doulaluci.blogspot.com From: Debbie Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:11:36 +0800 Paivi My understanding is (and I may well be wrong, so please anyone tell me if I am), that belly dancing was originally devised as a skill shown by women to women to assist them in labour - a sort of pelvic rocking to movement. Slow belly dancing movements are a good skill for an active labour. As someone who did ballet 'til her mid-20's, I found that I had quite strong pelvic floor muscles, and found it quite difficult to let go of my pelvic floor muscles during second stage. Ballet dancing does give you a good awareness of your pelvic floor - the instructions of the ballet teacher to pull in and up is all about the pelvic floor and core muscles. Debbie Slater Perth, WA _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Päivi Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2006 5:26 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Dancing in labour and pregnancy Hi all, After being to the Midwifery conference in Germany last week and attending a great latin american dance show last night I am inspired to write an article about dancing and birth. I have a long history in dancing and had easy births myself. I have talked to quite a few dancing friends lately and all had natural labors and felt empowered by it. So if you have great stories of women dancing trough labor or how dancing during pregnancy can help, please share. Do you think, that dancing makes pelvic floor muscles stronger, and that is what helps, or what other advantages can we find in dancing? How have you seen women use rythm and movements? Does anyone know if there is difference weather you dance ballet, ballroom, salsa or belly dance... (prenatally, that is) Päivi _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Nov06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] doula
Question for you as a doula do you get paid for your services or is a gratis/honorarium. I think that she would ask these questions From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Honey Acharya Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 3:03 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula There are a number of different courses to choose from. All have fees for the training but they vary in what is covered and what is charged so it is worth checking them out and finding which one suits her best. Some of it will also depend where she lives as some require you to attend whereas others are online or via correspondence. The ones I know of are Childbirth International (Distance learning option) Rhea Dhempsey ??(Melbourne) Birthing Rites (Sydney) Birth Central Optimum Birth (Distance learning option) Capers Bookstore also host DONA trainingI believe ?? check out http://www.childbirthinternational.com/BecomeDoula/Compare/compareaus.htm it has a comparison of three of them I'm sure others will also respond with other options. Regards Honey Acharya Student Midwife BMid UniSA Certified Doula - Childbirth International - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] doula Could anyone enlighten me is there a course for doulas in Australia. Iam a midwife and I have a friend who has had 2 years of mid training but due to circumstances was unable to finish her training. She would like to continue working as a support person with pregnant and labouring women. Also is there a fee involved for the service provided. Thankyou in advance
[ozmidwifery] Bubhub and Dr Brown's bottle promotions
They could at least abide by the WHO Code. It's not much to ask that sites where women seek support and advice will not offer ads for artificial milk with it's track record of harming babies. Bubhub also has forums devoted to CC and CIO, formula feeding and caesareans. It is also endorsed by Maternity Coalition and ACMI. Strange messages to be sending, hey? J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] doula
That is a personal choice that each Doula must make. Some do it for free or free for certain demographics. Most of us though do charge as the time commitment is huge and what we do is very valuable. What we charge would also be a personal choice that takes into account local circumstances, target markets and experience in being a doula. I hope that helps. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of sharon Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 7:17 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] doula Question for you as a doula do you get paid for your services or is a gratis/honorarium. I think that she would ask these questions From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Honey Acharya Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 3:03 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] doula There are a number of different courses to choose from. All have fees for the training but they vary in what is covered and what is charged so it is worth checking them out and finding which one suits her best. Some of it will also depend where she lives as some require you to attend whereas others are online or via correspondence. The ones I know of are Childbirth International (Distance learning option) Rhea Dhempsey ??(Melbourne) Birthing Rites (Sydney) Birth Central Optimum Birth (Distance learning option) Capers Bookstore also host DONA trainingI believe ?? check out http://www.childbirthinternational.com/BecomeDoula/Compare/compareaus.htm it has a comparison of three of them I'm sure others will also respond with other options. Regards Honey Acharya Student Midwife BMid UniSA Certified Doula - Childbirth International - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] doula Could anyone enlighten me is there a course for doulas in Australia. Iam a midwife and I have a friend who has had 2 years of mid training but due to circumstances was unable to finish her training. She would like to continue working as a support person with pregnant and labouring women. Also is there a fee involved for the service provided. Thankyou in advance
[ozmidwifery] Fw: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site Feedback
This is the reply I got after sending a letter of complaint to BubHub re advertising bottles on their website. I haven't investigated whether bottle advertising per se is against the WHO Code but I think they are splitting hairs on this and if they are truly pro breastfeeding as recommended by WHO they wouldn't be advertising them anyway! Helen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Helen Cahill @ Bub Hub Community Forums Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site Feedback Hi Helen As you are probably aware, our site is endorsed by the ACMI and the breastfeeding pages are endorsed by ALCA. We have an agreement with both of those organisations that we will voluntarily abide by the WHO code. We have also agreed with both of those organisations that we will have NO advertising for formula (including toddler follow-on formula) on the site, or ads for pacifiers. However, it has been agreed that we may include ads for bottles on the site. These discussion have also been continued with the Maternity Coalition who have agreed with this approach. We will not include ads for any organisation that breaches the WHO code, however, as far as we are aware, Dr Browns do not breach the WHO code. If they do, we will be more than happy to remove any future advertising by this organisation from our site. Please note that the Dr Browns ad was due to run for one week only and this is now over. The offending ad has been removed from our site already. with kind regards Hilary Hilary LauderWebsite Managerph: 07 3862 4491Mob: 0404 898 832Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: www.bubhub.com.auThis email and any accompanying attachments is intended for the use of the named individual or entity and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination, distribution or copying by anyone other than the intended recipient of this email is strictly prohibited. If this email is received in error, please destroy it immediately. - Original Message - From: Helen Cahill @ Bub Hub Community Forums To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site Feedback The following message was sent to you via the Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us form by Helen Cahill.Very disappointing to see you advertising a type of bottle teat right next to your section advertising Pinky's breastfeeding forum. It is well known that breast is best so advertising bottle feeding parafenalia goes against the principles of encouraging breastfeeding.Referring Page: http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=41867IP Address: 121.44.207.189User Name: UnregisteredUser ID: 0__ NOD32 1.1859 (20061108) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com
[ozmidwifery] Dr Browns
I recieved this from the bubhub website manager Begin forwarded message: x-tad-smallerHi Katrina/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerThank you for your kind words about the site - much appreciated!/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerAs you are probably aware, our site is endorsed by the ACMI and the breastfeeding pages are endorsed by ALCA. We have an agreement with both of those organisations that we will voluntarily abide by the WHO code. We have also agreed with both of those organisations that we will have NO advertising for formula (including toddler follow-on formula) on the site, or ads for pacifiers. However, it has been agreed that we may include ads for bottles on the site./x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerThese discussion have also been continued with the Maternity Coalition who have agreed with this approach./x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerWe will not include ads for any organisation that breaches the WHO code, however, as far as we are aware, Dr Browns do not breach the WHO code. If they do, we will be more than happy to remove any future advertising by this organisation from our site. Please note that the Dr Browns ad was due to run for one week only and this is now over. The offending ad has been removed from our site already./x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerGiven your concerns, we will review our policy regarding bottle advertising again. /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerwith kind regards/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerHilary/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerHilary Lauder/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerWebsite Manager/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerattachment: logo.jpg x-tad-smallerph: 07 3862 4491/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerMob: 0404 898 832/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerEmail: /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerWebsite: /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerwww.bubhub.com.au/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerThis email and any accompanying attachments is intended for the use of the named individual or entity and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination, distribution or copying by anyone other than the intended recipient of this email is strictly prohibited. If this email is received in error, please destroy it immediately./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller
[ozmidwifery] Fw: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site Feedback
pying by anyone other than the intended recipient of this email is strictly prohibited. If this email is received in error, please destroy it immediately. - Original Message - From: Helen Cahill @ Bub Hub Community Forums To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site Feedback The following message was sent to you via the Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us form by Helen Cahill.Very disappointing to see you advertising a type of bottle teat right next to your section advertising Pinky's breastfeeding forum. It is well known that breast is best so advertising bottle feeding parafenalia goes against the principles of encouraging breastfeeding.Referring Page: http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=41867IP Address: 121.44.207.189User Name: UnregisteredUser ID: 0__ NOD32 1.1859 (20061108) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com__ NOD32 1860 (20061109) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com
[ozmidwifery] Fw: Bub Hub Advertising
Well at least they dealt with the issue swiftly when brought to their notice. Helen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:06 PM Subject: Bub Hub Advertising Hi Helen We've had discussions this morning with both ALCA and the ACMI - we understand, belatedly, that Dr Brown's are in breach of the WHO Code because they only market a bottle and don't have a breastpump as part of their marketing range. As a consequence we have removed all advertising from that organisation from our site effectively immediately and will accept no further advertising from them. The only advertising of bottles that we will permit on our site in future is where the bottle is being marketed in conjunction with a breastpump. I hope that clarifies our position. with kind regards Hilary Hilary LauderWebsite Managerph: 07 3862 4491Mob: 0404 898 832Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: www.bubhub.com.auThis email and any accompanying attachments is intended for the use of the named individual or entity and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination, distribution or copying by anyone other than the intended recipient of this email is strictly prohibited. If this email is received in error, please destroy it immediately. __ NOD32 1860 (20061109) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com
[ozmidwifery] Seeking midwife to join us at Belmont Birthing Services
Hello everyone, We are seeking a midwife to join our team at Belmont Birthing Service. We are a stand alone maternity service situated within Belmont Hospital. We are a women centered, relationship based midwifery team iwth a primary health care focus. We are located at Belmont, on the beautiful Lake Macquarie near Newcastle, NSW. Please pass this on to anyone you think may be interested. The ad is in the Thursday SMH and Sat NH this week. (look for HH06/1058) on the intranet it will be on there on Thursday... site is www.hnehealth.nsw.gov.au If you want to join us, you can apply on line or send your applications to the Recruitment unit at Waratah stating the number or emailing it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The advertisement says: HH06/1058 Midwife Permanent Full time Belmont Birthing Services Come and join the dynamic team at the Belmont Birthing Service, part of John Hunter Hospital maternity division. This Birthing Service offers relationship based, one to one midwifery care relevant to women's needs across the continuum of pregnancy, labour, birth and the postnatal period. We are seeking an innovative and motivated full time midwife, who is an independent thinker and expert clinician and able to work effectively with a great team to join our service. The successful applicant will demonstrate a broad range of midwifery skills, knowledge and communication skills in providing evidence based and appropriate women centered midwifery care. We embrace educational opportunities and strive for a high level of professionalism. Closing date: 24th November, 2006 Enquiries: Carolyn Hastie 0428 112786 Midwifery Manager Belmont Birthing Services Belmont Hospital Enhancing lives through positive birth experiences -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
