RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites
Me too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 4:48 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites We are a small rural hospital - approx 130-150 births in the year - and over the last 8 yrs of very part-time work (between having 3 children) we have had siblings, toddlers, parents, friends, in-laws, neighbours and although most women have 1-2 people by choice, I have seen 4+ wandering in and out of the room. If it's an em LUSCS generally the hubby comes into the OT (his choice) but I have had a few times where when I asked very nicely that the dr's where happy for 2 support people (generally mum and hubby) sit up the head of the bed with the woman. This is at 3am in the morning! I don't do days... I have absolutely no idea if we have a policy, I work on the thinking if the woman is happy, then I'm happy. Have had very few incidences of where the support person wasn't that supportive and busy bullying me and the woman, I showed them where the coffee machine was and put the lady in the shower. Cheryl From: Lisa Gierke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:14:53 +1000 What are peoples thoughts on limiting or not limiting the number of support people who come into be with a woman in labor in hospital? What is your hospital policy about thisare children welcome? Am interested in what others experiences and policies are. Lisa _ Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=clickclientID=740referr al=millionURL=http://live.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] courses WA
Maybe a direct entry program at Curtin Uni in Perth next Year. And most hospitals in Perth run their own classes. Sue - Original Message - From: James Fairbairn To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] courses WA Hi everyone, I am a childbirth educator recently moved to WA and would like to know firstly if most of the childbirth classes here are done in hospital by midwives or are there other formats. Also, is there a direct entry system into a midwifery course in WA without nursing first. Would appreciate any info, Stephanie Perth WA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 11/01/2007
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites
Dear Lisa, Our policy used to be 1 support at a time, and I did use this once to remove a sister that the couple did not wish to be there , but could not tell her themselves for fear of offence. Now I think it may have been changed or at least we ignore it ( it may be 2 now). For me, if the people are working for and with the woman then short of a cast of thousands I'm happy. But I try to ease out spectators that are there to watch because it would be so cool to see a birth. Also it has to be balanced with the others using the unit as only the birthing room has its own facilities and the 2 others share the bathroom across the corridor. This obviously means that one women's supports wandering up and down the corridor can be very uncomfortable of the other women. A policy can not really cover all women's needs, but we have one non the less. Katy - Original Message - From: Lisa Gierke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites What are peoples thoughts on limiting or not limiting the number of support people who come into be with a woman in labor in hospital? What is your hospital policy about thisare children welcome? Am interested in what others experiences and policies are. Lisa __ NOD32 1972 (20070111) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites
The hospital where I work there is a limit of 3 people but saying this we don’t really mind if we have more I have been in rooms where there have been 8 people or more as long as they are not impeding the work of the midwife its ok. So in all however many you feel the woman wants in the room. Sharon _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Gierke Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 2:45 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites What are peoples thoughts on limiting or not limiting the number of support people who come into be with a woman in labor in hospital? What is your hospital policy about thisare children welcome? Am interested in what others experiences and policies are. Lisa -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/624 - Release Date: 12/01/2007 2:04 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/624 - Release Date: 12/01/2007 2:04 PM
RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Me too please thankyou sharon _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Staff Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 7:16 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Good Morning all To all those Ozmidders who requested a copy of the Warm Water Immersion workbook, pleasewatch this space. It is copyrighted by Ramsay Healthcare (Selangor's owners). I put your requests to the DOH and she is conferring with RHC re this. Watch this space! And thank youall for your interest. If anyone is interested, I can forward the reference list though. Regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Lynne Staff To: HYPERLINK mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi Helen When I get to work tomorrow, I will send you the reference list from my recently updated (Oct 2006) warm water immersion in labour and birth learning package for midwives. This may be helpful - re publishing our figures - this is a goal for 2007! Warm regards, and a happy and fruitful 2007! - Original Message - From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Helen and Graham To: HYPERLINK mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi Lynne Can you point me to some research that I can use to support the safety of waterbirth. I have just read the following reference in the SA Women's and Children's Waterbirth Policy as sent in by Fiona to Ozmid as follows: There is no evidence that perinatal mortality and morbidity, including admissions to special care nurseries for babies born into a warm water environment, is significantly different to babies born out of water (Geissbuehler et al 2004; Gilbert Tookey 1999). but wondered whether you had any other references to call on. Also wondering if you had thought about publishing Selangor's own findings? It would be a great contribution to hospitals trying to weigh up the risk benefits of waterbirth. There still seems to be such fear surrounding the whole issue in the majority of the hospital system that it would be great to have some positive local experiences/research to quote. Thanks in advance. Helen - Original Message - From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Lynne Staff To: HYPERLINK mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi Mary At Selangor we - midwives, obstetricians and paediatricians - have 'officially' supported women for waterbirth since Feb 1998. Our rate is 35% of vaginal births and over 1600 babies have been waterborn since we opened. We will continue to do so as it has benefits for women, their babies and is safe. Regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Mary Murphy To: HYPERLINK mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I can’t remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM __ NOD32 1933 (20061221) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. HYPERLINK http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/624 - Release Date: 12/01/2007 2:04 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/624 - Release Date: 12/01/2007 2:04 PM
Re: [ozmidwifery] How do you deal with your fustrations - courses?
Hello Rachael, As the provider of the Graduate Diploma in Childbirth Education I can confirm that it is no longer being offered. However, all is not lost! Birth International is the only Registered Training Organisation (an Australian Government Accredited training provider) in this field, and we are acutely aware that there needs to be a course that will provide educators, both those already working in this area and those wanting to set up programs, with a recognised qualification. At present we are working on a Certificate IV in Childbirth Education, which we expect to launch around mid year. This will be a program of around 350 hours of study, with attendance at a 4 day workshop and an exam. For those with midwifery qualifications, there will be a number of exemptions that will enable the Course to be completed in a few months rather than the nominal year it will take those starting from scratch with no other health related qualifications. It will take less time and cost less money than the Grad Dip, yet incorporate all of the basic skills that the longer course has offered. As soon as we have the details finalised, and the proposed course registered with VETAB, we will be able to begin taking students. I would anticipate the first workshop to be scheduled for around August, 2007. I will make an announcement on this list when the details are on the website and registrations are open. I hope that you do decide to follow your plan to become involved in prenatal education. I am convinced that with better skills and background knowledge parents will be better able to make those important decisions that will determine the outcome of their birth. I am also convinced that educators need training to be able to assist parents develop those skills, and offering a series of lectures (in the style of most classes) is neither appropriate educational practise or effective in terms of achieving its goals. Quality training is the answer, plus plenty of practise, and we hope to be playing a role in both. Good luck with your future plans, Andrea At 03:33 PM 11/01/2007, you wrote: I'm emailing again because I don't think the email I wrote yesterday went through? At least I didn't get it on my computer. To help me deal with my frustrations, so to speak, I am contemplating doing some more study so that I can do some independent antenatal education. I would love some advice and guidance from the wise ladies/men on this list please. A bit of history about me. I live rurally and have a 6 week oldbaby and a 3y.o, and I am tandem breastfeeding them. I would prefer something that I could study from home, but am prepared to travel if necessary. I have found these courses, but would like to know what else is available, so that I can enrol in the best or most suitable course for me at this stage in my life. As far as I'm aware there is no one who does independent childbirth education in any form in this district or surrounding districts, so I'd have potential to start a business, at least one that is child friendly and I can pick and choose my own hours..oh and no one staff politics!. Like many of you have said working in a hospital setting no longer appeals to me whatsoever. I'd love to work with a MIPP to gain experience as I've only not long graduated my GD of midwifery, but there is no one around this area as I said before., so to make the most of my suitation i think this is a good idea...So tell me what courses are there avaibable, what courses/studies have you done? These are the ones I've looked into. Graduate Diploma in Childbirth Education (not available as far as I'm aware) Master of Midwifery. Hypnobirthing Practitioner training Calmbirthing practitioner training ICEA: CBE course Bradely Method ABA community educator course IBLCE lactaion course Natural Birth Education Research Center: G.D (or G.C) of natural birth Infant Massage Instructor training Over time I would love to do a number of these to cater to the wide and varying needs of childbearing women and their families. But for now, I'd love to hear some advice and recommendations from you! PLEASE!! TIA, Rachael -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
